Thank you, Elizabeth, for letting us know that this famous book is online. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth V Cardinal [mailto:evc1369@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:59 AM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY-L] How the other half lives http://www.cis.yale.edu/amstud/inforev/riis/title.html A fellow lister sent me this study and I think you will find it as interesting as I did. It is too good not to share. Don't forget to click on appendix.....lots of information there as well. Enjoy Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

http://www.cis.yale.edu/amstud/inforev/riis/title.html A fellow lister sent me this study and I think you will find it as interesting as I did. It is too good not to share. Don't forget to click on appendix.....lots of information there as well. Enjoy Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

The Fort Wayne News Feb. 6, 1897 All About Women Apropos of matters royal, I happened the other day upon a quaint little bit of information which was news to me, says an English writer, and will, I doubt not, be news many of my readers. Louis, King of Hungary, in the fifteenths century, died and left two daughters, of whom the elder, Mary, succeeded to the throne. But the people were of so warlike a disposition that,although they permitted a woman to occupy the throne, they refused to be governed by a feminine word. So the daughter of Louis was duly declared to be King Mary, and as King Mary she reigned until she was dethroned by Charles DURAZZO, who had previously dethroned and murdered Joan of Naples. Author unknown

Carol asks: Where is Bukk Zsercz located in Hungary. Years ago my mother said that her mother-in-law Rebecca KIRALY told her they were from a small village outside Budapest, Hungary. The small village, today spelled Bukkzserc, is in the Megye (Megye in English is county) called Borsod-Abauj-Zemplen. It is small village in the foothills of the Bukk National Park, about a two and a half hours drive east of Budapest, close to the city Eger. The area is full of vineyards, health spas and quite a tourist destination. Current road map showing Bukkzserc can be found on the following site: Click on the letter "B", then scroll down to Bukkzserc. http://lazarus.elte.hu/moterkep/mb.htm For almost everything you want to know about Hungary, see the following http://www.rootsweb.com/~wghungar/index.html Mary Nagy

Ellis Island has a record for surname spelled KIROLY Rebecca, 25, and son Sandor, age 3, arriving Oct. 14, 1907. They came from Bukk Zsercz, Borsod Megye, and went to husband and father KIROLY Sandor in Roderfield, W Va. With them was POCZIK Karoly, age 16, going to his brother Lajos Poczik, same place. They were born in Zsercz (called Bukkzserc today). Mary Nagy :-))

The Columbus (Ohio) Metropolitan Library has copies of obituaries published in the Columbus Dispatch. A search on the name KIRALY shows the following obituaries: Rebecca Kiraly published April 2, 1940 Alex published Aug. 13, 1963 Helen Louise published Nov. 30, 1965 Joseph published Feb. 8, 1985 William published Aug.7, 1987 Go to the follwing site. You can do a search and it tells how to order copies. Perhaps information on Karl/Carl KIRALY is in one of the obituaries. http://www.columbuslibrary.org/cmlcnix/searchobitform.cfm Good luck! :-)) Mary Nagy ----- Original Message ----- From: <cegphx@cox.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:54 AM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Alex KIRALY I'm looking for information regarding my grandparents, Alex KIRALY and wife Rebecca ///. At one point while still living my mother Lucile KIRALY she thought Grandma Kiraly's maiden name was, TOTH. However, up to this point in time I don't think this is correct. Their names are on the Wall of Honor at Ellis Island. Alex and Rebecca had three sons, I believe... William, Karl (Carl) and Steve. My grandparents lived on Market Street in Columbus, Ohio. I lived with them when I was a baby. My parents, Lucile Kershner and Karl/Carl KIRALY were divorced. I've lost track of my KIRALY family. My parents are both deceased and I'm trying to find my paternal lineage for the sake of my own children and grandchildren Respectfully, Carol in Phoenix

Does anyone on the list have any Hungarian relatives with the last name Toman or Tomas that lived in Ohio? I'm looking for this surname in the 1910 time frame. Could be Dayton, Cleveland, or any highly populated Hungarian community in Ohio. If so, please email me at asprentz@bex.net Do you know who killed my father? John B. SPRENTZ murdered 17 May 1983, ECORSE MI See my website for further details. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2651/Unsolvedmurder.html If you are a homicide victim survivor, please visit my message board for support. http://support4victims.proboards30.com/

Carol, Your first message asked help about your father if I remember right. You mentioned he died in the 1980"s in California because that is what your mom told you. I would like you to give these possibilities some thought, perhaps he changed his name to King, that is what Kiraly translates to. Also, he might have had another family somewhere, and not necessarily in California. Don't give up and don't take everything you have been told as gospel. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "marys1015" <marys1015@sbcglobal.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:22 AM Subject: [HUNGARY-l] Alex KIRALY > KIROLY Sandor (Alexander), 26, male, married, Magyar, arrived Ellis > Island May 21, 1906 from Zsercs. He went to his sponsor, brother in law, > ???? Gabor, Columbus, Ohio. > On the line above KIROLY Sandor on the manifest is PAPP Andras, who was > going to the same sponsor, his cousin ???? Gabor. > > Sponsor could be KALO Gabor, 1924 Wagner St., Columbus, Ohio. I've seen > this name as a sponsor for others from the Bukkzserc area. The surname > KALO shows up in the census in Columbus, Ohio. > > KIRALY Istvan, arrived Ellis Island, Jan. 2, 1910 from Bukkzserc. > According to the manifest Istvan (Stephen) had been in Columbus 1906-08. > His sponsor this time was his cousin BOLDISZAR Sandor at 2014 Parson > Avenue, Columbus, Ohio. > > BOLDISZAR Sandor arrived Ellis Island, April 24, 1906 from village named > Zserecz (as typed at Ellis Island). He went to his sponsor - friend - MAKO > Joseph at 1991 Parson Avenue, Cloumbus, Ohio. > > Four months later, MAKO Jossef, arrived Ellis Island Aug. 21, 1906 from > Zsercs. The original manifest of the ship is not available, so I don't > know his sponsor. His daughter told me his sponsor was Mr. Papp. > > MAKO Joseph and his wife Mary, in Columbus, Ohio were from Bukkzserc and > related to my father, NAGY Jozsef. > > Bukkzserc, called Zsercz in old records, is next to my father's village of > Bogacs, in Borsod Megye. > > They made many trips back and forth. Some stayed in the US and some > returned to the old country to live out their life. I'm not familiar with > your surname KIRALY in my NAGY Joseph family, but have some records in my > file that may help you. > > Mary Nagy > > > > > > >

1920 Census Toledo Ohio Lucas County District 164 JAKAB FAMILY 406 Parna? Avenue Toledo, Ohio JAKAB, Julius Head age 25 Born: Hungary Both parents: same Imm: 1911 Occ: Drop Forger? Auto factory JAKAB, Elizabeth Wife age 23 Born: Hungary both parents: same Imm: 1912 JAKAB, Ethel Daughter age 3 Born: Ohio JAKAB, Julius Son age 2 Born: Ohio JAKCSI, Steve Brother-in-law age 26 Born: Hungary Imm: 1912 Moulder Foundry cheryl BALOG wenberg

Gordon, what is that and what does it mean? From: HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com > Date: 2005/07/26 Tue PM 02:00:07 EST > To: HUNGARY-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: HUNGARY-D Digest V05 #194 > >From: <gordonhillman@sympatico.ca> ------=____1122429717660_i(1.pIy5D5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------"; name="replyAll" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="replyAll" LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQoNCkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogdGV4dC9w bGFpbg0KDQpIVU5HQVJZLUQgRGlnZXN0CQkJCVZvbHVtZSAwNSA6IElzc3VlIDE5NA0KDQpU b2RheSdzIFRvcGljczoNCiAgIzEgQWxleCBLSVJBTFkgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgIFs8Y2VncGh4QGNveC5uZXQ+XQ0KDQpBZG1pbmlzdHJpdmlhOg0KVG8gdW5zdWJzY3Jp YmUgZnJvbSBIVU5HQVJZLUQsIHNlbmQgYSBtZXNzYWdlIHRvIA0KDQogICAgICAgIEhVTkdB UlktRC1yZXF1ZXN0QHJvb3Rzd2ViLmNvbQ0KDQp0aGF0IGNvbnRhaW5zIGluIHRoZSBib2R5 IG9mIHRoZSBtZXNzYWdlIHRoZSBjb21tYW5kDQoNCiAgICAgICAgdW5zdWJzY3JpYmUNCg0K YW5kIG5vIG90aGVyIHRleHQuICBObyBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmUgaXMgbmVjZXNzYXJ5LCBidXQg aWYgeW91ciBzb2Z0d2FyZQ0KcmVxdWlyZXMgb25lLCBqdXN0IHVzZSB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSBp biB0aGUgc3ViamVjdCwgdG9vLg0KDQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18N Ci0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KDQpYLU1lc3NhZ2U6ICMxDQpEYXRl OiBNb24sIDI1IEp1bCAyMDA1IDIyOjU2OjMyIC0wNzAwDQpGcm9tOiA8Y2VncGh4QGNveC5u ZXQ+DQpUbzogSFVOR0FSWS1MQHJvb3Rzd2ViLmNvbQ0KTWVzc2FnZS1JRDogPDAwMDgwMWM1 OTFhNiRjNjYyZjVhMCRjYjRlNjI0NEBwaC5jb3gubmV0Pg0KU3ViamVjdDogQWxleCBLSVJB TFkNCkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogdGV4dC9wbGFpbjsNCgljaGFyc2V0PSJpc28tODg1OS0xIg0K DQpDQlcgc2VudCBtZSB0aGUgZm9sbG93aW5nIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIHJlZ2FyZGluZyBteSBL SVJBTFkgZmFtaWx5IHRoYXQgc2hlIGZvdW5kIGluIHRoZTE5MzAgY2Vuc3VzIGZvciBEaXN0 cmljdCA5IGluIENvbHVtYnVzLCBGcmFua2xpbiBDb3VudHksIE9oaW8uICBUaGV5IHdlcmUg bGl2aW5nIGF0IDM3NiBNYXJraXNvbiBBdmUuOg0KDQoNCktJUkFMWSwgQWxleCAgYWdlIDUw LCBib3JuIGluIEh1bmdhcnksIGJvdGggcGFyZW50cyBzYW1lLCAgaW1taWdyYXRlZCAxOTA2 LCBvY2N1cGF0aW9uOiBtb3VsZGVyLg0KDQpLSVJBTFksICBSZWJlY2NhLCB3aWZlLCBhZ2Ug NDYsIGJvcm4gaW4gSHVuZ2FyeSwgYm90aCBwYXJlbnRzIHNhbWUsIGltbWlncmF0ZWQgMTkw Nywgb2NjdXBhdGlvbjogY29vay4NCg0KS0lSQUxZLCBXaWxsaWFtLCBzb24sIGFnZSAyMSwg Ym9ybjogIE9oaW8sIG9jY3VwYXRpb246IGxhYm9yZXIgaW4gd29vbGVuIG1pbGwuDQoNCktJ UkFMWSwgQ2FybCwgc29uLCBhZ2UgMTcsIGJvcm4gaW4gIE9oaW8sIG9jY3VwYXRpb246IFRh eGkgRHJpdmVyLiAgKFRoaXMgaXMgIG15IGZhdGhlcikNCg0KS0lSQUxZLCBLYXRoZXJpbmUs IGRhdWdodGVyLWluLWxhdywgYWdlIDIwLCBib3JuIGluIE9oaW8sIG9jY3VwYXRpb24gIHRl bGVwaG9uZSBvcGVyYXRvci4NCg0KVGhpcyBpcyBhbGwgdGhlIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIEkgaGF2 ZS4gIElzIGFueW9uZSBjb25uZWN0ZWQgdG8gdGhpcyBsaW5lLCBvciBjYW4gc29tZW9uZSBn aXZlIG1lIGFueSBvdGhlciBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbj8NCg0KUmVzcGVjdGZ1bGx5LA0KQ2Fyb2wg aW4gUGhvZW5peCAgDQoNCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQpFbmQg b2YgSFVOR0FSWS1EIERpZ2VzdCBWMDUgSXNzdWUgIzE5NA0KKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioq KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioNCg== - ------------------------------ ------=____1122429717660_i(1.pIy5D5--

Dear Margaret and Judy; And anyone else I confused with my answer. I was responding to the word "néni" with the pronunciation "nee-an-nee". Not your request for Borisney. I am so sorry. Sincerely, Pat

KIROLY Sandor (Alexander), 26, male, married, Magyar, arrived Ellis Island May 21, 1906 from Zsercs. He went to his sponsor, brother in law, ???? Gabor, Columbus, Ohio. On the line above KIROLY Sandor on the manifest is PAPP Andras, who was going to the same sponsor, his cousin ???? Gabor. Sponsor could be KALO Gabor, 1924 Wagner St., Columbus, Ohio. I've seen this name as a sponsor for others from the Bukkzserc area. The surname KALO shows up in the census in Columbus, Ohio. KIRALY Istvan, arrived Ellis Island, Jan. 2, 1910 from Bukkzserc. According to the manifest Istvan (Stephen) had been in Columbus 1906-08. His sponsor this time was his cousin BOLDISZAR Sandor at 2014 Parson Avenue, Columbus, Ohio. BOLDISZAR Sandor arrived Ellis Island, April 24, 1906 from village named Zserecz (as typed at Ellis Island). He went to his sponsor - friend - MAKO Joseph at 1991 Parson Avenue, Cloumbus, Ohio. Four months later, MAKO Jossef, arrived Ellis Island Aug. 21, 1906 from Zsercs. The original manifest of the ship is not available, so I don't know his sponsor. His daughter told me his sponsor was Mr. Papp. MAKO Joseph and his wife Mary, in Columbus, Ohio were from Bukkzserc and related to my father, NAGY Jozsef. Bukkzserc, called Zsercz in old records, is next to my father's village of Bogacs, in Borsod Megye. They made many trips back and forth. Some stayed in the US and some returned to the old country to live out their life. I'm not familiar with your surname KIRALY in my NAGY Joseph family, but have some records in my file that may help you. Mary Nagy

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=____1122429717660_i(1.pIy5D5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He arrived at Ellis Island on May 21, 1906 and is identified as Sandor KIRALY,from Zerco. He is travelling to Columbus, OH to join his brother-in-law. I believe the town or origin is misinterpreted and may be Zercs. Gordon Hillman, Professional Genealogist > > From: HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com > Date: 2005/07/26 Tue PM 02:00:07 EST > To: HUNGARY-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: HUNGARY-D Digest V05 #194 > > ------=____1122429717660_i(1.pIy5D5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------"; name="replyAll" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="replyAll" LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQoNCkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogdGV4dC9w bGFpbg0KDQpIVU5HQVJZLUQgRGlnZXN0CQkJCVZvbHVtZSAwNSA6IElzc3VlIDE5NA0KDQpU b2RheSdzIFRvcGljczoNCiAgIzEgQWxleCBLSVJBTFkgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgIFs8Y2VncGh4QGNveC5uZXQ+XQ0KDQpBZG1pbmlzdHJpdmlhOg0KVG8gdW5zdWJzY3Jp YmUgZnJvbSBIVU5HQVJZLUQsIHNlbmQgYSBtZXNzYWdlIHRvIA0KDQogICAgICAgIEhVTkdB UlktRC1yZXF1ZXN0QHJvb3Rzd2ViLmNvbQ0KDQp0aGF0IGNvbnRhaW5zIGluIHRoZSBib2R5 IG9mIHRoZSBtZXNzYWdlIHRoZSBjb21tYW5kDQoNCiAgICAgICAgdW5zdWJzY3JpYmUNCg0K YW5kIG5vIG90aGVyIHRleHQuICBObyBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmUgaXMgbmVjZXNzYXJ5LCBidXQg aWYgeW91ciBzb2Z0d2FyZQ0KcmVxdWlyZXMgb25lLCBqdXN0IHVzZSB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSBp biB0aGUgc3ViamVjdCwgdG9vLg0KDQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18N Ci0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KDQpYLU1lc3NhZ2U6ICMxDQpEYXRl OiBNb24sIDI1IEp1bCAyMDA1IDIyOjU2OjMyIC0wNzAwDQpGcm9tOiA8Y2VncGh4QGNveC5u ZXQ+DQpUbzogSFVOR0FSWS1MQHJvb3Rzd2ViLmNvbQ0KTWVzc2FnZS1JRDogPDAwMDgwMWM1 OTFhNiRjNjYyZjVhMCRjYjRlNjI0NEBwaC5jb3gubmV0Pg0KU3ViamVjdDogQWxleCBLSVJB TFkNCkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogdGV4dC9wbGFpbjsNCgljaGFyc2V0PSJpc28tODg1OS0xIg0K DQpDQlcgc2VudCBtZSB0aGUgZm9sbG93aW5nIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIHJlZ2FyZGluZyBteSBL SVJBTFkgZmFtaWx5IHRoYXQgc2hlIGZvdW5kIGluIHRoZTE5MzAgY2Vuc3VzIGZvciBEaXN0 cmljdCA5IGluIENvbHVtYnVzLCBGcmFua2xpbiBDb3VudHksIE9oaW8uICBUaGV5IHdlcmUg bGl2aW5nIGF0IDM3NiBNYXJraXNvbiBBdmUuOg0KDQoNCktJUkFMWSwgQWxleCAgYWdlIDUw LCBib3JuIGluIEh1bmdhcnksIGJvdGggcGFyZW50cyBzYW1lLCAgaW1taWdyYXRlZCAxOTA2 LCBvY2N1cGF0aW9uOiBtb3VsZGVyLg0KDQpLSVJBTFksICBSZWJlY2NhLCB3aWZlLCBhZ2Ug NDYsIGJvcm4gaW4gSHVuZ2FyeSwgYm90aCBwYXJlbnRzIHNhbWUsIGltbWlncmF0ZWQgMTkw Nywgb2NjdXBhdGlvbjogY29vay4NCg0KS0lSQUxZLCBXaWxsaWFtLCBzb24sIGFnZSAyMSwg Ym9ybjogIE9oaW8sIG9jY3VwYXRpb246IGxhYm9yZXIgaW4gd29vbGVuIG1pbGwuDQoNCktJ UkFMWSwgQ2FybCwgc29uLCBhZ2UgMTcsIGJvcm4gaW4gIE9oaW8sIG9jY3VwYXRpb246IFRh eGkgRHJpdmVyLiAgKFRoaXMgaXMgIG15IGZhdGhlcikNCg0KS0lSQUxZLCBLYXRoZXJpbmUs IGRhdWdodGVyLWluLWxhdywgYWdlIDIwLCBib3JuIGluIE9oaW8sIG9jY3VwYXRpb24gIHRl bGVwaG9uZSBvcGVyYXRvci4NCg0KVGhpcyBpcyBhbGwgdGhlIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIEkgaGF2 ZS4gIElzIGFueW9uZSBjb25uZWN0ZWQgdG8gdGhpcyBsaW5lLCBvciBjYW4gc29tZW9uZSBn aXZlIG1lIGFueSBvdGhlciBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbj8NCg0KUmVzcGVjdGZ1bGx5LA0KQ2Fyb2wg aW4gUGhvZW5peCAgDQoNCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQpFbmQg b2YgSFVOR0FSWS1EIERpZ2VzdCBWMDUgSXNzdWUgIzE5NA0KKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioq KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioNCg== -------------------------------- ------=____1122429717660_i(1.pIy5D5--

CBW sent me the following information regarding my KIRALY family that she found in the1930 census for District 9 in Columbus, Franklin County, Ohio. They were living at 376 Markison Ave.: KIRALY, Alex age 50, born in Hungary, both parents same, immigrated 1906, occupation: moulder. KIRALY, Rebecca, wife, age 46, born in Hungary, both parents same, immigrated 1907, occupation: cook. KIRALY, William, son, age 21, born: Ohio, occupation: laborer in woolen mill. KIRALY, Carl, son, age 17, born in Ohio, occupation: Taxi Driver. (This is my father) KIRALY, Katherine, daughter-in-law, age 20, born in Ohio, occupation telephone operator. This is all the information I have. Is anyone connected to this line, or can someone give me any other information? Respectfully, Carol in Phoenix

Hello Listers, I am new to this list and wish to introduce myself...I am Robert P Stutsman My Mother was a Mate...My spouse a Zrinyi...these are the name I am researching...I hope to make contact with anyone who is researching any of the following surnames...My thanks to Sherry Perry...and Julianne Jacob Brazina for their help ... Blessings to all, Robert P Stutsman Hungarian names I am researching: Mate, Kollarcsik, Toth, Szekely,(wife's Line) Zrinyi, Sebo, Balaton secondary names; Kreston, Szurkos, Ersok, Kanya, Markus, Nagy, Ambrus

Application for Marriage License Jan. 24, 1920 SIMKO, Frank Born: Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania Dec. 2, 1896 Present residence: East Chicago, Indiana Occupation: Hair Spinner Fathers name: SIMKO, Joseph Born: Hungary Residence: East Chicago, Indiana Mothers name: SZABO , Bertha Born: Debrod, Hungary Residence: East Chicago, Indiana Marriage to: SEPESY, Ethel Born: Chicago, Illinois March 29, 1899 First marriage: Not first death of first husband 1 and 1/3 years ago. Fathers name: FODOR, Sam Born: Hungary Residence: East Chicago, Indiana Mothers name: JOHNSON, Virginia Born: Hungary Hungarian Reformed Church East Chicago, Indiana PLEASE contact me if related to this family. cheryl BALOG wenberg

I learned to pronounce it as nay.. Borisne = Borisnay Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Bowman" <trishboman@sbinet.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] RE: Amusing story > Could it be that the name is Borisne - wife of Boris? How is the "ne" >> pronounced? >> nee? naa? nii? >> >> Judy > > Dear Judy, > I don't see a reply to your request for pronunciation, so I'll > try to write it the way my mother says it. "nee-an-nee" > Hungarian was her first language and she'll be 93 this Thursday. > Good luck, > Pat > >

http://dict.sztaki.hu Regards Tibor At 15:28 2005.07.22.ö, you wrote: >Someone advised me of a good Hungarian Dictionary and I have lost the note. >I'm sorry to ask again but could I have some advice on the best one to >purchase. Amazon has quite a few and I thought I might remember the >authors but >cannot. I am using LDS word list but I think I need more extensive >dictionary. -=o=- Szentmarjay Tibor - http://tibu.naplopok.hu - mailto:tibor@naplopok.hu ICQ UIN: 9774467 - Tel: (20) 9226659 - Skype:Szentmarjay.Tibor

In the pronunciation of "né" the "n" sounds like the "n" in no and the "é" sounds like the "a" in cake. Joseph M. Nemeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Bowman" <trishboman@sbinet.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:40 AM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] RE: Amusing story > Could it be that the name is Borisne - wife of Boris? How is the "ne" >> pronounced? >> nee? naa? nii? >> >> Judy > > Dear Judy, > I don't see a reply to your request for pronunciation, so I'll > try to write it the way my mother says it. "nee-an-nee" Hungarian was her > first language and she'll be 93 this Thursday. > Good luck, > Pat > >

Could it be that the name is Borisne - wife of Boris? How is the "ne" > pronounced? > nee? naa? nii? > > Judy Dear Judy, I don't see a reply to your request for pronunciation, so I'll try to write it the way my mother says it. "nee-an-nee" Hungarian was her first language and she'll be 93 this Thursday. Good luck, Pat