1930 Census Lake County, Indiana Hammond District 159 Carmelite Orphanage 51 Sheffield Avenue Hammond, Indiana VARGO, Andrew Orphan age 12 Born: Illinois Both parents: Hungary VARGO, Gustave Orphan age 11 Born: Illinois Both parents: Hungary

Wisconsin Rapids Daily Tribune Dec. 13, 1955 MRS. HELEN VARGO, 76, dies; rites Wednesday Friendship- Mrs. VARGO Big Flats, died Sunday at the home of her son Andrew at Wood, Wis, following a heart attack. Services at the St. Joseph's Catholic Church. Buriel in the Niebull Cemetery. Mrs. VARGO was born in Hungary on May 10, 1879, the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Steve FEKETE. She came to the United States in 1900 and married Andrew VARGO in Chicago that same year. He died in 1931. Survivors: Son: John VARGO of Big Flats Son: Thomas VARGO " Son: Andrew VARGO of Wood. Brother: Steffin FEKETE in Hungary Sister: Mrs. Catherine SOMODI in Hungary

Beth, I am sure you realize that you will actually be in Romania when traveling in Transylvania. That said, you may wish to post you query on the Romania Mailing list. Two years ago, I traveled by automobile to Satu Mare (previously Szatmar) from Budapest. Satu Mare is just across the Hungarian border and on the western edge of Transylvania. I found traveling by car through Hungary was really not a problem but believe that I would strongly consider an organized tour if I were to travel extensively through the Transylvania area. My primary reason is my lack of knowledge of the Romanian language. I found that lack of knowing the language was not nearly the problem traveling in Hungary as it was in Romania, especially in the smaller towns and villages. I would have been at a complete loss had I not had a person traveling with me from Hungary that had a fair handle on the Romanian language. Even is Satu Mare, a reasonably large town, very few people understood English. If you do speak Hungarian, this would certainly help as we found some people that could communicate in this language. Hope this helps! Jerry

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The Hammond Times Indiana Dec. 26, 1956 Obits SIKET, Julius, 64 of 3432 Fir Street, East Chicago, passed away on Dec. 25, at his home. Survivors: Sister: Lajosne BALOGH of Europe Cousin: Louis LABAS of Hammond, In. Cousin: Mrs. Louise LABAS of Hammond, In. Cousin: Mrs. Margaret MOLNAR of Hammond. cheryl BALOG wenberg

The Hammond Times Nov. 12, 1937 Indiana FRANK LABAS RITES TO BE TOMORROW Funeral services for Frank LABAS, 71, an East Chicago resident for 20 years who succumbed yesterday morning to a stomach ailment following a short illness, will be conducted in the afternoon. Short rites at the home in 4740 Alexander Avenue will precede services in the Hungarian Reformed Church. Internment will be in the Oak Hill Cemetery. The deceased, who moved from Hammond to the Twin City was affiliated with the Reformed sick benefit societies in and Hammond and East Chicago. He was the father of James LABAS, prominent Hungarian leader. Survivors: Wife: Anna LABAS of East Chicago, In. Son: James LABAS of East Chicago Daughter: Mrs. Andrew KOVACH of Hammond Daughter: Mrs. John PETRI of Hammond Stepson: Steve ZIZDA of East Chicago Stepson: Frank ZIZDA of Los Angeles Step-daughter: Mrs. Mose KOVACZI of Griffith Step-daughter: Mrs. Steve BARDOCZI of East Chicago Step-daughter: Mrs. Anton T. GARDNER of East Chicago Step-daughter: Mrs. Joseph NIEMLEC ? of South Bend, In. cheryl BALOG wenberg

Is there anyone who would like to share their knowledge or experiences in traveling to Transylvania. I don't even a tour company picked or perhaps that isn't even necessary. Can Transylvania be done just as easily on your own and a rented car? Thanks Beth Spacinsky (Fazekas)

Thanks to Joseph Jarfas....he was kind enough to send me this info a while back regarding Hungarians to Chicago. Andras and Pal FUZY were distinguished as the first Hungarian settlers in South Chicago (Andras was there first) and became successful businessmen and church leaders, founders and supporters. He immigrated as a 26 year old in 1887 to Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. In 1888 his wife came with his two year old daughter and three year old son, who later became the first Hungarian Judge in East Chicago, Indiana. Andras then moved to South Chicago in 1889. We don't know where Pal was living at that time, but fact is he emigrated in 1883 - and as such he was the first emigrant from the family (supposedly an engineer per 1900 census). Andras bought a house and opened a "saloon" or pub. A few years later two of their sisters also came and settled, and later numerous other relatives as well. According to the book, others from Goncruszka included Daniel MESZAROS, Daniel KOPCSO, Janos TOTH. Andras moved to East Chicago in 1901 and soon after most of the people of Goncruszka also disappeared from South Chicago. They also endured some calamities : fires, illnesses and deaths; according to the book one family lost six children one after the other and soon after the breadwinner also died. In one of the footnotes he registers the death of Andras and his wife: died in 1936 a few months apart. cheryl BALOG wenberg Please contact me if connected to any of these families.

The Bridgeport Telegram Nov. 16, 1923 Obituaries FRANK KOPCSO In Fairfield, Nov. 14, Frank, son of Frank and Rose KOPCSO. He was age 11. Funeral at the residence of his parents No. 39 Fiske Place and from St. Stephens Church. cheryl BALOG wenberg

The Bridgeport Telegram Connecticut Oct. 27, 1926 Obituaries MARIA MACSI Funeral services will be held this morning for Maria MACSI, fifty of 881 Hancock Avenue, who died at her home on Monday. Services will be held at the home and at St. Stephen's Church. Burial will be at the Mountain Grove Cemetery. Survivors: Husband: Kalman MACSI Son: Joseph TAKACS Daughter: Mrs. Stepehn BALASH Sister: Mrs. Susie KOPCSO. chery BALOG wenberg

Does anyone have this reference book Virginia Geneoliges & Biographis 1500-1900 There is something about Prince Alexander Nostorowitch and his daughter Fannie. Thanks, Pat Welch

I have more info on the children of Prince Alyses Noestorwitsch and Countess Adel Abor: I found a ship arrival: ALESYS NESTOROWITSCH Occupation Tourist Age 43 Sex M Literacy U Arrived 1888-06-19 Origin Russia Port Bremen & Southampton Last Residence U Destination USA Plan Unknown Ship Fulda Passage Unknown Their children were as follows if there is an obit, that would help a lot. Thanks l. Helen Adele Nestrowitsch, b.8 October 1860, Hungary, married l)Edwin R. Hughes, a broker, who died 3 Mar 1888. They had a daughter Lillian born 27 March 1886 New York (according to the census). Helen married 2) Morris Barret(t)10 Mar 1990 Trinity Episcopal Church, Washington, D.C. The Barretts were in Lickinghole, Goochland, Virginia since 1860, and he was a physician. 2. Giselda Lenore, married a Schaffer. 3. Frances Antoinette, b. July 1874, Hungary, married Alexander E. Thurman and they were on the 1900 census of Lickinghole, Goochland, Virginia with a daughter, Adele. 4. Osman Konstantine Nestrowitsch (Nestor). If the "cousins" listed in the census are his father's brother's children--there may be more family in American: 1910 Jersey City, Hudson, N.J. Osman Nestor 33 Ger-Aust Ger Aust Ger-Aust Interior decorator 1890 na Horense 27 NJ-Fr-Belj-Fr Belj 1930 Norfolk, Norfolk, Virginia Osman K. Nestor Austria - Ger - Ger Gladys K 29 wife Va-Va-Va (Huges) Frances, dau 8 Va William K 6 son Va G. Gordon, cousin 30 Va Opal E. cousin 28 NC-NC-Nc Betty Sue cousin 5/12 Va Hortense Buckins 69 mother-in-law French Belgian-Fr-Bel- FrBel

Gerald Kisabeth wrote: > Again I can't thank my readers enough. Joseph Jarfas you are indeed a > great person do do all this translating. God bless you!!! > > Can someone please just tell me if this translation mentions the > origin of the name Vinnai. And the 2nd translation is from my mother's > village of Vencsello. Can someone tell me what this says: > Én Vinnai vagyok, egy István, Budapestrõl. 30 éves, és vagyunk még egy > páran a családban. Régebben egy kanadai Vinnaival e-mailezgettem, de > neki a leánykori neve volt Vinnai, és nem is tud már annyira magyarul. > Ezekszerint mindenhol ott vagyunk :) Szlovákiában van egy várrom, > Vinna nevû település ( Vinné) melett, egyszer majd elmegyek megnézni. > Üdv, István > > 2nd translation: > Szia Niki! Én is Niki vagyok, csak nem Vinnai! Az Anyukám Vinnai és > gyáliak vagyunk. Az õ családjuk Vencsellõrõl költözött erre a vidékre. > Azt nem tudom, hogy köztünk van-e rokoni kapcsolat. > Niki > > Love to all, > Gerald (Dobozy) Kisabeth > Pajer-Takacs-Vinnai Short ones are no problem Gerald, but it takes some time to do something like Patricia wants! :-) I'm a Vinnai too, István, 30 years old, from Budapest, and there are quite a few of us in the family. Exchanged E-mails with a Vinnai in Canada, but her maiden name was Vinnai; does not speak well Hungarian. It looks like we are everywhere. In Slovakia there is a ruin beside a place called Vinna (Vinné) which I would like to visit sometimes. Regards, István 2nd: Hi Niki. I'm Niki myself, but not Vinnai. My mother is Vinnai and we hail from Gyál (original place Alsónémedi, county Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kiskun, district Alsódabas). Her family moved from Vencsellö. Don't know if we are related. Niki Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Again I can't thank my readers enough. Joseph Jarfas you are indeed a great person do do all this translating. God bless you!!! Can someone please just tell me if this translation mentions the origin of the name Vinnai. And the 2nd translation is from my mother's village of Vencsello. Can someone tell me what this says: Én Vinnai vagyok, egy István, Budapestrõl. 30 éves, és vagyunk még egy páran a családban. Régebben egy kanadai Vinnaival e-mailezgettem, de neki a leánykori neve volt Vinnai, és nem is tud már annyira magyarul. Ezekszerint mindenhol ott vagyunk :) Szlovákiában van egy várrom, Vinna nevû település ( Vinné) melett, egyszer majd elmegyek megnézni. Üdv, István 2nd translation: Szia Niki! Én is Niki vagyok, csak nem Vinnai! Az Anyukám Vinnai és gyáliak vagyunk. Az õ családjuk Vencsellõrõl költözött erre a vidékre. Azt nem tudom, hogy köztünk van-e rokoni kapcsolat. Niki Love to all, Gerald (Dobozy) Kisabeth Pajer-Takacs-Vinnai

Sandi, My husband also has Barber and Moffitt in his family. Mary O Moffitt, his grandmother. And James Barber, he was my husbands mothers, Violet, father. Gloria Smith

Earlier this week I posted a message on the HUNGARY-L list. I stated that MAGYAR Family website may be down for a little while because the renewal was due early September and I am out of work. I said soon as I can I will have it up and running. Not even a day after Dan Almashy emailed me to offer to send me some money. Next day both Dan and I logged in the MAGYAR Family website and noticed the yearly renewal fee has been paid. It was paid by somebody named Cherti. Looking at the member list there is only one person by that last name. But it says the last time he logged in was July of 2002. I tried emailing him to say thank you but that email came back to me undeliverable. So I would like to take this time to say thank you to both Bob Cherti and Dan Almashy for their kind offer and help, publicly on this list. Laszlo (Les) Josa

Sandi, I think Erdos Szepes m is now Lesnica in Slovakia. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi Barber" <ebonyeyes_2u@yahoo.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Town in Old Szepes Megye > Good afternoon Listers! > > Has anyone ever run across a town called Erdes or Erdos in what was Szepes > Megye? > > Thanks ya'll! > > Sandi Barber > > > ================================================== > Researching: > Pallai, Palinkas, Gaspar, Rubi, Adam, Vazsily, Kriztian, Firkala, > Plucsinsky, Dzurnak, Kupcik, Hozza, Lauf, Almassy, Marhevka, Potanko and > Dinda in Hungary > > Barber, Cummins, Pierce, Page, Van Alstine, Quackenbush, Stephens, > Hargrave, Moffett, Sorrells, Cuthbertson, Lonon and Wilhoit from sea to > shining sea > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >

I was fortunate to find on Arcanum, our family genealogy and need a translation to appreciate it. It makes me very happy to have it in this language, however. Apor (altorjai), báró. Régi székely-család. Birtokadományokat 1590. márcz. 21. (Kolosmon. conv. LR. 1591:18.), 1639. jun. 21. (Gyfv. LR. XIX/218.) nyert. A családból István 1693. máj. 1. a bárói, majd 1696. febr. 23. a grófi méltóságot nyerte. (LR, erd. I/413.) A grófi ág azonban 1706. benne kihalt. A jelenlegi bárói ágnak megalapítója Péter, aki 1712. jan. 15. részesült a bárói rang adományozásában. (LR. erd. V/498.) 140Nevezett Háromszék fõkirálybirája volt. Az emlitett oklevelek nem tartalmazván czímermegállapitást és csak az õsi czímert erõsitik meg, az használat utján a következõképen állapitható meg: ezüst (vörös) paizsban koronán (hármas zöld halmon) könyöklõ vörös ruhás (pánczélos) kar jobbjában görbe kardot tart; a könyökhajlásban lebegõ arany csillag (egyenlõ száru arany kereszt); sisakdísz: a kar a csillaggal (kereszttel); takarók: vörös-ezüst. – A család a fõrendiháznak örökös jogon tagja. – Leszármazás: I. (Bárói ág) Lázár 1639. 1640. † 1643.; István 1693 báró 1696 gróf † 1706; János † 1676; András 1680 ettõl a nemesi ág; Péter 1712 báró † 1751 1699: gr. Kálnoki Borbála († 1743); László † 1770 1) karat Könczei Anna; 2) dálnoki Székely Julia; Zsuzsa 1716 †I/3 gr. Haller János († 1756); János † 1773 Mihálcz Zsuzsa; Péter * 1700 II/7 † 1822 VII/28 1789 IV/2: kilyéni Székely Anna (1770–1862); Borbála * 1765 X/5 1787 XÍI/13: s. szentiványi Szentiványi József; Pál * 1791 III/26 † 1865 VI/10 1817 V/2: bethleni gr. Bethlen Borbála (1793–1834); József * 1800 † 1868 IV/16 delnei Boros Anna († 1869) Gergely * 1818 VIII/15 † 1849 IV/19 1843 I/6: nagybarcsai Barcsay Klaudina (1818–1883); Borbála * 1845 III/8 1871 XI/28: br. Bolmberg Lajos (* 1838); Róza Jancsó György; Borbála; Ágnes kilyéni Székely Lajos; Miklós †; Zoltán * 1836 X/14 Altorja v. tszéki biró; János * 1839 III/25 Altorja; Béla † 1882; Ilona † Kolumbán Ferencz († 1885); II. (Bárói ág) Lázár * 1784 XII/18 † 1868 I/16 v. b. t. t., 1825. kam. 1814 IX/14: szeleczi Szeleczky Karolina (1792–1856); Károly * 1815 XII/11 † 1885 X/31 1853 kam. az erd. kir. itélõtábla elnöke Dobrai Katalin; György * 1818 I/9 † 1848 XI/3 1842 II/28. gr. Haller Teréz (1823–1887) Sándor * 1820 VII/18 Kolozsvár † 1867 VIII/5 soproni fõtszéki tanácsos 1854 kam. 1850 VI/29 Stresow Sarolta /*1829); Béla * 1826 VI/28 † 1852; Géza * 1833 VII/15 † 1886 XII/1 1857 kam. 1861 XI/17: bethleni gróf Bethlen Gizella (1843–1863); Adél * 1843 X/23 1882 IV/14: Nestorovics Konstantin; István * 1863 VI/5 Wien 1889 ápr. Kolozsvár: D'Aubin Klára; István * 1890 V/31 Kolozsvár; Gábor * 1851 IV/12 Wien államtitkár † 1898 VIII/19 1882 V/6: gr. Pálffy Fidele (* 1863); Irma * 1855 VIII/7 Sopron; Sámnuel * 1856 VIII/27 alezredes szárnysegéd; Margit * 1859 IX/14 Z.-Egerszeg 1881 I/10: Pietzker Ármin; Sarolta * 1864 II/15 Bp. palotahölgy; Sándor * 1883 IX/8 Kõröspatak; Gizella * 1886 X/3 uo.; Gabriella * 1889 XI/6 uo.; Vilmos * 1892 II/29 uo.; Henriette * 1893 III/30.