In a message dated 9/8/05 5:16:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jb3177@yahoo.com writes: > 2. You can install the National Language keyboards, and can switch between > them. I find German and Hungarian particularly useful. The information > is available in the help screens for your version of Windows. > > Thanks so much for the detailed instructions for installing the keyboard. I'll do this for the person who needs it and advise how it worked. I can't do it on mine. I'm working with a four year old plus computer and my "clusters", this may also be known as "sectors", are almost gone. Out of 2 million plus clusters, I only have 3000 unused. I'm told by the "experts" my hard drive is wearing out. I have ample memory left, because I only deal with text. Rue the day this computer goes! Marika

The Bridgeport Post Jan. 15, 1955 OBITS JOHN P. TAKACS Services will take place tomorrow for John P. TAKACS, of 160 Castle Avenue, Fairfield, a retired employee of the LaResista Corset Company, who died Sunday in St. Vincents. Services will be conducted in the John Lesko and Son funeral home and at St. Emery's Church with a requim mass. Burial in St. Michael's cemetery. Survivors: Wife: Mary TAKACS Sons: James, Joseph and Andrew TAKACS Daughter: Mrs. James SOLTESZ Daughter: Mrs. Mary PEREMBA Sister: Mrs. John HOZBAI All of Fairfield

The Bridgeport Post Jan. 25, 1955 OBITS Mrs. Frank SZABO Mrs. Elizabeth SZABO, of 2022 Kings Highway, Fairfield, wife of Frank SZABO and a former employee of the Levine Coat Company 15 years, died yesterday in the St. Vincents Hospital. Services at the John Lesko and Son Funeral Home and the First Hungarian Reformed Church. Burial in the Mountain Grove, Cemetery. Born in Hungary, Mrs. SZABO has been a resident of Fairfield and Bridgeport for 45 years. Survivors: Husband: Frank SZABO Son: Frank J. SZABO Daughter: Mrs. Margaret KARVOVANEC Sister: Mrs. Louis SZABO in Hungary.

If anyone out there is researching the name HEREDOVSZKY from Bridgeport, email me. I have a nice news article from 1956 that I can forward. cheryl BALOG wenberg

Les, Thanks so much for sending the combined lists of diacritical marks for Hungarian accents. I was missing the double slashes. I know a 74 year old Hungarian woman who has translated her English version book into Hungarian. The dear soul typed it on a 1940s typewriter and then went back and put the marks in by pencil. Someone in Hungary edited it using a Hungarian character typewriter. Now, If I can't properly download the Hungarian typewriter to her new computer, at least she can use your list for future minimal typings. Marika

Dear List: Yesterday I found the following paragraph at the site of The Budapest Sun Online of August 30, 2001 at http://www.budapestsun.com/full_story.asp?ArticleID=%7BAA398510C0DD40ACA01F2CB1D3E6428A%7D&From=News. I was not aware that Steve Sisa had died. Does anyone know whether he has and, if so, when? I could not find him in the SS Death Index, and his book, Spirit of Hungary, is still on sale by him online personally.Online address and telephone directories also still list him at the address I have for him. I corresponded with him in the summer of 2001, the first time on July 25, and the second on September 7. I did not receive a reply to my second letter. My husband worked closely with Steve in the 1950s on Free World Review. "The late Stephen Sisa, a Hungarian-American and former editor of the Free World Review (USA), in his book Spirit of Hungary, gives bone-chilling and remarkable details of Suliman the Magnificent’s advance into the south of Hungary." Thanks. Jayne perllan987@aol.com

A much easier way to do this is to use the character map. If you go to start, programs, accessories, system tools, character map. It's much easier than trying to remember which codes to type in. Anne Do you know who killed my father? John B. SPRENTZ murdered 17 May 1983, ECORSE MI See my website for further details. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2651/Unsolvedmurder.html If you are a homicide victim survivor, please visit my message board for support. http://support4victims.proboards30.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Church Records Hi Suzie,Tina and list, I combined the two alpha list and tried to keep simple as possible. ¡ = 173 ¿ = 168 « = 174 » = 175 ß = 225 ã = 0227 â = 131 ä = 132 à = 133 å = 0229 á = 160 Ä = 142 Á= 0193 À= 0192 Ã= 0195 Å = 0197 Â =0194 ç = 135 Ç= 0199 é = 130 ê = 136 ë = 137 è = 138 ê =0234 É = 144 È = 0200 Ë = 0203 Ê = 0202 ï = 139 î = 140 ì = 141 í = 161 ï = 0239 î = 0238 Í = 0205 Ì = 0204 Ï = 0207 Î = 0206 ñ = 164 Ñ = 165 õ = 0245 ô = 147 ö = 148 ò = 149 ó = 162 ø = 0248 Ö = 153 Õ = 0213 Ô = 0212 Ø = 0216 Ò = 0210 Ó = 0211 ü = 129 û = 150 ù = 151 ú = 163 Ü = 154 Ú = 0218 Ù = 0217 Û = 0219 Ü = 0220 ÿ = 0255 Hope this helps, Laszlo Josa -----Original Message----- From: Scott & Tina Southwick [mailto:southwick@voyager.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 9:49 PM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Church Records Hi Suzie, I know it has been a long time since you posted, but just wanted to let you know when you are searching especially any hungarin sites you can use the ALT button (holding down) and numbers and will give you the european accent mark on the letters....here is what I mean: Alt + 160 = á Alt + 161 = í Alt + 162 = ó Alt + 163 = ú Alt + 164 + ñ and so on...the best thing to do is just go into word and try the possibilites and print it out so you have future reference. Hope this helps! Tina (Fuzi) Southwick ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzie521@aol.com To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:48 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Church Records If anyone can give me some direction I will be very much appreciative. I went to LDS library and looked at film and made copies of entries of family surname. I have gone to the Hungarian dictionary site to try and find the translations to the words I am seeing. (I cannot put in the proper markings over letters that are used ie ' and ~ etc.) Does that make a difference? I'm not able to find much clue as to what the records are stating. I cannot read Latin or Hungarian but can recognize Anno Domini 1781. Thank you for any help. Suzie __________________________________________________________ Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com 11:18:59 PM ET - 9/7/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/91 - Release Date: 9/6/2005

Hi Suzie, I know it has been a long time since you posted, but just wanted to let you know when you are searching especially any hungarin sites you can use the ALT button (holding down) and numbers and will give you the european accent mark on the letters....here is what I mean: Alt + 160 = á Alt + 161 = í Alt + 162 = ó Alt + 163 = ú Alt + 164 + ñ and so on...the best thing to do is just go into word and try the possibilites and print it out so you have future reference. Hope this helps! Tina (Fuzi) Southwick ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzie521@aol.com To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:48 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Church Records If anyone can give me some direction I will be very much appreciative. I went to LDS library and looked at film and made copies of entries of family surname. I have gone to the Hungarian dictionary site to try and find the translations to the words I am seeing. (I cannot put in the proper markings over letters that are used ie ' and ~ etc.) Does that make a difference? I'm not able to find much clue as to what the records are stating. I cannot read Latin or Hungarian but can recognize Anno Domini 1781. Thank you for any help. Suzie

Hi Suzie,Tina and list, I combined the two alpha list and tried to keep simple as possible. ¡ = 173 ¿ = 168 « = 174 » = 175 ß = 225 ã = 0227 â = 131 ä = 132 à = 133 å = 0229 á = 160 Ä = 142 Á= 0193 À= 0192 Ã= 0195 Å = 0197 Â =0194 ç = 135 Ç= 0199 é = 130 ê = 136 ë = 137 è = 138 ê =0234 É = 144 È = 0200 Ë = 0203 Ê = 0202 ï = 139 î = 140 ì = 141 í = 161 ï = 0239 î = 0238 Í = 0205 Ì = 0204 Ï = 0207 Î = 0206 ñ = 164 Ñ = 165 õ = 0245 ô = 147 ö = 148 ò = 149 ó = 162 ø = 0248 Ö = 153 Õ = 0213 Ô = 0212 Ø = 0216 Ò = 0210 Ó = 0211 ü = 129 û = 150 ù = 151 ú = 163 Ü = 154 Ú = 0218 Ù = 0217 Û = 0219 Ü = 0220 ÿ = 0255 Hope this helps, Laszlo Josa -----Original Message----- From: Scott & Tina Southwick [mailto:southwick@voyager.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 9:49 PM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Church Records Hi Suzie, I know it has been a long time since you posted, but just wanted to let you know when you are searching especially any hungarin sites you can use the ALT button (holding down) and numbers and will give you the european accent mark on the letters....here is what I mean: Alt + 160 = á Alt + 161 = í Alt + 162 = ó Alt + 163 = ú Alt + 164 + ñ and so on...the best thing to do is just go into word and try the possibilites and print it out so you have future reference. Hope this helps! Tina (Fuzi) Southwick ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzie521@aol.com To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:48 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Church Records If anyone can give me some direction I will be very much appreciative. I went to LDS library and looked at film and made copies of entries of family surname. I have gone to the Hungarian dictionary site to try and find the translations to the words I am seeing. (I cannot put in the proper markings over letters that are used ie ' and ~ etc.) Does that make a difference? I'm not able to find much clue as to what the records are stating. I cannot read Latin or Hungarian but can recognize Anno Domini 1781. Thank you for any help. Suzie

d pfalzer wrote: > Hi there, > > I recently wrote a letter to the Ukrainian Embassy > requesting the birth record of my ggm, Mary Szabo who > was born in Beregszasz on 21.3.1885. She was > Catholic. (This really isn't the information I really > want -- but it seems a place to start.) > > I recently received a response to that letter. It was > not immensely helpful, but they did direct me to the > following website: > > http://www.ukraineinfo.us/consular/documents.html > > which I had not been aware of before. > > My problem now is that they want the required form > filled out in Ukrainian. Can anyone help? > > Thanks, > > Denise Hi Denise, don't know if our group has such an expert, but I forwarded your question to the research group in Hungary. I know there are quite a few of them who know Russian. Will see if any one will volunteer for Ukrainian. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

The Hammond Times Indiana Sept. 10, 1968 OBITS KRUTILLA Mrs. Mary KRUTILLA, age 79, of 2736 New York Avenue, Whiting, Indiana passed away Sept 8 in St. Catherine's Hospital Survivors: Son: Joseph KRUTILLA of Whiting, In. Daughter: Mrs. Mary (Joseph) SZUCS of Chicago Daughter: Mrs. Margaret (Hobert) ACKMAN of Whiting, In. Daughter: Mrs. Vera (Walter) McCLURE of Billett, Illinois Sister: Mrs. Theresa LENGYEL of Whiting, In. Sister: Mrs. Elizabeth KOVACS Hungary Sister: Mrs. Julia SIMA Hungary Brother: Andrew SZABO Hungary Brother: John SZABO Hungary Baran Funeral Home Burial in the St. John Cemetery in Hammond, In. She was a resident of Whiting for the past 45 years. cheryl BALOG wenberg

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Kathy Dobra" <dobra7@cybermick.com> To: "Christine/Jean Sz-J" <cjsbj@adelphia.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Bakesh Mega,Hungary/1883/DOBRA,ARGYELAN Thanks! I did find Szida on Ellis Island web site. The place of residence said Gyula. Gabriel came over before Szida and not through Ellis. I think you can just forward everything to the list, that should work I hope!! Thanks again, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Christine/Jean Sz-J [mailto:cjsbj@adelphia.net] Sent: Tue 9/6/2005 11:38 AM To: Mike and Kathy Dobra Cc: Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Bakesh Mega,Hungary/1883/DOBRA,ARGYELAN Hi..that's a county, which is megye, and the name of the county is Bekes. That is in the southeast part of Hungary and the capitol, Gyula, is near the current Romanian border. Now you need the town. Suggest you try Ellis Island. I don't know how to ans you through Rootsweb. Would you please tell me how? Then I can resend it for all to see. Thanks. cjsbj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Kathy Dobra" <dobra7@cybermick.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:48 AM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Bakesh Mega,Hungary/1883/DOBRA,ARGYELAN > I'm researching my husbands family. His grandfather was Gabriel DOBRA b.1883 in Bakesh Mega, Hungary d.1967 in Cleveland OH. Gabriel's parents were Mathew DOBRA and Julia ? b. Hungary. He married Szida ARGYELAN 1910 in Portland OR. They had 10 children. > I'd like to find out more about Gabriel's and Szida's parents and the village of Bakesh Mega. If anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it!! > Thank you for any help!! > Kathy >

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The Hungarian Cultural Center of Northeastern Ohio will have their fall picnic September 11, 2005, Sunday It will be at the club Picnic Grounds-Noon to 8:00 pm, in Hiram, Ohio 44234 Phone 330-274-2786 Music from 2:00-6:00 pm Tokay Orchestra---Joe Jeromos see web site at http://www.hungarianclub.org Bill Takacs - bill8vp@alltel.net

Hi there, I recently wrote a letter to the Ukrainian Embassy requesting the birth record of my ggm, Mary Szabo who was born in Beregszasz on 21.3.1885. She was Catholic. (This really isn't the information I really want -- but it seems a place to start.) I recently received a response to that letter. It was not immensely helpful, but they did direct me to the following website: http://www.ukraineinfo.us/consular/documents.html which I had not been aware of before. My problem now is that they want the required form filled out in Ukrainian. Can anyone help? Thanks, Denise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

The Hammond Times Indiana Nov. 1, 1935 OBITS "BLIND ANDY", ex tavern owner taken by death The death of Andrew "Blind Andy" VOZAR of 3732 Main Street, in the St. Catherine's Hospital took one of the most prominent men of the city. He was 68 years old. News of his sudden death yesterday shocked many friends and a host of business men among whom the deceased was widely acquainted while he conducted a grocery store at Indiana Harbor. VOZAR succumbed after an illness of only three days. He was in an apparent state of good health despite his age. Born in Chicago, he came to East Chicago, Indiana 35 years ago and retired from active business 16 years ago. The coming of prohibition terminated his successful operation of a tavern here. "Blind Andy" was known to be a jovial character and was always ready with humorous yarns for friends. He received the sobriquet when he lost his sight 25 years ago. His wife passed away in 1912. Survivors: Daughter: Mrs. Mary SAKO of Indiana Harbor Daughter: Mrs. Ella POTTS of Oak Park, Illinois Daughter: Mrs. Anna PRESNELL of Indiana Harbor Daughter: Mrs. Margaret KUELBS of Chicago Son: Joseph VOZAR of Indiana Harbor Brother: Edward VOZAR of Indiana Harbor Sister: Mrs. Kathryn BERNELLI of Europe Services at the Holy Trinity Hungarian Roman Catholic Church and at the Prusiecki Funeral Home.

Mike and Kathy Dobra wrote: > I'm researching my husbands family. His grandfather was Gabriel DOBRA > b.1883 in Bakesh Mega, Hungary d.1967 in Cleveland OH. Gabriel's > parents were Mathew DOBRA and Julia ? b. Hungary. He married Szida > ARGYELAN 1910 in Portland OR. They had 10 children. > I'd like to find out more about Gabriel's and Szida's parents and the > village of Bakesh Mega. If anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it!! > Thank you for any help!! > Kathy Hi Kathy, have to disappoint you with your 'Bakesh Mega'! :-( The most likely interpretation is Békés megye, which is of course Békés county - with hundreds of places. Your Dobra name is rather common in Hungary. The online phone book (http://www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm) show over 300 of them. Argyelán is less common, only 33 show, but hard to tell how many still live in county Békés. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

The Hammond Times Indiana July 9, 1937 OBITS Mrs. Beta HUDAK dies early today She died in her home at 3925 Deodor Street after a long illness. She was 48 years old and resided in Indiana Harbor for many years. Survivors: Husband: Frank HUDAK Daughter: Mrs. A. J. PAPP of Gary, Indiana Daughters: Anna, Barbara, Mildred and Julia HUDAK all of Indiana Harbor. Son: Joseph HUDAK Brothers: Nick, John and William GORDON Sister: Mrs. M. ZACAK Sister: Mrs. BOMBA

I'm researching my husbands family. His grandfather was Gabriel DOBRA b.1883 in Bakesh Mega, Hungary d.1967 in Cleveland OH. Gabriel's parents were Mathew DOBRA and Julia ? b. Hungary. He married Szida ARGYELAN 1910 in Portland OR. They had 10 children. I'd like to find out more about Gabriel's and Szida's parents and the village of Bakesh Mega. If anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it!! Thank you for any help!! Kathy

Published Aug. 5, 1941, The Times Recorder, Zanesville, Ohio (Following is from an article about Naturalized citizens in Perry County Ohio. Filing new petitions for citizenship are:) Mrs. Anna Almashy, born Nov. 1, 1890 at Austria-Hungary, who arrived at New York, Oct. 8, 1924. Kalman Cecsi, Congo, Ohio, born Nov. 24, 1873, Gyomore, Hungary, arriving New York, March 7, 1909 Alexander Buza, Drakes, Ohio, born Nov. 17, 1890, Nagy Kepos, (Nagy Kapos?) Hungary, arriving New York, Nov. 10, 1912 Mary Nagy