A family member on my mother's side, Gizella Csanfordi, sailed on the Rotterdam at the age of 7 with her Nogradi cousins, arriving in the USA Oct 10, 1905. Her mother's name was Elizabeth, and in the space where it asks the destination it lists her mother, Uyabhth (?), in Cleveland. It seems to me that I've seen the Hungarian spelling of Elizabeth beginning with a "U" in other instances as well but can't remember where. Check out the manifest (line 6) and see if you're seeing what I see. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Elizabeth in Hungarian > > How many different ways are there to say Elizabeth and its diminutives in > Hungarian? > > IS Erzebet and Orze two of them? > > I am going through the new book on Germans in Veszprem Megye and also my > own > data bank and am getting confused with some of the names. > > It is enough that surnames are spelled and mis-spelled many different ways > but making heads or tails out of some given names doesn't make it any > easier. > > BTW, the book is very good. It emphasizes the need to be able to read > Hungarian to do research beyond names and dates. > > Elizabeth V. Cardinal > evc1369@comcast.net > > >

Also Zsoka , Potyi and Elisabeth Ontario Canada József (Joseph) Serflek Hungary... Scherflek, Rác, Rácz, Bodnár ..... Hajdúböszörmény ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Colby To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Elizabeth in Hungarian Elizabeth, Erzsébet is the proper spelling & there are several nicknames: Örzse, Bözsi, Böske, Erzsi, Erzsike. Judith Eöry Colby, North Vancouver, BC, Canada Hungary: EÖRY, DEBRECZENI, TOÓKOS, INCZE, DARKÓ, PÉTERFFY, PÁLFFY

Elizabeth, Erzsébet is the proper spelling & there are several nicknames: Örzse, Bözsi, Böske, Erzsi, Erzsike. Judith Eöry Colby, North Vancouver, BC, Canada Hungary: EÖRY, DEBRECZENI, TOÓKOS, INCZE, DARKÓ, PÉTERFFY, PÁLFFY

At 16:33 2005.10.04.ö, you wrote: >How many different ways are there to say Elizabeth and its diminutives in >Hungarian? > >IS Erzebet and Orze two of them? Yes. Erzsébet is the official name, Örzse is a "nickname". Tibor -=o=- Szentmarjay Tibor - http://tibu.naplopok.hu - mailto:tibor@naplopok.hu ICQ UIN: 9774467 - Tel: (20) 9226659 - Skype:Szentmarjay.Tibor

I received a letter from the Embassy of the Republic of Hungary, and have deciphered as well as I can. I wonder if someone who understands the language better then I could help me understand my interpretation. The letter follows: Thank you, Shirley Iktatószám: HUMWAS2005CLA000900 Tisztelt Ügyfelünk! A nagykövetségünkre benyújtott Horváth Hermina születési anyakönyvi kivonatának beszerzésével kapcsolatban a Belügyministérium Központi Adatfeldolgozó, Nyilvántartó és Választási Hivatal Hatósági és Felügyeleti Föosztály Anyakönyvi Osztálya tájékoztatja, hogy nevezett születési bejegyzése az 1881-ben létezett budapesti kerületek nyilvántartásaiban nem található. A fenti üggyel kapcsolatos kérdésével bizalommal forduljon Nemes Gabriella munkatársnömhöz. (Tel: 202-362-6730.251.mellék.) Tisztelettel üdvözli: (Helyes Imre) konzul

Reference has been made to lists of Hungarians with German ancestry being expelled from Hungary after both world wars. Does anyone know where or how to read these lists? Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

How many different ways are there to say Elizabeth and its diminutives in Hungarian? IS Erzebet and Orze two of them? I am going through the new book on Germans in Veszprem Megye and also my own data bank and am getting confused with some of the names. It is enough that surnames are spelled and mis-spelled many different ways but making heads or tails out of some given names doesn't make it any easier. BTW, the book is very good. It emphasizes the need to be able to read Hungarian to do research beyond names and dates. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Connie Augle wrote: > Was wondering if anyone heard of this village, Padrag. I am told that > is was or is in Hungary. I can't seem to find it. Thank you for your help > Connie Connie, Padrag was for a while Padragkút, then became part of Ajka - in county Veszprém. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Connie Augle wrote: > Dear listers, > Could someone please help me with this translation? The name I am > looking at is Gyula Gaal. She is related to me and I haven't been able > to contact her. I happened on some site, looking for email addresses > and came across this. If anyone on this list knows where I can go to > find email addresses in Hungary I would greatly appreciate getting > that site. Thanking everyone in advance for the time and > help................Connie Hi Connie, Gyula Gaál is a he! :-) Pretty young fellow, born in 1958. His father was Tibor Gaál (1922-1977), his mother Mária Tapodi (1925-). Both families hail from county Bács-Kiskun. Found an old E-mail address for him (Gaal.Gyula@mkogy.hu), but likely it does not work any more since the article you presented tells about him becoming the CEO of the MÁV, the Hungarian Railroad. This guy will be way too busy to concern himself with genealogy! :-) Don't know if his mother is still alive (I gleaned all this from an old web page: http://www.mkogy.hu/kepviselo/elet/g362.htm), but your best bet will be to track her down to find relevant information for the family. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Was wondering if anyone heard of this village, Padrag. I am told that is was or is in Hungary. I can't seem to find it. Thank you for your help Connie

Dear listers, Could someone please help me with this translation? The name I am looking at is Gyula Gaal. She is related to me and I haven't been able to contact her. I happened on some site, looking for email addresses and came across this. If anyone on this list knows where I can go to find email addresses in Hungary I would greatly appreciate getting that site. Thanking everyone in advance for the time and help................Connie Kóka János felmenti a MÁV vezérigazgatójátszeptember 15. 15:48 [MTI] A gazdasági miniszter visszahívta az igazgatóságból Mándoki Zoltánt, a MÁV vezérigazgatóját és kezdeményezte felmentését. A tárcavezetõ közölte: elnök-vezérigazgatói székében megerõsíti Gaál Gyulát, új vezérigazgatót nem nevez ki, ugyanakkor Heinczinger Istvánt általános vezérigazgató-helyettessé nevezi ki. A vasúti közlekedés tervezett reformjának keretében a következõ nyolc évben markáns, szolgáltatásminõségi, biztonsági és infrastrukturális változtatásokat lehet megalapozni - ígérte Kóka János gazdasági miniszter csütörtöki sajtótájékoztatóján. A tárcavezetõ közölte: a kabinet a közeljövõben az Országgyûlés elé terjeszti a vasúti törvény módosítására vonatkozó javaslatát, amely rendelkezik a Magyar Vasúti Hivatal felállításáról is. Kóka János hangsúlyozta, hogy nem folytatható a MÁV-nál felhalmozott csõdtömeg továbbgörgetése.

I read in a catholic newspaper yesterday that numerous catholic parish have lost years and years of church records to Katrina and the flood waters. Apparently, there is no way to reconstruct them. What they are intending to do for future marriages, if have the witnesses, maid of honor and best man, sign a document stating they know the couple were baptized and raised catholic. This will satisfy the church requirements for the sacraments of First Communion, Confirmation, matrimony and Holy Orders. It may help future generations who search for records but it will not help those looking for records of their ancestors. No doubt the records of other denominations have also been destroyed as have those of some cemeteries. The article mentioned nothing about civil records. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

>From: folklor-request@lists.hungaria.org >Subject: Folklor Digest, Vol 3, Issue 82 >To: folklor@lists.hungaria.org >Today's Topics: > > 1. Los Angeles - FALL BAZAAR (Tunde Garai) > 2. Los Angeles - OSZI BAZAR (Tunde Garai) > 3. 19th Hungarian Picnic (Eniko M.Basa) >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >FALL BAZAAR!! > >WHEN: >SUNDAY OCTOBER 9, 2005 >Starting at 12:30 PM > >WHERE: >THE FIRST HUNGARIAN REFORMED CHURCH OF LOS ANGELES >12717 York Avenue (at El Segundo & York; near the 405 & 105 Fwy junction, >vicinity of LAX.) >Hawthorne, California 90250 > >DETAILS: >FALL BAZAAR - Featuring kolbasz and hurka sausage dinners, soups, cabbage >rolls, luscious home made pastries, noodles and more for sale, plus door >prizes, raffles.... Performing: The exciting CAFE BUDAPEST BAND starring >Miamon Miller!....The Karpatok Hungarian Folk Dance Ensemble and more! ALSO >INTRODUCING.....the Buzavirag Children's Hungarian Folk Ensemble!! > >DIRECTIONS: >Take the 405 Fwy, get off on El Segundo Blvd, head east. Cross Hawthorne >Blvd., turn left on York. We are the yellow building, just in from the >corner of El Segundo Blvd. Park in one of the parking lots off the alley. > >You don't want to miss this! Phone the church at 310/355-1475 for more info. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:30:39 -0700 >From: "Tunde Garai" <tg@gtarch.com> >To: <folklor@lists.hungaria.org> >Subject: [Folklor] Los Angeles - OSZI BAZAR >Message-ID: <GNEDILBIJOKFMIFCFNMHCEMDDKAA.tg@gtarch.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT >Precedence: list >Message: 2 > > >OSZI BAZAR!! >Vasarnap - 2005 OKT 9-en > >RENDEZO NEVE: >Los Angeles-i Elso Magyar Reformatus Egyhaz > >TOBB Informacio: >d.e 11 Istentisztelet, utána Bazar. Finom magyar sütemények, izletes magyar >etelek, kolbász, hurka és csirke ebédek, beigli, tésztaköltemények - mi >szem-szajnak ingere... Magyar népzene, vásár, sorsolások, baráti szórakozás, >szerencsekerék sok nyeremeny targgyal, tombola, és mérten változatos program >várja vendégeinket! Jo ebedhez szol a nota! Zenel a Budapesti CAFE BUDAPEST >ZENEKAR! Szerepelnek a Karpatok Magyarneptanc Egyuttes es a Buzavirag Magyar >Gyerek Neptanc Egyuttes! >...Szeretettel varunk mindenkit! > >HELYE: >12717 York Ave. >Hawthorne, Calif. 90250 > >TOBB INFORMACIO-ERT: >310-355-1475 > >Egyházunkhoz - A 405-os fwy-rol az El Segundo Blvd. lejáratnál forduljon >kelet felé, majd elhagyva a Hawthorne Blvd-ot, kb. az 5-ik utca balra York >Avenue (Prairie Ave. elott). Majdnem az El Segundo és York saroknál >találhatják sárga templom épületünket. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:46:20 -0400 (EDT) >From: Eniko M.Basa <eniko.basa@verizon.net> >To: HAL Folklor - Magyar Folklor Lista <folklor@lists.hungaria.org> >To: HAL Hungary News Discussion List <hungary@lists.hungaria.org> >Subject: [Folklor] 19th Hungarian Picnic >Message-ID: <20050929234620.8BB1D3DC06D@ns2.erdely.net> >Precedence: list >Message: 3 > >19th. Semi-Annual Hungarian Picnic > >http://hungaria.org/picnic/ > >Invitation! It's party time! > >Hungarian students and young professionals in the Washington, DC >Metropolitan Area cordially invite you and your friends to our >semi-annual picnic. Join us for an afternoon of fun, food and music. > >There will be games for the kids, Hungarian Folk Dance, Sports > >Your ideas and support in organizing future events for the Hungarian >community would be appreciated (eniko.basa@verizon.net) > >Date: October 22, Saturday > >Time: 2:00 p.m. - dark > >Place: Rock Creek Park, Washington, DC (metro accessible, see >directions below) > >The picnic is free but your tax-deductible contribution is welcome. >Suggested donations: $10 per person. Bring your donations to the >picnic or send a check in advance. Please make checks payable to AHEA >(American Hungarian Educators' Association) and send to: > >AHEA >Semi-Annual Picnic >4515 Willard Ave #2210 > >Chevy Chase, MD 20814 > >Directions: > >By Car: > >Take the Connecticut Ave.exit (MD 185) south (this is the left turn >at the end of the ramp) > >Continue south at Chevy Chase Circle to the area around UDC and >Intellsat; > >Turn left on Tilden St. (same as going to the Hungarian Embassy); > >Turn right at LinneanAve (Spring of Feedom St.) or left at the foot >of the hill just before the park (Shoemaker St.); > >There is a large lot for parking as well as on-street parking on both >Shoemaker and Spring of Freedom Streets. You will see a covered >picnic area~Vthat is us. > >Picnic area 1 is across the street from the Hungarian >Embassy/Consulate. > >With Metro: > >Take the Red Line to Van Ness-DCU station; > >The escalators will take you to Connecticut Ave.; go South, toward >town or in the direction of the Intellsat Building and International >Dr.) > >Go past Van Ness and turn left on Tilden Ave. The first intersection >off Tilden will be Spring of Freedom St., the second Shoemaker. >Either will take you to the park, where you will see a covered picnic >area. That is us. >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Folklor mailing list >Folklor@lists.hungaria.org >http://lists.hungaria.org/mailman/listinfo/folklor > > >End of Folklor Digest, Vol 3, Issue 82 >************************************** > >

You may be interested in this bit of Hungarian history and culture!\ Joe Felt ()Földi) ================== >Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:08:12 -0500 >From: Kalman Magyar <magyar@magyar.org> >To: FOLKLORE LIST <folklor@lists.hungaria.org> >Subject: [Folklor] CSARDAS, The Tango of the East - 2005 Tour dates >Message-ID: <038901c5c2ef$32e6b580$6601a8c0@JudithLaptop> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT >Precedence: list >Reply-To: Kalman Magyar <magyar@magyar.org> >Message: 1 > >Dear Friends, > >Below you may observe the upcoming dates for the World Famous Budapest >Ensemble from Hungary. Please forward the information to as many friends in >North America as possible as many persons as possible know about the >fantastic performance of CSARDAS > >A DANCE AND MUSIC SPECTACULAR featuring the > >BUDAPEST Ensemble from Hungary in its performance of "CSÁRDÁS - The Tango of >the East" > >Over 200 years ago, in the mysterious villages of Transylvania, the rocky >Carpathian Mountains and the rolling plains of Hungary, a thrilling new >dance fashion called the "CSÁRDÁS" was blossoming. Its fiery passion >inspired a cultural genesis that would entrance the hearts of Hungarians and >Slovaks and their neighbors - Romanians, Poles, Croatians - and radically >change the way the world danced. > >The "CSÁRDÁS" is glamorous and versatile, punctuated by synchronized couple >dancing, thunderous boot-slapping and lightning-quick spinning, all provoked >by the romantic sounds of Gypsy violinists. It was the tango of the East. >And it survives today as the national dance of many in Central Europe. > >Join this world-renowned company of 35 dancers and musicians in a theatrical >extravaganza celebrating the energy and exhilaration of CSÁRDÁS - The Tango >of the East > >Kalman Magyar > > >CSÁRDÁS, The Tango of the East >North American Tour 2005 >Centrum Management - Tel: 201-836-4869 - web: www.csardas.org > > >20-Oct Thu 7:30 PM Boston MA >Sanders Theater, 45 Quincy Street, Cambridge, MA 02138, 617-496-2222 >www.fas.harward.edu/memhall/sanders > >21-Oct Fri TBA Montreal PQ >Hungarian Folk Dance Workshop >514-963-5377 > >22-Oct Sat 8:00 PM MontrealPQ >Theatre Outremont, 1248 Bernard Avenue West, Outremont, PQ H2V 1V6 T: >514-495-9944 www.theatre outremont.ca > >23-Oct Sun 8:00 PM Kitchener Ont >The Centre in the Square, 101 Queen Street North Kitchener, Ont. N2H 6P7 T: >519-578-1570 info: 800-545-7807 www.centre-square.com > >24-Oct Mon 8:00 PM Toronto Ont >Roy Thomson Hall, 60 Simcoe Street, Toronto, Ont M5J 2H5 T: 416-872-4255 >800-545-7807 www.roythomson. com > >25-Oct Tue NO SHOW > >26-Oct Wed 8:00 PM Hamilton Ont >Hamilton Place Theatre, 10 McNab St. S. Hamilton, ON L8P 4Y3 >T: 905-527-7666 www.hefci.on.ca > >27-Oct Thu 7:30 PM Buffalo NY >UB Center for the Arts, Amherst Campus, 103 Center for the Arts, Buffalo, NY >14260 >Center Box Office (M-F noon-6PM) ticketmaster.com charge: 716-852-5000 >Info: 716-645-ARTS CANADA: 416-870-8000 www.ubcfa.org > >28-Oct Fri 8:00 PM New Brunswick NJ >NJ State Theatre15 Livingston Avenue, New Brunswick, NJ 08910 >T:732-246-7469 www.statetheatrenj.org > >29-Oct Sat 8:00 PM Geneva NY >Smith Opera House, 82 Seneca Street, Geneva, NY 14456 >T:315-781-5483 www.thesmith.org > >30-Oct Sun 3:00 PM Bronx NY >Lehman Center for the Performing Arts Concert Hall, 250 Bedford Park >Boulevard West, Bronx, NY 10468 >T: 718-960-8833 www.lehmancenter.org > >31-Oct Mon 7:30 PM Pittsburgh PA >Byham Theater, 101 Sixth Street, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 >T: 412-456-6666 www.pgharts.org > >1-Nov Tue 7:30 PM North Pound VA >Performing Arts Center, 10824 Orby Candrell Hwy US Rte 23, North Pound, VA >24279 >T: 276-376-4520 > >2-Nov Wed 8:00 PM Greensboro NC >Carolina Theater, 310 S.Greene St, Greensboro, NC 27401 >T: 336-333-2605 www.carolinatheatre.com > >3-Nov Thu 7:30 PM Newburry SC >Newburry Opera HouseBoyce Street bet.Nance Street and McKibben St, Newburry, >SC 29108 >call: 803-276-6264 www.newberryoperahouse.com > >4-Nov Fri 7:30 PM Birmingham AL >Virginia Samford Theater at Caldwell Park, 1116 26th Street So, off Highland >Ave, Birmingham, AL 35205 >T:205-251-1206 www.virginiasamfordtheatre.org > >5-Nov Sat NO SHOW > >6-Nov Sun 7:30 PM Lafayette LA [this may change call the theater] >Heymann Performing Arts Center1373 South College Road, Lafayette, LA 70503 >T: 337-237-8686 www.pasa-online.org > >7-Nov Mon 8:00 PM Houston TX >Hobby Center for the Performing Arts, 800 Bagby St, Houston, TX 77002 >T: 713-315-2525 www.thehobbycenter.org > >8-Nov Tue NO SHOW > >9-Nov Wed 7:30 PM San AntonioTX >The Charline McCombs Empire Theatre226 N. St. Mary's Street, San Antonio, TX >78205 >Majestic Theatre Box Office, www.ticketmaster.com or call 210-224-9600 >www.majesticempire.com > >10-Nov Thu 7:30 PM Lubbock TX >Civic Center Theatre, 1501 MacDavis Lane, Lubbock, TX 79401, >children under 12 half price T: 1-800-735-1288 www.selectaseatlubbock.com > >11-Nov Fri NO SHOW > >12-Nov Sat 8:00 PM Phoenix AZ >Orpheum Theater, 203 West Adams Street, Phoenix, AZ 85203 >call tickets.com 602-262-7272 or Tickets 800-905-3315 www.tickets.com > >13-Nov Sun 3:00 PM and 7:30 PM Glendale CA >Alex Theater, 216 North Brand Boulevard Glendale, CA 91203 (matinee children >under 12 1/2 price) >818-243-2539 or 818-243-ALEX www.alextheatre.org > >14-Nov Mon 7:30 PM San Diego CA >East County Performing Arts Center, 210 East Main Street, El Cajon CA 92020 >619-440-2277 www.ecpac.com > >15-Nov Tue 8:00 PM Santa Barbara CA >Lobero Theater, 33 E.Canon Perdido Street, Santa Barbara, CA 93101 >805-963-0761 www.lobero.com > >16-Nov Wed 7:30 PM San Rafael CA >Marin Veterans' Memorial Auditorium10 Avenue of the Flags, San Rafael, CA >94903 >children under 12 & seniors half price >415-499-6800 www.ticketmaster.com > >17-Nov Thu 8:00 PM Napa Valley CA >Lincoln Theater100 California Drive, Yountville, CA 94599 >707-944-1300 www.lincolntheater.org > >18-Nov Fri 7:30 PM Fremont CA >Jackson Theater, Smith Center, Ohlone College 43600 >Mission Boulevard, Fremont, CA 94539 >510-659-6031 www2.ohlone.edu/org/smith_ctr > >19-Nov Sat 7:30 PM Klamath Falls OR >The Ross Ragland Theater >218 North 7th Street Klamath Falls, CA 97601 >541-884-LIVE www.rrtheater.org > >20-Nov Sun 7:00 PM Bremerton WA >Admiral Theater, 515 Pacific Ave, Brementon, WA 98337 >call 360-373-6743 www.admiraltheatre.org > >21-Nov Mon 7:30 PM Salem OR >Historic Elsinore Theater, 170 High Street SE, Salem, OR 97301 >503-375-3574 or 800-992-8499 www.elsinoretheatre.com > >22-Nov Tue 8:00 PM Tacoma WA >Broadway Center for the Performing Arts >901 Broadway, Tacoma, WA 98402 >253-591-5894 www.broadwaycenter.org > >23-Nov Wed 7:30 PM Portland OR >Portland State Univ.Lincoln Performance Hall1620 >SW Park Avenue, Portland, OR 97207 >503-725-3307 and ticketmaster 503-224-4400 www.ticket master.com > >24-Nov Thu 7:30 PM Vancouver BC >Centennial Theatre, 2300 Lonsdale Avenue, North Vancouver, BC V7M 3L1 >604-984-4484 visit www.ticketstonight.ca www.centennialtheatre.com > >25-Nov Fri 7:30 PM Seattle WA >Renton IKEA Performing Arts Center, 400 South Second Street, Renton, WA >98055 >206-325-6500 (ticketwindow) www.ticketwindowonline.com >www.renton.wednet.edu/ipac/ > >26-Nov Sat NO SHOW > >27-Nov Sun 7:30 PM Calgary ALT >Orpheus Theatre, SAIT Campus 1310 - 16th Avenue, Calgary, AB T2M 0L4 >732-255-4071 Ticketmaster > >28-Nov Mon NO SHOW > >29-Nov Tue 7:30 PM Winnipeg Man. >Pantages Playhouse Theatre, 180 Market Avenue East, Winnipeg, Manit. R1B 0P7 >204-780-3333 Ticketmaster or visit Ticketmaster outlet > >30-Nov Wed NO SHOW > >1-Dec Thu 8:00 PM Chicago IL >Harris Theater for Music and Dance, in Milenium Park 205 East Randolph >Drive, Chicago, IL 60601 >312-334-7777 www.harristheaterchicago.org > >2-Dec Fri 7:30 PM Bloomington IN >The Buskirk-Chumley Theater, 114 F. Kirkwood Ave, Bloomington, IN 47408 >812-323-3020 Sunrise Box Office www.buskirkchumley.org > >3-Dec Sat 8:00 PM Ypsilanti MI >Eastern Michigan Univ. Pease Auditorium On the corner of Cross Street and >College Place, Ypsilanti, MI >734-487-2282 www.emich.edu/convocation > >4-Dec Sun 4:00 PM Cleveland OH >Medina Performing Arts Center, 777 East Union St, Medina, OH 44256 >330-636-3400 www.mcsoh.org/pac > >END > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:42:42 -0500 >From: Kalman Magyar <magyar@magyar.org> >To: FOLKLOR LIST <folklor@lists.hungaria.org> >Subject: [Folklor] Unique - singular opportunity to learn from the best > HungarianAmerica >Message-ID: <009501c5c315$85d31560$6601a8c0@JudithLaptop> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT >Precedence: list >Reply-To: Kalman Magyar <magyar@magyar.org> >Message: 2 > >BOKRÉTA Ensemble of Montreal >Presents > >Giant Dance Workshop and Exciting Performance >By dancers and musicians of the BUDAPEST ENSEMBLE from Hungary > >Once in a lifetime the opportunity comes along to sample in a single weekend >the traditions of one of the world's dancingest regions - as taught by the >world's best dancers. This is the only workshop of the BUDAPEST Ensemble >during their 2005 CSÁRDÁS, The Tango of the East Tour in North America. >Visit Montreal for the weekend and immerse yourself in Central European >folklore. > >Workshops: >Friday, October 21 2005 7 - 11p.m. and Saturday, October 22 10a.m. - >2p.m. >At the rehearsal hall of L'Eclusieurs de Lachine at #70 15th Ave. in >Lachine, XXXXX XXXX > >Performance: >Saturday, Ocotber 22 at 8 PM >CSÁRDÁS, The Tango of the East >Theatre Outremont >1248 Bernard Avenue West, Outremont, PQ H2V 1V6 >Tickets: $ 25, 35, 45, To purchase tickets call: 514-495-9944 Website: >www.theatreoutremont.ca > >Schedule: >Friday evening - three 1-hour sessions (Csango, Gorale, Gypsy-basics), >followed by a short Táncház (dance party to live music) >Saturday - three 1-hour sessions (Olahos, Csardas, Gypsy-intensive) >Note: All sessions will be accompanied by live music! >Saturday at 8 PM - Performance of the CSÁRDÁS, The Tango of the East > >Here is what you will learn: > >· Gypsy dances for women and men from Transylvania >· Csángó line and circle dances from Moldavia >· "Oláhos" dances from the Hungarian Plains >· Gorale dances from the Polish Highlands >· Magyar Csárdás from Central Hungary > >Costs: Single session is $15. Each additional session is $10. Full >workshop: $50 > >Information: Agi Horvath 405 455-5254, Kalman Dreisziger 514 499-2809 >Email; Horvathagi@hotmail.com or jeszika_sara@hotmail.com > >Additional information about the workshop sessions: > >1) Gypsy >These intricate, improvised dances for women and men feature complex >footwork and syncopated rhythms. They are characterized by a fierce, >tightly-wound precision of movement and modesty of expression rater than by >'vulgar' hip movements and overt sensuality. Transylvanian gypsy dances >present a nice challenge even for accomplished dancers. (Two sessions) > >2) Csángó >The Csángó people -their name means wanderer - are the easternmost of the >Hungarian tribes. (You may have seen the wonderful article on the Csángós in >the June issue of National Geographic.) The dances of the Csángós of >Moldavia in Eastern Romania are line and circle dances. Though they are very >dynamic, these community dances are attainable for relative beginners. >Recreational folkdancers will feel right at home. > >3) Oláhos >Over 30 years ago, Andor Czompó introduced Oláhos to the recreational >folkdance movement in North America. The opportunity here is to deconstruct >his choreography and get closer to the heart of this ancient improvised >dance. The dance will be taught at beginner/intermediate level. > >4) Gorale >The dances of the Polish Highlanders are famous for their athletic >virtuosity (for men) and grace and quick footwork (for women). Here, Zoltán >Zsuráfszky's dancers (and by the way, Zoltán himself is of Goral descent) >will teach a living version of this dance - free of the usual theatrical >clichés. > >5) Csárdás >The theme dance of the current tour of the Budapest Ensemble, csárdás, is a >dance fashion which conquered Central Europe in the late 18th century. At >this session we will learn to improvise a central Hungarian version of this >elegant coupes' dance. > >Additional Information about the CSÁRDÁS, The Tango of the East >A DANCE AND MUSIC SPECTACULAR > >Over 200 years ago, in the mysterious villages of Transylvania, the rocky >Carpathian Mountains and the rolling plains of Hungary, a thrilling new >dance fashion called the "CSÁRDÁS" was blossoming. Its fiery passion >inspired a cultural genesis that would entrance the hearts of Hungarians and >Slovaks and their neighbors - Romanians, Poles, Croatians - and radically >change the way the world danced. > >The "CSÁRDÁS" is glamorous and versatile, punctuated by synchronized couple >dancing, thunderous boot-slapping and lightning-quick spinning, all provoked >by the romantic sounds of Gypsy violinists. It was the tango of the East. >And it survives today as the national dance of many in Central Europe. > >Join this world-renowned company of 35 dancers and musicians in a theatrical >extravaganza celebrating the energy and exhilaration of CSÁRDÁS - The Tango >of the East. > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Folklor mailing list >Folklor@lists.hungaria.org >http://lists.hungaria.org/mailman/listinfo/folklor > > >End of Folklor Digest, Vol 3, Issue 80 >************************************** > >

Dick Thomas wrote: > Joe: > RE: " . . . some researchers in Germany are publishing (or > attempting to publish) "Ortssippenbücher" about certain places in > Hungary . . . " > > By any chance do you have any info about additional places they might > be working on - or considering? > > Thanx, > Dick Thomas > Denver, CO > Researching Bajmok & Kunbaja, Batschka > > Joseph J Jarfas wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> just received word that some researchers in Germany are publishing >> (or attempting to publish) "Ortssippenbücher" about certain places >> in Hungary, but due to the huge amount of information and high >> printing costs some of them they could not, which included Soroksár. > Hi Richard, you will find more information here: http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/AKdFF/ Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Hi all, just received word that some researchers in Germany are publishing (or attempting to publish) "Ortssippenbücher" about certain places in Hungary, but due to the huge amount of information and high printing costs some of them they could not, which included Soroksár. Their present attempt is about Dunaharaszti/Taksony 1696-1828, which has to get started by the end of this month to be able to make it. Here is the relevant information: "We started to print a new book from Dunaharszti/Taksony 1696-1828, app. 1000 pages, DIN A4, 60 EURO plus s. + h., but we need 250 orders in advanced, it ended at 1828, if we go to 1895, we have 4 books and 200 EURO, nobody will pay that price, so only one book and this offer ends at end of october 2005. Not enough orders no book. This book included 3 register birth, death, marriage also in german and it shows you most settlers and where they come from and two generations later the people who went to Batschka, Banat and other villages in Hungary. Also inside the first 20 years of Soroksár, there was only the church in Dunaharaszti. This book is offered (advertised) in a few news papers and to genealogical societies who got our journal. So the people have time to end of october to order after that this book go the same way like Soroksár. Today we have 20 orders (wow so much) so I am sure that we not print this book; bad luck for the people but the moment is now, no more discussion about that in the future." But they did manage to print church records about Vecsés: "Vecsés is (was) printed last year and from 350 books are 300 saled (sold), Vecsés included 3 register Birth, Death, Marriage, 1034 pages DIN A4 (290x210 mm), weight 2,5 Kilo (5.5 lb), price 60 EURO plus s.+ h.. Vecsés started 1786-1895, this village is a secondary village , that means that the people come from other villages around Budapest, no new settlers. They came from Soroksár, Dunaharaszti, Taksony, Ujhartyan etc. and from places on the Buda side like Pilisvörösvar, Budajenö, Nagykovacsi and from the Csepel Island." If anybody interested in ordering any of the above, let me know and I will supply name and address. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Les, Am so happy you and yours are okay. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Hello Dan and fellow listers, We dodged another bullet. We boarded up on Saturday morning. Rained about 4 inches Friday afternoon. Winds were real bad from about 9pm. They got real bad about 3am Saturday had gusts to about 80mph at about 3:30am. It was a lot worse just south of us (about 7 miles). They had about 6 ft of water from the storm surge. It also was even worse with the wind and surge west of us. Luckily all we had was about 10 inches of rain between Friday afternoon till Saturday afternoon when the rain stopped. There is a local TV station that has a photo gallery of pictures. http://www.katc.com/ Here is the website and just click on photo gallery. Then click on Vermilion parish, that is the county just south of us where it got real bad. They are still rescuing people as we speak. Thanks for think of us, Les -----Original Message----- From: Dan Almashy [mailto:Dans57@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 5:33 PM To: lesjosa@bellsouth.net Subject: You okay? Les, I couldn't wait any longer to check on you. Just wanted to see if you are alright. I hope this note finds you in one piece and all is okay at your home. Dan

Dear Listers, I need some help translating the information stamped by a photographer on the back of a picture. I am trying to locate the birth and baptism information on my Great-grandmother, Etelka Huszar. I have received a picture of her brother and his wife. There was nothing written on it. The only information I have is the photographer's stamp on the back of the picture. I would like to scan the back of the picture and have someone translate the information for me. Thank you, Dianne Bluhm

I recently received a reply from the Embassy of the Republic of Hungary, I have been able to decipher 35 of the words, I have 8, that I do not understand. Could someone please help with these 8 fascinating words. 1. Ügyfelünk 2. nagykövetségünkre 3. Föosztály 4. táekoztatja 5. 1881-ben 6. üggyel 7. Gabriella 8. üdvözli Thank you, Shirley