Elizabeth wrote: Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Searching an entire village In the past I have been able to use Steve Morris's website to find the names of everyone who came from a specific village. Do you know if it can still be done and if you do, how do you do it. Thank You Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net Elizabeth, try this website. http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/cg.html Hope it is what you are looking for. Merry Christmas, Laszlo (Les) Josa

Elizabeth V Cardinal wrote: >In the past I have been able to use Steve Morris's website to find the names >of everyone who came from a specific village. > >Do you know if it can still be done and if you do, how do you do it. > >Thank You > >Elizabeth V. Cardinal >evc1369@comcast.net > Moved, Elizabeth, now you can use it here: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

In the past I have been able to use Steve Morris's website to find the names of everyone who came from a specific village. Do you know if it can still be done and if you do, how do you do it. Thank You Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Looks to me like Elizabeth, age 49, widow, was going to her son Alezman, Josef, Box 183, South River, NJ. Of course that is Josef Alezman or (I assume) Alexman in USA. Sue

Would someone please help me read the entry for Elizabet Tegyi that I found at www.ellisisland.org website. She arrived in the US in 1903 and I am trying to read the name of the person she was going to. It seems to be her son but I cannot decipher his surname. Thank you Cardinal,Elizabeth thought you would enjoy visiting http://www.ellisisland.org to discover your immigrant ancestry. Click http://www.ellisisland.org, or paste the URL in your browser to discover Ellis Island Online.

Thank you so very, very much. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Title Anyakönyvek, 1762-1895 Authors Római Katólikus Egyház, Talliándörögd (Main Author) Notes Az eredeti iratok mikrofilmrevétele Budapesten a Magyar Országos Levéltárban történt. Roman Catholic Church register of births, marriages and deaths for Talliándörögd. Includes Öcs, also spelled Eöcs. Subjects Hungary, Zala, Talliándörögd - Church records Hungary, Veszprém, Öcs - Church records Format Manuscript (On Film) Language Hungarian Latin Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmre vette a Genealogical Society of Utah, 1965 Physical 2 mikrofilmtekercs ; 35 mm. Film Notes Note - Location [Film] Kereszteltek, házasultak 1762-1895 Halottak 1762-1883 - VAULT INTL Film [ 699689 ] Halottak 1884-1895 Öcs Kereszteltek, házasultak, halottak 1883-1895 - VAULT INTL Film [ 699690 ] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Need help finding Microfilm > Does anyone know which roman catholic parish records would contain > information on births, marriages and deaths from Ocs and Talliandorogd in > Veszprem Megye? > > Thank You. > > Elizabeth V. Cardinal > evc1369@comcast.net > >

Does anyone know which roman catholic parish records would contain information on births, marriages and deaths from Ocs and Talliandorogd in Veszprem Megye? Thank You. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

jim575@peoplepc.com wrote: > Recently I asked for the following help regarding a very > obscure (and probably no longer existing as a) village in Hungary. I > had attempted the 1877 Gazeteer and 1810 maps, etc. based on the > writing of a local parish priest on the LDS Church Records ( as it was > only partially decipherable) for a village near Gyoma, Bekes megye > which was APPROXIMATELY "Vasuti orhaz" or "Vasuti on" or "Vasuti > vanolar" or "Vasuti vonalon" with double dots over most of the "o"s. > I have determined > that Vasut means "Railway" so am fearful that the "village > name" is simply the description of an area...well known at the time, > but never placed on a map nor recognized officially. Thanks to a > reply from Joseph Nemeth I now > know that 'Vasuti orhaz' means a railway guardhouse, > which I gather can be almost anywhere on a railway..near > that particular church. > > Wandering through a dictionary I found several words similar to > 'vanolan' relating to railways, so again the meaning is > inconclusive. Unfortunately these words were not on my specific > ancestor's record, but 'vasuti' was. In one instance > it appeared to be 'vasuti om' . Does anyone have any idea > of what this could relate to or had such a situation? I'm sure that > other locations have Railways, but have they ever been included in > church records as to locations/addresses > of those being married, having children baptzed? > > Any suggestions are welcome. Merry Christmas > > Thanks for any advice/help/prayers > > Jim Hi Jim, as Joe Nemeth explained lots of families were provided housing by the railroad to handle the switching gear and safety gates where roads crossed the tracks. They all had to be handled manually back in those days. In many places the guard house was close enough to the village to just be considered part of it, so the entry might not have even mentioned guard house or railroad. In many other places these guard houses fell outside of the village proper so there were no other addressing available. Due to the fact that not many young families (railroad men) were employed there (mostly were given to elderly, reliable people, whom they could count on doing their duty day and night) - relatively speaking - not many children were born there. But I'm sure - like in your case - the entry would have stated their (railroad guard house) place of residence, if the official bothered to record them at all. Your 'vasuti om' does not make sense; either a few more letters missing or was misread. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

The Bridgeport Telegram Connecticut Oct. 27, 1926 Maria MACSI Funeral services will be held this morning for Maria MACSI, fifty, of 881 Hancock Avenue, who died at her home on Monday. Services will be held at the home and at St. Stephen's Church. Burial in Mountain Grove Cemetery. Survivors: Husband: Kalman MACSI Son: Joseph TAKACS Daughter: Mrs. Stephen BALASH Sister: Mrs. Susie KOPCSO cheryl BALOG wenberg

Recently I asked for the following help regarding a very obscure (and probably no longer existing as a) village in Hungary. I had attempted the 1877 Gazeteer and 1810 maps, etc. based on the writing of a local parish priest on the LDS Church Records ( as it was only partially decipherable) for a village near Gyoma, Bekes megye which was APPROXIMATELY "Vasuti orhaz" or "Vasuti on" or "Vasuti vanolar" or "Vasuti vonalon" with double dots over most of the "o"s. I have determined that Vasut means "Railway" so am fearful that the "village name" is simply the description of an area...well known at the time, but never placed on a map nor recognized officially. Thanks to a reply from Joseph Nemeth I now know that 'Vasuti orhaz' means a railway guardhouse, which I gather can be almost anywhere on a railway..near that particular church. Wandering through a dictionary I found several words similar to 'vanolan' relating to railways, so again the meaning is inconclusive. Unfortunately these words were not on my specific ancestor's record, but 'vasuti' was. In one instance it appeared to be 'vasuti om' . Does anyone have any idea of what this could relate to or had such a situation? I'm sure that other locations have Railways, but have they ever been included in church records as to locations/addresses of those being married, having children baptzed? Any suggestions are welcome. Merry Christmas Thanks for any advice/help/prayers Jim

I have not had mail since Dec 12th, is it just quiet? Julie B -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005

Julie wrote: -----Original Message----- From: kajbene [mailto:kajbene@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:21 PM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Hello I have not had mail since Dec 12th, is it just quiet? Julie B Julie I know you meant to write November 12th and not December 12th. The list has been quite there have been only 6 messages posted in December. You can check out the archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/HUNGARY/ Hope this helps, Laszlo (Les) Josa

Jeannie, Thanks for sharing your Heartwarming CELEBRATION with us ALL!! I'm just beginning my quest for Eastern European Ancestors across the Ocean. I to hope my "Hunt" will be successful. Many of us, I'm sure, are Celebrating the "fruit of your labors" with you from afar. We ALL need encouragement & CELEBRATION. :) Elaine > [Original Message] > From: <jeannieuno@aol.com> > To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 12/4/2005 2:43:15 PM > Subject: [HUNGARY-L] 100th Anniversary...December 04, 1905!!! > > High... > 100 years ago today, my Hungarian GreatGrandMother, Mary > Bojt�r-Boyter, (32 yrs) and 5 of her children, Sophia 13, Katherine 10, > Julia 7, Alexander 4, and lil Mary 6 months, landed at Ellis Island > after a long, rough sea voyage on the Gerty, from the port of Trieste. > Her husband, Joseph had come over before her (arrived Sept. 20th 1904) > to set up housekeeping and also helped to tell Mary how to live aboard > the ship. > The food provided by the ships company was horrible. She told of > people who had not planned their trip well enough and did not have > enough food to last the voyage. These poor souls sold their possessions > for food. Joseph had told them not to wear any good clothing on the > voyage, and to pin money under the clothing of every child so that they > would not be sent back. She told of people not aloud to stay because > they had bugs on their clothes and nothing clean to wear. > They all seemed to do well except one daughter, who developed > "spots", and the whole family was afraid that at least she or all of > them would be sent back to their lil village of �jvid�k in Budapest. > They were lucky enough that the spots had disappeared by the time they > sailed into New York Harbor. > Mary always told that this was one of the most frightening > experiences of her life. To this day, I can't imagine what it must have > been like for her to leave her home, taking her 5 children, getting > aboard a ship and sail steerage across the Atlantic to a country where > she knew no one but her husband, and could not speak the language. We > definately have to admire what a strong and courageous woman she must > have been. > THANK YOU MARY!!! > I would also like to thank my mother's cousin, Miriam (Snookie) for > her stories and information, and a HUGE thank you to the HUNGARY list > at rootsweb for your help in bringing facts to these stories. Everyone > on this list is so kind and helpful, I love you all!!! (And I'm sure > I'm not done with you yet!!!) > I've been hooked on genealogy for awhile now...I do it mostly for > the challenge of the hunt and for the joy of finding something after > hours of searching. I'm hoping after I'm gone somebody in my family > will continue it, but if they don't that's okay, too. It was my hunt... > > Jeannie A. Gibbs, very PROUD > descendant of Maria Bojt�r, > Owner/Manager of J & J Village Market > and Gramma Jeannie to: Zach, Leah, > Hannah, Camden, Madelyn, Ian, > Mhallik, Maliyah, Ryley & Danny!!! > > What is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of > our ancestors by the records of history??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

High... 100 years ago today, my Hungarian GreatGrandMother, Mary Bojtár-Boyter, (32 yrs) and 5 of her children, Sophia 13, Katherine 10, Julia 7, Alexander 4, and lil Mary 6 months, landed at Ellis Island after a long, rough sea voyage on the Gerty, from the port of Trieste. Her husband, Joseph had come over before her (arrived Sept. 20th 1904) to set up housekeeping and also helped to tell Mary how to live aboard the ship. The food provided by the ships company was horrible. She told of people who had not planned their trip well enough and did not have enough food to last the voyage. These poor souls sold their possessions for food. Joseph had told them not to wear any good clothing on the voyage, and to pin money under the clothing of every child so that they would not be sent back. She told of people not aloud to stay because they had bugs on their clothes and nothing clean to wear. They all seemed to do well except one daughter, who developed "spots", and the whole family was afraid that at least she or all of them would be sent back to their lil village of Újvidék in Budapest. They were lucky enough that the spots had disappeared by the time they sailed into New York Harbor. Mary always told that this was one of the most frightening experiences of her life. To this day, I can't imagine what it must have been like for her to leave her home, taking her 5 children, getting aboard a ship and sail steerage across the Atlantic to a country where she knew no one but her husband, and could not speak the language. We definately have to admire what a strong and courageous woman she must have been. THANK YOU MARY!!! I would also like to thank my mother's cousin, Miriam (Snookie) for her stories and information, and a HUGE thank you to the HUNGARY list at rootsweb for your help in bringing facts to these stories. Everyone on this list is so kind and helpful, I love you all!!! (And I'm sure I'm not done with you yet!!!) I've been hooked on genealogy for awhile now...I do it mostly for the challenge of the hunt and for the joy of finding something after hours of searching. I'm hoping after I'm gone somebody in my family will continue it, but if they don't that's okay, too. It was my hunt... Jeannie A. Gibbs, very PROUD descendant of Maria Bojtár, Owner/Manager of J & J Village Market and Gramma Jeannie to: Zach, Leah, Hannah, Camden, Madelyn, Ian, Mhallik, Maliyah, Ryley & Danny!!! What is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history???

Thanks to all who passed on the URL for the online Hungarian book. I've been reading it and it is fantastic! My father came from Kisvarda in Szabolcs Megye and I found many references to culture, etc. in that area which have been very helpful. I find the information fascinating and am so glad it is in English as I don't read Hungarian. Again, thanks to all for your help. Edith -----Original Message----- From: HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Nov 30, 2005 1:00 AM To: HUNGARY-D@rootsweb.com Subject: HUNGARY-D Digest V05 #295

help!! Have any readers attempted to obtain information on VERY small obscure (and probably no longer existing as a) village in Hungary. I have attempted the 1877 Gazeteer and 1810 maps, etc. PLUS, the name written by the local parish priest on the LDS Church Records is only partially decipherable. I am seeking 1840-70 era in Bekes megye, near Gyoma.. the only written name I can determine is: "Vasuti orhaz" or "Vasuti on" or "Vasuti vanolar" or "Vasuti vonalon" with double dots over most of the "o"s. I have determined that Vasut means "Railway" so am fearful that the "village name" is simply the description of an area...well known at the time, but never placed on a map nor recognized officially. Has anyone ever encountered such a situation? Anyone ever heard of this area? I have ordered another microfilm of an area adjacent to Gyoma, but don't know how to determine which churches are near this area. Thanks for any advice/help/prayers Jim

Jim, The "Vasuti õrház" is a "Railroad crossing guardhouse" and it is the address of the people. That's were they lived and their job was to bring down the barrier when ever the train was coming. The railroad provided the housing. So it maybe that they lived in: Gyoma vasuti õrház, instead of a street address. I hope this helps Joseph M. Nemeth -----Original Message----- From: jim575@peoplepc.com [mailto:jim575@peoplepc.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:24 PM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Very small obscure villages help!! Have any readers attempted to obtain information on VERY small obscure (and probably no longer existing as a) village in Hungary. I have attempted the 1877 Gazeteer and 1810 maps, etc. PLUS, the name written by the local parish priest on the LDS Church Records is only partially decipherable. I am seeking 1840-70 era in Bekes megye, near Gyoma.. the only written name I can determine is: "Vasuti orhaz" or "Vasuti on" or "Vasuti vanolar" or "Vasuti vonalon" with double dots over most of the "o"s. I have determined that Vasut means "Railway" so am fearful that the "village name" is simply the description of an area...well known at the time, but never placed on a map nor recognized officially. Has anyone ever encountered such a situation? Anyone ever heard of this area? I have ordered another microfilm of an area adjacent to Gyoma, but don't know how to determine which churches are near this area. Thanks for any advice/help/prayers Jim

The website for Balassa and Ortutay's book is http://mek.oszk.hu/02700/02790/html/index.html. Everything in the original book is on the website except for the colored plates. Photographs and illustrations can be enlarged by clicking on them. Janet

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Fred Marino <edith10306@earthlink.net> Sent: Nov 29, 2005 10:15 AM To: HUNGARY-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Hungarian book online I was just reading about the above in you recent e-mails to each other. Would someone please send me the URL to this book? I would like to have a look at it and I don't know the web site address. Thanks very much for your help. Edith