Yes Elizabeth, I agree with you, I have gotten some of my best info from my postings. Even after several years. So to all.......post post post. cheryl BALOG wenberg ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth V Cardinal To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Help Ted, I do not know where the civil records are recorded or if they have been filmed but I have recently found out that records exist pre dating those that have been filmed. I have an honest and true third cousin living in Veszprem, Megye that has been able to access the old books some of which have records back to the early 1700's. Property records also exist as well as old Census records. Having had this cousin find me through information I put out onto the net has been a tremendous blessing as every day he sends me new information and lately he has visited the cemeteries and taken picture of old family tombstones. I am not talking from just one village but from several. Moral of the story....put your information on the net...through one of the genealogy programs...you never know who will contact you. I was also blessed with a cousin from a German line finding me and helping me go back a few centuries. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

I am researching my ancestors who lived in Ganna, Veszprem County, Hungary. Vital records were recorded in churches up to 1895 and then they were recorded by civil authorities after that year. I have film showing the church records but cannot locate where the civil records were recorded. Can someone tell me where these records are located so I can continue my research? Thanks Ted tex7barb@msn.com<mailto:tex7barb@msn.com>

Gerald, I would like one the CDs to share with the family. Do you have any left? What do I need to send you? Kathy Kostrub kathykpa@aol.com Own only what you can carry with you; know language, know countries, know people. Let your memory be your travel bag. - Alexander Solzhenitsyn

If anyone is interested I have a few more Hungarian CDs. The following songs are: Szrelemre Szulettem- Zoltán Erika Nem kell - Oláh Ibolya Forogj világ - NOX Szászor õlelj - NOX Ebredj fel - NOX Béres legény - NOX Csak játssz - NOX Magyarorzág - Oláh Ibolya Magyar Csillagok - Republic Also Tim & Mary Kotsay and Terri Forgacs Bracali you said that you wanted a copy. I made them up for you but I need your address. Gerald (Dobozy) Kisabeth

Our first trip we used General Tours. Very satisfied. In Budapest it was just us with the tour guide and a driver. Lots of big tour buses but I really liked our one-on-one tour. And be sure to bring back paprika. It's nothing like the red stuff you buy here. By the way, would you please contact me privately? I have a favor to ask. Marlene HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: HUNGARY-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 31 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [HUNGARY-L] Anyone help sort o [JJasper381@aol.com] #2 Re: [HUNGARY-L] Need travel tips f [JJasper381@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from HUNGARY-D, send a message to HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:41:34 EST From: JJasper381@aol.com To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Anyone help sort out confusion? Your wrote before 1910, so perhaps in Ill?> I would guess that the William shown in the 1900 Census is the Bella shown in the 1910 Census. I had an uncle originally named Bella but he went by William. Probably the 1900 or 1910 Census is in error as far as his birth place is concerned. In 1900 Paul and Dora/Boro had a total of two children both living. These were William and John. Between the 1900 and 1910 Census, they had seven more children. Six of the seven died ( Margaret survived). Of those born before 1900, William/Bella survived and John died. Those dying that you have identified would be, according to your records, John, Ella, Paul (1) and Paul (2), which amounts to five. If the 9/2 record in the 1910 census is correct, you are missing two. Mary, the daughter born in Hungary was not counted in the 1900 Census but she may have been recalled in the 1910 census, which would leave one to be identified. This is not unusual. I have an aunt die in infancy in Dayton around the same time frame and an official record of her death has never been found. Jerry ______________________________Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:17:59 EST From: JJasper381@aol.com To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Need travel tips for Budapest Joe, You wrote: Budapest, and (2) Budapest hotels in the economy to mid-level price range.> If it is your first trip there, I would suggest a tour the first day out. You can then return on your own for the must see places. Regarding a hotel, I stayed a couple years ago at the Hotel Victoria. It was wonderful. Great location, great view from all rooms, wonderful people and reasonably priced. You can check it out at http://www.victoria.hu/ Jerry

Joe, You wrote: <I would appreciate any suggestions for (1) "must see" places to visit in Budapest, and (2) Budapest hotels in the economy to mid-level price range.> If it is your first trip there, I would suggest a tour the first day out. You can then return on your own for the must see places. Regarding a hotel, I stayed a couple years ago at the Hotel Victoria. It was wonderful. Great location, great view from all rooms, wonderful people and reasonably priced. You can check it out at http://www.victoria.hu/ Jerry

Your wrote <Their first child, *William*? was born 1897 in Ill. and must have died before 1910, so perhaps in Ill?> I would guess that the William shown in the 1900 Census is the Bella shown in the 1910 Census. I had an uncle originally named Bella but he went by William. Probably the 1900 or 1910 Census is in error as far as his birth place is concerned. In 1900 Paul and Dora/Boro had a total of two children both living. These were William and John. Between the 1900 and 1910 Census, they had seven more children. Six of the seven died ( Margaret survived). Of those born before 1900, William/Bella survived and John died. Those dying that you have identified would be, according to your records, John, Ella, Paul (1) and Paul (2), which amounts to five. If the 9/2 record in the 1910 census is correct, you are missing two. Mary, the daughter born in Hungary was not counted in the 1900 Census but she may have been recalled in the 1910 census, which would leave one to be identified. This is not unusual. I have an aunt die in infancy in Dayton around the same time frame and an official record of her death has never been found. Jerry

"Donna Dale Elliott" wrote: > ... Where is Nauer ut 12, Lugosch. Are there resources in that town which I could write to, to find out family information? "Lugosch" is the German name for the town of Lugoj, today in Timis County, Romania, at 60 km E from Timisoara. In Hungarian language "ut" is "road" or an abbreviation for "utca" meaning "street". If you need help, contact us privately. GenealogyRO Group http://www.genealogy.ro http://www.genealogy.ro/Contributions.htm Genealogical Research & Probate Investigations Full research capabilities for Banat, Transylvania & Romania

You are right. For some reason they didn't put it into this issue of the newsletter. You can subscribe by writing to Maria Korasz, Keeper of the Collection, at Korasz@sk-szeged.hu. You can find archived issues going back to 2003 at http://www.sk-szeged.hu/szolgaltatas/vasvary/newsletter/index.html. Prior to that they were published in hard copy only, by mail. Janet -----Original Message----- From: kajbene@bellsouth.net [mailto:kajbene@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:30 PM To: 'Janet Kozlay' Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Hungarian Newsletter Janet, I looked it over and would like to subscribe, but don't see where to do it. Julie B

I found Ann's great-great-grandfather among the Kossuth emigration. His name was Jozsef Tomics. I have privately sent her quite a bit of information about the fate of the group that he immigrated with. He was among those who followed Kossuth to Turkey during his temporary exile there and then immigrated to America in 1851. They were hoping to join the Hungarian community in New Buda, Iowa, but lack of funds prevented most of them from going that far. Janet Kozlay

Ann Martinez wrote: > Hi: I am trying to research my Husband's Great Great Grandfather. He > was born in Baranya Megye in about 1820. The problem is I have so many > spellings of his name I don't know which one is even close. I have > Joseph Tomas Tomicz, Tomice, Tolmich, Tolmiche, and Talmadge. Do any > of these sound like they could be right? We think that his parents > were Austrian and Italian. He came to the United States about 1848 and > supposedly served in the Austrian military before that. I have heard > mention of a war with Kasheau. If anyone has any suggestions on where > to look I would appreciate them. Thanks Ann Hi Ann, those name spelling variations all look equally plausible. Here is a web site where you can see the frequency of names gleaned from a 19th century collection. http://www.radixindex.com/surnameindex/surnameindex.shtml But without a place of birth it's hard to locate genealogical data. You can not query the Military Archives in Austria without a proper name and at least the mother's maiden name. If you have any clue whatsoever for his place of birth you can order the the relevant film rolls from LDS for the 'neighborhood' and search through village by village. A tremendous task, but not impossible. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net

Hi: I am trying to research my Husband’s Great Great Grandfather. He was born in Baranya Megye in about 1820. The problem is I have so many spellings of his name I don’t know which one is even close. I have Joseph Tomas Tomicz, Tomice, Tolmich, Tolmiche, and Talmadge. Do any of these sound like they could be right? We think that his parents were Austrian and Italian. He came to the United States about 1848 and supposedly served in the Austrian military before that. I have heard mention of a war with Kasheau. If anyone has any suggestions on where to look I would appreciate them. Thanks Ann

----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Dale Elliott To: hungary-L@rootsweb.net Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: Nauer ut 12, Lugosch My search for KASCHITZ Ludwig in Hungary, has lead me to his daughter's immigration information. The name spelling has changed several times, so of course I am verifying my information. I believe that once in the US ludwig became Louis KASSITZ, then later Louis KASITZ. This is his daughter. Does this address still there? Where is Nauer ut 12, Lugosch. Are there resources in that town which I could write to, to find out family information? From: /~banatdata/DDB/ByVillage/Lugosch.htmEmigration from Banat in the National Archives Ship Records KASSIK Victoria -[K220]- Age: 26 -From: Lugosch -DtAr: Wednesday, 10 Nov 1909 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: Bre/NY -Ship: Geo Washington -Note: Born in Lugosch. Mother, Franziska Kassik, lives at Nauer ut 12, Lugosch. Going to join father, Ludwig Kassik. Thank you so much Donna Dale Elliott

My search for KASCHITZ Ludwig in Hungary, has lead me to his daughter's immigration information. The name spelling has changed several times, so of course I am verifying my information. I believe that once in the US ludwig became Louis KASSITZ, then later Louis KASITZ. This is his daughter. Does this address still there? Where is Nauer ut 12, Lugosch. Are there resources in that town which I could write to, to find out family information? From: /~banatdata/DDB/ByVillage/Lugosch.htmEmigration from Banat in the National Archives Ship Records KASSIK Victoria -[K220]- Age: 26 -From: Lugosch -DtAr: Wednesday, 10 Nov 1909 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: Bre/NY -Ship: Geo Washington -Note: Born in Lugosch. Mother, Franziska Kassik, lives at Nauer ut 12, Lugosch. Going to join father, Ludwig Kassik. Thank you so much Donna Dale Elliott

I just noted that the excellent Magay-Orszagh Magyar-Angol (Hungarian to English) dictionary is for sale on Ebay for only $4.99. You can see it at http://cgi.ebay.com/TWO-BOOKS-HUNGARIAN-ENGLISH-DICTIONARY-HUNGARY_W0QQitemZ 4606967914QQcategoryZ378QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem. (Or search on Ebay for Item 4606967914.) I paid nearly $40.00 for mine, and I use it constantly. There is only one day left on the auction, and there have been no bidders. Janet

The latest edition of the Vasvary Collection Newsletter has just been released at http://www.sk-szeged.hu/szolgaltatas/vasvary/newsletter/05dec/tartalom.html. This newsletter, which is issued twice a year, primarily features articles about Hungarian-Americans. Most of the articles are in English. The present issue contains articles about Hungarian churches in New York City, by Stephen Beszedits, and about the Hungarian community and the Hungarian Heritage Museum in Cleveland, by Maria Friedrich. I would encourage you to subscribe to this interesting newsletter. Janet

thank you for that website the phrase book and audio. HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: HUNGARY-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 23 Today's Topics: #1 [HUNGARY-L] Pronunciaton [J1a2c3k@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from HUNGARY-D, send a message to HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:40:41 EST From: J1a2c3k@aol.com To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Pronunciaton I discovered this today, and although it's been on this list before, Les suggested posting it again for some new listers who might not be aware of this site....it has some phrases and the alphabet with Hungarian pronounciations...it also had audio, which I didn't try myself. _http://www.single-serving.com/Hungarian/index.php_ (http://www.single-serving.com/Hungarian/index.php) Jack Kovacs --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.

Hi all, yesterday got wind of this story due to the fact that a friend of mine knows the Pusztai family. If not quite genealogy today, in a few generations it will be! :-) http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1137944703221530.xml?starledger?ntop&coll=1 If anybody can help in any way, let me know. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

For those of you that are interested I have the web site of the Hungarian Dance & Music group named NOX. You can sample some of their videos. http://www.nox.hu/index.php I also sent out some Hungarian CDs today. I sent CDs to Marlene Norton, Laszlo Josa, Tina Southwick, Kathy Borgoy and Patricia Bowman. Gerald (Dobozy) Kisabeth

Gerald, thank you for the website and the CD. I enjoyed the website. Just wish the screen would have been a little larger. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Kisabeth [mailto:gkisabeth241950MI@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:59 PM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com) Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Hungarian Group Web address For those of you that are interested I have the web site of the Hungarian Dance & Music group named NOX. You can sample some of their videos. http://www.nox.hu/index.php I also sent out some Hungarian CDs today. I sent CDs to Marlene Norton, Laszlo Josa, Tina Southwick, Kathy Borgoy and Patricia Bowman. Gerald (Dobozy) Kisabeth