Thanks Judy, AWESOME website! Thanks so much, Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Mann To: polloe@earthlink.net Sent: 2/27/2006 7:03:44 PM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Hungarian Censuses are available???????????? Hello Elaine Usually the LDS catalogue will tell you if there are census films available for the village you're researching. The following link shows the list of counties Martha Connor transcribed from the 1828 census microfilms. The chart also gives the the film numbers. If you're county hasn't been transcribed, then it can be looked up on he LSD website. http://www.dvhh.org/research/resources.htm#TAX Keep in mind the 1828 census does not give you a list of the whole family, only the head of the family as it was a land tax census. There was also a census for 186? (4?) but not all of the country has been filmed by the LDS for this census. I don't know the reason nor do I know if the missing parts will be available at some time, but it's worth doing a search for it. Not much to go on, but hopefully that gets you started in the right direction. Judy "polloe@earthlink.net" <polloe@earthlink.net> wrote: Hi, Please pass along where others can find or access Hungarian Censuses. I had no idea they were available anywhere. Thanks so much, Elaine polloe@earthlink.net Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos

<<Any help or advise would be appreciated.>> It is a difficult question to answer without knowing how much they know about you or your line and how much you know. Without knowing those answers...I would say keep it very simple and friendly...build up a relationship first. I know there are people on list who would help you compose a letter in Hungarian. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Hi, Please pass along where others can find or access Hungarian Censuses. I had no idea they were available anywhere. Thanks so much, Elaine polloe@earthlink.net

Hi, Can anyone recommend a good auditory tape or CD program to learn: * Hungarian * Czech Thanks for your help. Elaine

Cheryl & list, Here's another Mary Bodnar (my maternal grandmother): DEATH: ID#: 0258480 Name: Nogrady, Mary Date: Jun 20 1942 Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #060. Notes: Nogrady, Mary (nee Bodnar) --Beloved wife of Paul, darling mother of the late Jeanne, Mrs. Ollie Kovatch and Fred, grandmother of Carole and Alan. Friends may call at Lukacs' Funeral Home, 12014 Buckeye. Interment Highland Park Cemetery. Services Monday, June 22, at 2 p.m. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheryl BALOG wenberg" <cherlock@cheqnet.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 3:12 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] BODNAR obit 1930 ALMASSY named > > > The Daily Courier Connellsville Pennsylvania May 19, 1930 > Obits > > Mrs. Mary BODNAR dies at Everson > > Scottdale > > Mrs. Mary BODNAR, 66 years old, died early Sunday morning at her home in > Brown Street, Everson. > > The body was removed to the home of a daughter, Mrs. Albert ALMASSY at > 205 Graff Street, Everson. > > She is survived by three daughters. > > Services will be held Tuesday with burial in the Scottdale Cemetery. >

The Daily Courier Connellsville Pennsylvania May 19, 1930 Obits Mrs. Mary BODNAR dies at Everson Scottdale Mrs. Mary BODNAR, 66 years old, died early Sunday morning at her home in Brown Street, Everson. The body was removed to the home of a daughter, Mrs. Albert ALMASSY at 205 Graff Street, Everson. She is survived by three daughters. Services will be held Tuesday with burial in the Scottdale Cemetery.

Dear List, Now that we are on to that surname, does anyone have a Katie ALMASSY in the tree? I have a Katie who married Louis SIPOS and they had the following children: Margaret Andrew Steve Thanks! Angela

Dear List, A concise address. Besides the importance of the 1956 Revolution, we must also never forget Hungary's roll in initiating the end of the Cold War. Pay particular attention to the paragraph beginning "Though the Warsaw Pact, etc." I remember when this happened, I believe in May 1989 and it snowballed into a November 1989 tearing down of the Berlin Wall, and subsequently August 1991...the end of the Cold War. Marika Remarks by Secretary Rice on the 50th Anniversary Year of the Hungarian > Revolution > > Secretary Condoleezza Rice > Benjamin Franklin Room, Washington, DC > February 13, 2006 > > > SECRETARY RICE: Thank you very much. Welcome to the Department of State. We > are > here today to commemorate the Hungarian people's journey toward freedom, a > journey tested by great suffering and by great tragedy, but a journey that > could > not be deterred from its ultimate triumph. > > I am so grateful to be joined here by Ambassador Simonyi, by my great friend, > Congressman Tom Lantos. I see many friends here, of course, members of the > Diplomatic Corps. I see also the former Secretary of Defense, Bill Cohen, > also a > former senator from Maine. Thank you for joining us. > > > There are many, many friends here because we all want to celebrate the > triumph > that the Hungarian people ultimately had, but also to remember the tragedy > that > was endured. I'd like to recognize and welcome the religious leaders who are > here, His Eminence Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, Archbishop of Washington; > Rabbi > Arthur Schneier, the president of the Appeal for Conscience Foundation; and > the > Reverend G. Wilson Gunn, the General Presbyter of the National Capital > Presbytery. And you may know that I'm also a Presbyterian. Thank you for > being > here. > > > I'm especially honored that with us this afternoon are also many proud > Hungarians who witnessed and shaped the events of 1956. You imagined a free > and > democratic Hungary. You sacrificed and you've suffered for it. And I think > that > we owe, to each and every one of you, a round of applause and gratitude. > > > For 12 days in 1956, the Hungarian people caught a fleeting glimpse of their > independence. Armed with little more than a love of liberty, the impatient > patriots of Hungary rose up against the mighty Soviet empire. They stormed > the > jails and they freed political prisoners. They took back their country's > radio > waves and broadcast the censored sounds of Mozart and Beethoven. And they > imagined a new future for Hungary, where they and their fellow citizens would > determine their own future in freedom without facing foreign oppression or > fearing the midnight knock of the secret police. > > > For 12 days, there was hope, but then came the response and it was terrible > and > ferocious. Soviet troops and tanks rumbled into Hungary, killing tens of > thousands of people and condemning thousands of others to Siberian gulags. > > > A desperate exodus began. Two hundred thousand Hungarians, men, women and > children, fled the land of their birth and sought shelter in the West. The > United States opened its doors to the driven sons and daughters of Hungary. > In > time, these immigrants put down new roots and they started new businesses and > they added to the diverse and wonderful character of America. > > > 1956 was a year of unspeakable tragedy for the Hungarian people, but 50 years > later, from the vantage point of history, we see that 1956 was also the > beginning of something greater, something far more promising. In the > Hungarian > Revolution, the world saw that hope was alive behind the Iron Curtain. In 12 > days of freedom, impatient patriots throughout Eastern Europe drew > inspiration > for their own struggles and in the stories of oppression that Hungarian > refugees > told, free nations learned the true character of the Soviet regime and their > will to resist it grew stronger. > > > The hope for independence was never extinguished in the Hungarian people. > They > resisted Soviet imperialism to the very end and they were the first in their > region to make the transition to democracy. Immediately, Hungary's free > government began realizing the goals that all Hungarians had longed for > during > the dark days of communism: liberty and human rights, the rule of law and > equal > justice, free enterprise and growing wealth. > > > Today, the nation of Hungary is a model for all the world of the security and > the prosperity and the success that come with freedom and democracy. From its > earliest years, a young, democratic Hungary also worked for the freedom of > others. In 1989, as the Soviet Union tottered beneath the weight of its own > contradictions, East German citizens fled their country in large numbers and > sought sanctuary in Hungary. > > > Though the Warsaw Pact required the return of all refugees, the citizens of > Hungary refused to be Erich Honecker's border guards. They spurned imperial > commands and sheltered East Germans fleeing persecution. Through their > actions, > the Hungarian people added to the great momentum of freedom that finally > swept > away the Berlin Wall and helped reunite the German people and ultimately, > transformed Europe into a continent, whole, free and at peace. > > > Hungary's support for the freedom of others now stretches throughout the > world, > from the Balkans to Afghanistan to Iraq and beyond. In Budapest, the > Hungarian > Government has created the International Center for Democratic Transitions, > which pools the knowledge and experience of democratic nations to help > countries > across the world navigate their own transitions to democracy. These lessons > are > accelerating the march of freedom in our time, yet the lessons of Hungary's > history also point toward timeless principles that transcend the challenges > of > today. > > > In Hungary's journey toward freedom, we see that justice can be delayed, but > it > cannot be denied. In Hungary's experience of freedom, we see that liberty > unlocks the God-given potential of all people to rise as high as their > talents > will take them. And in the actions of the Hungarian democracy, we see that > liberty, once achieved, is not a scarce resource to be hoarded, saved > selfishly. > It is the universal right of all humanity summoning all free peoples to > service > and sacrifice on behalf of those still denied that liberty. > > > The United States values our Hungarian partners and we still have much work > to > do together. So, let us rededicate ourselves today to a common mission of > ensuring freedom at home and defending freedom abroad. The memories of the > fallen, the memories of the heroes, the memories of history demand no less of > us. > > > Thank you very much. > > > > >

Would like to thank every one who helped with info on Hungarian research for Mike Tamok. Will admit I was thrilled to see it as Mike Tamok is my husband's maternal grandfather. I've made connections with Mr. Wharton & we're in the process of exchanging information. Again, thanks to everyone who offered suggestions. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Wharton" <redmim2@yahoo.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Michael Tamok > I'm looking for info on Mike Tamok. I believe he came > to USA in 1909 from Oborar, Hungary. I have found a > Mihaly Tamoh in the Ellis Island listing could Michael > be americanized Mihaly? Where is Oborar? Where could I > get information on his birth, family etc. in Hungary? > Mike died in 1961, his wife Esther in 1947, and all of > his four daughters are now deceased so I am having to > research for all information. I think his first stop > in USA was in southern Ohio, he died In Lorain, ohio. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Al in NM > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

Jerry and Joe, Thank you for the help. I know when I purchased my Szatmar m records that the one for Zemplen with not available. Thank you for the address. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph J Jarfas" <jjarfas@ezaccess.net> To: "marlo" <marlo50@nwonline.net> Cc: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] 1828 census > marlo wrote: > >> About 10 years ago I purchased a printed copy of the 1828 Land >> Census and it was Szatmar County by Martha Remer Connor. >> Does anyone know how I can reach Martha? Has she done any >> more of the counties? Has anyone transcribed the 1869 census >> into printed form? I am really looking for Zemplen m., the villages >> of Bodrogmezo and Lelesz and Polyan especially. I hope I can >> reach Martha if she reads this. Margaret > > Hi Margaret, > > last thing I heard Martha does not have a computer therefore she is not > on the Internet! :-) She was using an old fashioned typewriter to do her > admirable work. Don't know if she is still working - whether she is alive > at all, but here is a web site which provided her snail mail address: > > http://www.feldenzer.com/Takats%20surnames.htm > > Joe > Equinunk, PA - USA > jjarfas@ezaccess.net > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.0/269 - Release Date: 2/24/2006 > >

marlo wrote: > About 10 years ago I purchased a printed copy of the 1828 Land > Census and it was Szatmar County by Martha Remer Connor. > Does anyone know how I can reach Martha? Has she done any > more of the counties? Has anyone transcribed the 1869 census > into printed form? I am really looking for Zemplen m., the villages > of Bodrogmezo and Lelesz and Polyan especially. I hope I can > reach Martha if she reads this. Margaret Hi Margaret, last thing I heard Martha does not have a computer therefore she is not on the Internet! :-) She was using an old fashioned typewriter to do her admirable work. Don't know if she is still working - whether she is alive at all, but here is a web site which provided her snail mail address: http://www.feldenzer.com/Takats%20surnames.htm Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Margaret, If you have not heard directly from her, I have Martha's address. I am not comfortable putting her address on the Internet so if you would contact me at jjasper381@aol.com, I would be pleased to give it to you. Yes, Martha has the 1828 Land Census for Zemplem. I also have the same for Szatmar. Jerry

About 10 years ago I purchased a printed copy of the 1828 Land Census and it was Szatmar County by Martha Remer Connor. Does anyone know how I can reach Martha? Has she done any more of the counties? Has anyone transcribed the 1869 census into printed form? I am really looking for Zemplen m., the villages of Bodrogmezo and Lelesz and Polyan especially. I hope I can reach Martha if she reads this. Margaret

Al, Did you get the death certificates for Mike and Esther and their obituaries? The death certificates ask for the place of birth and parents names. If the person giving the information knew, it might be on there. In the obit it usually tells which church or organization they belonged to and that would give you more resources? I am assuming you searched the census. Good Luck Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph J Jarfas" <jjarfas@ezaccess.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Michael Tamok > Al Wharton wrote: > >> I'm looking for info on Mike Tamok. I believe he came >> to USA in 1909 from Oborar, Hungary. I have found a >> Mihaly Tamoh in the Ellis Island listing could Michael >> be americanized Mihaly? Where is Oborar? Where could I >> get information on his birth, family etc. in Hungary? >> Mike died in 1961, his wife Esther in 1947, and all of >> his four daughters are now deceased so I am having to >> research for all information. I think his first stop >> in USA was in southern Ohio, he died In Lorain, ohio. >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Al in NM > > Hi Al, > > it should be safe to assume that your Mihály, which is equivalent to > Michael, came from Abara, county Zemplén, district Nagymihály. Presently > called Oborin in Slovakia. > > Looking at his ship manifest that Oborar must have been the Hungarian > pronunciation of the Slovak name of the place, which I have never heard > before. > > LDS has copies of the Reformed church books for Abara, alas only 'til > 1895. Hopefully their birth records fall within that time frame. > > Joe > Equinunk, PA - USA > jjarfas@ezaccess.net > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net] >

Darren Hayday wrote: > Hello! > > Does anyone have any information on the Vilaghy surname and family? > sziasztok, van valami informaciotok a Vilaghy csaladdal kapcsolatban? Hi Darren, are you familiar with radix forum? http://www.radixforum.com/surnames/vilaghy/index.html That's where the Világhy's congregate. Somebody mentioned there that your ancestors might have been associated with the place named Világ, in county Zemplén, district Mezőlaborc. Presently in Slovakia as Svetlice. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Al Wharton wrote: > I'm looking for info on Mike Tamok. I believe he came > to USA in 1909 from Oborar, Hungary. I have found a > Mihaly Tamoh in the Ellis Island listing could Michael > be americanized Mihaly? Where is Oborar? Where could I > get information on his birth, family etc. in Hungary? > Mike died in 1961, his wife Esther in 1947, and all of > his four daughters are now deceased so I am having to > research for all information. I think his first stop > in USA was in southern Ohio, he died In Lorain, ohio. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Al in NM Hi Al, it should be safe to assume that your Mihály, which is equivalent to Michael, came from Abara, county Zemplén, district Nagymihály. Presently called Oborin in Slovakia. Looking at his ship manifest that Oborar must have been the Hungarian pronunciation of the Slovak name of the place, which I have never heard before. LDS has copies of the Reformed church books for Abara, alas only 'til 1895. Hopefully their birth records fall within that time frame. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Hello! Does anyone have any information on the Vilaghy surname and family? sziasztok, van valami informaciotok a Vilaghy csaladdal kapcsolatban?

Cheryl wrote: > short blurb under Naturalization in Perry County Court > New Lexington Ohio The Times Recorder June 5, 1941 > New Petitioner: Mrs. Anna ALMASHY, born Nov. 1, 1890 at Austria >Hungary, who arrived > at New York, Oct. 8, 1924 Cheryl, How did you access the New Lexington Times Record? Online, I hope? I have family from Perry County, Ohio. In particular I'm looking for any information about Joseph SOLTESZ and his wife Elizabeth LOVASZ who arrived in the US in 1903(?). Joseph died in 1907-1908, and Elizabeth married Steve MATISZ in 1908 at the Perry County courthouse (Steve arrived in the US 1989). Elizabeth then died in 1909 and Steve moved to Duquesne PA. Because they lived in the area for such a brief time, I'm having real trouble finding info. I've found the marriage record for Elizabeth and Steve, and the death record for Elizabeth, but I can't find anything for Joseph or were she and Joseph are buried - or any record of the son they had in mid-1908 (my grandfather, who was brought to Duquesne in1909 by Steve after Elizabeth's death). Incidentally, the SOLTESZ family was originally from Abaujalpar (Abauji-Torna), a small town near Boldogkoujfalu. The closest larger towns are Encs and Szerencs (Zemplen). We believe the MATISZ family was originally from Borsi (Zemplen) near Satoraljaujhely. Thanx, Sharon D. Guerra mailto:guerra_family@hotmail.com

The Davenport Leader Iowa April 2, 1896 Obits INCZE Yesterday morning at his residence in Davenport Township about two miles east of the city on the Middle Road occurred the death of Francis INCZE, one of the older settlers of Scott County. The deceased was a man of more than ordinarily interesting personal history. He was born in Hungary on March 28, 1825 and came to this country with the great Hungarian patriot Baron KOSSUTH in 1852. He was intensely patriotic and was consequently a close friend of Louis KOSSUTH the celebrated character in the history of liberty who passed away a little over a year ago. Mr. INCZE first located at Cincinnati, coming to Davenport four years later in 1856. In 1874 he purchased a fruit farm on the Middle Road, East Davenport, which was his special pride, the old man bringing it to such a degree of perfection that its products were considered to be the finest in the market. He lived on it up to the time of his death, which was caused by stomach trouble from which he was a sufferer for the past five years. About a year ago he grew worse but until the past few days it was not thought that there was any immediate danger of death. He is survived by his wife and six children. Survivors: Wife: ? Son: Nicholas, an artist and engraver in Salt Lake City Son: Charles of this city Eogene, Clara, Agnes and Celestine at home. Services from the residence with internment at Oakdale.

I'm looking for info on Mike Tamok. I believe he came to USA in 1909 from Oborar, Hungary. I have found a Mihaly Tamoh in the Ellis Island listing could Michael be americanized Mihaly? Where is Oborar? Where could I get information on his birth, family etc. in Hungary? Mike died in 1961, his wife Esther in 1947, and all of his four daughters are now deceased so I am having to research for all information. I think his first stop in USA was in southern Ohio, he died In Lorain, ohio. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Al in NM __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com