Again I have to ask someone the archive address. The one I have tells me it is not available. If you send it to me again I will make sure I save it to a safe place. Thank you. Margaret

Margaret wrote: Again I have to ask someone the archive address. The one I have tells me it is not available. If you send it to me again I will make sure I save it to a safe place. Thank you. Margaret Margaret, here is the link for the HUNGARY LIST ARCHIVE http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/HUNGARY/ Hope this helps, Laszlo (Les) Josa

Please do not use subject headers such as: <<RE: [HUNGARY-L] Re: HUNGARY-D Digest V06 #94>> And please do not include the entire digest in your response. First of all, we often do not know what post you are responding to and have to read the entire digest to find it. Honestly, I do not do it. Second of all, most of us do not want to open a post when we don't know what the subject is. I do not open posts that do not have a subject header such as RE: [HUNGARY-L] Re: HUNGARY-D Digest V06 #94 Thank You Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Let me add my 2 cents worth. If there are children, try searching for a child by first name and age. That's how I found my family. Adults seem to get younger through the years so you can't estimate their age. More likely to find a child. The family I searched for came over as Petozsky, 1910 it was BETSKY, 1920 BETSOCASKIE and 1930 the married child was CASKIE and the original family was BETOZHKIE. Marlene ----- Original Message ---- From: HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com To: HUNGARY-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2006 4:01:18 AM Subject: HUNGARY-D Digest V06 #94 Content-Type: text/plain HUNGARY-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 94 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [HUNGARY-L] Surname: VACLAVIC [Geza Varga <ozma_mama@yahoo.co.uk>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from HUNGARY-D, send a message to HUNGARY-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ -----Inline Message Follows----- Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:14:43 +0200 From: Geza Varga <ozma_mama@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Surname: VACLAVIC or VACLAVIK. SPELLING Hi, As to the 1st question: Vaclavik is more probable. How about Vaszlavik? Geza At 18:29 2006.03.28.öTuesday, you wrote: >Hi All, > >First question: > Would VACLAVIC or VACLAVIK be a Hungarian spelling of this > Surname? If not, what would be possible Hungarian spellings? > >Second question: > How might this surname be "Americanized" over the years? > >I wonder, because I find this Surname on a 1910 PA Census, but can't find >the family anywhere in 1920 or 1930 > >In addition, I'm not finding the family on Ship Manifests. That leans me >to the possibility that the 1910 spelling is a variation the family used >once in America for a few years, but changed again once they became more >accustomed to American spellings. > >Thanks for your help. > >Elaine >polloe@earthlink.net > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 2006.03.29. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 2006.03.31.

Hi, As to the 1st question: Vaclavik is more probable. How about Vaszlavik? Geza At 18:29 2006.03.28.öTuesday, you wrote: >Hi All, > >First question: > Would VACLAVIC or VACLAVIK be a Hungarian spelling of this > Surname? If not, what would be possible Hungarian spellings? > >Second question: > How might this surname be "Americanized" over the years? > >I wonder, because I find this Surname on a 1910 PA Census, but can't find >the family anywhere in 1920 or 1930 > >In addition, I'm not finding the family on Ship Manifests. That leans me >to the possibility that the 1910 spelling is a variation the family used >once in America for a few years, but changed again once they became more >accustomed to American spellings. > >Thanks for your help. > >Elaine >polloe@earthlink.net > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 2006.03.29. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 2006.03.31.

An update on the 1875 notation at the birth of Rosalia Naisz of Szerdahely: Unfortunately I mis-read the script. My apologies. It does not say "prius mator, acc suporior"; but rather "prius nata, ac superior." which means "earlier born than the previous one," i.e., Rosalia was born earlier than the baby listed just above her entry. Thanks to all for clearing this up. Her g-gp are our direct line. Pat

Sorry I can't help you Maria, but I also have 2 short one page letters from a grand aunt from Sopron dated 1902. Some of it was transcribed but other parts don't make any sense at all. If someone on the List who is knowledgeable with translating Hungarian, is willing & has time to help they can e-mail me privately and I'll fax the letters to that person. It didn't scan well when I tried. Let me know. Thanks, Carole Imes Winter Springs, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "María Eugenia Kromholc" <mariuk@gmail.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Translation help!!! > Hi everybody! > > I have found some letters my grandmother received by 1960's. They were > written by her sister in law. Unfortunately they are written in magyar and > I > don't read nor even understand a word of it. I wanted to ask you if > someone > with magyar knowledge would be so kind of reading one of this letters (I > would scan it) and give me a rough translation, so I could have any idea > of > what were they talking about. I hope there's some information there that > will help me in my ancestors research. > > If you are not interested or have no time to do it, I will understand. > Thanks in advance, > Maria Eugenia Kromholc >

Hi everybody! I have found some letters my grandmother received by 1960's. They were written by her sister in law. Unfortunately they are written in magyar and I don't read nor even understand a word of it. I wanted to ask you if someone with magyar knowledge would be so kind of reading one of this letters (I would scan it) and give me a rough translation, so I could have any idea of what were they talking about. I hope there's some information there that will help me in my ancestors research. If you are not interested or have no time to do it, I will understand. Thanks in advance, Maria Eugenia Kromholc

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Dear list, I found my grandfather's arrival record in America, listing his mother's address in Budapest. I can't find the street name on current city maps. Any suggestions? Dezso Horvath, 24, arrival Boston, 23 Mar 1921, via Hamburg, from Budapest. Mother: Julia Horvath, Ravczemie 50, Budapest Thank you in advance! Anastasia Herold (horvath)

Janet, Thanks for you tip. It allowed me to find information about Pardany, (aka Pardanj) the village of my grand mother who I have been researching. Meda is a village located in the Zitiste municipality, in the Central Banat District of Serbia, Serbia and Montenegro. It is situated in the Autonomous Province of Vojvodina. The village has been known under names Pardanj and Nincicevo in the past. I have bookmarked the website as a "must save!) Many thanks, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@comcast.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Nagykikinda > Kikinda (Hungarian Nagykikinda) is presently in the Banat region of > Serbia, > SE of Szeged HU. The population today is about 3/4 Serbian and 13% > Hungarians. You can find an interesting article and photos at > http://www.answers.com/topic/kikinda. > > Janet >

Janet, Thanks for the tip. I found information about Međa (Међа) a village located in the Žitište municipality, in the Central Banat District of Serbia, Serbia and Montenegro at the same website. I have bookmarked the website as a "must save." Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@comcast.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Nagykikinda > Kikinda (Hungarian Nagykikinda) is presently in the Banat region of > Serbia, > SE of Szeged HU. The population today is about 3/4 Serbian and 13% > Hungarians. You can find an interesting article and photos at > http://www.answers.com/topic/kikinda. > > Janet >

Hi All, First question: What would be the Hungarian spelling of this Surname? I'm wondering if JOZICK is a Hungarian Surname, or would it be more like JOSZIK? What might be other Hungarian spellings options for this name? Second question: How might this surname be "Americanized" over the years? I wonder, because I find this Surname on a 1910 PA Census, but can't find the family in 1920 or 1930 I'm wondering if the Males in the next generation chose to spell their Surname with yet another variation. Thanks for your help. Elaine polloe@earthlink.net

Hi All, First question: Would VACLAVIC or VACLAVIK be a Hungarian spelling of this Surname? If not, what would be possible Hungarian spellings? Second question: How might this surname be "Americanized" over the years? I wonder, because I find this Surname on a 1910 PA Census, but can't find the family anywhere in 1920 or 1930 In addition, I'm not finding the family on Ship Manifests. That leans me to the possibility that the 1910 spelling is a variation the family used once in America for a few years, but changed again once they became more accustomed to American spellings. Thanks for your help. Elaine polloe@earthlink.net

Thank you Janet & Elizabeth! With your dual efforts, you've cleared up a big family mystery... and I'd never seen the Hungarian name site you forwarded, Janet. The other Hungarian given name sites I checked didn't have the names Vida or Vitus. Thanks again. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@comcast.net> To: "'Carole D. Imes'" <cimes@cfl.rr.com>; <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Hungarian first names website > According to the website at http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/hun2.php, > Vida > as a given name is indeed the Hungarian form of Vitus. It is also a > relatively common surname. > > Janet > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carole D. Imes [mailto:cimes@cfl.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:08 AM > To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Hungarian first names website > > All I could find so far is that Vida is the Spanish word for life. > I'm curious about the Veger's background as most Vegers are Dutch or > French according to LDS. I definitely need to do more research on this > line. Most of > the Vegers from Sopron settled in South Bend, Indiana and many of > the descendants are still living in that area. Anyone else out there have > any connection with Vegers? > Carole Imes > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=seeeye > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> > To: "'Carole D. Imes'" <cimes@cfl.rr.com> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:17 AM > Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Hungarian first names website > > >>I hope someone confirms my suspicion about Vida being Vitus. >> >> Elizabeth V. Cardinal >> evc1369@comcast.net >> >> >> > > > >

According to the website at http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/hun2.php, Vida as a given name is indeed the Hungarian form of Vitus. It is also a relatively common surname. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Carole D. Imes [mailto:cimes@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:08 AM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Hungarian first names website All I could find so far is that Vida is the Spanish word for life. I'm curious about the Veger's background as most Vegers are Dutch or French according to LDS. I definitely need to do more research on this line. Most of the Vegers from Sopron settled in South Bend, Indiana and many of the descendants are still living in that area. Anyone else out there have any connection with Vegers? Carole Imes http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=seeeye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> To: "'Carole D. Imes'" <cimes@cfl.rr.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Hungarian first names website >I hope someone confirms my suspicion about Vida being Vitus. > > Elizabeth V. Cardinal > evc1369@comcast.net > > >

All I could find so far is that Vida is the Spanish word for life. I'm curious about the Veger's background as most Vegers are Dutch or French according to LDS. I definitely need to do more research on this line. Most of the Vegers from Sopron settled in South Bend, Indiana and many of the descendants are still living in that area. Anyone else out there have any connection with Vegers? Carole Imes http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=seeeye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> To: "'Carole D. Imes'" <cimes@cfl.rr.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Hungarian first names website >I hope someone confirms my suspicion about Vida being Vitus. > > Elizabeth V. Cardinal > evc1369@comcast.net > > >

Kikinda (Hungarian Nagykikinda) is presently in the Banat region of Serbia, SE of Szeged HU. The population today is about 3/4 Serbian and 13% Hungarians. You can find an interesting article and photos at http://www.answers.com/topic/kikinda. Janet

Sincerest appreciation to all who helped both on and off the list. With regard to Rosalia Naisz of Szerdahely: I am told "prius mator, acc suporior" means Holy Mother Superior. I suspect my spelling was a bit off. Perhaps her 1952 death record may help. As for the 1884 record of Theresia Kapiller(sp?) of Bozsok: On looking at the notations again, I believe it does say Meghalt 1892 evi Julai..9th. ... ( the rest being difficult to decipher). The sketch of the cross & scroll then becomes more curious as I doubt an 8 year old would have been in a novitiate. If located, would the death record give more information? Your the best. Thanks! Pat

Very interesting, Elizabeth ... thanks! And how can I forget St. Vitus' Dance? I haven't heard that in years!! Still curious about Vida and like you say, it's probably Vitus in Hungarian. I just realized, I also have the surname Vida in my family database. Joseph Vida (born 1889 in Fer. Nagy Kikinda, Hungary) married my mother's maternal 1st cousin. I don't know where in Hungary Fer. Nagy Kikinda is located. My mother's maternal side was all from Nagy Kapos (now Slovakia). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Re: Hungarian first names website > <<Also his grandson's middle name is Vitus ... another mystery. > Thanks!>> > > There is a St.Vitus. http://www.catholic-forum.com/saintS/saintv07.htm > > I would think Vida is Vitus. > > Elizabeth V. Cardinal > evc1369@comcast.net > > > >