I have just received a letter from Hungary written totally in Hungarian....would someone be so kind as to translate it for me???? Thank you Jim Lakatos

Many years ago I knew a man whose first name was Beci. I am thinking that Beci was really a nickname. Can anyone tell me whether it is a nickname, and if so, what is it a nickname for? Thanks! Jayne perllan987@aol.com

Thank you Les. It is sad to see any church closing but especially sad when an ethnic parish has to close. Long gone are the days.... Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Hello, just want to pass on this sad news about Hungarian church closing in Buffalo Area Laszlo (Les) Josa http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060502/1038742.asp Retirement of priests to close Lackawanna Catholic church -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hungarian-based parish dwindles to 20 families By JAY TOKASZ News Religion Reporter 5/2/2006 Click to view larger picture Sharon Cantillon/Buffalo News The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Church in Lackawanna will close Sunday. A Catholic church established in Lackawanna in 1918 will celebrate its final Mass on Sunday. Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Church at 80 Steelawanna Ave. will close because of the retirement of two Piarist priests. The congregation had dwindled to 20 families, with only a dozen people attending Mass on Sundays, said the Rev. Kalman Miskolczy, pastor since 1993. The church building also needs extensive repairs, he said. Miskolczy is 85 and the Rev. Nicholas V. Fodor, associate pastor, is 81. Both are retiring and will be transferred to the Piarist headquarters in Devon, Pa. "It causes me heartache, but at our age and the lack of the people" made closing the church necessary, Miskolczy said. "Most of [the parishioners] understand. There are some who said two or three years ago, "Father, there's no reason; close the church,' " Miskolczy said. The closing is not part of the Catholic Diocese of Buffalo's strategic planning effort, which started last summer and still is under way. But at its March meeting, the diocesan strategic planning commission reviewed the recommendation to close. The church, established for Hungarian immigrants, remained one of two in the diocese that still offered a Sunday Mass in Hungarian. The other is St. Elizabeth Church at 986 Grant St. in Buffalo. The closing Mass will be celebrated in English by Auxiliary Bishop Edward M. Grosz. It will include hymns and readings in Hungarian, Miskolczy said. Diocesan officials haven't determined what to do with the humble white clapboard church and attached rectory. Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Church has a colorful history. It started with about 75 families who had been attending St. Charles Church, which was later renamed Queen of All Saints and closed in 1998. Father Nelson Baker, Buffalo's candidate for sainthood, consecrated the new church in 1918. Cardinal Joseph Mindszenty of Hungary twice visited the parish. In the early 1950s, when the church had 270 registered families, it added Masses in Spanish. Lester Vilagy of Lackawanna, a parish trustee, said he probably would end up worshipping in nearby St. Hyacinth Church on Ridge Road. "It's going to be a sad day, there's no doubt about that," said Vilagy, 82, who has been a member of Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Church since his childhood. "We tried, but to no avail. Most of the people are elderly, and they're on a fixed income." The final parish Mass will be celebrated at 4 p.m. A farewell dinner will follow in the Hungarian American Social Club, 660 Tonawanda St. e-mail: jtokasz@buffnews.com

In a message dated 04/25/2006 4:22:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, evc1369@comcast.net writes: > Is Antal ...Anthony? > Yes, sometimes Anton, Tony, Anthony in English Margaret

Is Antal ...Anthony? Thanks Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Does Hungary issue death certificates similar to those issued in the US? I would like to obtain one from 1942 for Marton Grund who is buried in the cemetery in Band. Family lore said he died in the War...in North Africa, but he is not listed on the War Memorial. Any suggestions? Thanks Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

WORLD WAR 11 *MY FAMILY HORNUNG, JANOS * JUNG, ISTVAN LEINCZ, FERENC REINDELCZ, ANTAL STIENBACH, MARTON WINKELMAN, ANTAL HORVATH, ANTAL* KRAMLIK, FERENC LINCZMAJER, ANTAL STEINBACH, BALINT STEINMACHER, ADAM JUNG, ANTAL* LAUER, JOZSEF NENINGER, GYORGY STAUB, JANOS STEINBACH, ISTVAN STEINMACHER, JOZSEF Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

It seems that most villages have erected war memorials. I have pictures of a few. The following is in Band, Hungary where my grandmother was born, World War 1 * My family BROTSCHOOL, ISTVAN ENDER, JANOS* JAGER, ANTAK* LENNERT, FERENC * LOHN, LEOPOLD ORBAN, JANOS* PUCHINGERM GYORGY STEIGLER, OLOP* ECKERT, FERENCE HAPL, ANTAL* JULLING, FERENCE* LENNERT, FERENC * MAR, FERENC PICHNER, FERENC SCHONIG, ANTAL* STEINBACH, JOZSEF ENDER, FERENC* HOFFMAN, ANTAL LENNERT, JOZSEF* NESZTINGER, JANOS PICHNER, JANOS SIMON, ANTAL* WELK, GYORGY Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

I see that Martha Conner's ad in the Genealogical Helper with 3 new counties. Without sending a letter asking her for a price does anyone know how much these books cost? I'd like to just order the specific book now instead of waiting for a return letter and delaying obtaining the book. Thanks. Gerald (Dobozy) Kisabeth

Is there anyone on the list who is crafty with the Aktiv IT phone numbers for Hungary? I always struggle with it! :( I am trying to find out if there are any NYARI folk in the towns of Malomsok or Marczalto. I would be most appreciative of help! Angela Grand Rapids, Mi.

I recently stumbled across this site while searching Parish Praczidich Ivanich that has baptismal, burial, and marriage records on-line for 7 parishes in Croatia. If you are researching any of these places, it’s worth a look. The parishes include Bogicevci, Cernik, Nova Gradiska, Oriovac, Staro Petrovo, Stivica and Vrbje. Many of you may already know about this site, but I though it was worth mentioning. http://www.demog.berkeley.edu/croatia/   I neglected to include the address in my first e-mail.  Sorry about that. Rosemary

I recently stumbled across this site while searching Parish Praczidich Ivanich that has baptismal, burial, and marriage records on-line for 7 parishes in Croatia. If you are researching any of these places, it's worth a look. The parishes include Bogicevci, Cernik, Nova Gradiska, Oriovac, Staro Petrovo, Stivica and Vrbje. Many of you may already know about this site, but I though it was worth mentioning. Rosemary

I think you may be right. I looked at it again, and I think I can make out the letters Newark. What terrible handwriting...lol Thank you very much. Anne JJasper381@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:38:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >asprentz@buckeye-express.com writes: >Three Sprencz's traveling together, and I cannot make out their final >destination. Would someone care to take a look? > >Anne, >Could it be Newark, NJ? Would this fit in to the location near where son >Gyorgy was born or where the family lived on their previous trip(s) to America? > >Jerry > > > > >__________________________________________________________ >Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com >1:14:51 PM ET - 4/13/2006 > > > >

In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:38:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, asprentz@buckeye-express.com writes: Three Sprencz's traveling together, and I cannot make out their final destination. Would someone care to take a look? Anne, Could it be Newark, NJ? Would this fit in to the location near where son Gyorgy was born or where the family lived on their previous trip(s) to America? Jerry

Three Sprencz's traveling together, and I cannot make out their final destination. Would someone care to take a look? At the Ellis Island website, type in the name: Borbala Sprencz who arrived Mar. 16, 1907 She is traveling with her husband Gyorgy and son Gyorgy. Thanks in advance. Anne

Elizabeth wrote: To you and your families. Thank you everyone who responded to my request for Nagymama. I am going to teach it to my grandson. Oh...how do you say grandson? Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net Elizabeth it is unokafiu (grandson) Unokalany (granddaughter) Laszlo (Les) Josa

Elizabeth V Cardinal wrote: > To you and your families. > > Thank you everyone who responded to my request for Nagymama. I am going to > teach it to my grandson. > > Oh...how do you say grandson? > > Elizabeth V. Cardinal > evc1369@comcast.net Same to you Elizabeth, and all the others, unoka (refers to all grandchildren), unokám, aranyom, édesem. The last two are my golden, my sweet ... used with or without name. I will be off the list starting Easter - and won't be back 'til 25 May. Good luck to all. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net

To you and your families. Thank you everyone who responded to my request for Nagymama. I am going to teach it to my grandson. Oh...how do you say grandson? Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Kellemes Húsvéti Ünnepet to all May the sprinkeled water bring you happiness and renewal this spring time. Also there is an other name used "Nagyi" for grandparents. József (Joseph) Serflek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laszlo Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:45 AM Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Grandma Elizabeth wrote: Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Grandma How does one say Grandma or Grandmother in Hungarian? Thank You Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net Elizabeth, before I forget I want to wish everybody a very HAPPY EASTER. Grandmother is Nagyanya or the more endearing term is Nagymama Grandfather is Nagyapa or the endering term is Nagypapa Hope this helps, Laszlo (Les) Josa