Lynn, There are various ways of doing this but the easiest way I have found is using a program called " Unicode Keyboard" by Fanix Software. You can download the program at : http://www.fanix.com/ It is free to try for 30 days and then you can buy it for $19.95. It can be used to type characters in any Latin-based language. It is easy to use and I think it works great.Well worth the money. Bill Hada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Davis" <lcdavis04@hotmail.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Grammatical/Pronunciation Marks How does one put the accent marks over the letters in messages? That's something I never learned how to do. Thanks for everyone's help. Lynn Davis researching: Palenik, Kristyak, Forstner _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 5/12/2006

My grandfather, Jozsef Csanadi (listed as Csanad on manifest) emmigrated from Gelse, Zala Megye, Hungary on April 4, 1912. He was born August 5, 1893. His ship, the Zeeland, docked in Portland, Maine and he took a train to Hamilton, Ontario. He came back to the US in 1914 (though I cannot find the record, the date is listed on his Naturalization papers). The story goes that his name was changed at the Canadian border to Joseph Chonody. He had a sister, Anna. I assume she stayed in Hungary. I am looking for all family in Hungary. Thanks. Debi Chonody Ross

Mary Ann, Although you didn't give your mother's name, I believe it was Mary, born April 20, 1913. Mary Kocsis returned from Hungary in 1937, age 23, single, and apparently not traveling with family or friends. She gave her home address as 520 Christiancy Street, Lansing. Interestingly, that is the same address as the Estok family in the 1930 Census. The Estok family had several sons, one of whom was the same age as Mary. While it is possible that the families were related, it could also be that they were close friends. In the 1920 Census the Estok family lived on River Road in Lansing. I do not find the Kocsis family in any of the Census records, nor their immigration records. I hope this is at least a little help. Janet -----Original Message----- From: MWhitt1028@netscape.com [mailto:MWhitt1028@netscape.com] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:13 AM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Re: HUNGARY-D Digest V06 #113 Hi I have been trying to find information about my mother's relatives. She died in 1976. Her maiden name was Kocsis (which now I realize is somewhat common). Her father's name was Antony Kocsis (some place I found Anton ) and her mother was Anna Lemak Kocsis. Anna mother was Mary Giscsek from Veszprem, Hungary. Anthony Kocsis mother was Elizabeth Markos born 1730 died 1750. Mother had one (or two when mother spoke about her family)sister name Anna. A. and Anna Kocsis lived in Michigan (mother was born in Lansing in 1913). They went back to Hungary and before WWII my mother came back to the US. I THINK somehow the Kocsis is related to the Estok from Lansing, MI because when we had a family vacation to MI, mother went to Lansing and looked up Estok in the phone book and preceded to talk in Hungarian and then we went to visit Helen Estok who passed away in 1991. I've tried everything I know to look up and see if I have any relatives (my father passed in 2004). Any help! would be greatly appreciated. TIA Mary Ann _____________________________________________________________ Netscape. Just the Net You Need.

I have two Kocsis or Krocsis individual in my family data base. They were from Pula. What records have you checked? Who immigrated and when? Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Hi I have been trying to find information about my mother's relatives. She died in 1976. Her maiden name was Kocsis (which now I realize is somewhat common). Her father's name was Antony Kocsis (some place I found Anton ) and her mother was Anna Lemak Kocsis. Anna mother was Mary Giscsek from Veszprem, Hungary. Anthony Kocsis mother was Elizabeth Markos born 1730 died 1750. Mother had one (or two when mother spoke about her family)sister name Anna. A. and Anna Kocsis lived in Michigan (mother was born in Lansing in 1913). They went back to Hungary and before WWII my mother came back to the US. I THINK somehow the Kocsis is related to the Estok from Lansing, MI because when we had a family vacation to MI, mother went to Lansing and looked up Estok in the phone book and preceded to talk in Hungarian and then we went to visit Helen Estok who passed away in 1991. I've tried everything I know to look up and see if I have any relatives (my father passed in 2004). Any help! would be greatly appreciated. TIA Mary Ann _____________________________________________________________ Netscape. Just the Net You Need.

Hello, 1. Yes (same pronounciation), yes (same pronounciation) and no (that's completely different) 2. Possible. I don't understand the part with Lorincz and Albert. 3. Just send them to me, I'm happy to have a look. Best wishes Geza At 02:14 2006.05.11. Thursday, JANDA143@aol.com wrote: >Dear List, > >I am hoping that someone can provide some insight. > >1. Is it safe to assume that the surname Tsizmadia and Csizmadia are one in >the same? If so, would the same be true for Csordos & Tsordos? Would >Kardos fit in there anywhere? > >2. I have found some interesting baptismal records for my family. There is >a Simon Galambos who had a daughter named Anna. I have found a marriage >record for an Anna, same year of birth, but her surname was Simon? Could >it be >one in the same Anna? I have also seen that (or what I believe to be that) >with a Lorincz and Albert. > >3. Is there anyone on the list who would be willing to look at some >pictures to tell me if they are baptismal or marriage records? > >Thanks in advance! > >Angela > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 2006.05.11. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 2006.05.11.

Dear List, I am hoping that someone can provide some insight. 1. Is it safe to assume that the surname Tsizmadia and Csizmadia are one in the same? If so, would the same be true for Csordos & Tsordos? Would Kardos fit in there anywhere? 2. I have found some interesting baptismal records for my family. There is a Simon Galambos who had a daughter named Anna. I have found a marriage record for an Anna, same year of birth, but her surname was Simon? Could it be one in the same Anna? I have also seen that (or what I believe to be that) with a Lorincz and Albert. 3. Is there anyone on the list who would be willing to look at some pictures to tell me if they are baptismal or marriage records? Thanks in advance! Angela

Jayne, No Száz Géza. There is a Szász Géza; however, he did not die in Russia but in Balf, NW Hungary. There is also a Sas Géza, with not too many details. Best wishes Geza At 22:59 2006.05.07.öSunday, Perllan987@aol.com wrote: >Dear List: > >I have tried and tried to find my father-in-law on the page below: > >http://www.hadifogoly.adatbanyaszat.hu/search.php?search=1&tablak=&vez=Szaz& >ker=Geza&szul=1941&m=on&o=on&s=on&t=on&k=on&x=71&y=14 > >He was a prisoner of war in a Soviet prison camp for about two years. He must >have been in the prison in 1944 and the early part of 1945, and in 1943 also. >His name was Geza Szaz, or Szaz Geza, according to the Hungarian way of >writing it. I have tried 1942, 1943, 1944, 1945, and, for good measure, >1946, but >he does not come up. > >I would much appreciate it if someone who knows Hungarian would type his name >into the appropriate boxes and select the years above for a search. > >Thank you very much. > >Jayne >perllan987@aol.com > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 2006.05.08. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 2006.05.08.

Dear List: I have tried and tried to find my father-in-law on the page below: http://www.hadifogoly.adatbanyaszat.hu/search.php?search=1&tablak=&vez=Szaz& ker=Geza&szul=1941&m=on&o=on&s=on&t=on&k=on&x=71&y=14 He was a prisoner of war in a Soviet prison camp for about two years. He must have been in the prison in 1944 and the early part of 1945, and in 1943 also. His name was Geza Szaz, or Szaz Geza, according to the Hungarian way of writing it. I have tried 1942, 1943, 1944, 1945, and, for good measure, 1946, but he does not come up. I would much appreciate it if someone who knows Hungarian would type his name into the appropriate boxes and select the years above for a search. Thank you very much. Jayne perllan987@aol.com

Hello Consider the surname names Bodnár, Bogár. József (Joseph) Serflek ----- Original Message ----- From: <JANDA143@aol.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] BOGNAR Dear List, Does anyone know of an alternate spelling for BOGNAR? Is it possible that I misread the spelling? Any suggestions welcome and needed. Angela

Dear List, Does anyone know of an alternate spelling for BOGNAR? Is it possible that I misread the spelling? Any suggestions welcome and needed. Angela

Angela, Just wanted to pass on a THANK YOU! This isn't something I need, but what a great thing to do, transcribing the records. Dorrene :o)

My apologies to those who may have seen this on other Hungarian lists Searching for Family Feb.27-29 in 1904 at Rokus Hospital in Budapest was born out of Wedlock to Amelia Klein (then 18-19 yrs) a daughter whom she named Ilona Klein, whom she gave up for adoption. it is assumed that Amelia Klein was of Jewish heritage, but not confirmed. Amelia's daughter Ilona, has since past on but Ilona's daughter lives and wishes to find aunts, uncles and / or cousins .... When Ilona was alive she was consumed with finding family, her daughter now takes on this role. If you know who Amelia was and are related to her in any way please contact me by way of this list or at my email address...any help in locating this family is appreciated.

Anne, There was a Kisida in Abauj Torma m. and is now Malá Ida Slovakia according to my Hungarian atlas. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Sprentz" <asprentz@buckeye-express.com> To: <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Location help >I am looking at the location for a: > > Janos Sprincz arr Sep 07, 1913 on the Ellis Island manifests. It looks > to me like Risida, but I can't find this place. Does anyone know where > this place might be or am I deciphering it wrong? > > Thanks in advance. > Anne > > Do you know who killed my father? > John B. SPRENTZ murdered 17 May 1983, ECORSE MI > See my website for further details. > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2651/Unsolvedmurder.html > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 5/2/2006 > >

-----Original Message----- From: Janet Kozlay [mailto:kozlay@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:09 PM To: 'Anne Sprentz' Subject: RE: [HUNGARY-L] Location help It is Kisida or more properly Kis Ida, now Mala Ida, about five miles southwest of Kosice. I agree the place of birth looks more like Risida, but his last residence was clearly Kisida. Microfilms for the Roman Catholic church are available, but you need to specify Kis Ida. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Anne Sprentz [mailto:asprentz@buckeye-express.com] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:44 AM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY-L] Location help I am looking at the location for a: Janos Sprincz arr Sep 07, 1913 on the Ellis Island manifests. It looks to me like Risida, but I can't find this place. Does anyone know where this place might be or am I deciphering it wrong? Thanks in advance. Anne Do you know who killed my father? John B. SPRENTZ murdered 17 May 1983, ECORSE MI See my website for further details. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2651/Unsolvedmurder.html

I am looking at the location for a: Janos Sprincz arr Sep 07, 1913 on the Ellis Island manifests. It looks to me like Risida, but I can't find this place. Does anyone know where this place might be or am I deciphering it wrong? Thanks in advance. Anne Do you know who killed my father? John B. SPRENTZ murdered 17 May 1983, ECORSE MI See my website for further details. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2651/Unsolvedmurder.html

"FATELESS" Touching tale of holocaust in Hungary editorial@hamhigh.co.uk 05 May 2006 The massacre of a large part of Hungarian Jewry is one of the great crimes of European history. "Fateless" tells part of the terrible story, based on an autobiographical novel by Imre Kertesz, who won the Nobel prize for literature in 2002. It has been released in America, to much critical acclaim. The film centres on a nice curly-headed boy, Gyuri (Marcell Nagy). When the film opens, he, his family and friends in Budapest are wearing large yellow stars. His father has been ordered to a forced labour camp. Jewish boys on country buses are rounded up. They join the adults, who are told that they are being sent to a labour camp in Germany. In fact, they are taken by train to Auschwitz extermination camp, in Poland. The boy goes on briefly to Buchenwald and, then to Zeitz, a labour camp in Saxony-Anhalt. Much of the film is concerned with Zeitz - barracks lice-ridden and overcrowded, endless parades - reminiscent of POW films - cruelty, a hanging, hunger, humiliation, pain, illness, deaths. Some scenes are truly appalling. Some events are inexplicable, or, at least, unexplained. When Gyuri is liberated, he goes back to heavily-damaged and Russian-occupied Budapest. Surprisingly, he looks back on the camps through rose-tinted spectacles. This is one boy's story, rather than an account of the Holocaust in Hungary, so some background might be helpful. Although the policies of the Regent, Admiral Horthy, were anti-semitic, and there were some dreadful massacres, until Germany had occupied Hungary, in March 1944, he had resisted Hitler's demands to deport the Jews. After the occupation, Eichmann and the SS took charge. The transports to Auschwitz began on May 15 1944, two months later. By this time it had become inevitable that Germany would lose the war - the D-Day landings took place on 6 June - and the true nature of what was happening in Auschwitz had just been revealed. On July 6 1944, under international pressure, Admiral Horthy told the Germans that he had stopped the transports. Killings by right-wing Hungarians continued. In all, about 550,000 Hungarian Jews perished. There are some wonderful films in the Holocaust genre - including Liev Schreiber's "Everything Is Illuminated," released last year. On a small scale, and on a small budget, Schreiber's film poignantly evoked tragic events. "Fateless", with the largest budget ever for an Hungarian film, is not in the same class. It is not particularly well-made. The editing is odd and, in the first half of the film especially, there is much that seems mawkish and even inauthentic. Some characters are stereotypes, some actors seem inappropriate for their roles. But the tale it tells is so powerfully that it is impossible to leave the cinema unmoved. FATELESS (12A) (SORSTALANSAG) Director Lajos Koltai Starring Marcell Nagy 140 minutes Hungarian with subtitles

Dear List, I have just finished transcribing all of the baptism, death, and marriage records for O. Malomsok and Marcalto, Hungary. There are other towns, Gorsony, Farkasd, Jhaszi, and a few others. These towns are in the counties of Gyor and Vesprem. With our buddy Joe on vacation, there are some location errors to clean up but there are over 18000 records. I have put this into an Excel spreadsheet and am willing to share. If anyone would like the file sent to them, please email me privately. Would the person who is researching OLAH please let me know as I have noted the records for that surname. Thanks! Angela

Nickname for Béla [Bela]. Geza At 17:17 2006.05.02.öTuesday, you wrote: >Many years ago I knew a man whose first name was Beci. I am thinking that >Beci was really a nickname. Can anyone tell me whether it is a nickname, >and if >so, what is it a nickname for? > >Thanks! > >Jayne >perllan987@aol.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 2006.05.02.

Several of the links at the Radix Language page do not work. Would the person responsible please fix them? Thank you. Jayne perllan987@aol.com