The New York Tribune Nov. 17, 1922 Count SIGRAY Refused Passport To America Hungarian Police Bar Gates To Husband Of Heiress Budapest -(By the AP) Count Anton SIGRAY, who married the American heiress Harriet DALY, has been refused a passport to the United States by the Hungarian Police. The Count today protested to the National Assembly against the refusal. The case has been referred to the Committee on Immunity of the House. The Police assert that their decision to decline to grant the passport was based on Count SIGRAY's alleged complicity in the last attempt of former King Charles to regain his throne. After SIGRAY was arrested he was released in bail of 1,000,000 kronen pending trial. The police interpret his desire to leave the country as an endeavor to evade the trial. In American money his bail bond amounts to about $400. Countess SIGRAY today laughed at the interpretation of the police. She says the trip to the United States had been arranged long ago.

New York Tribune Aug. 10, 1919 American Women Married To Aliens Lose Property Special Legislation Necessary to Restore Such Estate Under Way American women who married German and Austrian subjects, and thus became enemy aliens will not be able to recover their property seized under the trading with the enemy act by their husbands becoming American citizens, in the opinion of officials of the Alien Property Custodian's office. Specific legislation by Congress will be necessary before any of the property held by the Alien Property Custodian will be returned to its owners, it was said at Mr. GARVAN'S office. "In fact, the property may never be returned to the American women whose marriage to a foreign nobleman made them enemy aliens,". "The peace treaty provides that Congress has the power to enact legislation that will authorized the utilization of enemy property for the payment of American claims against the Central governments. If this is done, the securities formerly owned by American women who married titles will be used in making reparation for the losses sustained by Americans in the war with Germany and Austria." The Countess Laszlo SZECHENYI, formerly Gladys VANDERBILT, and the Countess Anto SIGRAY, who was Harriet DALY, of Butte, Mont., the sister-in-law of former Ambassador GERARD, two of the women affected by the siezures, are living modestly in Switzerland, according to reports. Anita STEWART, of New York, is the Princess BRAGANZA of Hungary, and is now in straitened circumstances in Switzerland. And Nora ISELIN, of New York, the Countess COLLOREDO-MANNSFELD, is now a citizen of Austria-Hungary, and is said to hav gone into trade. These and many other American born heiresses lost their citizenship when they were married to foreign husbands. They were classified as alien enemies as soon as the U.S. entered the war. While no legislation governing the disposal of alien property has yet been suggested to Congress by Alien Property Custodian GARVAN, it is likely that upon ratification of the peace treaty the State Dept. will be asked to furnish Congress with the amount of American claims against Germany and Austria. With these claims as a basis it is thought likely that Congress will pass a law giving the Alien Property Custodian the right to convert the holdings of aliens into reparation funds with which to meet these American claims. Representative La GUARDIA, of New York, last Saturday introduced a resolution in the House providing for the return of all enemy property seized by the government. This measure, it was said recently at Mr. GARVAN'S office, had not been suggested by the Alien Property Custodian.

The Hayti Herald (Hayti, Mo.) July 21, 1921 Immigration Laws Bars Titled Women From Return To U.S. Former American Girls, Now Wives Of European Nobles, Are Liable to Deportation, Like Poor Aliens, When Quotas Of Their Nationalities Become Filled By International News Service New York - One effect of the drastic enforcement of the new immigration law here and at other ports will be to provide a serious obstacle to the "homecoming" plans of several American women who have sacrificed their American citizenship for foreign titles, the Customs official discovered recently. It is within the range of possibility that some of the homesick ones may have to prolong their residences abroad indefinitely, for another year at least. Under the law only 3% of the nationals residing here when the 1910 census was taken may be admitted in any one year hereafter. Immigration officials say the provision will be enforced against the rich and poor immigrants alike, cabin aliens being compelled to remain aboard ship along with their brethren in the steerage until Washington can rule on their admissibility under the quota clause of the law. Arrivals reaching New York or other ports after the quota is filled will be turned back. Several nationalities are already nearing their quota for the year, some having been practically filled already for this month. If any of the expatriated women should ?????? arrive to find the quota for her nationality already filled by unforeseen arrivals at this and other ports there would be nothing for her to do but engage passage back to Europe and wait for another "try" in the future. One of the women with cause to worry under Uncle Sam's tightening restrictions is the Countess Anton SIGRAY, who before her marriage was Miss Harriet DALY, daughter of the late Marcus DALY and heiress to a large part of the fortune which he made in copper. This couple met at the wedding of Count Laszlo SZECHENYI and Miss Gladys VANDERBILT here in 1908 and were married by Ambassador GERARD, who represented the U.S. at Berlin up to the beginning of the war. The Count served in the war as a Lieutenant of the Third Hussars of Germany and was at one time reported to have been taken prisoner of the Russians. In view of severe economic conditions in Germany since the war friends of the Countess would not be surprised to hear of her decision to return home at any time. Another possible victim of the law's operation is the Duchess of Croy, formerly Miss Nancy LEISHMAN, of Pittsburgh, daughter of a former Ambassador to Berlin. They were married Oct. 1913, the Duke being a descendant of the ancient royal house of Hungary. In the eyes of the German law it was a morganatic marriage and the young American woman's title was not officially recognized. A son was born to this couple in Oct. 1914. Still another feminine title holder reported to be casting longing eyes toward native American shores is the Countess Marie di ZOPPOLA, formerly Miss Edith MORTIMER, daughter of the Stanley MORTIMERS and one of the best known beauties of New York, Newuort? and Long Island society. She became the bride of the Count, then an Italian aviator, in June 1919, the ceremony taking place at the home of the brides parents at Rosyln, L. I. Miss MORTIMER, it will be remembered, was indicted on a charge of manslaughter after an automobile she was driving ran down and killed a man, but the indictment was dismissed. Owing to the publicity of the case the couple kept their wedding place a secret until the last minute. The Countess De LASTEYIE, formerly Miss Constance Whitney WARREN, daughter of Mrs. George Henry WARREN, of this city, is still another former American woman who has cause to be interested in the new immigration ban. She is now living in Paris. She was married to the Count in 1912 at the Warren home, No. 924 Fifth Avenue. The Count's family was one of the most distinguished of French nobility. True, any of these women would be permitted merely to visit their home country at any time they chose. They might even prolong the "visits" indefinitely. If the immigration officers have reason to suspect any of these "visits," however, they are authorized to require the "visitor" to put up a bond which would be liable to forfeiture and the giver subject to deportation at the expiration of six months.

I'll fwd what I find Jay. cheryl -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jamene Farrell" <jamene.farrell@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:50 AM To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Count Anton SIGRAY and Harriet Holmes DALY 1910 > I'd like to know more about this marriage: did it last? did they have any > children? where is this family today? > the problem with genealogy is that you find one little tidbit and then you > want > more...... > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 8:54:15 PM > Subject: [HUNGARY] Count Anton SIGRAY and Harriet Holmes DALY 1910 > > The Salt Lake Herald-Republican Utah March 27, 1910 > > More American Dollars Go To Gild Shabby Coronet > Of Fortune-Hunting Noble Foreigner > > New York - More American dollars will be poured into the depleted coffers > of > European > nobility on Tuesday next, when Miss Harriet DALY, the beautiful and > accomplished > daughter of the late copper king, Marcus DALY, will be married to Count > Anton > SIGRAY, > head of the ancient Hungarian family of that name, at her home on Fifth > Avenue. > > Incidentally, the affair will mark the beginning of a series of > fashionable > weddings that > are to be celebrated during the spring season, including that of Margaret > GOULD > and > Anthony DREXEL, Jr. > > Miss DALY'S wedding, however, will be a comparatively quiet affair, > despite the > attendance of New York's "most select," and several representatives of the > Hungarian > nobility. On account of the difference in religion (Miss Daly being a > Protestant and her > fiancee a Catholic), the customary church ceremony with its attendant > brilliance, will be > supplanted by a quiet but dignified home wedding, which will take place at > the > Daly > mansion, No. 735 Fifth Avenue. Miss Daly has dispensed with bridesmaids, > but > the > > count will be attended by the Marquis PALLAVINCI. > > Result of a Romance > > The marriage of this beautiful heiress to the Hungarian nobleman is the > culmination > of a romance which began two years ago at the wedding of Count SZECHENYI > and > Miss Gladys VANDERBILT. On this occasion Count SIGRAY, who is a distant > cousin > of Count SZECHENYI, acted as his best man. Possessing an excellent > physique, > with > a fair complexion and steel gray eyes, he made a striking picture in his > brilliant uniform > trimmed with lace and gold, and far outshone the groom. During the > reception at > the > Vanderbilt mansion, following the ceremony, he met Miss Daly, and paid her > marked > attention. For two weeks he remained in New York and devoted most of his > time > to > the beautiful heiress during this period. The following summer he met her > abroad and > renewed his attentions, and last summer they again met at the wedding of > Miss > Anita > Stewart to the Prince de BRAGANZA, in Scotland. > > Count Anton is the head of one of the oldest and wealthiest families in > Hungary, > although, as the count himself admits, his income is small when compared > with > American standards. He is a large landowner, and, as such, is a member of > the > House of Magnates. His title dates back to 1780, his ancestors being > among the > nobles who helped Empress Maria THERESA preserve her throne. Both his > parents > are dead, but he has two older sisters living; one being the Marquise San > MAYANO, > who married an Italian and lives in Rome, and the other the Baroness > SCHELL, who > lives in Hungary. > > As the count's wife, Miss Daly will enjoy the full privileges of her rank, > and > will be > entitled to entrance at the Budapest court, but not to that of Vienna, > where the > > count alone will be welcome. > > Marries Wealthy Girl > > On the other hand, the count is marrying one of the wealthiest girls in > the > country. > Miss Daly is about 24 years old, being the youngest child of the famous > miner. > Her > share of her father's estate alone is estimated at $2,500,000. She is a > tall, > striking > brunette, and a talented musician. > > That Count Sigray resents the intimation that he is marrying Miss Daly for > her > fortune, is indicated in an interview which he gave out on his recent > arrival in > this > country. "It's decidedly hard for a foreigner, no matter how praiseworthy > his > motives > or exalted his station, to set sail after an American girl," said the > count, who > speaks > perfect english. "Immediately the cry of fortune hunting foreigner is > raised. > It is a > tribute to the beauty and brain of the American girl that foreigners are > willing > to risk > even this danger to win her. In this point alone lies one of the most > infallible proofs > that the American girl is the queen of women the world over." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I'd like to know more about this marriage: did it last? did they have any children? where is this family today? the problem with genealogy is that you find one little tidbit and then you want more...... ________________________________ From: Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> To: hungary@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 8:54:15 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Count Anton SIGRAY and Harriet Holmes DALY 1910 The Salt Lake Herald-Republican Utah March 27, 1910 More American Dollars Go To Gild Shabby Coronet Of Fortune-Hunting Noble Foreigner New York - More American dollars will be poured into the depleted coffers of European nobility on Tuesday next, when Miss Harriet DALY, the beautiful and accomplished daughter of the late copper king, Marcus DALY, will be married to Count Anton SIGRAY, head of the ancient Hungarian family of that name, at her home on Fifth Avenue. Incidentally, the affair will mark the beginning of a series of fashionable weddings that are to be celebrated during the spring season, including that of Margaret GOULD and Anthony DREXEL, Jr. Miss DALY'S wedding, however, will be a comparatively quiet affair, despite the attendance of New York's "most select," and several representatives of the Hungarian nobility. On account of the difference in religion (Miss Daly being a Protestant and her fiancee a Catholic), the customary church ceremony with its attendant brilliance, will be supplanted by a quiet but dignified home wedding, which will take place at the Daly mansion, No. 735 Fifth Avenue. Miss Daly has dispensed with bridesmaids, but the count will be attended by the Marquis PALLAVINCI. Result of a Romance The marriage of this beautiful heiress to the Hungarian nobleman is the culmination of a romance which began two years ago at the wedding of Count SZECHENYI and Miss Gladys VANDERBILT. On this occasion Count SIGRAY, who is a distant cousin of Count SZECHENYI, acted as his best man. Possessing an excellent physique, with a fair complexion and steel gray eyes, he made a striking picture in his brilliant uniform trimmed with lace and gold, and far outshone the groom. During the reception at the Vanderbilt mansion, following the ceremony, he met Miss Daly, and paid her marked attention. For two weeks he remained in New York and devoted most of his time to the beautiful heiress during this period. The following summer he met her abroad and renewed his attentions, and last summer they again met at the wedding of Miss Anita Stewart to the Prince de BRAGANZA, in Scotland. Count Anton is the head of one of the oldest and wealthiest families in Hungary, although, as the count himself admits, his income is small when compared with American standards. He is a large landowner, and, as such, is a member of the House of Magnates. His title dates back to 1780, his ancestors being among the nobles who helped Empress Maria THERESA preserve her throne. Both his parents are dead, but he has two older sisters living; one being the Marquise San MAYANO, who married an Italian and lives in Rome, and the other the Baroness SCHELL, who lives in Hungary. As the count's wife, Miss Daly will enjoy the full privileges of her rank, and will be entitled to entrance at the Budapest court, but not to that of Vienna, where the count alone will be welcome. Marries Wealthy Girl On the other hand, the count is marrying one of the wealthiest girls in the country. Miss Daly is about 24 years old, being the youngest child of the famous miner. Her share of her father's estate alone is estimated at $2,500,000. She is a tall, striking brunette, and a talented musician. That Count Sigray resents the intimation that he is marrying Miss Daly for her fortune, is indicated in an interview which he gave out on his recent arrival in this country. "It's decidedly hard for a foreigner, no matter how praiseworthy his motives or exalted his station, to set sail after an American girl," said the count, who speaks perfect english. "Immediately the cry of fortune hunting foreigner is raised. It is a tribute to the beauty and brain of the American girl that foreigners are willing to risk even this danger to win her. In this point alone lies one of the most infallible proofs that the American girl is the queen of women the world over." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nick, The Almasy that I found was grandfather of an Almasy man I met in Richmond, Va. a few years ago. He has designation of Count 2. His uncle was the Count Almasy portrayed in the Movie called "The English Patient". So far, I haven't found a link too them. There are about 3 castles in their family in Hungary however. I have a copy of his family tree but I'm not on it but, there is a lot of names I recognized from history. Here's a result that Ifound doing a search online. > v. Almássy v. Zsadány et Török-Szentmiklós Asch v. u. zu Achenrain u. Lichtenturn Almasy ... < the man I met is named Miklos Almasy. He is listed on a website called "Hungarians Around The World". I haven't looked at it for several years however. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Nick M. Gombash <nickmgombash@yahoo.com>wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Your Almasy's were nobles? Which nobles were they? I'm connected to a lot > of the older nobility of Hungary.. we might be cousins. > > Nick > > --- On Thu, 7/15/10, Dan Almashy <vachevyman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Dan Almashy <vachevyman@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Book > > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 6:20 PM > > I found an online version for > > researching nobility. Found one of my Almasy > > on it. Here's the link. > > > http://www.coresno.com/literatur/146-almanach-cesky/1957-almanach-cesky.html > > > > Dan Almashy > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Nick M. Gombash <nickmgombash@yahoo.com > >wrote: > > > > > Les, > > > > > > Do they have Hungarian related data in Adels Almanach? > > I'm quite obsessed > > > with Hungarian nobility. :) > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/15/10, Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> > > > > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Book > > > > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > > > > Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 5:33 PM > > > > Les, > > > > > > > > Ancestry has it on their site > > > > > > > > Adels-Almanach 1882 Stories, > > Memories > > > > and Histories > > > > > > > > The records are in German. > > > > > > > > cheryl > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > From: "Laszlo (Les) Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:57 PM > > > > To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> > > > > Subject: [HUNGARY] Book > > > > > > > > > Hello fellow listers, I am looking for a > > book called > > > > Adels Almanach. When > > > > > I > > > > > search Amazon Germany says book is not > > available. Does > > > > anybody know if it > > > > > is > > > > > available library loan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email to > > > > > > > > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email to > > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the > > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > All The Best, > > Dan > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- All The Best, Dan

The Salt Lake Herald-Republican Utah March 27, 1910 More American Dollars Go To Gild Shabby Coronet Of Fortune-Hunting Noble Foreigner New York - More American dollars will be poured into the depleted coffers of European nobility on Tuesday next, when Miss Harriet DALY, the beautiful and accomplished daughter of the late copper king, Marcus DALY, will be married to Count Anton SIGRAY, head of the ancient Hungarian family of that name, at her home on Fifth Avenue. Incidentally, the affair will mark the beginning of a series of fashionable weddings that are to be celebrated during the spring season, including that of Margaret GOULD and Anthony DREXEL, Jr. Miss DALY'S wedding, however, will be a comparatively quiet affair, despite the attendance of New York's "most select," and several representatives of the Hungarian nobility. On account of the difference in religion (Miss Daly being a Protestant and her fiancee a Catholic), the customary church ceremony with its attendant brilliance, will be supplanted by a quiet but dignified home wedding, which will take place at the Daly mansion, No. 735 Fifth Avenue. Miss Daly has dispensed with bridesmaids, but the count will be attended by the Marquis PALLAVINCI. Result of a Romance The marriage of this beautiful heiress to the Hungarian nobleman is the culmination of a romance which began two years ago at the wedding of Count SZECHENYI and Miss Gladys VANDERBILT. On this occasion Count SIGRAY, who is a distant cousin of Count SZECHENYI, acted as his best man. Possessing an excellent physique, with a fair complexion and steel gray eyes, he made a striking picture in his brilliant uniform trimmed with lace and gold, and far outshone the groom. During the reception at the Vanderbilt mansion, following the ceremony, he met Miss Daly, and paid her marked attention. For two weeks he remained in New York and devoted most of his time to the beautiful heiress during this period. The following summer he met her abroad and renewed his attentions, and last summer they again met at the wedding of Miss Anita Stewart to the Prince de BRAGANZA, in Scotland. Count Anton is the head of one of the oldest and wealthiest families in Hungary, although, as the count himself admits, his income is small when compared with American standards. He is a large landowner, and, as such, is a member of the House of Magnates. His title dates back to 1780, his ancestors being among the nobles who helped Empress Maria THERESA preserve her throne. Both his parents are dead, but he has two older sisters living; one being the Marquise San MAYANO, who married an Italian and lives in Rome, and the other the Baroness SCHELL, who lives in Hungary. As the count's wife, Miss Daly will enjoy the full privileges of her rank, and will be entitled to entrance at the Budapest court, but not to that of Vienna, where the count alone will be welcome. Marries Wealthy Girl On the other hand, the count is marrying one of the wealthiest girls in the country. Miss Daly is about 24 years old, being the youngest child of the famous miner. Her share of her father's estate alone is estimated at $2,500,000. She is a tall, striking brunette, and a talented musician. That Count Sigray resents the intimation that he is marrying Miss Daly for her fortune, is indicated in an interview which he gave out on his recent arrival in this country. "It's decidedly hard for a foreigner, no matter how praiseworthy his motives or exalted his station, to set sail after an American girl," said the count, who speaks perfect english. "Immediately the cry of fortune hunting foreigner is raised. It is a tribute to the beauty and brain of the American girl that foreigners are willing to risk even this danger to win her. In this point alone lies one of the most infallible proofs that the American girl is the queen of women the world over."

I found an online version for researching nobility. Found one of my Almasy on it. Here's the link. http://www.coresno.com/literatur/146-almanach-cesky/1957-almanach-cesky.html Dan Almashy On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Nick M. Gombash <nickmgombash@yahoo.com>wrote: > Les, > > Do they have Hungarian related data in Adels Almanach? I'm quite obsessed > with Hungarian nobility. :) > > Nick > > --- On Thu, 7/15/10, Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> wrote: > > > From: Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> > > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Book > > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 5:33 PM > > Les, > > > > Ancestry has it on their site > > > > Adels-Almanach 1882 Stories, Memories > > and Histories > > > > The records are in German. > > > > cheryl > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Laszlo (Les) Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:57 PM > > To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [HUNGARY] Book > > > > > Hello fellow listers, I am looking for a book called > > Adels Almanach. When > > > I > > > search Amazon Germany says book is not available. Does > > anybody know if it > > > is > > > available library loan? > > > > > > > > > > > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- All The Best, Dan

The San Francisco Call Nov. 27, 1910 Van and Von It is a common mistake of Americans to think that the predicate "Van" before a Dutch name signifies nobility. In the low countries-that is, in the Kingdoms of the Netherlands and Belgium - "Van" has no particular meaning. Names with "Van" are to be read on shops, as well as on the doors of the most aristocratic mansions. The humblest persons have it, as we as the most refined. On the other hand, a great number of the very oldest families are without it. In Germany "Von" means noble, and all persons belonging to the nobility have "Von" before their family names, without any exception. Persons who do not belong to the nobility can not put "Von" before their names, as they have no right to do so, and would be found out directly if they assumed it, and make themselves ridiculous. But, in case of a man being knighted for some reason or other, he has the right to put "Von" before his family name. For instance, when Alexander HUMBOLDT was knighted he became Alexander Von Humbolt, and all his descendants, male and femal, take the prefix.

Les, Ancestry has it on their site Adels-Almanach 1882 Stories, Memories and Histories The records are in German. cheryl -------------------------------------------------- From: "Laszlo (Les) Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:57 PM To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Book > Hello fellow listers, I am looking for a book called Adels Almanach. When > I > search Amazon Germany says book is not available. Does anybody know if it > is > available library loan? > > > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

the alexander SOMOGYI who died in colorado in1983 probably isn't your guy. i pulled the obit this morning while in denver--this guy had wife helen, married in NJ in 1914, moved to colorado in 1918, notes a surviving daughter named dorothy. rocky mtn news, page 108, 18 oct 1983. paul daraghy parker, colorado

Hi Dan, Your Almasy's were nobles? Which nobles were they? I'm connected to a lot of the older nobility of Hungary.. we might be cousins. Nick --- On Thu, 7/15/10, Dan Almashy <vachevyman@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Dan Almashy <vachevyman@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Book > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 6:20 PM > I found an online version for > researching nobility. Found one of my Almasy > on it. Here's the link. > http://www.coresno.com/literatur/146-almanach-cesky/1957-almanach-cesky.html > > Dan Almashy > > > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Nick M. Gombash <nickmgombash@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > Les, > > > > Do they have Hungarian related data in Adels Almanach? > I'm quite obsessed > > with Hungarian nobility. :) > > > > Nick > > > > --- On Thu, 7/15/10, Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> > wrote: > > > > > From: Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> > > > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Book > > > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 5:33 PM > > > Les, > > > > > > Ancestry has it on their site > > > > > > Adels-Almanach 1882      Stories, > Memories > > > and Histories > > > > > > The records are in German. > > > > > > cheryl > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From: "Laszlo (Les) Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:57 PM > > > To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> > > > Subject: [HUNGARY] Book > > > > > > > Hello fellow listers, I am looking for a > book called > > > Adels Almanach. When > > > > I > > > > search Amazon Germany says book is not > available. Does > > > anybody know if it > > > > is > > > > available library loan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > > > > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > All The Best, >      Dan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Les, Do they have Hungarian related data in Adels Almanach? I'm quite obsessed with Hungarian nobility. :) Nick --- On Thu, 7/15/10, Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> wrote: > From: Cheryl Wenberg <cherlock@cheqnet.net> > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Book > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 5:33 PM > Les, > > Ancestry has it on their site > > Adels-Almanach 1882      Stories, Memories > and Histories > > The records are in German. > > cheryl > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Laszlo (Les) Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:57 PM > To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [HUNGARY] Book > > > Hello fellow listers, I am looking for a book called > Adels Almanach. When > > I > > search Amazon Germany says book is not available. Does > anybody know if it > > is > > available library loan? > > > > > > > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hello fellow listers, I am looking for a book called Adels Almanach. When I search Amazon Germany says book is not available. Does anybody know if it is available library loan? Laszlo (Les) Josa

My ancestors, Mária Hegyi Jandó and Velma Jandó arrived aboard the ship LaLorraine from LeHavre, France on 28 Aug 1903. Also, Vince Jandó arrived aboard the ship Caroline, also from LeHavre, France, on 16 May 1909. Not as exciting of a story but precious none the less! ;) Angela

Thanks, Joe! Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:05:56 -0400 From: Joseph J Jarfas <jjarfas@verizon.net> Subject: [HUNGARY] Free Austrian databank ... To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4C3C0244.5080702@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi all, a friend of mine let me know about this free databank: http://www.familia-austria.at/oeffentlich_daten.php which - beside other data - also lists deaths from the Wiener Zeitung, of those who were 'not living there'. Pretty big files, but thousands of names, even from the US. Scan them page by page. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net

Hi all, a friend of mine let me know about this free databank: http://www.familia-austria.at/oeffentlich_daten.php which - beside other data - also lists deaths from the Wiener Zeitung, of those who were 'not living there'. Pretty big files, but thousands of names, even from the US. Scan them page by page. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net

Joe,   Thank you for responding. The obit for Margaret Somogyi is not the right one. She might be the mother of a lady who I wrote to in Cincinnati who died in 2002. She is Elizabeth Somogyi and her father Joseph Somogyi. I thought he was Frank Somogyi's younger son Joseph. They were sorry that they could not help me but said that under the last address that I have from Frank Somogyi, 1817 Sundale Ave, North College Hill Cincinnati, OH 45239, there is another owner whose name she found under the Hamilton County Records.   I will try to scan the photos I have and send them to you. They are somewhere else where I will be after the 27 July. I will try to e-mail them to you after that date. I will try to see what other info I may dig up, although I do not think I will find much more.   The computer session is again anding. I will write again. I thank you very much for your work.   Kind regards from   Alice Svojanovsky  --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Joseph J Jarfas <jjarfas@verizon.net> wrote: From: Joseph J Jarfas <jjarfas@verizon.net> Subject: That's hard ... To: "Alice Svojanovsky" <zrenjanin1@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sunday, 11 July, 2010, 3:46 Alice, if you don't have a computer at home! :-( But we'll have to do, what we have to do. Try to get as many dates as possible for births, marriages, etc.; also if you know wife's (maiden), children's names, will surely help. If you have any old letters, pictures (with writing on the back) could also help (if you can scan and attach them to an E-mail [but only to me; the Hungary list won't take attachments]). I selected the below obituary, because I found a Barbara Somogyi, b 01 Apr 1892, d Aug 1971 in Cincinnati, Hamilton, OH; suspect she was wife of Alex. No obit for Barbara - so far - but the two might have been related. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net Obituaries                           The Cincinnati Enquirer and Community Press Originally published on 7/28/2002 SOMOGYI, Margaret SOMOGYI Margaret "Maggie'' Sarah (nee Longyear), Beloved wife of Joseph E. Somogyi. Dearest mother of Elizabeth Kalmar Somogyi Mahlin of Columbus, OH and Matthew Joseph Somogyi of Cincinnati, OH. Daughter of the late Robert R. Longyear and Helen E. Longyear-O'Brien. Dear sister of Jeremy Longyear of Portland, ME, Mrs. Barbara Mayo of Waterville, ME, Mrs. Emily Doan of Washington, NC, Mrs. Susannah Sprague of Portland, ME, Mark O'Brien of Brookline, MA, Mrs. Isabel Besse of Falmouth, MA, Mrs. Caroline Webber of Teaticket, MA, Daniel Longyear of St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands and the late Jonathan Longyear and Ellis O'Brien. Passed on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 after a long illness at age 52 years. Resident of Cincinnati. Relatives and friends are invited to attend graveside services Saturday, August 3, 2002 at Spring Grove Cemetery, 4521 Spring Grove Ave. (Winton Place) at 1 P.M. Please assemble at the main entrance of the cemetery by 12:45 P.M. Memorial services will immediatel follow at the Beechwood Home, in the Beech Room, 2140 Pogue Ave., Cincinnati, OH 45208 (O'Bryonville) at 2:30 P.M. Memorials if so desired, may be directed to the Multiple Sclerosis Society. Miller-Busse & Borgmann Funeral Home serving the family. www.busseborgmann.com

I got married in St Stevens I lived right around the corner and my son was baptised there ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamene Farrell" <jamene.farrell@yahoo.com> To: <kchurilla@aol.com>; <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] NY >I just found out that it is St. Stephen's church at 414 East 82nd Street. >My > friend said to call the church. > The Hungarian House is somewhere around West 85th, I think. (maybe East?) > I > don't know New York at all. > There might be a Hungarian Calvin Reformed Church in New York, and they > might > help, too. Good luck. > Let me know how you make out. Sometimes Hungarians discriminate against us > American born who don't know the language. > > Jay Farrell > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "kchurilla@aol.com" <kchurilla@aol.com> > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 2:54:12 PM > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] NY > > Thanks! I'll look into it! Thanks again ;) > ------Original Message------ > From: Jamene Farrell > Sender: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com > To: Hungary > ReplyTo: hungary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] NY > Sent: Jul 11, 2010 2:52 PM > > I thought the Hungarian House in NYC had classes? If not, why don't you > request > that they look into it? or, the Catholic Hungarian church in NYC might > start one > > if you request.....that's how things get started. You could always ask > them to > put something in the church bulletin, and same with the Hungarian House. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List: This is a wonderful and informative site. Keep all the news coming! My grandfather came to America on the Cunard Ship Carpathia in March 29,1912. After my grandfather arrived in NY Ellis Island,the Carpathia was returning to Fiume for more immigrants and received the SOS message. This ship was one of the first ships that arrived to pick up the surviving passengers. So this our immigrant ship, the Carpathia helped with rescue of Titanic passengers and was the FIRST ship to arrive. I think I have my facts correct and I'm sure others could add additional information about that fateful day. Here is the web site to read about the Carpathia's efforts. http://www.titanic-titanic.com/carpathia.shtml A few other notes: There are photos of the Carpathia in both of these articles. Arrival of Carpathia in New York Carpathia docked at Pier 54 in New York following the rescue.On 18 April[1], Carpathia docked at Pier 54 at Little West 12th Street in New York with the survivors. She arrived at night and was greeted by thousands of people. Titanic had been headed for 20th Street. Carpathia dropped off the empty Titanic lifeboats at Pier 59, as property of the White Star Line, before unloading the survivors at Pier 54. Both piers were part of the Chelsea Piers built to handle luxury liners of the day. I thought this was interesting to me. Hope you find it of interest, too. Rose -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jamene Farrell Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:43 AM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] newspaper articles, Cunard Ship Carpathia sailing from Fiume 1906 wouldn't it be something if one of us ever discovered our immigrant grandparents to have sailed over on the same ship together? wow! Jay Farrell ________________________________ From: Dusty Fletcher <unctarheel77@bellsouth.net> To: hungary@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 10:54:32 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] newspaper articles, Cunard Ship Carpathia sailing from Fiume 1906 Cheryl, The newspaper articles you've furnished have been a great window into the past! Thank you for your efforts in sharing these with us. I, too, would be greatly interested in info/photos of Carpathia passengers from the same year, 1906. My grandfather, along with his sister, brother and stepmother all sailed from Fiume aboard the Carpathia, arriving at Ellis Island 24 July. Dusty ------------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message