The Chronicle Telegram Sept. 4, 2002 Joseph "Kidd" SZAKAL, 94, Played Semi-Pro Baseball Joseph "Kidd" SZAKAL, 94, of Elyria Township, died Monday at his home while under the care of New Life Hospice, following a short illness. Born in Lorain, he had been a resident of Elyria Township since 1937. He retired in 1973 after 44 years service from US Steel Lorain Works, where he worked as a high mill plugger in the 3 Seamless Pipe Mill Dept. Mr. SZAKAL was a member of St. Ladislau Catholic Church in Lorain and the church's former Holy Name Society, where he received a Bronze Medallion Circle Award from the Diocese of Cleveland. He was also a member of St. Lad's Sick Benefit Society, Hungarian Friends Society and United Steel Workers Union Local 1104. He enjoyed hunting, fishing and gardening and was an avid bowler on Leagues at Saxon Club, Croatian Club and Rebman's Recreation. Mr. SZAKAL had a successful career playing baseball with teams equivalent to the minor leagues that started in 1924 and continued through the late 1930's. Referred to as hurler, he was well known for his fastball. He was once scouted by Walter Johnson of the Cleveland Indians and played for several different teams in the area, including Pennzoll, Aztec Indians, Hungarian Democrats, Verhovai, Sandrew, Grove Avenue Merchants and Dusky Brothers. A highlight of his baseball career was the day he pitched against the Toledo Mud Hens and won. Survivors: Son: Joseph J. of Elyria Daughter: Jeno "Illona" KISS of Amherst Sister: Julia KEREKES He was preceded in death by: Wife: Helen (nee PUMMER) wife of 50 years in 1987 Parents: Mihaly "Michael" and Anna (nee SPISAK) Step-daughter" Eleanora RUPP in 1989 Grandson: Eugene KISS in 1997 Brothers: Dash, Steve, Michael and John SAKAL Sister: Irene SAKACH Dovin Funeral Home, Lorain. Church services officiated by Rev. Patrick Shields Burial in the Calvary Cemetery, Lorain

Hi list, It is hot all over! European countries are feeling it as well. Julie B in HOT NC http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0717/1224274900776.html

The Morning Herald Uniontown, Penn. Jan. 2, 1973 LAKATOSH, John - Age 85 years of 142 N. Penn St., Connellsville, died Sunday Dec. 31 at home. He was born Feb. 5, 1887 in Austria-Hungary the son of the late George and Anna YANOSKO LAKATOSH. He was a retired coal miner and a member of St. Stephen's G.C. Church of Leisenring, the Holy Name Society, a life member of the Slovak Club, the Pennsylvania Slovak Union No. 16. Survivors: Wife: Anna GYACSOK? LAKATOSH Daughters: Miss Mary LAKATOSH at home Mrs. John (Ann) TAKAC of Uniontown He was preceded in death by a daughter, Betty. Paul G. Fink Funeral home, Connellsville. Requiem High Mass in St. Stephen's with Rev. Fr. Marko Badovinao as celebrant. Internment in St. Stephen's cemetery

The Hammond Times Indiana Jan. 11, 1952 John SAKAL Funeral services for John SAKAL, 67, of 2028 Davidson Pl., Whiting, who died Wednesday night at his home after a long illness, will be held Monday in the Kosior funeral home and at the First Hungarian Reformed Church with Rev. Joseph Malasics officiating. Burial in the St. John Cemetery. SAKAL was an annuitant of the Sinclair Refining Co., and a member of the American Sick Benefit and Life Ins. Assn. Survivors: Sons: John, Alex, Joseph, all of Whiting Lewis in the US Air Force stationed in Iceland Daughters: Mrs. Robert GRAAN of Chicago Mrs. Frank WARREN, Jeanette, both of Whiting Brothers: Michael in Oklahoma Lewis in Pennsylvania Sisters: Mrs. Steve SADVARI Mrs. Frank THOMASBERGER in Pennsylvania

Hello Paul,   Thank you very much for responding. You are right. Alexander Somogyi lived in ~Hamilton Cincinnati Ohio. His wife's name was Barbara.They had a son Alexander. Thank you for your time and effort. Kind regards from   Alice Svojanovsky   --- On Fri, 16/7/10, Paul Daraghy <daraghy@gmail.com> wrote: From: Paul Daraghy <daraghy@gmail.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Lorain, Ohio International Parade To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 0:27 the alexander SOMOGYI who died in colorado in1983 probably isn't your guy. i pulled the obit this morning while in denver--this guy had wife helen, married in NJ in 1914, moved to colorado in 1918, notes a surviving daughter named dorothy.  rocky mtn news, page 108, 18 oct 1983. paul daraghy parker, colorado ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Chronicle Telegram Elyria, Ohio Aug. 14, 1962 Lorain - Mrs. Esther SAKAL, 69, of 2334 East 30th St., died yesterday in St. Josephs hospital after a short illness. She was born in Hungary Dec. 25, 1892 and came to Lorain at the age of 14. Mrs. SAKAL was employed at the General Industries Co., Elyria, for five years and later by the sanitation department of the National Tube Division for 15 years. She retired four years ago. She was a member of the Hungarian United Church of Christ, the Ladies Circle, the Senior Ladies Guild and the Sick Benefit Society of the church. Survivors: Sons: Joseph and Alex, both of Elyria Daughters: Mrs. Frank TOMSCO, Oberlin Mrs. Wm. WHITTIKER of Lorain Mrs. Harold WILKIN of Detroit Bodzash Funeral Home. Services in her church with Rev. Valentine A. Toth officiating. Elmwood cemetery

The Chronicle Telegram Elyria, Ohio Jan. 3, 1972 Mrs. Louis SAKAL Mrs. Esther SAKAL, 88, of Lorain, died Saturday at the Shields Nursing Clinic in Lorain, following a lengthy illness. Mrs. SAKAL had formerly made her home with her daughter, Mrs. George (Margaret) NEMETH, 2620 Broadway, Lorain. A native of Hungary, Mrs. SAKAL came to the US in 1900 and had been a Lorain resident for the past 71 years. She was a member of the Hungarian Reformed Church of Lorain, the Hungarian Reformed Sick Benefit Society and the Hungarian Reformed Federation. Survivors: Sons: Julius MOLNAR of Lorain Louis SAKAL of Torrence, Calif. Daughters: Mrs. NEMETH Mrs. Lewis (Bertha) BALAS of Anaheim, Calif. Half-sister: Mrs. Vincent SIRBECK of Columbus 12 grandchildren and 29 ggrandchildren Her husband, Louis, died in 1957 Emil Dovala Funeral Home, Lorain. Memorial service in the funeral home with Rev. Nicholas Novak officiating. Burial in Elmwood cemetery.

The Chronicle Telegram Elyria, Ohio Feb. 17, 1994 Joseph SAKAL, Former Elyria Elk Of The Year Joseph P. SAKAL, 82, of Elyria died Wednesday at EMH Regional Medical center after being ill for 10 months. Born in Lorain, he attended Lorain schools. He moved to Elyria 60 years ago. For 45 years, Mr. SAKAL worked at the No. 3 Seamless Mill at U.S. Steel Lorain Works, retiring in 1974. He was a member of the Magyar United Church of Christ in Elyria. He also was a member of the Elyria Elks Lodge No. 465, where he was a former Elk of the year. He enjoyed fishing, bowling, cooking and gardening. Survivors: Wife: Helen (nee LENGEL/LENGYEL) wife of 61 years Sons: Edwin E. of Elyria and Joseph D. of Lorain Brother: Alex of Elyria Sister: Eleanor WHITAKER of Lorain He was preceded in death by a grandson, Joseph SAKAL and sisters, Elizabeth, Irene and Margaret. Dicken Funeral home, Elyria. Services Saturday at the Magyar United Church of Christ in Elyria. Rev. Wm. E. Feldt will officiate. Burial in the Ridge Hill Memorial Park in Amherst Township.

Cheryl, You've done it again; i.e., given us these old newspaper articles that lead to further questions requiring much enjoyed research. In a previous newspaper regarding Countess Anton SIGRAY, who before her marriage was Miss Harriet DALY, it was noted that Austria did not recognize her title. I thought perhaps because the marriage may not have been a Catholic ceremony. Now this 1921 article clears that all up. I have not dealt in nobility and was unfamiliar with the term morganatic marriage. In checking the dictionary it referred to a "morning gift" which left a question. Further checking said a morning gift is also called a dowry. Knowing a little bit of German might have given me the answer earlier. Guten morgen....meaning Good morning.....etc, etc. WEBSTER - Morganatic Etymology: New Latin matrimonium ad morganaticam, literally, marriage with morning gift Date: circa 1741 : of, relating to, or being a marriage between a member of a royal or noble family and a person of inferior rank in which the rank of the inferior partner remains unchanged and the children of the marriage do not succeed to the titles, fiefs, or entailed property of the parent of higher rank BRITANNICA: Morganatic legally valid marriage between a male member of a sovereign, princely, or noble house and a woman of lesser birth or rank, with the provision that she shall not thereby accede to his rank and that the children of the marriage shall not succeed to their father’s hereditary dignities, fiefs, and entailed property. The name is derived from the medieval Latin matrimonium ad morganaticum, variously interpreted as meaning “marriage on the morning gift” (from German Morgengabe), with the implication that this morning gift, or dowry, was all that the bride could expect; or “restricted marriage” (Gothic maurjan, “ restrain”); or simply “morning marriage,” celebrated quietly at an early hour. Essentially a German institution, it was adopted by some dynasties outside Germany but not by those of France or England. The practice ensues from the German notion of Ebenbürtigkeit, or Gleichbürtigkeit (evenness or equality of birth), which in the European Middle Ages had a widespread application in German law. It required that parties to many sorts of transaction be of the same standing or estate, but it could not be an impediment to marriage in the law of the church. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Just a comment, never thought of a dowry in terms of a male conferring his title to the bride-to-be. Marika

The Chronicle Telegram Elyria, Ohio June 29, 1969 Steve (LENGYEL) LENGEL, 76, of 41850 Earlene Dr., died in Elyria Memorial hospital yesterday after a short illness. Born in Hungary on April 1, 1893, Mr. LENGEL had been a resident of Elyria for 50 years. A retired employee of the Republic Steel Corp., he was a member of the Magyar United church of Christ and the Woodmen of the World Lodge. Survivors: Wife: Julia, to whom he had been married 55 years Son: Steve Daughters: Mrs. Joseph (Helen) SAKAL Mrs. Charles (Elsie) SWEET, all of Elyria Brother: Nicholas of Lorain Bittner De Carlo Funeral Home. Arrangements incomplete.

Les, Adels-Almanach 1882 is available for purchase thru Abe Books, but very pricey. Sources are in Germany. I bought a book years ago from Germany ($60.00) by sending cash and wasn't disappointed. My contact was a professor. _http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=44&imagefield.y= 10&sortby=2&tn=Adels-Almanach+1882_ (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=44&imagefield.y=10&sortby=2&tn=Adels-Almanach+1882) Unfortunately some libraries have stopped offering Inter Library Loans due to costs involved. Some of the larger libraries may have it thru ILL, such as Los Angeles. Check with your home library and mention Los Angeles.. Good luck in finding one. Marika

Thank you Cheryl but I do not belong to Ancestry. I just finished a 14 day trial and that was not available on the free trial. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Wenberg Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:34 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Book Les, Ancestry has it on their site Adels-Almanach 1882 Stories, Memories and Histories The records are in German. cheryl -------------------------------------------------- From: "Laszlo (Les) Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:57 PM To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Book > Hello fellow listers, I am looking for a book called Adels Almanach. When > I > search Amazon Germany says book is not available. Does anybody know if it > is > available library loan? > > > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I THANK whomever it was that suggested to contact the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh for obituary lookups. They found 3 of my 5. I expected to see their deceased parents names listed as we do here in Ohio. To get a death certificate on the approximately 20 people would be a bit expensive at $20.00 a person. Is there another way to find them? Thank You in advance, Ilona

I MIGHT be able to find some......but can't promise that I can find them all. Send me the names....and dod's cheryl -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ilona" <Ilona2@centurytel.net> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:15 PM To: "Hungary Rootsweb.Com" <hungary-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] research > I THANK whomever it was that suggested to contact the Carnegie Library > of Pittsburgh > for obituary lookups. They found 3 of my 5. > I expected to see their deceased parents names listed as we do here in > Ohio. To get a > death certificate on the approximately 20 people would be a bit expensive > at $20.00 a person. Is there another way to find them? > Thank You in advance, > Ilona > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

-------------------------------------------------- From: "Ilona" <Ilona2@centurytel.net> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:15 PM To: "Hungary Rootsweb.Com" <hungary-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] research > I THANK whomever it was that suggested to contact the Carnegie Library > of Pittsburgh > for obituary lookups. They found 3 of my 5. > I expected to see their deceased parents names listed as we do here in > Ohio. To get a > death certificate on the approximately 20 people would be a bit expensive > at $20.00 a person. Is there another way to find them? > Thank You in advance, > Ilona > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Helen -----Original Message----- From: Karen Gacsala <gacsala3@earthlink.net> To: Hungary <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 16, 2010 3:14 pm Subject: [HUNGARY] Ilona Can someone tell me what the name Ilona translates to in English?? hanks Karen ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thank you to those who answered my post. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Gacsala" <gacsala3@earthlink.net> To: "Hungary" <HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:14 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Ilona > Can someone tell me what the name Ilona translates to in English?? > Thanks Karen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Karen here is a good website for female and male names Hungarian, Hungarian nicknames, Latin and German. http://web.archive.org/web/20071214074842/http://topolcsanyi.alphalink.com.a u/names/ Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Gacsala Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:14 PM To: Hungary Subject: [HUNGARY] Ilona Can someone tell me what the name Ilona translates to in English?? Thanks Karen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone tell me what the name Ilona translates to in English?? Thanks Karen

The Montana Standard Butte, Montana Feb. 20, 1959 Husband Of DALY'S Granddaughter Dies In New York Hamilton (AP) Baron George BASSENYEY died at a New York City hospital Thursday. He was the husband of Margit SIGRAY BASSENYEY, a granddaughter of the later Marcus DALY, Montana copper magnate. Other survivors: Daughter: Eva Son: Francis, by a former marriage BASSENYEY was a native of Budapest, Hungary. Funeral services Saturday at St. Stevens Church in New York. The couple was married 13 months ago and spent most of the past year at the Marcus DALY estate near Hamilton. Her parents, Count Anton and Countess Harriet DALY SIGRAY died at the close of WWII, shortly after arriving in New York from Budapest.