This is a wonderful publication, I enjoy reading every issue, I save the Hungarian Folk Tales for my grandkids, the best part is the publication is written in English. > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > From: jcolby7777@telus.net > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:22:53 -0700 > Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Voice Quarterly > > > Thank you, Les Josa for giving a plug for this publication from > Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada!! > > New Hungarian quarterly publication called Hungarian Voice. > > http://www.newhungarianvoice.com/ > > Judith Eöry Colby > North Vancouver, BC, Canada > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1

Thank you, Les Josa for giving a plug for this publication from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada!! New Hungarian quarterly publication called Hungarian Voice. http://www.newhungarianvoice.com/ Judith Eöry Colby North Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Thanks, Les, that is so neat. I remember seeing Paul Bako when he played for our Cubbies. I always corrected the announcer when they said his name with a small "a". We always pronounced my maiden name with a long "a". My grandma said that in Hungary it was pronounced like saying "Bucko". He may be a relative way down the line. I always was under the impression that it was a rare name, but found out that wasn't so. Also thought we were just the lowly farmers in Hungary, but Nick Gombash found out that we had nobility. So very interesting, but want to find that elusive great grandfather's place of birth in Hungary. Don't think he was dropped in Nagyhalasz by a spaceship, but kinda think Great grandmother Rozalia Grofcsik was abducted by aliens after his death! Ha ha! Sharon Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:02:07 -0500 From: "Laszlo \(Les\) Josa" <lesjosa@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Licenses to work To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAFiDtQkzirRLpPGgZcnxc1/CgAAAEAAAANHNUlpGuQBGmwcuBZT+wmIBAAAAAA==@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sharon, I might have given you this info before but here it is again. There is Gabor Bako in Lafayette LA. He is part owner/manager of a restaurant in Lafayette and his son Paul Bako http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bako Here is new search site you might want to use to search for Bakos. http://www.dirtsearch.org/ Laszlo (Les) Josa

Linda, all of present day Slovakia belonged to Hungary prior to 1920 (for over 1000 years). Therefore anybody born before that (in the territory of present day Slovakia) WAS born in Hungary. The 1920 and following US censuses asked them to name their country of origin according to 'present day' borders, so they had to name Slovakia as their country of origin. Quite a few 'ethnic' Hungarians then changed their race to 'magyar' - if they felt they were really Hungarian. Szoboles Slk as such did not exist. Likely the name is misspelled. They might have lived in Nyíregyháza at the time they left, but their places of birth might be somewhere else. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net P.S. I had computer problems (again) and was off the Net for a few days. Just catching up! :-) Hogan wrote: >Hi, >I have relatives who immigrated to the US in 1902 and 1904 from Szoboles >Slk, Hungary. (Is this part of present day Hungary?) > >This infomation seems to change over the years in the records. > >In the census it says they were born in Slovak, Hungary. >The records from Ellis Island from 1904 said Nyiregyhaza--Szabolcs > >Does anyone know their boundries and history enough to know where this was >in 1876 and 1883? Considering boundries may have changed, would the person >been born in Hungary or a nearby country? I know they also said they were >Catholic. >Were they really born in Hungary or a neighboring country? I am so >confused. > >1920 census, Hungarian crossed out their race and the word Maygar was >inserted for the husband, wife and children > >Thanks for your help. Linda Hogan (aka Hogyan) >

Hi, I have relatives who immigrated to the US in 1902 and 1904 from Szoboles Slk, Hungary. (Is this part of present day Hungary?) This infomation seems to change over the years in the records. In the census it says they were born in Slovak, Hungary. The records from Ellis Island from 1904 said Nyiregyhaza--Szabolcs Does anyone know their boundries and history enough to know where this was in 1876 and 1883? Considering boundries may have changed, would the person been born in Hungary or a nearby country? I know they also said they were Catholic. Were they really born in Hungary or a neighboring country? I am so confused. 1920 census, Hungarian crossed out their race and the word Maygar was inserted for the husband, wife and children Thanks for your help. Linda Hogan (aka Hogyan)

Thanks Margaret, I had a minister from Nagyhalasz who even in the 1980's talked to a man in his 90's who used to play in my greatgrandfather's yard as a child. My Grt grandfather was the town tailor at that time. Unfortunately he couldn't remember what happened to my Grt. grandmother after 1891 when Daniel Bako died. If only I was interested in the family history when I was young and I wish also that I knew some Hungarian so I could talk to my grandpa and ask him questions. I was too young and too stupid and now all I have is a lot of woulda coulda's. If they needed a license perhaps the form might give me some information on a birth town. Yep, those Bako people can be quite elusive, at least the ones we need! Ha ha. Sharon Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:01:22 -0400 From: "marlo" <marlo50@bex.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Licenses to work To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <72B4F92438814410883C04E093D6F0A0@margaret46066b> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sharon, I have a Bako Erzsebet who was born 1782 but I don't have a village and she died in 1864, probably in then Szaraz Berek Szatmar m which is now Bercu in Romania She married Lencses Gyorgy date unknown, he was born in 1782 and died 1864. They are my gggrand parents. I had a researcher find this information for me and that is all he came up with. Wish I could send you more. Margaret

Sharon, I might have given you this info before but here it is again. There is Gabor Bako in Lafayette LA. He is part owner/manager of a restaurant in Lafayette and his son Paul Bako http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bako Here is new search site you might want to use to search for Bakos. http://www.dirtsearch.org/ Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of tiszadada@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:50 PM To: Hungary Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Licenses to work Thanks Margaret, I had a minister from Nagyhalasz who even in the 1980's talked to a man in his 90's who used to play in my greatgrandfather's yard as a child. My Grt grandfather was the town tailor at that time. Unfortunately he couldn't remember what happened to my Grt. grandmother after 1891 when Daniel Bako died. If only I was interested in the family history when I was young and I wish also that I knew some Hungarian so I could talk to my grandpa and ask him questions. I was too young and too stupid and now all I have is a lot of woulda coulda's. If they needed a license perhaps the form might give me some information on a birth town. Yep, those Bako people can be quite elusive, at least the ones we need! Ha ha. Sharon Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:01:22 -0400 From: "marlo" <marlo50@bex.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Licenses to work To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <72B4F92438814410883C04E093D6F0A0@margaret46066b> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sharon, I have a Bako Erzsebet who was born 1782 but I don't have a village and she died in 1864, probably in then Szaraz Berek Szatmar m which is now Bercu in Romania She married Lencses Gyorgy date unknown, he was born in 1782 and died 1864. They are my gggrand parents. I had a researcher find this information for me and that is all he came up with. Wish I could send you more. Margaret ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Evening Public Ledger Philadelphia, Pa. July 27, 1915 The Port Of Missing Ships - Was Once Thought To Be The Sargasso Sea, But Now We Know Better - Famous Wrecks That Preceded The Overturn Of The Eastland At Her Pier By: A. WELLESLEY BACUP The Chicago River is not the sea, but it is as treacherous as the great deep. The Eastland would have capsized no more quickly on the Atlantic than near the Clark street bridge, if the capsizing conditions were present. It is easy to say that the boat was unseaworthy-perhaps it was-but other boats supposed to be constructed to weather all storms have sailed into that crowded port of missing ships which is not connected by mail with any other city. The great mystery of the seas, whether inland or bounded by the continents, remains un- solved, though perhaps the Eastland case may provide a clue. Shifting cargoes have without any doubt been responsible for many a missing ship. The cargo of the Eastland shifted, and the rest is a great horror, from the shock of which the nation is still suffering and will suffer till the next tragedy causes a new sensation. If the Eastland had succeeded in getting into the lake with its precious freight the tragedy might have been greater. A passenger steamer would have drawn the curious excursionists to one side of the vessel and the boat would have careened in deep water, far from land, where the lifeboats would have been the only means at hand to save the passengers. When Ships Break Their Back The tragedy of the Great Lakes is as great in proportion to their size as the tragedy of the salt seas. Many a vessel has sailed from port to be heard of no more. A fleet of cargo steamers was built some years ago on the theory that there was too much waste space in the hold. The boats were not properly strengthened to stand a storm and one at least of them went to the bottom leaving no trace. The critics of the system of construction used insisted that the strain of the heavy seas broke the back of the boat by forcing the steel plates to act as shears, cutting the rivets clear through and letting the vessel go to the bottom. No one will ever know whether this theory is sound or not. There used to be a tradition that the Sargasso Sea was filled with the sodden hulks of the wrecks of centuries, but a little exploration exploded that myth as it earlier proved that men could cross the equator without being burned to death by the perpendicular rays of the sun, and that there were no fire breathing monsters of the deep whose breath would scorch the life out of the venturesome mariner. While the popularly accepted nature of the mysteries of the deep have changed, the mystery remains. The invention of steam did not lessen it, but wireless telegraphy has decreased the number of tragedies that must forever remain unexplained. If it had not been for that most wonderful application of the mysterious force of electricity the fate of the Titanic would have still been a mystery. We should have known that the boat had gone down with all onboard, but how it happened would have been explained no more fully than Tyrone Power's note in a bottle explained the fate of the President, the first great steamship to go down in the Atlantic. When the President Disappeared The President sailed from New York on March 11, 1841, with 300 persons on board, and was never seen again. When it failed to reach Liverpool on the scheduled date no one was alarmed, for steam navigation was still in its infancy and delays were expected. But days passed and grew into weeks. There was no ocean cable, so it was impossible to communicate quickly with America, or for American's to learn whether their friends had arrived safely in England. It was thought that the ship might have had to put into a remote port for repairs. Then a letter was received by the relatives of one of the passengers announcing that the boat had stopped at Madeira because her engines and rudder needed attention. The waiting friends took heart of hope and were cheerful for a while. Then an Irish packet arrived, reporting that a large steamer was waiting outside for high water to come in to the Liverpool docks. Everyone was sure that this was the President and crowds gathered by the riverside, flags were hoisted and preparations were made to welcome the lost ship. But it was not the President. The letter from Madeira was discovered to be fraudulent and for many years the mystery remained. Finally, some one picked up a bottle in the sea containing a note purporting to be written by Tyrone Power, a distinguished comedian of his time, who had been a passenger on the vessel, announcing that as he wrote the boat was sinking. The note has been accepted as genuine, but that, too, may have been a hoax. When New York Mourned The sinking of the Arctic off Cape race on October 27, 1854, has been explained, in spite of the dense fog and snowstorm in which she received her death blow. She was in a collision with the French steamer VESTA. The captain of the Arctic thought the other vessel was seriously damaged and that his own ship was unhurt, and he put off with some of his crew in lifeboats to offer assistance only to discover soon after that his own ship was sinking. Some of the passengers were saved, but 439 lives were lost. As most of the dead had lived in New York that city was deeply moved by the tragedy. The preachers took it as a text for their sermons and the school readers of a generation or two ago contained extracts from one of the most famous of these sermons, in which the horror of the wreck was described with all the skill of a modern newspaper writer. The CITY OF BOSTON, however, which left New York on January 25, 1870, stopped at Halifax three days later and then went out into the unknown, while all its nearly 200 passengers took that great voyage undertaken by those who go to the bottom of the sea. Another passenger ship that met the same fate was the COLOMBO, that sailed from Boston seven years later and vanished as completely as though it had never existed. To pass from passenger to freight steamers, the case of the NARONIC, of the White Star Line, is one of the most interesting. This ship was one of the biggest of her class, was almost new and was in the best condition. She was so stanch that it was thought she could weather the worst storm that ever raged over the restless waves. But she never reached the port of living ships, and the only trace of her that was ever found was one of her boats, picked up in mid-ocean some weeks after she sailed. This silent, inanimate survivor of the wreck contained not a trace of evidence which would explain what had become of the great freighter. It may have been blown up by a boiler explosion, or it may have been capsized by shifting cargo, or any one of the thousand and one causes which bring disaster on the deep may have been responsible for its disappearance. It has doubtless rusted away in the bottom of the sea, for the modern steel vessel is so built that it can no longer be said that its bones are bleaching on the sands of the ocean's bed. And they never did bleach there, anyway. The science of navigation has not profited by the lesson of the missing ships, for no one has ever come back to read that lesson to the marine constructors. The skilled ship builders have thereby escaped much amateur advice, such as was lavished by an outraged and indignant public at the time of the Titanic disaster, when every man who could use a pen was telling the rest of us how to prevent a repetition of similar disasters. The lesson of the Eastland, however, is apparently so clear that it teaches itself.

Thanks so much Suzanne. The three related gen guys will be so happy to hear they have found another relative. I took a large map of Bereg Megye on a poster board to their family reunion a week ago. Knowing the towns where their grandparents were from, I pasted arrows with the father's surname, mother's maiden name printed on them...pointed to their respective towns. It was a big hit. Suzanne, I reiterate what Les wrote us all and yourself. It's so good to hear from you. You nurtured most of us with your knowledge of the changing of town names and with your CD production of same. Warm regards, Marika

I am about going bonkers trying to find the birth place of my great grandfather, Daniel Bako. I'm leaving out the marks over his name so it will print. He married my great grandmother Rozalia Grofcsik 18 Nov 1876 in Kemecse, Szabolcs, Hungary. He was Reformed and she was Greek Catholic. They resided in Nagyhalasz, Szabolcs from 1877 to 5 Aug 1891 when he died. They had five sons with only one surviving infancy. The surviving son was Geza, born 4 Oct 1878, my grandfather. Geza came to America after marrying my grandmother Rozalia Semsei in Tiszadada, Szabolcs. Daniel and Rozalia never came to America. She disappeared after Daniel died. No remarriage, no death found in Nagyhalasz. Nick Gombash and I have been working on microfilms from Gava and Berczel where there were a zillion Bako families, but so far we haven't found Daniel who was born about 1845 according to the age on his marriage record. What I am wondering is, do people who have occupations need a license or permit from the town/county to work? Daniel Bako was a tailor. I found him listed on the Radix site for Industry and trade directory of Hungary, 1891. If so, where would I write to get the complete information from that. Just maybe it might give his place of birth. A lot of the information on the FHL microfilms do tell place of birth, but unfortunately what I have found on my people did not. His wife, Rozalia is a mystery as well. I have a second cousin who is going to Hungary and would like to find some information, but with all the research I've done since the early 1980's has come up empty and it is a major brick wall. Any help would be so gratefully appreciated. Sharon

Sharon, I have a Bako Erzsebet who was born 1782 but I don't have a village and she died in 1864, probably in then Szaraz Berek Szatmar m which is now Bercu in Romania She married Lencses Gyorgy date unknown, he was born in 1782 and died 1864. They are my gggrand parents. I had a researcher find this information for me and that is all he came up with. Wish I could send you more. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <tiszadada@comcast.net> To: "Hungary" <HUNGARY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Licenses to work >I am about going bonkers trying to find the birth place of my great >grandfather, Daniel Bako. I'm leaving out the marks over his name so it >will print. He married my great grandmother Rozalia Grofcsik 18 Nov 1876 >in Kemecse, Szabolcs, Hungary. He was Reformed and she was Greek Catholic. >They resided in Nagyhalasz, Szabolcs from 1877 to 5 Aug 1891 when he died. >They had five sons with only one surviving infancy. The surviving son was >Geza, born 4 Oct 1878, my grandfather. Geza came to America after marrying >my grandmother Rozalia Semsei in Tiszadada, Szabolcs. > Daniel and Rozalia never came to America. She disappeared after Daniel > died. No remarriage, no death found in Nagyhalasz. > > Nick Gombash and I have been working on microfilms from Gava and Berczel > where there were a zillion Bako families, but so far we haven't found > Daniel who was born about 1845 according to the age on his marriage > record. > > What I am wondering is, do people who have occupations need a license or > permit from the town/county to work? Daniel Bako was a tailor. I found > him listed on the Radix site for Industry and trade directory of Hungary, > 1891. If so, where would I write to get the complete information from > that. Just maybe it might give his place of birth. > > A lot of the information on the FHL microfilms do tell place of birth, but > unfortunately what I have found on my people did not. His wife, Rozalia > is a mystery as well. > > I have a second cousin who is going to Hungary and would like to find some > information, but with all the research I've done since the early 1980's > has come up empty and it is a major brick wall. > > Any help would be so gratefully appreciated. > Sharon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3015 - Release Date: 07/19/10 06:36:00

Wow Suzanne, great info. Nice to see you online. It has been awhile. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Jimenez Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:32 AM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com; hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Query on town name Austria-Hungary Ignécz or Ignéc was in Munkács Járás, Bereg Megye and is now in the Zakarpattia (Transcarpathian) region, Ukraine. Currently called Zniats’ovo, it has had the following names: Znyacovo, Znacevo, Znjacevo, and Ynyatsevo. Best regards, Suzanne Hungarian Village Finder http://www.hungarianvillagefinder.com/ Kosztinka and Kojsza Family History Page http://users.sisqtel.net/suzannej/index.html My Ancestral Village of Kisgejoc http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~oldhungaryvillages/Kisgejocz/ --- On Mon, 7/19/10, MLPecsi@aol.com <MLPecsi@aol.com> wrote: From: MLPecsi@aol.com <MLPecsi@aol.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Query on town name Austria-Hungary To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 6:13 AM I'm doing research for someone and can't Google the name of the town. On 1915 Marriage Certificate Application in the U.S. it is Egneto Austria On 1926 Naturalization U. S. it is Znyaczava Austria-Hungary Known, identified persons with similar surname spellings Mucsicska/Mucsecska/Mucsiecska Are from towns around Munkacs Hungary Would appreciate any help. Marika ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ignécz or Ignéc was in Munkács Járás, Bereg Megye and is now in the Zakarpattia (Transcarpathian) region, Ukraine.  Currently called Zniats’ovo, it has had the following names:  Znyacovo, Znacevo, Znjacevo, and Ynyatsevo.   Best regards, Suzanne Hungarian Village Finder http://www.hungarianvillagefinder.com/ Kosztinka and Kojsza Family History Page http://users.sisqtel.net/suzannej/index.html My Ancestral Village of Kisgejoc http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~oldhungaryvillages/Kisgejocz/   --- On Mon, 7/19/10, MLPecsi@aol.com <MLPecsi@aol.com> wrote: From: MLPecsi@aol.com <MLPecsi@aol.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Query on town name Austria-Hungary To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 6:13 AM I'm doing research for someone and can't Google the name of the town. On 1915 Marriage Certificate Application in the U.S.  it is Egneto  Austria On 1926 Naturalization U. S.  it is  Znyaczava  Austria-Hungary Known, identified persons with similar surname spellings  Mucsicska/Mucsecska/Mucsiecska Are from towns around Munkacs Hungary Would appreciate any help. Marika ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm doing research for someone and can't Google the name of the town. On 1915 Marriage Certificate Application in the U.S. it is Egneto Austria On 1926 Naturalization U. S. it is Znyaczava Austria-Hungary Known, identified persons with similar surname spellings Mucsicska/Mucsecska/Mucsiecska Are from towns around Munkacs Hungary Would appreciate any help. Marika

The Morning Herald Uniontown, Pa. Sept. 9, 1960 KARA, John G. - Aged 77, a well known resident of 40 Fourth St., Hiller, died Wednesday in the Brownsville General Hospital, following an extended illness. Born Sept. 16, 1883 in Hungary, he was a retired employee of the Bridgeport Mine of the H. C. FRICK Coke Co. and a member of the UMWA, Bridgeport local. Survivors: Wife: Mrs. Rose BORIS KARA Daughters: Mrs. Magdalene SPISHOCK? Mrs. Irene CAMINO, Hiller Sons: Robert and Richard at home Alex and Albert, Hiller Joseph of Pittsburgh Julius of Cleveland, O. Sisters: Mrs. Esther TOTH of New Brunswick , N. J. Mrs. Julia SANIZO?, of Perth Amboy, N. J. He was predeceased by a son, S/Sgt. John KARA, who was killed March 10, 1945 during WWII. Friends will be received today in the Kisinger Funeral Home, Brownsville, followed by additional rites in the Hungarian church in Brownsville. Rev. Victor Bodnar will officiate. Internment in the Bridgeport cemetery, Brownsville.

The Evening Standard Uniontown Penn. Dec. 27, 1949 SEHEE, Mrs. Mary - age 55 years, died at her home on Woodvale Street, Dunbar, Monday morning, Dec. 26, 1949 at two o'clock. She was born in Austria,Hungary, and has been a resident of Dunbar since 1901. She was president of the Womens Lodge of St. Stephen's church and a member of the Rosary Society of St. Stephen's. Survivors: Daughters: Mrs. Susan PADAVICH of Aliquippa Mrs. Anna LITOVSKY of Detroit Mary, at home Sons: John and Robert of Detroit Joseph of Salt Lake City Sister: Mrs. Anna STEFFEN of Brownsville Friends are being received at home in Woodvale St., Dunbar, where brief services will be held Thursday with additional services in the St. Stephen's G. C. church, Connellsville with Rev. Fr. Michael Kushner as celebrant. Internment in the church cemetery. Burhans Funeral Home, Dunbar.

In a message dated 7/17/2010 12:56:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cherlock@cheqnet.net writes: He was a retired coal miner and a member of St. Stephen's G.C. Church of Leisenring, the Holy Name Society, a life member of the Slovak Club, the Pennsylvania Slovak Union No. 16. Cheryl, Thanks for posting this obit. I am interested in obtaining more information on the above church. It is still open today, but has had a few priest's in charge and general information on it's cemetery is missing. The current priest has done a very good job on reconstructing names in the cemetery, but I really need information on it from years ago. Can you find anything in your newspaper sources? Thanks, Marika.

Thank You Cheryl. This Joseph Szakal is my Father. The others in the Lorain, Elyria are not related. I don't know about John in Indiana. Thank You again. Ilona ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Wenberg" <cherlock@cheqnet.net> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:12 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] SZAKAL, Joseph obit 2002 > The Chronicle Telegram Sept. 4, 2002 > > Joseph "Kidd" SZAKAL, 94, Played Semi-Pro Baseball > > Joseph "Kidd" SZAKAL, 94, of Elyria Township, died Monday at his home > while under the > care of New Life Hospice, following a short illness. > > Born in Lorain, he had been a resident of Elyria Township since 1937. He > retired in 1973 > after 44 years service from US Steel Lorain Works, where he worked as a > high mill > plugger in the 3 Seamless Pipe Mill Dept. > Mr. SZAKAL was a member of St. Ladislau Catholic Church in Lorain and the > church's > former Holy Name Society, where he received a Bronze Medallion Circle > Award from > the Diocese of Cleveland. He was also a member of St. Lad's Sick Benefit > Society, > Hungarian Friends Society and United Steel Workers Union Local 1104. > > He enjoyed hunting, fishing and gardening and was an avid bowler on > Leagues at > Saxon Club, Croatian Club and Rebman's Recreation. > > Mr. SZAKAL had a successful career playing baseball with teams equivalent > to the > minor leagues that started in 1924 and continued through the late 1930's. > Referred to as hurler, he was well known for his fastball. He was once > scouted by > Walter Johnson of the Cleveland Indians and played for several different > teams in the > area, including Pennzoll, Aztec Indians, Hungarian Democrats, Verhovai, > Sandrew, > Grove Avenue Merchants and Dusky Brothers. A highlight of his baseball > career was > the day he pitched against the Toledo Mud Hens and won. > > Survivors: > > Son: Joseph J. of Elyria > > Daughter: Jeno "Illona" KISS of Amherst > > Sister: Julia KEREKES > > He was preceded in death by: > > Wife: Helen (nee PUMMER) wife of 50 years in 1987 > > Parents: Mihaly "Michael" and Anna (nee SPISAK) > > Step-daughter" Eleanora RUPP in 1989 > > Grandson: Eugene KISS in 1997 > > Brothers: Dash, Steve, Michael and John SAKAL > > Sister: Irene SAKACH > > Dovin Funeral Home, Lorain. Church services officiated by Rev. Patrick > Shields > Burial in the Calvary Cemetery, Lorain > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Marika, I looked at the website but the price is a little steep. 146 dollars plus 15 dollars shipping. They are proud of the book. I think I will have to find it in a library loan. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MLPecsi@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:01 AM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Book Les, Adels-Almanach 1882 is available for purchase thru Abe Books, but very pricey. Sources are in Germany. I bought a book years ago from Germany ($60.00) by sending cash and wasn't disappointed. My contact was a professor. _http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=44&imagefield.y= 10&sortby=2&tn=Adels-Almanach+1882_ (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=44&imagefield.y= 10&sortby=2&tn=Adels-Almanach+1882) Unfortunately some libraries have stopped offering Inter Library Loans due to costs involved. Some of the larger libraries may have it thru ILL, such as Los Angeles. Check with your home library and mention Los Angeles.. Good luck in finding one. Marika ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message