Hello Listers, Wonder how that got through. I rejected the message on my end, should not have made it to the list. Must've been some bug on the Rootsweb side because the list is set to Moderated, all messages need to be approved prior to sending to the list to avoid this very problem. Send no replies, IGNORE & DELETE the message. Typical phishing scam. The e-mail address has been blocked/banned from the list. Thanks, William. On Saturday, June 29, 2019, 10:07:45 a.m. GMT+2, hungary-request@rootsweb.com <hungary-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Send HUNGARY mailing list submissions to hungary@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to hungary-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to hungary-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at hungary-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of HUNGARY digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Attendees DataBase of M&M 2019 (Cynthia Higgins)   2. Re: Attendees DataBase of M&M 2019 (Laszlo Josa) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:54:46 -0500 From: Cynthia Higgins <cynthia.higgins@fortuneproleads.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Attendees DataBase of M&M 2019 To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <2fdd01d52dc1$7be2b210$73a81630$@fortuneproleads.com> Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii" Hi, Would you be interested in procuring an Attendees Database list of M&M | Microscopy & Microanalysis 2019 and there will be a cost associated with the list. Attendees Database: Poster Sessions, Workshops, Tutorials, Networking Events And Many More... List contains: Contact Name, Title, Company Name, Size, Physical Address, Opt-In Email address, Phone & Fax numbers and etc. If you're interested, Please let me know I will assist you with counts, pricing and more information. Awaiting Response, Cynthia higgins Marketing Executive                                     If you do not wish to hear from us again, please respond back with "leave out" and we will honour your request. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 19:18:38 -0500 From: Laszlo Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Re: Attendees DataBase of M&M 2019 To: List Hungary <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <CAMGHYWo3AjMtYaKrmxBE7j=2=ri5cm+1rVcYw61Sfijjet7Qng@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cynthia, no idea what this is about. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM Cynthia Higgins < cynthia.higgins@fortuneproleads.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Would you be interested in procuring an Attendees Database list of M&M | > Microscopy & Microanalysis 2019 and there will be a cost associated with > the > list. > > > > Attendees Database: Poster Sessions, Workshops, Tutorials, Networking > Events > And Many More... > > > > > List contains: Contact Name, Title, Company Name, Size, Physical Address, > Opt-In Email address, Phone & Fax numbers and etc. > > > > If you're interested, Please let me know I will assist you with counts, > pricing and more information. > > > > Awaiting Response, > > Cynthia higgins > > Marketing Executive > > > > > > If you do not wish to hear from us again, please respond back with "leave > out" and we will honour your request. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hungary@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Laszlo (Les) Josa ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the HUNGARY mailing list -- hungary@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of HUNGARY Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2 **************************************

Hello Listers, Wonder how that got through. I rejected the message on my end, should not have made it to the list. Must've been some bug on the Rootsweb side because the list is set to Moderated, all messages need to be approved prior to sending to the list to avoid this very problem. Send no replies, IGNORE & DELETE the message. Typical phishing scam. Thanks, William. On Saturday, June 29, 2019, 10:07:45 a.m. GMT+2, hungary-request@rootsweb.com <hungary-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Send HUNGARY mailing list submissions to hungary@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to hungary-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to hungary-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at hungary-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of HUNGARY digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Attendees DataBase of M&M 2019 (Cynthia Higgins)   2. Re: Attendees DataBase of M&M 2019 (Laszlo Josa) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:54:46 -0500 From: Cynthia Higgins <cynthia.higgins@fortuneproleads.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Attendees DataBase of M&M 2019 To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <2fdd01d52dc1$7be2b210$73a81630$@fortuneproleads.com> Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii" Hi, Would you be interested in procuring an Attendees Database list of M&M | Microscopy & Microanalysis 2019 and there will be a cost associated with the list. Attendees Database: Poster Sessions, Workshops, Tutorials, Networking Events And Many More... List contains: Contact Name, Title, Company Name, Size, Physical Address, Opt-In Email address, Phone & Fax numbers and etc. If you're interested, Please let me know I will assist you with counts, pricing and more information. Awaiting Response, Cynthia higgins Marketing Executive                                     If you do not wish to hear from us again, please respond back with "leave out" and we will honour your request. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 19:18:38 -0500 From: Laszlo Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Re: Attendees DataBase of M&M 2019 To: List Hungary <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <CAMGHYWo3AjMtYaKrmxBE7j=2=ri5cm+1rVcYw61Sfijjet7Qng@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cynthia, no idea what this is about. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM Cynthia Higgins < cynthia.higgins@fortuneproleads.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Would you be interested in procuring an Attendees Database list of M&M | > Microscopy & Microanalysis 2019 and there will be a cost associated with > the > list. > > > > Attendees Database: Poster Sessions, Workshops, Tutorials, Networking > Events > And Many More... > > > > > List contains: Contact Name, Title, Company Name, Size, Physical Address, > Opt-In Email address, Phone & Fax numbers and etc. > > > > If you're interested, Please let me know I will assist you with counts, > pricing and more information. > > > > Awaiting Response, > > Cynthia higgins > > Marketing Executive > > > > > > If you do not wish to hear from us again, please respond back with "leave > out" and we will honour your request. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hungary@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Laszlo (Les) Josa ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the HUNGARY mailing list -- hungary@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of HUNGARY Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2 **************************************

Cynthia, no idea what this is about. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM Cynthia Higgins < cynthia.higgins@fortuneproleads.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Would you be interested in procuring an Attendees Database list of M&M | > Microscopy & Microanalysis 2019 and there will be a cost associated with > the > list. > > > > Attendees Database: Poster Sessions, Workshops, Tutorials, Networking > Events > And Many More... > > > > > List contains: Contact Name, Title, Company Name, Size, Physical Address, > Opt-In Email address, Phone & Fax numbers and etc. > > > > If you're interested, Please let me know I will assist you with counts, > pricing and more information. > > > > Awaiting Response, > > Cynthia higgins > > Marketing Executive > > > > > > If you do not wish to hear from us again, please respond back with "leave > out" and we will honour your request. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hungary@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Laszlo (Les) Josa

Hi, Would you be interested in procuring an Attendees Database list of M&M | Microscopy & Microanalysis 2019 and there will be a cost associated with the list. Attendees Database: Poster Sessions, Workshops, Tutorials, Networking Events And Many More... List contains: Contact Name, Title, Company Name, Size, Physical Address, Opt-In Email address, Phone & Fax numbers and etc. If you're interested, Please let me know I will assist you with counts, pricing and more information. Awaiting Response, Cynthia higgins Marketing Executive If you do not wish to hear from us again, please respond back with "leave out" and we will honour your request.

Greetings Listers, Unfortunately it looks like one of our members had her e-mail address hacked. As a result, I've switched the list into moderated status of members as well so that we avoid having SPAM messages such as this reach the list. Please be sure to delete, never click on any links... if ever unsure - always ask and double-check. I won't quote the original message so that the link is not posted what would be the third time... suffice it to say, it's the e-mail from HUNGARY-L that came in today January 22. Thanks, William.

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Gerald, your message was empty Les Josa Sent from myMail for iOS Wednesday, December 13, 2017, 9:34 AM -0600 from GERALD KISABETH <gkisabeth241950mi@comcast.net>: > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, the Hungary website does not accept attachments. If you like send it to me at my personal email lesjosa@lusfiber.net  Laszlo (Les) Josa Sent from myMail for iOS Monday, October 23, 2017, 9:47 PM -0500 from judy.berntsen01@gmail.com <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com>: >Hi Roslyn > >I have attached copies of the marriage certificate for you to look at. It >is very clear to read. > >Many thanks. > >Judy > > >On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:57 PM, mapa < mapa@tsn.cc > wrote: > >> Hi Judy >> >> Can you post a copy of the marriage certificate so we could have a look at >> the writing on the certificate. >> >> Thanks >> Roslyn >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: HUNGARY [mailto:hungary-bounces+mapa=tsn.cc@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of >> Judy Berntsen >> Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2017 2:39 PM >> To: hungary@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] BIRTH RECORD OF MY GT GT GRANDMOTHER >> >> Thank you for that information, but I have a date of 12 December 1844 and I >> also have the marriage certificate, and neither of the names mentioned in >> the records of Family Search match the name on the marriage certificate. >> But thanks all the same. I don't have any more information other than tbe >> fact that she was married in the Viennese Embassy, Austria and then her >> children were born in Basel, Switzerland. >> >> Regards >> >> Judy Berntsen >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Laszlo Josa < lesjosa@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> > Judy, look at this on the LDS website >> > >> > https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count = >> > 20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Constance%20Maria%22~%20% >> > 2Bsurname%3ADumtsa~%20%2Brecord_country%3AHungary >> > >> > Hope this helps, >> > >> > Laszlo (Les) Josa >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Judy Berntsen >> > < judy.berntsen01@gmail.com > >> > wrote: >> > >> > > I am wondering if anyone on this list can help me please. I would >> > > like >> > to >> > > confirm that my Gt Gt Grandmoother called Constance Maria/Maree >> > > Dumtsa >> > was >> > > born/baptised on 12 December 1844 somewhere in Hungary I think. >> > > Well >> > lthat >> > > is what everyone else seems to think. I know she was born on the >> > > Hungarian/Austrian border somewhere. And if possible the names of >> > > her parents as well please. This would be a big help to me. I have >> > > just started researching this family and have found the children in >> > > different places ie United States of America, England. >> > > >> > > Many thanks to anyone who can help in this matter. >> > > >> > > Judy Berntsen >> > > New Zealand >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Laszlo (Les) Josa >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Roslyn I have attached copies of the marriage certificate for you to look at. It is very clear to read. Many thanks. Judy On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:57 PM, mapa <mapa@tsn.cc> wrote: > Hi Judy > > Can you post a copy of the marriage certificate so we could have a look at > the writing on the certificate. > > Thanks > Roslyn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: HUNGARY [mailto:hungary-bounces+mapa=tsn.cc@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of > Judy Berntsen > Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2017 2:39 PM > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] BIRTH RECORD OF MY GT GT GRANDMOTHER > > Thank you for that information, but I have a date of 12 December 1844 and I > also have the marriage certificate, and neither of the names mentioned in > the records of Family Search match the name on the marriage certificate. > But thanks all the same. I don't have any more information other than tbe > fact that she was married in the Viennese Embassy, Austria and then her > children were born in Basel, Switzerland. > > Regards > > Judy Berntsen > > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Laszlo Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Judy, look at this on the LDS website > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count= > > 20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Constance%20Maria%22~%20% > > 2Bsurname%3ADumtsa~%20%2Brecord_country%3AHungary > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Judy Berntsen > > <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I am wondering if anyone on this list can help me please. I would > > > like > > to > > > confirm that my Gt Gt Grandmoother called Constance Maria/Maree > > > Dumtsa > > was > > > born/baptised on 12 December 1844 somewhere in Hungary I think. > > > Well > > lthat > > > is what everyone else seems to think. I know she was born on the > > > Hungarian/Austrian border somewhere. And if possible the names of > > > her parents as well please. This would be a big help to me. I have > > > just started researching this family and have found the children in > > > different places ie United States of America, England. > > > > > > Many thanks to anyone who can help in this matter. > > > > > > Judy Berntsen > > > New Zealand > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Judy Can you post a copy of the marriage certificate so we could have a look at the writing on the certificate. Thanks Roslyn -----Original Message----- From: HUNGARY [mailto:hungary-bounces+mapa=tsn.cc@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Berntsen Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2017 2:39 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] BIRTH RECORD OF MY GT GT GRANDMOTHER Thank you for that information, but I have a date of 12 December 1844 and I also have the marriage certificate, and neither of the names mentioned in the records of Family Search match the name on the marriage certificate. But thanks all the same. I don't have any more information other than tbe fact that she was married in the Viennese Embassy, Austria and then her children were born in Basel, Switzerland. Regards Judy Berntsen On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Laszlo Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> wrote: > Judy, look at this on the LDS website > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count= > 20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Constance%20Maria%22~%20% > 2Bsurname%3ADumtsa~%20%2Brecord_country%3AHungary > > Hope this helps, > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Judy Berntsen > <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I am wondering if anyone on this list can help me please. I would > > like > to > > confirm that my Gt Gt Grandmoother called Constance Maria/Maree > > Dumtsa > was > > born/baptised on 12 December 1844 somewhere in Hungary I think. > > Well > lthat > > is what everyone else seems to think. I know she was born on the > > Hungarian/Austrian border somewhere. And if possible the names of > > her parents as well please. This would be a big help to me. I have > > just started researching this family and have found the children in > > different places ie United States of America, England. > > > > Many thanks to anyone who can help in this matter. > > > > Judy Berntsen > > New Zealand > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, On 2017-10-22 05:38, Judy Berntsen wrote: > Thank you for that information, but I have a date of 12 December 1844 > and I > also have the marriage certificate, and neither of the names mentioned > in > the records of Family Search match the name on the marriage > certificate. > But thanks all the same. I don't have any more information other than > tbe > fact that she was married in the Viennese Embassy, Austria and then her > children were born in Basel, Switzerland. Querying FS for individuals with a last name of Dumtsa, a birth year of 1844, a birth country of Hungary and a marriage country of Austria[1] yields, amongst others, a marriage[2] of a Maria Constance Dumtsa and a Charles Francis Noble Hall on the 17th of November 1866 in Vienna, Austria. [1] https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3ADumtsa~%20%2Bbirth_place%3AHungary~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1844-1844~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3AAustria~ [2] https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT85-WXP > > Regards > > Judy Berntsen > >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Judy Berntsen wrote: >> >> > I am wondering if anyone on this list can help me please. I would like >> to >> > confirm that my Gt Gt Grandmoother called Constance Maria/Maree Dumtsa >> was >> > born/baptised on 12 December 1844 somewhere in Hungary I think. When I query FS with for the name of Maria Constance Dumtsa with a birth country of Hungary and, given that the information you provided seems to suggest you're not sure about her date of birth, a birth year between 1830 and 1850 it yields the following results[3]. [3] https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Maria%20Constance%22~%20%2Bsurname%3ADumtsa~%20%2Bbirth_place%3AHungary~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1830-1850~ >> > Well that >> > is what everyone else seems to think. I know she was born on the >> > Hungarian/Austrian border somewhere. And if possible the names of her >> > parents as well please. This would be a big help to me. I have just >> > started researching this family and have found the children in different >> > places ie United States of America, England. >> > >> > Many thanks to anyone who can help in this matter. >> > >> > Judy Berntsen >> > New Zealand Enjoy your search, regards, Jk.

Thank you for that information, but I have a date of 12 December 1844 and I also have the marriage certificate, and neither of the names mentioned in the records of Family Search match the name on the marriage certificate. But thanks all the same. I don't have any more information other than tbe fact that she was married in the Viennese Embassy, Austria and then her children were born in Basel, Switzerland. Regards Judy Berntsen On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Laszlo Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> wrote: > Judy, look at this on the LDS website > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count= > 20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Constance%20Maria%22~%20% > 2Bsurname%3ADumtsa~%20%2Brecord_country%3AHungary > > Hope this helps, > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Judy Berntsen <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I am wondering if anyone on this list can help me please. I would like > to > > confirm that my Gt Gt Grandmoother called Constance Maria/Maree Dumtsa > was > > born/baptised on 12 December 1844 somewhere in Hungary I think. Well > lthat > > is what everyone else seems to think. I know she was born on the > > Hungarian/Austrian border somewhere. And if possible the names of her > > parents as well please. This would be a big help to me. I have just > > started researching this family and have found the children in different > > places ie United States of America, England. > > > > Many thanks to anyone who can help in this matter. > > > > Judy Berntsen > > New Zealand > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am wondering if anyone on this list can help me please. I would like to confirm that my Gt Gt Grandmoother called Constance Maria/Maree Dumtsa was born/baptised on 12 December 1844 somewhere in Hungary I think. Well lthat is what everyone else seems to think. I know she was born on the Hungarian/Austrian border somewhere. And if possible the names of her parents as well please. This would be a big help to me. I have just started researching this family and have found the children in different places ie United States of America, England. Many thanks to anyone who can help in this matter. Judy Berntsen New Zealand

Judy, look at this on the LDS website https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Constance%20Maria%22~%20%2Bsurname%3ADumtsa~%20%2Brecord_country%3AHungary Hope this helps, Laszlo (Les) Josa On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Judy Berntsen <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> wrote: > I am wondering if anyone on this list can help me please. I would like to > confirm that my Gt Gt Grandmoother called Constance Maria/Maree Dumtsa was > born/baptised on 12 December 1844 somewhere in Hungary I think. Well lthat > is what everyone else seems to think. I know she was born on the > Hungarian/Austrian border somewhere. And if possible the names of her > parents as well please. This would be a big help to me. I have just > started researching this family and have found the children in different > places ie United States of America, England. > > Many thanks to anyone who can help in this matter. > > Judy Berntsen > New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Laszlo (Les) Josa

Hi Kim, It's been difficult, either to find an already translated into English version of something, or even just Hungarian funerary literature that isn't extremely lengthy. This particular sermon is the most famous and ancient example of a Hungarian funerary sermon and prayer from back in the 1100s. It's not specific to Reformed/Calvinist Hungarians since it's before the Reformation, and it does mention St. Peter but it might be useful. Has the Hungarian and English translations but is lengthy. This is a length to the PDF file of it. http://www.1moment.hu/halotti_beszed.pdf Here's a recent (1950) version of that same poem updated by Sándor Márai entitled 'Funeral Oration': http://www.poetrymagazines.org.uk/magazine/record.asp?id=16819 Then there are various poems from Hungarian poets over the past few centuries up until recently but there's no original Hungarian versions - just translations... http://mek.oszk.hu/03900/03966/html/index.htm http://mek.oszk.hu/06500/06567/06567.htm#11 I hope something from this helps. I know you're likely short on time if it's for a funeral card. William. From: <kimformica@optonline.net> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Poem for Funeral Card Message-ID: <000b01d33e38$f091bd10$d1b53730$@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Can anyone recommend a saying, poem, psalm in Hungarian with English translation for a funeral card? We are part of the Calvin Synod, but I am having trouble locating anything as I do not read Hungarian.  Thanks, Kim

Thank you, but it needs to be extremely short for the memorial card. > On Oct 6, 2017, at 12:40 PM, W.S.V. <stratfordbaby@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Kim, > It's been difficult, either to find an already translated into English version of something, or even just Hungarian funerary literature that isn't extremely lengthy. > This particular sermon is the most famous and ancient example of a Hungarian funerary sermon and prayer from back in the 1100s. It's not specific to Reformed/Calvinist Hungarians since it's before the Reformation, and it does mention St. Peter but it might be useful. Has the Hungarian and English translations but is lengthy. This is a length to the PDF file of it. > http://www.1moment.hu/halotti_beszed.pdf > > Here's a recent (1950) version of that same poem updated by Sándor Márai entitled 'Funeral Oration': > http://www.poetrymagazines.org.uk/magazine/record.asp?id=16819 > > Then there are various poems from Hungarian poets over the past few centuries up until recently but there's no original Hungarian versions - just translations... > > http://mek.oszk.hu/03900/03966/html/index.htm > > http://mek.oszk.hu/06500/06567/06567.htm#11 > > I hope something from this helps. I know you're likely short on time if it's for a funeral card. > William. > From: <kimformica@optonline.net> > To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [HUNGARY] Poem for Funeral Card > Message-ID: <000b01d33e38$f091bd10$d1b53730$@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Can anyone recommend a saying, poem, psalm in Hungarian with English > translation for a funeral card? We are part of the Calvin Synod, but I am > having trouble locating anything as I do not read Hungarian. > > Thanks, > > Kim > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone recommend a saying, poem, psalm in Hungarian with English translation for a funeral card? We are part of the Calvin Synod, but I am having trouble locating anything as I do not read Hungarian. Thanks, Kim

Hi, On 2017-09-28 22:05, John W. Kitz wrote: > According to one of Johannes' re-enlistment records his religious > denomination was 'reformed' and the Hungary Reformed Church > Christenings, 1624-1895[1] on FS do contain a number of Kitz' so I'll > search that film manually to see if I can find him. > > [1] > https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3AKitz&collection_id=1858355 It seems the above mentioned records can't be browsed manually as I typically do with Dutch records on FS. Does anybody happen to know if there is some way to browse these records manually? Regards, Jk.

Hi, Thanks for taking the time to look into this and getting back to me. In a German publication about the family name Kitz I found the following (I quote in German): "Die herkunft der Familie Kitz ist in Dunkel gehüllt. Durch die Jahrhunderte hat sich in der mündlichen Überlieferung lediglich erhalten, daß die Familie aus Böhmen[1,2] stammt.". [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigreich_B%C3%B6hmen [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Bohemia Which, combined with references to Hungary on the re-enlistment and death records of Johannes Kitz found in The Netherlands, adds to the notion that I need to be looking in Hungarian records. On 2017-09-28 18:13, wrote: > Hi, A quick check on familysearch finds; > > Note indexing of surname spelling is subject to interpretation - first > names are in Latin. This is the general area you may need to look if > not him. Need more help try; > > https://www.familysearch.org/search > > Religion is important to make sure you are in the right church books > if he was not Roman Catholic. According to one of Johannes' re-enlistment records his religious denomination was 'reformed' and the Hungary Reformed Church Christenings, 1624-1895[1] on FS do contain a number of Kitz' so I'll search that film manually to see if I can find him. [1] https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3AKitz&collection_id=1858355 > Name Josephus Kither > Event Type Baptism > Event Date 03 Sep 1784 > Event Place Debreczen, Hajdu, Hungary > Gender Male > Father's Name Franciscus Kither > Mother's Name Regina Verner > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AJ*%20%2Bsurname%3AKit*%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22Hajdu%2C%20Hungary%22%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1770-1800~ Even if the name of the child on the above suggestion were correct I think the name of the father and mother are to far off. > Roman Catholic Church register of births, marriages and deaths for > Debreczen > > Line Number 70 > GS Film number 639498 > Digital Folder Number 004659948 > Image Number 00216 > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-FZ97-Q2 > > Also try the Ancestry message boards for Hungary (Hajdu-Bihar). Great > help; > > https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.ceeurope.hungary.hajdu-bihar/mb.ashx > > Good Luck! Thanks and regards, Jk.