Roy - Perhaps no one at the time was persecuted as a follower if Jacob, I do not know. Certainly his teachings later caused great upsets amongst the early Dissenters from the Anglican faith. This extract is from TOPLADY AS A CONTROVERSIALIST BY REV. J. C. RYLE D.D. [Extract from his "Church Leaders of 18th century"] Found at: http://www.soft.net.uk/arden/toplady.doc . "He appears to think it impossible that an Arminian can be saved, and never shrinks with classing Arminians with Pelagians, Socinians, Papists, and heretics. He says things about Wesley and Sellon which never ought to have been said. All this is melancholy work indeed! But those who are familiar with Toplady's controversial writings know well that I am stating simple truths." Augustus Toplady had attacked John Wesley and Rev. Walter Sellon in his Arminianism: The Road to Rome! (See http://www.swrb.com/newslett/actualnls/RHNarmin.htm Mr. Sellon, moreover, reminds me (p. 128.) that, "while the shepherds are quarrelling, the wolf gets into the sheep fold;" not impossible: but it so happens, that the present quarrel is not among "the shepherds," but with the "wolf" himself; which "quarrel" is warranted by every maxim of pastoral meekness and fidelity. <snip> Should it be said, "True, this proves that Arminianism is Pelagianism revived; but it does not prove, that the doctrines of Arminianism are originally Popish:" a moment's cool attention will make it plain that they are. Wesley and Selina, Countess of Huntingdon, were very much working together until the outbreak of the Arminian controversy rent the dissenters, they held opposing views. (It was not until Rev. William Sellon, of Clerkenwell, ran her through the Ecclesiastical Courts, and won, that Selina, Countess of Huntingdon, neatly turned the tables on him by invoking the Toleration Acts and declaring herself a Dissenter, taking all her chapels with her). There was perhaps not such a further upheaval until Puseyism. Yours Aye Andrew Sellon East Anglia I solemnly believe blue and red baboons to be more popular here than Catholics and Presbyterians; they are more understood, and there is a greater disposition to do something for them. When a country squire hears of an ape, his first feeling is to give it nuts and apples; when he hears of a Dissenter, his immediate impulse is to commit it to the county jail, to shave its head, to alter its customary food, and to have it privately whipped. Rev. Sydney Smith 1771-1854, Canon of St. Paul's. From: <[email protected]> Subject: [HWE] Synod of Dordt > I wonder if anyone knows of the 'Synod of Dort' ? > > 1618 and it seems that not everyone was all excited > about this Calvinism. Especially is one were a follower > of Jacob Arminius. > > Was anyone persecuted for being one of his followers ? > > The Arminiainists had much difficulty with Beza and > Calvin, so much so that in 1610 a nifty little document > was produced 'The Remonstrance'. > > Now all you folks who are of Dutch ancestry will most > likely know of this document which was directly > opposite the thoughts of Calvinist doctrine. > > Does anyone have any information or had ancestors who > were strongly involved with the beginnings of this side > of the Reformation ? > > I do hope that there are not too many who still believe > that the Reformation was all to do with this Calvin > character, after all, it did begin before his birth and > ended long after his death. >