Hi Peter and all, From: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: [HWE] DE CHATILLON (DE COLIGNY) > Could someone please tell me when Gaspard II DE COLIGNY > was born ? One of the most respected sources for noble and royal genealogy is: Europäische Stammtafeln. An index of what is contained is here: http://www.klostermann.de/stamm/schw_reg.htm If you look under C, you will see: "Châtillon, Duc de (Coligny) XIV/62 A" That would be volume 14, table number 62A. This will, hopefully, give not only his birth date but also some ancestors and descendants. Some more information about this source is here: http://habitant.org/tools/esnotes.htm Here are some of the places it is available: http://habitant.org/tools/esloc.htm Regards, Howard [email protected]