Hi all, From: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:45 PM > Hello All, > > A snippet to add to the story is as follows, Jacqueline > DE MONTBEL, Countess of d'Entremont and of Nottage, > heiress of the branch, was born in 1541; she first > married in 1561, Claude de Batarnay, Count of Boushage, > Baron of d'Anthon, who was killed in the battle of > Saint-Denis in 1567, leaving no posterity. > Source > http://collections.ic.gc.ca/argyle/html/body_egenealogy4.htm Thanks. So, no conjugal visits while she was in prison, I guess. :) To summarize a timeline, we have -- Jacqueline's first husband dies in 1567. Gaspard's first wife dies in 1568. Jacqueline and Gaspard marry in 1571. Their dau. Beatrix is born after Gaspard dies in 1572. Jacqueline is imprisoned in 1573. (Makes me guess she was a Huguenot.) I wonder who cared for little Beatrix. But she did survive and eventually got married. Jacqueline dies in prison in 1599. (I should also note that I found several web sites claiming Jacqueline died in 1572. Clearly wrong.) I doubt she adopted anybody while in prison. I suppose that ES could be wrong, or she could have been let out only to be re-imprisoned, or she could have adopted someone while in prison (but this latter seems pretty unlikely). As it stands now, it sure appears that Jacqueline did not adopt anybody (because she was in prison at the time of the alledged adoption). This reminds me of the Anneke Jans fairy tale I mentioned earlier. One aspect of that story had her alledged grandfather, William the Silent, mentioning her in his will. However, if anyone had taken the trouble to check historical facts, they would have found that William was murdered in 1584, which was 15 to 20 years before Anneke was born. So, I'm wondering if a similar thing is at work hear: no one bothered to find out that Jacqueline was in prison at the very time she was said to be adopting someone. (Further note: William the Silent married as his 4th wife Louise de COLIGNY, the daughter of Gaspard II de COLIGNY, whom we have been discussing.) I would like to have mentioned the sources that ES used, but there were many of them listed en masse. I will mention 3, though, that might be of interest. Edmond Chevreier, La maison de Coligny au Moyen Age, Bourg (1861) Jacque Dupont, Cahiers de Saint-Louis Mme L.... P.... [sic], Etude historique sur Jacqueline de Montbel, Lyon 1901, pp 12-29; 50. I also found the following book available from the LDS: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetailsprint.asp?titleno=292719 Regards, Howard [email protected]