Hi Guys Shirley is of course right (as she always is) and if you send a query into the Society, the pedigrees they search are the original Wagner Pedigrees, plus any additions made to them after Wagner was filmed. And remember the Wagner wills, far more comprehensive than the pedigrees. Oh, and my copy of Lart arrived yesterday, thinking of putting that on CDRom myself, should be an interesting exercise. Regards Tony Fuller