Hello All and Peter and Tony :) Ah yes, dear Dr. Pangloss was right you know, he had this saying that all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds and that it had to do with cause and affect. Hmm I wonder if Frank Arouet, err Voltaire, had Huguenot ancestors ? I can see how Hug folk would have been considered heretics. I guess it must be genetic in some ways, certainly seems to have come down through my cclan :) So now I suspect that we should move along to yet another cuiosity, a musing of mine. All about that "cross over" period and folks who lived the day. Let's pick on Jean Cauvin (Calvin,) he is always fun and gets folks to rise up and put fingers to the keyboard. He was Catholic, but was he Huguenot ? I suspect one could say that he "became" that way. (Akin to catching some terrible disease back in those days.) So, Luther wasn't but he and some of his chums did take up the reformation of the Catholic cause with gusto. And yes Peter de Meazey, I did misread your words and no you didn't say that Marty Luther was. And I sure as heck did enjoy the words that you used to outline Marty's place in society. You should write a book sometime :) As for Templars, a bunch of well meaning guys who have been given the rough end of history at times, but they weren't Huguenot either, well I don't think they were ? Maybe Tony with the Knowledge, he has access to some wonderful Huguenot CD's you know, could respond with a suggestion for some fireside reading on Templars and Huguenots. Hmm is that with or without an 's' ? Cathares were not Huguenot, I think that is historically accurate and so that topic is a done deal, although they could be considered reformists even though few would have thought that their ways had much to do with the official line of reformation. Hmm who else got a mention in this most recent of exchanges on this most wonderful list, HWE? Ah yes, that Magdaleine chick. Who ? I think the character was way before Calvin and so, nope, she wasn't a heretic err I mean Huguenot. And as for Brown, he wasn't either, so lets not go there either. So folks, a fun and interesting exchnage of history and whit about things Cathare and heretic, but I do think it has run its course, unless of course we can discuss heretics and Huguenots living and breathing in the same period. Kind Regards, Peter Leroy