Peter: Cathares you say ! How I have longed for further information regarding those chums and those of the lodge (Orient). But that is for another day and another way as it does not meet the requirements of Angela the cutie concierge and this list. Marc: Ah, but it does meet those requirements. In way perhaps we have yet to plumb. The traveling methods, routes and techniques employed by the Genevan exports into the Languedoc owe much to the "Cathar Network". Local knowledge doesn't die, as they say -- it just becomes... stories. On a recent trip to NZ, I read *The Yellow Cross: The Story of the Last Cathars' Rebellion Against the Inquisition, 1290-1329* which I highly recommend....