Hello, everyone -- And a special hello to Sue who is, indeed, a distant cousin via the family lines she mentioned. Thanks for prompting me to post about these surnames, Sue! I haven't done so for a long time (shame on me). What I have posted in the past, though, is in the list archives. Not vouching for either its completeness or accurancy at this point, though, because I did post it several years ago. Now, where to start? Well, firstly, Sue, you mentioned that you're checking the Canterbury parishes/churches. I've done all of them but only in the BTs (Bishop's Transcripts) so if you're delving into the PRs, I'd be interested to know if any differing details or entries come to light. I've also searched the records of the Canterbury Walloon or Strangers' Church and the Protestant church at Guisnes (France). These names show up there plus some more popping up in London, eg. Threadneedle St. Church. Now, as for specific individuals mentioned by Sue. Firstly, Ja(c)ques OLIVE and Marie VER(R)E -- my 8x great grandparents -- married in France? Yes, probably, c1670. Haven't found that record. Jaques' father is unknown but his mother was possibly Jeanne DE BUIRE. She was identified as the mother of Abraham OLIVE in 1673 when he married Suzanne D'ESTIENVILLE at Guisnes. So perhaps Jaques and Abraham were brothers ......could be completely wrong about that, though....but certainly were contemporaries. Then on to Jaques & Marie's son, Jean (bapt 1676), which is where there's somewhat of a tangle -- at least in my notes and records -- which I haven't had the time to sort out over the last few years. Which probably explains why I haven't posted about this line. For one thing, I think that Jean was married twice, the first one being to Suzanne OLIVE on 8 Aug 1702 at Canterbury Walloon Church. And I think that Suzanne was born 2 May 1676 at Balinghuen in France and was the daughter of the above-mentioned Abraham and Suzanne (nee D'ESTIENVILLE). If she was, she and Jean may have been first cousins. Her baptism entry in the records of the Protestant Church at Guisnes says: "Mai 1676: Susanne OLLIVES, fille d'Abraham et de Suzanne D'ESTIENVILLE, bat. le 14e. P. Samuel LE SAGE. M. Madeleine PAS. N. a Balinghuen le 2e." Anyway, they had two children, both in Canterbury -- Jean in 1702 and Susane in 1704. Then, about three weeks after the youngest is born, Susanne died, apparently from childbirth complications. Her death is listed in the Canterbury Walloon records under "Morts", ie. 1704 May 8 -- "La femme de Jean OLIUE, en couche." She was buried in the Canterbury parish of St. Mildred soon afterwards, the entry saying: 1704 May 11 Burial of Susanna, wife of John Olive". Jean (John) then goes on to marry Sara BLANCHARD c1705. Possibly in France? Anyway, I haven't found a marriage record for them. And they have ten children, all in Canterbury. At least half of them died young and were also buried at Canterbury St. Mildred as were Sara and Jean himself (as John), both in 1741. Now, on to the next piece of the puzzle. Was Jean and Sara's son Jacques, born in 1711, the one who married Catherine POUT (originally LE POUTRE) in 1738 in yet another Canterbury parish, St. George's? Or was he the Jacques OLIVE bapt 1714 at the Canterbury Walloon Church, the son of another Jacques OLIVE and his wife (another) Marie, nee FEDERBE? And who was this elder Jacques? Why, he was another of the sons of Jaques and Marie, nee VERE, ie. a brother of the above-mentioned Jean. Hmmmmm....Well, at this point, eyes may be glazing over so I'll leave it at that for now. Very happy to share more details about these family lines though, and will likely do so in some subsequent posts. This will inspire me to start digging through all my info and organizing it. So, more later. And, Sue, of course, I welcome any input you may have about this. Thanks again for posting. Andrea