>Here is, as promised in my Nov 9th post ,the translation of the SAYE text from >my belgian friend: > >" The Saye family comes only from Tournai, the name doesn't exist elsewhere >in Tournaisis (the region of which Tournai is the capital). >In the name tables of Tournai , I found: >Rachel Saye born in Tournai (St-Jacques); Jehenne Saye born in Tournai >(St-Jacques) 12/13/1574 >; Jehenne Saye born in Tournai (St-Jacques) 12/13/1574; > Claude Saye born in Tournai (Ste-Catherine) 5/27/1598; >Josse Saye dead in Tournai (St-Jacques) 2/10/1547. > >Other Saye may exist in the wedding and death tables for the other Tournai >parishes. I didn't verify those. The other variations of the name Say, I >can't find them in the birth tables for the 12 parishes >of Tournai or in Valenciennes (city of the north of France called Geneva of >the north). It seems the acts in Tournai don't exist anymore because of the >1940 German bombing. >Tournai and Valenciennes were the first cities where Reform flourished. >Two french ministers ,one in each city , preached in public the Calvin >doctrine in october 1561. Tournai payed an heavy death price to Spanish >soldiers in 1568 , In Tournai , sword hanged over all heads . Many were >burnt alive. > >In Tournai, was taken to the castle Jean Sayé(Saye) , rich merchant who >had invited in his house as a guest (Philippe de Montmorency) the count of Horn. Saye was executed in >Brussels." Luc >PS in the "Petit Robert des noms propres": French dictionnary of >People and places, Tournai is "bastion du calvinisme jusqu'à son >investissement par Alexandre Farnèse en 1581" : "calvinist stronghold till >it was taken by Alexander Farnese in 1581."