Fellow listers -- Here's a challenge to you all. It was inspired by the post from John <johntev@ozemail.com.au> on 23 Oct with subject line: Some Huguenot Anecdotes. As you may remember, John (a self-confessed "list fringe dweller") found some very interesting Huguenot tidbits at his local library during their recent clean-up. Then he decided to pass this info on to the list because he thought it would be of interest. This info had nothing to do with his own research or family lines. Soooo......I've decided to challenge you, one and all, in what I've called the Musty Dusty HugsWalls Info Challenge. I hope fellow lister, Julia, doesn't mind that I've borrowed the "HugWalls" from her post on 3 Oct. Here's the challenge. Can you find and post an interesting bit of info -- it needn't be long or detailed -- re: Huguenots and/or Walloons and share it with the rest of us? Before we begin, please note -- 1) The info must be relevent to Huguenots and/or Walloons in continental Europe, and/or the UK and/or Ireland. I'm sure many of you out there have U.S. info but this would be inappropriate on this list. See previous posts on this topic in list archives, keywords: geographical focus. If you find that you have info only for U.S. locations, then wouldn't this be a great time to make a foray into areas beyond U.S. borders? It's impossible to research European ancestors without doing this. 2) When passing on info from a published source, please be aware of copyright. You can quote some of the contents in their entirety and also paraphrase other sections in your own words. But to quote all or almost all, word-for-word, would be a copyright violation. If you are passing on a post from another list, be aware that copyright also applies here. You must get the author's permission to do so. 3) Think carefully about your subject line before sending your post. Ready? Set? Go!! Search your book shelves! Visit your local library or archives! Dust off that trunk in the attic! Sift through your accumulation of papers! See if your local FHC holds any information! Be alert for book sales! Trawl through the archives of other lists! Haunt used book stores! Investigate the far reaches of the Net! Ask friends for sources! Pounce on piles of musty papers at garage sales/boot sales! Any other sources you can think of!? Remember, this does not necessarily have to be about your own family research. Don't forget to tell us where you found the information. There is no time limit to this Challenge so you can send in posts on this topic whenever you find something interesting, starting now and at any time into the future. (But don't wait too long <g>. Seize the day!). Eagerly awaiting reponses to this Challenge, Andrea

I thought I'd share this TRULY IRISH Hug approach to history from my own FH in response to Andrea's challenge. I'm descended from the Germaine family of Co. Carlow/ Kildare/ Wicklow, who seem to have got there from the Netherlands via England some time after 1700. At any rate, here's the story. First story: (paraphrased): The Freeman's Journal ? Jan. 1886 ? ( undated printed extract sent to me) carried an Obit for Philip Germaine d. Jan 4 aged 93 at Dublin, late of Lisnevagh Manor, (Rathvilley) Co. Carlow. He is described as a very prominent actor in the tithe war.Under the *despotism* of British administration Philip Germaine 50 years ago was dragged down from a substantial farmer to a pauper. His farm stock was seized for tithes, he was turned adrift from a few hundred acres of land and the houses he had built were seized without compensation. (Then follows much abuse heaped by the writer on the British Govt). The story goes on to relate what appears to be a recent interview with Mr Germaine shortly before his death at age 93, in which he told of his history and how in 1830 he was a wealthy farmer living on land his family had occupied (rented) in Lisnevagh for at least a century.When the Tithe war (against payment for the maintenance of an alien, i.e. Church of Ireland, ecclestiastical system), extended into Co. Carlow, Mr Germaine was said to be the local leader. He went on *with great clearness*(!) to tell the reporter how his cattle were seized in 1832 and taken to the pound to be sold to pay the tithe of L1,100. He said it was like a rebellion, with the Army all through the country and immense crowds at the seizure and the sale. However no-one would bid for the cattle which had to be driven back to his lands. *Fully 3000 people assembled on my farms and cheered and blew horns, and the mountains were covered with bonfires to give me encouragement*. However shortly after this the landlord evicted him from his farms as he had no lease, and he was never compensated for the improvements he had made. (I must say I felt quite proud to be descended from this rebellious family!) The second story is from a printed article by P.J. Kavanagh, M.A., entitled * Rathvilly's Contribution to the Tithe War*, unfortunately unsourced, and given to me in Ireland in 1990. This article is well documented, with references to newspapers and a range of magistrates' and police reports, and therefore has decent credibility despite its lack of provenance. The article reports on various incidents involving police and tithe resisters in 1836 and 1837 in Carlow, and refers to an incident in August 1837 where cattle belonging to Thomas Germaine of Tobinstown had been seized for tithes owing. Apparently seven bailiffs who had been placed in charge of the seized propery were turned out of the house and threatened with death by a crowd of 200. *The people took Germaine's property for safekeeping...even though he is a man not universally liked in this neighbourhood...* There seems to have been much blowing of horns to gather the crowds on this occasion too. Are these two separate stories about different incidents, involving different members of the Germaine family ? Or are they the same story remembered/ reported differently ? Has Philip (b.1792/3) given us a much embellished version of the original Thomas story, since he outlived his (?) elder brotherThomas (b.c.1791/2, d. 1872) and could claim his fame ? My somewhat hypothetical family tree has more people named Thomas Germaine than you could cock a snook at, so its pretty much guesswork whether this is the right one. I'm Irish enough not to have researched this any further, but merely laughed at them both. Maybe the time has come to dig a bit deeper... Any ideas ? Regards, Kaye Cole in Melbourne Andrea Vogel wrote: > Fellow listers -- > Here's a challenge to you all. It was inspired by the post from > John <johntev@ozemail.com.au> on 23 Oct with subject line: Some > Huguenot Anecdotes. > As you may remember, John (a self-confessed "list fringe dweller") > found some very interesting Huguenot tidbits at his local library > during their recent clean-up. Then he decided to pass this info on to > the list because he thought it would be of interest. This info had > nothing to do with his own research or family lines. > > Soooo......I've decided to challenge you, one and all, in what > I've called the Musty Dusty HugsWalls Info Challenge. I hope fellow > lister, Julia, doesn't mind that I've borrowed the "HugWalls" from her > post on 3 Oct. > Here's the challenge. Can you find and post an interesting bit of > info -- it needn't be long or detailed -- re: Huguenots and/or > Walloons and share it with the rest of us? > Before we begin, please note -- > 1) The info must be relevent to Huguenots and/or Walloons in > continental Europe, and/or the UK and/or Ireland. I'm sure many of you > out there have U.S. info but this would be inappropriate on this list. > See previous posts on this topic in list archives, keywords: > geographical focus. > If you find that you have info only for U.S. locations, then > wouldn't this be a great time to make a foray into areas beyond U.S. > borders? It's impossible to research European ancestors without doing > this. > 2) When passing on info from a published source, please be aware of > copyright. You can quote some of the contents in their entirety and > also paraphrase other sections in your own words. But to quote all or > almost all, word-for-word, would be a copyright violation. > If you are passing on a post from another list, be aware that > copyright also applies here. You must get the author's permission to > do so. > 3) Think carefully about your subject line before sending your post. > > Ready? Set? Go!! > Search your book shelves! > Visit your local library or archives! > Dust off that trunk in the attic! > Sift through your accumulation of papers! > See if your local FHC holds any information! > Be alert for book sales! > Trawl through the archives of other lists! > Haunt used book stores! > Investigate the far reaches of the Net! > Ask friends for sources! > Pounce on piles of musty papers at garage sales/boot sales! > Any other sources you can think of!? > > Remember, this does not necessarily have to be about your own > family research. Don't forget to tell us where you found the > information. > There is no time limit to this Challenge so you can send in posts > on this topic whenever you find something interesting, starting now > and at any time into the future. (But don't wait too long <g>. Seize > the day!). > Eagerly awaiting reponses to this Challenge, Andrea > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Under construction: web page for Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list! > Information, links, surnames! Got ideas and contributions? > Please post to the list or to list admin, Andrea (andreav@island.net) > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/search > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!