Listers -- for those researching in Canterbury, Kent, ENG, here is some info which may be new to you. In c1709-10, some of the members of the Canterbury Walloon Church broke away from that congregation to form their own church which was called "the Malt-house" Chapel. I have no idea why it was called "the Malt-house" because it was located within the precincts of the Cathedral (as was the main Walloon Church). Can any other listers help out with further info about the origins of this name? There may have been theological reasons for this break but one point of disagreement seems to have been that the Walloon Church did not provide financial support/relief to some church members, as they had apparently done before. The records of the Malt-house are on LDS film # 1482451. This is a filmed copy of the original contemporary records which are held at the PRO (Public Record Office) in London. They date from 1710 to 1745 but contain mostly baptisms. There are only one or two marriage records and no burials/deaths at all. After being spoiled by the indexed records published by the Hug. Soc. of London (ie. the Quarto series), I confess that I found it a bit of a different challenge to go through these records! I'll be posting various bits of info from these records over the next while, because I think they may be of interest and help to other listers. On the first page of the records is the following form (which is printed, but with blanks filled by handwritten info). It was probably required to be completed by all such non-parochial churches (ie. those not of the established Church of England). I have indicated by quotation marks which parts were filled in by hand. Certificate or Statement to accompany Register Books as recommended in the Circular. To the Commissioners for inquiring into the State, Custody and Authenticity of Non-parochial Registers. The annexed or accompanying Book is the original Register Book of "Marriages and Baptisms of the conformist French Chapel commonly called the 'Malt-house'" which has been kept for the Chapel or Meeting house, called "The Malt-house", being of the "Episcopal Church" denomination, situate in "the precincts of Canterbury Cathedral" in the county of "Kent", founded about the year "unknown, now dissolved, when unknown" (the word "when" is underlined here). The Book sent has been from time to time in the custody of the "scribe" for the time being of the Congregation; and is sent to the Commissioners from the immediate custody of "the same persons who held the register of the Walloon congregation" of "the Cathedral Undercroft" in the "City of Canterbury" who have kept it since "1817" as "Minister of the Walloon congregation and depository". Signed 12 Sept 1837. J. F. MIEVILLE (?), Minister. Charles NOBLIETTE(?), Elder. (Note that both signatures above are unclear because of the handwriting.) The next page which follows the form above is entirely handwritten. Some of it is unreadable because words are obscured around the dark edges (as I've indicated below). It seems to indicate that Jean CHERPENTIER is petitioning the Archbishop of Canterbury to become Minister of the Malt-house Chapel, although the Chapel is not mentioned specifically. Does anyone else have another interpretation? "Canterbury, ye 4th A......(dark edge) A true Copy of the petition of Mr. Jo.....(dark edge) Presented to his Grace ye Most Reverend ?Fau?.......(dark edge) God Lord Archbishop of Canterbury. May it Please Your Grace. Your petitioner, John CHERPENTIER, humbly Sheweth: First, that he is Naturalized. 2dly, That he hath good Certificats of ye Integrity of his Doctrine, and of his honest behaviour. 3dly, That he hath a good Title. 4dly, That he hath been a Minister of ye Gospel and exercised his Ministery With Edification and approbation for five and ..... (dark edge) years together; that his family hath suffered very much....... (dark edge) Protestant Religion, especially his father who was put to Death by ye Dragoons and dyed a Martyr in ye year 16..... (dark edge). Lastly, that he hath waited upon your Grace three times from Canterbury hither, with great trouble, and great Charges, being but an Infirme body; all which maketh your petitioner hope ?that? (dark edge) your Grace will be pleased to Cause him to be admitted ?to the? (dark edge) order of Priesthood; that he might by these means of providence maintain his family; and your Petitioner......(dark edge) Pray for your Grace, etc." Comment: down at bottom left of this statement is written: "J.C. in London". (Which presumably means that Jean CHERPENTIER in London had a copy?) Also included on this page is the following additional statement: "The following Certificat was sent ye 13th August to John CHERPENTIER at London who by a letter of ye 18th ......... (dark edge) wrott to P. L., delivered it to Mr. DE GATINE, and gave copies to severall amongst ym., one to Mr. FRUSCHARD, at ye Bottom of ye sd. CHERPENTIER wrott to have delivered ye original into ye hands of ye sd. M. DE GATINE ye 14th Inst. A true Copy. August ye 12th 1710: these are to Certify that a great Number of french Refugees have made several repeated Complaints before me in open court; that ye Elders and Deacons of ye Walloon Congregation Would not relieve ym. as they asked to do; since they have frequented ye New french Church Lately sett up here. (Signed) Edw. FENDALL, mayor of Canterbury." (At the bottom corner, it says: "J.C. at London".) That's all on the Malt-house Chapel for now. More in future posts. I hope some of you have found this interesting. Andrea

Hi: I note that the info quoted by Andrea states that the malt-house chapel was situate in the precincts of Canterbury Cathedral. The Precincts, as I understand it, is the area within the walls which surround the Cathedral grounds. Having visited Canterbury Cathedral years ago on a number of occasions I know that this covers a large area and includes a number of buildings apart from the Cathedral itself. Just inside the main gate into the precinct are a number of buildings on the left where there were souvenirs shops, etc. when I last visited. Thus the malt-house chapel may not have been inside the Cathedral itself but rather in the grounds. I have a few souvenir booklets which contain limited info about the Cathedral but none of them mention the malt-house chapel. Perhaps a larger book on the Cathedral would have more details. However I looked in another book "The Explorer's Guide to the Abbeys, Monasteries and Churches of Great Britain". It states under Malthouse "A necessary facility for the production of the staple drink of beer and provided within the precincts, together with its associated kiln. It was usually located in the outer court but as such buildings were normally timber-framed, their existence is indicated only in records." This description refers to Abbeys but perhaps the same would be true of the Cathedral. Could there have been a malt house in the precinct of the Cathedral at one time and it was that building that was turned over to the breakaway congregation? A map of Canterbury c1700 (partly based on Doidge, 1752) clearly shows numerous buildings within the precinct of the Cathedral. The accompanying notes state that Christ Church Priory had been replaced by a Dean and 12 prebends (the house and garden of each of these canons is shown on the map). These 12 houses are shown on the map within the walls of the Cathedral grounds along with a stables and other buildings. Cheers. Janis London, Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: September 29, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: [HWE] Malt-house Chapel, Canterbury, Kent, ENG > Listers -- for those researching in Canterbury, Kent, ENG, here is some > info which may be new to you. > In c1709-10, some of the members of the Canterbury Walloon Church broke > away from that congregation to form their own church which was called "the > Malt-house" Chapel. > I have no idea why it was called "the Malt-house" because it was located > within the precincts of the Cathedral (as was the main Walloon Church). Can > any other listers help out with further info about the origins of this name? > There may have been theological reasons for this break but one point > of disagreement seems to have been that the Walloon Church did not provide > financial support/relief to some church members, as they had apparently done > before. > The records of the Malt-house are on LDS film # 1482451. This is a > filmed copy of the original contemporary records which are held at the PRO > (Public Record Office) in London. They date from 1710 to 1745 but contain > mostly baptisms. There are only one or two marriage records and no > burials/deaths at all. After being spoiled by the indexed records published > by the Hug. Soc. of London (ie. the Quarto series), I confess that I found > it a bit of a different challenge to go through these records! > I'll be posting various bits of info from these records over the next > while, because I think they may be of interest and help to other listers. > > On the first page of the records is the following form (which is > printed, but with blanks filled by handwritten info). It was probably > required to be completed by all such non-parochial churches (ie. those not > of the established Church of England). I have indicated by quotation marks > which parts were filled in by hand. > > Certificate or Statement to accompany Register Books as recommended in > the Circular. > To the Commissioners for inquiring into the State, Custody and > Authenticity of Non-parochial Registers. > The annexed or accompanying Book is the original Register Book of > "Marriages and Baptisms of the conformist French Chapel commonly called the > 'Malt-house'" which has been kept for the Chapel or Meeting house, called > "The Malt-house", being of the "Episcopal Church" denomination, situate in > "the precincts of Canterbury Cathedral" in the county of "Kent", founded > about the year "unknown, now dissolved, when unknown" (the word "when" is > underlined here). > The Book sent has been from time to time in the custody of the "scribe" > for the time being of the Congregation; and is sent to the Commissioners > from the immediate custody of "the same persons who held the register of the > Walloon congregation" of "the Cathedral Undercroft" in the "City of > Canterbury" who have kept it since "1817" as "Minister of the Walloon > congregation and depository". Signed 12 Sept 1837. J. F. MIEVILLE (?), > Minister. Charles NOBLIETTE(?), Elder. (Note that both signatures above are > unclear because of the handwriting.) > > > The next page which follows the form above is entirely handwritten. Some > of it is unreadable because words are obscured around the dark edges (as > I've indicated below). It seems to indicate that Jean CHERPENTIER is > petitioning the Archbishop of Canterbury to become Minister of the > Malt-house Chapel, although the Chapel is not mentioned specifically. Does > anyone else have another interpretation? > > > "Canterbury, ye 4th A......(dark edge) > A true Copy of the petition of Mr. Jo.....(dark edge) Presented to his > Grace ye Most Reverend ?Fau?.......(dark edge) God Lord Archbishop of > Canterbury. May it Please Your Grace. > Your petitioner, John CHERPENTIER, humbly Sheweth: > First, that he is Naturalized. > 2dly, That he hath good Certificats of ye Integrity of his Doctrine, and > of his honest behaviour. > 3dly, That he hath a good Title. > 4dly, That he hath been a Minister of ye Gospel and exercised his > Ministery With Edification and approbation for five and ..... (dark edge) > years together; that his family hath suffered very much....... (dark edge) > Protestant Religion, especially his father who was put to Death by ye > Dragoons and dyed a Martyr in ye year 16..... (dark edge). > Lastly, that he hath waited upon your Grace three times from Canterbury > hither, with great trouble, and great Charges, being but an Infirme body; > all which maketh your petitioner hope ?that? (dark edge) your Grace will be > pleased to Cause him to be admitted ?to the? (dark edge) order of > Priesthood; that he might by these means of providence maintain his family; > and your Petitioner......(dark edge) Pray for your Grace, etc." > Comment: down at bottom left of this statement is written: "J.C. in > London". (Which presumably means that Jean CHERPENTIER in London had a > copy?) > > Also included on this page is the following additional statement: > > "The following Certificat was sent ye 13th August to John CHERPENTIER at > London who by a letter of ye 18th ......... (dark edge) wrott to P. L., > delivered it to Mr. DE GATINE, and gave copies to severall amongst ym., one > to Mr. FRUSCHARD, at ye Bottom of ye sd. CHERPENTIER wrott to have delivered > ye original into ye hands of ye sd. M. DE GATINE ye 14th Inst. A true Copy. > August ye 12th 1710: these are to Certify that a great Number of french > Refugees have made several repeated Complaints before me in open court; that > ye Elders and Deacons of ye Walloon Congregation Would not relieve ym. as > they asked to do; since they have frequented ye New french Church Lately > sett up here. (Signed) Edw. FENDALL, mayor of Canterbury." > (At the bottom corner, it says: "J.C. at London".) > > That's all on the Malt-house Chapel for now. More in future posts. I > hope some of you have found this interesting. Andrea > > ______________________________