Bob, Yet more information on the above. I have found 205 references to the name Le Fay at the Paris bibliotheque and on checking the first 86 have found the following 1. The name Fay de La Tour is mentioned in a publication entitled "Maubourg - Illustrations de Jean Paret" 2. There is a publication "Genealogie des Fay de La Tour Maubourg 14-18 siècle" 3. Another publication entitled " Les huit quartiers du l'ordre de Malte au grande prieure d'Auvergne" includes references to a Fay de Geriande and a Fay de La Tour Maubourg. If you think it worthwhile I will happily go through the remaining references and see what they produce. Roy