Barbara Holt in NZ wrote: "...Muir's Historical Atlas...a map of Western and Central Europe 1555-1648. This covers the period when Jan Clement from Erquinghem-sur-Lys, married in Southampton, England (1571). The map clearly shows that Lille and its surrounding area were then in the Spanish Netherlands." Dear Barbara and all other listmembers, many of my huguenot ancestors are fom the same area in former Spanish Netherlands - Flandres. And I had also the problem of finding any detailed maps of France in the net. So after I had a definite place-name, I looked for the Tourist-Information sites of that area and send them a friendly e-mail written in English with the request for information material and maps. Who knows I might go there to see where my ancestors came from. So last week I got a very detailed map from Nord-Pas de Calais area of France mailed for free to my house. There are two internet adresses on that map: www.maison-nord-pas-de-calais.tm.fr and www.cr-npdc.fr The map is from the "Region Nord Pas de Calais - conseil regional", and the funny part, the person in charge of that is Michel Delebarre and I'm searching for the name DE LA BARRE (besides many others as posted earlier on this list). The place Erquinghem sur la Lys is on the map and in France. It is located just southwest of Armentieres, looks like a suburb of that city (at the border to Belgium). The Lys is a river. Erquinghem sur la Lys is just between the railroad line and the autoroute from Lille to Calais. There is another Erquinghem le Sec just west of Lille, as far as I know "sec" means dry (you know from the wine bottles), so there is no river near this other one. "...I wonder if anyone knows a good source in English for me to read up about events in the Spanish Netherlands?..." For the historic background of Spanish Netherlands in 17th century look into a good encyclopedia. Spain had under Phillip IV (1621-65) different wars with the Netherlands and France. In the peace of Westfalia 1648 it lost the Northern Netherlands, in the peace of Pyrenean the Artois, and in 1668-78 it finally lost Flandres to France. The former protestant region thus became catholic again and the huguenots had to flee. I hope this will help you. I can mail a copy of the part of the map if you send me an e-mail adress. Ina Friling

Dear Barbara and list I read "The Dutch Republic, It's Rise, Greatness and Fall 1477-1806" by Jonathan I Israel. This book covers much of Flanders and the Low Countries which at one time or another part of the Netherlands and Spanish Netherlands. It has a lot of info on the Spanish Netherlands, the wars and treaties. It is a good source of info for those who are wanting insights into the Reformed and Huguenot persecution. I had ancestors who left Cologne very early, then Antwerp to Amsterdam, everytime they relocated it was caused by the Spanish capturing these areas Marty > "...I wonder if anyone knows a good source in English for me to > read up about > events in the Spanish Netherlands?..." > > For the historic background of Spanish Netherlands in 17th > century look into > a good encyclopedia. Spain had under Phillip IV (1621-65) > different wars with > the Netherlands and France. In the peace of Westfalia 1648 it lost the > Northern Netherlands, in the peace of Pyrenean the Artois, and in > 1668-78 it > finally lost Flandres to France. The former protestant region thus became > catholic again and the huguenots had to flee. > I hope this will help you. > I can mail a copy of the part of the map if you send me an e-mail adress. > Ina Friling > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Announcing new web site for Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list! > Lots of information, links to other sites, surnames list! > Visit the web site at: http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html > > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >