Barbara, Baruch Spinoza,the philosopher was from Jewish portuguese family in Holland. Portugal and Spain at that time were in the same kingdom from 1580 to 1668 . Luc -----Message d'origine----- De : Barbara Holt <BHHolt@xtra.co.nz> À : HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Date : 29 janvier, 2001 16:08 Objet : [HWE] Re: Spanish Netherlands >Dear Marty > >Re: >I had ancestors who left Cologne very early, then Antwerp to Amsterdam, >>everytime they relocated it was caused by the Spanish capturing these areas >> >Thank you very much for your most helpful and interesting message. I will >try to get hold of Johnathan Israel's book on the Dutch republic. I believe >my ancestor Jan Clement may have gone to Holland from Spain originally, as >part of the wave of Spanish Jews who left Spain for different parts of >Europe between 1200 to 1600, on account of the Spanish Inquisition. I >understand most victims of the S.I. (in 1478) were former Jews who had been >forced to convert to Christianity in the 13th century and some of the >Inquisitors were also former Jews. (See Stan Mack's "The Story of the >ews - A 4,000 Year Adventure", Villard, New York, 1998.) > >This theory of my Spanish Jewish origins ( based at present on my family's >looks ) would help to explain why Jan Clement ( an orphan) escaped from the >Spanish Netherlands to England before 1571. Since then my Clements family >kept on moving, first to Ireland, and then, in the 19th century, to New >Zealand. I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows of any >research about Jews who escaped to Holland from Spain in the period >1200-1600. > >Barbara Holt > > > >==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== >Announcing new web site for Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list! >Lots of information, links to other sites, surnames list! >Visit the web site at: http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > >