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    1. Freedom
    2. Martin
    3. Hi I agree with the notion that The Reformation encouraged people to escape the limitations imposed by the Pope and Catholic orthodoxy etc., and thus helped to bring about a freer world. What about the descendants of the Huguenots, are they still believers in the literal truth of the Bible, or has their independence of mind, inevitably, taken them more in the direction of agnosticism? How do you see your ancestors? If you could speak with them, do you think you could find common ground? Martin. -- Martin moslins1@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...

    03/06/2006 12:29:47
    1. disputations
    2. Martin asked: Do you think Huguenot ancestors were, by nature, an argumentative bunch and therefore inclined to question the then current orthodoxy,relying, as they did, on the original text of the Bible, even at the risk of losing their worldly goods etc ? Jaquez Leferve in the 1400's wrote a letter to the Pope basically stating that the public have the right to read, and interpret the Bible for themselves. He was burned at the stake. He is one of my ancestors. I think that we take for granted some of the things others gave their very lives for. Can you imagine being put to death to day because you want to read a book, be it the Bible or any other text? Shoot, the very fact that most of can read, is something many of our ancestors were not able to do. Woman, did go to school and so on... Personally I am glad for the Leferve's, Luthers, Calvins, of the world perhaps they were headstrong even arguementive, but some of the freedoms I enjoy today are because of these leaders. Do I show these tendencies, yes! but can I blame my character or lack thereof on my ancestors? I am not going there! yep part chicken as well! Phyl

    03/03/2006 06:56:01
    1. Re: [HWE] disputations
    2. Lesley Pinchbeck
    3. Yes!! and members of present day my family and ancestors Lesley Pinchbeck ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin <moslins1@fastmail.fm> Subject: [HWE] disputations Do you think our Huguenot ancestors were, by nature, an argumentative bunch and therefore inclined to question the then current orthodoxy, < > even at the risk of losing their worldly goods etc ? If so, can anybody detect a similar genetic tendency in themselves? Martin moslins1@fastmail.fm http://www.fastmail.fm ...

    03/03/2006 04:24:32
    1. Re: [HWE] Pay and regret?
    2. Andrew Sellon
    3. Martin wrote: >I was recently sent an email by a company called, "Traceit", which >claims that it is confident that it can trace my family back to at least >the 14th and 15th centuries, through the records which are in their [the >company's] possession ! I think that this is highly unlikely. However, >should I pay to satisfy my curiosity and almost certainly be >disappointed or should I resist this impulse? > > Martin - RESIST. Do not fall for natural temptation and curiosity. Spammers depend on us poor mutts replying to such messages. It is part of becoming web savvy learning not to succumb to such blandishments. Consign them immediately to your 'junk' file. Pay and you will regret, (I am 99.5 per cent certain - do you wish to risk the 0.5 per cent chance?). Yours Aye Andrew Sellon

    03/03/2006 02:04:03
    1. Re: A few sous down the drain
    2. Martin
    3. > > > > Hi > > > > > > I agree entirely, but one is, nevertheless, sometimes tempted as the > > various Huguenot societies cannot provide much information about [or are > > not much interested in] the period prior to the Reformation. On the > > question of delusions of grandeur; I suppose most of us have at least > > one, probably apocryphal, ancestor, who, according to family lore, was > > [if not quite a Plantagenet or a Valois] at least a member of the lesser > > gentry - too bad if he turns out to be the village farrier ! Well, a > > farrier who could read [The Bible] at least. > > -- > > Martin > > moslins1@fastmail.fm > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class > > > -- > Martin > moslins1@fastmail.fm > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin > -- Martin moslins1@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class

    03/02/2006 03:36:49
    1. Re: [HWE] Off-List Please!
    2. mary scott
    3. Just one more time, Andrea, then I don't care what you do with your list. I have not made any mistakes and I want everyone to know that. Here is where I signed up for this list and here is where I expect to unsubscribe like I do with all the other lists. > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-French/HUGUENOT-WALLOON.html I didn't even know the address you have below in your message existed. As you can see the above is at Rootsweb. Thank you, PS: This IS a part of genealogical research. . Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: [HWE] Off-List Please! > Hello -- > > It is unfortunate that the list has become > a venue to air one's frustrations about not > being able to unsubscribe successfully. > Please, let's keep the list for posts about Huguenot/Walloon genealogy. > > I will personally (and privately) contact > all those who have posted about > unsubscribing difficulties and will assist > all of you as soon as I can. > In the meantime, would everyone who > is having similar difficulties -- > 1) *not* post to the list about it > 2) instead contact me *privately*, ie. > *not on the list*. > > I can be reached at my personal > e-mail address (andreav@island.net) > or at my HWE admin address which is > Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-admin@rootsweb.com. > > There is usually a very straightforward > reason why an unsubscribe request is > not successful, ie. the instructions as > outlined on our website here: > http://www.island.net/~andreav/unsub.htm > are not being followed. I have rarely, if > ever, encountered a situation when > difficulties occurred for any other > reason. (But I could always be proven > wrong about that! <smile>) > > Please keep in mind that the list is > for genealogy. Before sending > something to the list, ask yourself if it > has any genealogical content. > *If it doesn't, don't send it.*

    03/02/2006 02:13:31
    1. Re: [HWE] Pay and regret?
    2. > However, > should I pay to satisfy my curiosity and almost certainly be > disappointed or should I resist this impulse? > > Martin. In short, No ! In lengthy response... No! if they did just happen to have your particular family records dating back to the 14th century then your name must be Tudor or Valois perhaps ? It is highly unlikely that such records would be in one source. For instance, unless you claim some ever so slight connection to minor nobility in France, then the records would be rare for that far back. The again if your ancestors did something to make them rise above the masses, then some mention in local records, which would be in old French, may be possible. Assuming that the company is an American registered company, then in that case definitely not. If you are searching for your Huguenot ancestors, then there are several other opportunities open to you. The various Huguenot societies, either in Great Britain or the U.S. or a few genealogical societies in France, Holland and Germany. Perhaps you would like to send me a few sous and I will send you your very own family coat of arms, yet another way of having fellow hobbyists part with their money for no real use. Just my opinions Kind Regards, Peter Leroy

    03/02/2006 02:03:43
    1. Pay and regret?
    2. Martin
    3. Hi again I was recently sent an email by a company called, "Traceit", which claims that it is confident that it can trace my family back to at least the 14th and 15th centuries, through the records which are in their [the company's] possession ! I think that this is highly unlikely. However, should I pay to satisfy my curiosity and almost certainly be disappointed or should I resist this impulse? Martin. -- Martin moslins1@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class

    03/02/2006 01:40:59
    1. disputations
    2. Martin
    3. Hi Do you think our Huguenot ancestors were, by nature, an argumentative bunch and therefore inclined to question the then current orthodoxy, relying, as they did, on the original text of the Bible, even at the risk of losing their worldly goods etc ? If so, can anybody detect a similar genetic tendency in themselves? Regards martin. -- Martin moslins1@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...

    03/02/2006 01:08:19
    1. Re: [HWE] Off-List Please!
    2. mary scott wrote : >and here is where I expect to unsubscribe like I do > with all the other lists. > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-French/HUGUENOT-WALLOON.html Ah ! wrong url to begin with for this Huguenot-Walloon-Europe mailing list. Rootsweb should get their act together and not allow similar named lists. But I am sure the wonderful Andrea has all under control and so I shall mull over a nice wine. Now there is a question, were our Huguenot ancestors in the wine trade ? I know my current relatives are. Kind Regards, Peter Leroy

    03/02/2006 12:12:34
    1. Off-List Please!
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Hello -- It is unfortunate that the list has become a venue to air one's frustrations about not being able to unsubscribe successfully. Please, let's keep the list for posts about Huguenot/Walloon genealogy. I will personally (and privately) contact all those who have posted about unsubscribing difficulties and will assist all of you as soon as I can. In the meantime, would everyone who is having similar difficulties -- 1) *not* post to the list about it 2) instead contact me *privately*, ie. *not on the list*. I can be reached at my personal e-mail address (andreav@island.net) or at my HWE admin address which is Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-admin@rootsweb.com. There is usually a very straightforward reason why an unsubscribe request is not successful, ie. the instructions as outlined on our website here: http://www.island.net/~andreav/unsub.htm are not being followed. I have rarely, if ever, encountered a situation when difficulties occurred for any other reason. (But I could always be proven wrong about that! <smile>) Please keep in mind that the list is for genealogy. Before sending something to the list, ask yourself if it has any genealogical content. *If it doesn't, don't send it.* And, yes, I do myself sometimes post about things non-genealogical. As the list admin, I am able to do that but do so only for the purpose of keeping the list running smoothly. It seems that in this case, though, the opposite of what I intended has happened. And to everyone out there who is anxious to bid adeiu to HWE but can't manage to do so, please hang on. I will be along to assist you soon. Regards, Andrea (HWE list concierge)

    03/02/2006 10:24:06
    1. Fw: [HWE] Re: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D Digest V06 #21
    2. MICHAUD
    3. i'M STILL RECEIVING MAIL although I have previously unsubscribed...is there anything different I can do? Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry" <destaercke@centurytel.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: [HWE] Re: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D Digest V06 #21 >I would like to unscribe. Thanks for all the help. Jerry De Staercke > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:00 AM > Subject: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D Digest V06 #21 > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Be a participating subscriber! Post your surname interests often. > Once a month is about right, or more often if you have new details. > Address your post to Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    03/02/2006 09:29:52
    1. Re: [HWE] How to Unsubscribe
    2. MICHAUD
    3. i'VE sent about three "unsubscribe" messages - but I still keep getting messages, including messages on how to unsubscribe. Like Mary I have followed your instructions, but mail keeps coming through - including Mary's. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "mary scott" <mrscott517@adelphia.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [HWE] How to Unsubscribe > This is the second time in two days you have sent this message. I know > where to go to unsubscribe and have done so several times now for THIS > list. I'm going to start saving my sent messages and send them to you. > SOMETHING IS APPARENTLY WRONG...and this certainly isn't the only list I > have been subscribed to. You stated yesterday that I was unsubscribed but > I'm not, am I? > Mary Scott > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> > To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:56 PM > Subject: [HWE] How to Unsubscribe > > >> Hello, listers -- >> >> This is a reminder that, should you wish >> to unsubscribe from (leave) this mailing list, >> sending your request as a message to the >> list -- ie. to all the several hundred other >> subscribers -- will not unsubscribe you. >> There is a different procedure you must >> follow for unsubscribing. This is true not >> only for this list but for all the thousands >> of other Rootsweb lists. >> For complete instructions on how >> to unsubscribe, please see this page >> on our HWE website: >> http://www.island.net/~andreav/unsub.htm. >> These same instructions were also >> included in the welcome message which >> all of you received when you first >> subscribed -- which is one reason why >> it's recommended that the welcome >> message be saved for future reference. >> Regards, Andrea (HWE list concierge) >> >> >> >> >> ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== >> Messages posted to this (or any)list are the property of their writers. >> Therefore, if you want to forward or use info seen on a mailing list, >> first obtain the permission of the person who wrote it. >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > HWE list has two archives you can search. > Access both archives through the list website at: > http://www.island.net/~andreav/archives.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    03/02/2006 09:21:26
    1. Re: [HWE] How to Unsubscribe
    2. mary scott
    3. This is the second time in two days you have sent this message. I know where to go to unsubscribe and have done so several times now for THIS list. I'm going to start saving my sent messages and send them to you. SOMETHING IS APPARENTLY WRONG...and this certainly isn't the only list I have been subscribed to. You stated yesterday that I was unsubscribed but I'm not, am I? Mary Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: [HWE] How to Unsubscribe > Hello, listers -- > > This is a reminder that, should you wish > to unsubscribe from (leave) this mailing list, > sending your request as a message to the > list -- ie. to all the several hundred other > subscribers -- will not unsubscribe you. > There is a different procedure you must > follow for unsubscribing. This is true not > only for this list but for all the thousands > of other Rootsweb lists. > For complete instructions on how > to unsubscribe, please see this page > on our HWE website: > http://www.island.net/~andreav/unsub.htm. > These same instructions were also > included in the welcome message which > all of you received when you first > subscribed -- which is one reason why > it's recommended that the welcome > message be saved for future reference. > Regards, Andrea (HWE list concierge) > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Messages posted to this (or any)list are the property of their writers. > Therefore, if you want to forward or use info seen on a mailing list, > first obtain the permission of the person who wrote it. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

    03/02/2006 07:50:02
    1. Re: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D Digest V06 #21
    2. Jerry
    3. I would like to unscribe. Thanks for all the help. Jerry De Staercke ----- Original Message ----- From: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D Digest V06 #21

    03/02/2006 04:18:26
    1. How to Unsubscribe
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Hello, listers -- This is a reminder that, should you wish to unsubscribe from (leave) this mailing list, sending your request as a message to the list -- ie. to all the several hundred other subscribers -- will not unsubscribe you. There is a different procedure you must follow for unsubscribing. This is true not only for this list but for all the thousands of other Rootsweb lists. For complete instructions on how to unsubscribe, please see this page on our HWE website: http://www.island.net/~andreav/unsub.htm. These same instructions were also included in the welcome message which all of you received when you first subscribed -- which is one reason why it's recommended that the welcome message be saved for future reference. Regards, Andrea (HWE list concierge)

    03/02/2006 02:56:29
    1. Another Guideline Reminder
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Hello, everyone -- Since the problem continues to occur on HWE, I am re-posting a message concerning one of our list guidelines which I last sent to the list less than two weeks go, on 17 Feb. Here is what I said at that time: ".......Please help to cut down on the amount of previously posted material being sent, quite unneccessarily, back to the list multiple times. You can do this by following the advice in one of our HWE guidelines (see below)....... This is HWE guideline number five: 'When replying to a previous post by another subscriber, it's important to: a) delete most or all of that previous post in your reply, b) make sure the subject line is appropriate, changing it if necessary and c) place a short summary or <snip> of the previous message at the beginning of your reply. Reason: a) Deleting previously posted material eliminates duplication of information, both on the list and in the list archives. b) Subject lines should match message content. c) A summary or <snip> lets others know immediately what you are talking about. It's a reminder of the previous post and brings new subscribers into the discussion without them wondering what it's all about.' All of our list guidelines are on the HWE website here (in four different languages): http://www.island.net/~andreav/hweguide.htm. I'd sure appreciate everyone's cooperation with this guideline. It takes only a few seconds to use your delete key. Best regards, Andrea (your list concierge)

    03/01/2006 06:15:31
    1. Re: Huguenots and Trade Restrictions
    2. Hey, My ancestor's shop was just beyond the London Wall on Whitecross St.. But I think the location had less to do with being beyond the Guild's control and more to do with that part of London being the area for textile shops and related products. He was also a Master of the Upholders Guild, a tobacco merchant and, I think, a sheriff. Not sure if it was possible to achieve all these things as the descendant of a Huguenot family in early 1700s London. Shane > > From: Penny Cazaly <penny@cazaly.fslife.co.uk> > Date: 2006/02/27 Mon PM 01:45:04 EST > To: smdtarry@bellsouth.net, HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Huguenots and Trade Restrictions > > > > "Is anyone aware of restrictions being placed on strangers in London" > Hi there, > In the late 1720s The great and the good of Edinburgh invited a group of Picardy Huguenots to come to Edinburgh from a desire to encourage the weaving industry in Scotland. The huguenots were described as poor and illiterate but Scotland needed their skills. However only Edinburgh Burghers were allowed to ply trade within the city boundaries. The incomers were offered a piece of land outside the city boundary which they completely rejected. The only alternative open to the "Board" was to make each family head a Burgher of Edinburgh. I think some researchers have assumed that these men from Picardy had "risen" in society to have become Burgesses; this was not the case. It was a bribe to come to Edinburgh. > I am sure tit would be the case all over the country; Hughuenots could live "outwith" the city boundaries.Otherwise they would have to buy earn or....somehow obtain the status to trade "within". In fact I have seen an advert in the Times for a property in Spital Square where one of the selling points was that the shop was outside the city boundary and so trade would be easy for prospective buyers > Penny Cazaly >

    03/01/2006 04:06:44
    1. Re: Trade Restricitons:The weavers of Picardie in Scotland : huguenot names
    2. Thanks for the replies everybody. I guess I will never find the definitive evidence to prove, or disprove, a Huguenot ancestry. It's very frustrating. Shane Tarry > > From: Penny Cazaly <penny@cazaly.fslife.co.uk> > Date: 2006/02/27 Mon PM 11:39:31 EST > To: smdtarry@bellsouth.net, HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Trade Restricitons:The weavers of Picardie in Scotland : huguenot > names > > Hi there, > > There were several Protestant communities in the area near St Quentin that grew up a fair bit after the Revocation of 1685 in the early 1800?s. Naturally they suffered persecution with male worshippers sent to the galleys for life and the protestant preachers executed. Legal Marriage was impossible so Protestant Children were illegitimate. I suppose dead protestants were not legally dead?.. France was not a safe place for Huguenots. > > In 1716, the rural communities, like Templeux le Guérard, Jeancourt, Ronssoy, Herbécourt ??..were an easy target for Royal Troops. > > notes:- > Arrested imprisoned and rearrested 1716-1717 > > DASSAUVILLE, Nicholas > DRANCOURT, Jean > BOITEL J > > Further After protesting about the above arrests > > EUSEBE, Michael jailed later fled to London in Threadneedle records and French Hospital Records > FLAMANT, Hubert jailed again fled to London Threadneedle > > Shot by French Troops - > > LELOIRE, Catherine (from ?Protestants of Picardie?) > wife of DASSAUVILLE, Nicholas leaving 7 orphans > > In 1723 the pressure was intensified by Louis XV now of age and keen to emulate his father in ridding France of the enemy within. > ***** > > Émigrés to London: > > Two young weavers fled from the dangers of Picardie to Threadneedle Street and marriage to sisters > > POLAIN, Claude married MASSE, Catherine 1725 > BOUCHARD, Francois married MASSE, ?Jeanne? (note quotation marks mean the name is a ?thought to be name? > The Edinburgh born Absolem Polain returned to London and married Jeanne CAZALY > > > In 1727 the Board of Trustees for the improvement of Manufactures and Fisheries was set up in Edinburgh. The Boards Linen Committee negotiated with > > JONCOURT, Jean and primarily with > > DASSAUVILLE, Nicholas > > The plan was to bring 10 skilled cambric weavers with their families to Scotland to improve the quality of Scottish linen. > > The scheme was ill advised for many reasons which the sources explain. Interestingly 2 of the reasons were the competition from the employment of Dutch weavers in Edinburgh and the growing Irish weaving industry (Huguenot?) > > One group of weavers, from Picardie travelled, by the Route de Tournai via Rotterdam to Leith. The other group travelled from London. The whole group appears very much inter related. > > The experiment did not work. > Some of the group died in Edinburgh. > Some had children born in Edinburgh. In fact one of the first arrivals from France gave her newborn son the regal and loyal name of George Augustus within 1 day of landing. She was obviously grateful for the refuge. > Some married Scottish lads and lassies and settled into the fabric of Edinburgh. > Back to Threadneedle Street for the rest. > > The weavers were: > > DASSAUVILLE, Nicholas Leader of the Project > > DASSAUVILLE, Anne his sister and widow of FLAMANT, Hubert > FLAMANT Katherine their daughter a spinner > FLAMANT Anne their daughter a spinner > FLAMANT Jacob son learner weaver > > DASSAUVILLE Jean Nicholas?s brother and his wife > CARLIER ?Francise? > > > PROY Charles reed maker > BOUCHARD Margaret his wife > PROY John (9) son > PROY Magdalen (7) daughter > PROY Charles (9months) son > > CARLIER Thomas weaver > PROY Marion his wife > CARLIER Francis (18) weaver, son > CARLIER John (10) learner, son > CARLIER Marion (4) daughter > CARLIER Thomas (2) son > > BOUCHARD Francis > MASSE ?Jeanne? And their children > BOUCHARD John Single man died 1730 > DELLAT Jean Single man > > POULAIN Claud > MASSE Catherine and their children > > CHARLET James weaver > FLAMANT Margaret wife > CHARLET James son > CHARLET George Augustus new born > > > > References > The Proceedings Huguenot of the Huguenot Society Vol XXV11 No 1 Anthony Springall: A Huguenot Community in Scotland; the Weavers of Picardy. > Springall notes that ?spellings vary greatly between and within documents? > > I have noticed that Board records immediately anglicised the French form of the names. Particularly noticeable is Marion for Marie Ann, and the very Scottish name FLEMING for the French version FLAMANT ? entries made within days of first setting foot on Scottish soil > > The Book of the Old Edinburgh Club vol XXV 1945 > > I apologise for any mistakes I may have made transcribing and spelling names ? I follow a long tradition. > > This is not a full transcript of the article just a personal précis concentration on the original Hughenot settlers' names. If you want to know more about the problrms that faced the Picardie Huguenots read Springall or The Book of Old Edinburgh Club > > Penny Cazaly > >

    02/28/2006 03:12:26
    1. Trade Restricitons:The weavers of Picardie in Scotland : huguenot names
    2. Penny Cazaly
    3. Hi there, There were several Protestant communities in the area near St Quentin that grew up a fair bit after the Revocation of 1685 in the early 1800’s. Naturally they suffered persecution with male worshippers sent to the galleys for life and the protestant preachers executed. Legal Marriage was impossible so Protestant Children were illegitimate. I suppose dead protestants were not legally dead….. France was not a safe place for Huguenots. In 1716, the rural communities, like Templeux le Guérard, Jeancourt, Ronssoy, Herbécourt ……..were an easy target for Royal Troops. notes:- Arrested imprisoned and rearrested 1716-1717 DASSAUVILLE, Nicholas DRANCOURT, Jean BOITEL J Further After protesting about the above arrests EUSEBE, Michael jailed later fled to London in Threadneedle records and French Hospital Records FLAMANT, Hubert jailed again fled to London Threadneedle Shot by French Troops - LELOIRE, Catherine (from “Protestants of Picardie”) wife of DASSAUVILLE, Nicholas leaving 7 orphans In 1723 the pressure was intensified by Louis XV now of age and keen to emulate his father in ridding France of the enemy within. ***** Émigrés to London: Two young weavers fled from the dangers of Picardie to Threadneedle Street and marriage to sisters POLAIN, Claude married MASSE, Catherine 1725 BOUCHARD, Francois married MASSE, “Jeanne” (note quotation marks mean the name is a “thought to be name” The Edinburgh born Absolem Polain returned to London and married Jeanne CAZALY In 1727 the Board of Trustees for the improvement of Manufactures and Fisheries was set up in Edinburgh. The Boards Linen Committee negotiated with JONCOURT, Jean and primarily with DASSAUVILLE, Nicholas The plan was to bring 10 skilled cambric weavers with their families to Scotland to improve the quality of Scottish linen. The scheme was ill advised for many reasons which the sources explain. Interestingly 2 of the reasons were the competition from the employment of Dutch weavers in Edinburgh and the growing Irish weaving industry (Huguenot?) One group of weavers, from Picardie travelled, by the Route de Tournai via Rotterdam to Leith. The other group travelled from London. The whole group appears very much inter related. The experiment did not work. Some of the group died in Edinburgh. Some had children born in Edinburgh. In fact one of the first arrivals from France gave her newborn son the regal and loyal name of George Augustus within 1 day of landing. She was obviously grateful for the refuge. Some married Scottish lads and lassies and settled into the fabric of Edinburgh. Back to Threadneedle Street for the rest. The weavers were: DASSAUVILLE, Nicholas Leader of the Project DASSAUVILLE, Anne his sister and widow of FLAMANT, Hubert FLAMANT Katherine their daughter a spinner FLAMANT Anne their daughter a spinner FLAMANT Jacob son learner weaver DASSAUVILLE Jean Nicholas’s brother and his wife CARLIER “Francise” PROY Charles reed maker BOUCHARD Margaret his wife PROY John (9) son PROY Magdalen (7) daughter PROY Charles (9months) son CARLIER Thomas weaver PROY Marion his wife CARLIER Francis (18) weaver, son CARLIER John (10) learner, son CARLIER Marion (4) daughter CARLIER Thomas (2) son BOUCHARD Francis MASSE “Jeanne” And their children BOUCHARD John Single man died 1730 DELLAT Jean Single man POULAIN Claud MASSE Catherine and their children CHARLET James weaver FLAMANT Margaret wife CHARLET James son CHARLET George Augustus new born References The Proceedings Huguenot of the Huguenot Society Vol XXV11 No 1 Anthony Springall: A Huguenot Community in Scotland; the Weavers of Picardy. Springall notes that “spellings vary greatly between and within documents” I have noticed that Board records immediately anglicised the French form of the names. Particularly noticeable is Marion for Marie Ann, and the very Scottish name FLEMING for the French version FLAMANT – entries made within days of first setting foot on Scottish soil The Book of the Old Edinburgh Club vol XXV 1945 I apologise for any mistakes I may have made transcribing and spelling names – I follow a long tradition. This is not a full transcript of the article just a personal précis concentration on the original Hughenot settlers' names. If you want to know more about the problrms that faced the Picardie Huguenots read Springall or The Book of Old Edinburgh Club Penny Cazaly

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