Hi Thanks to Tony Fuller. I shall, indeed, get in touch with Mr. Nash as I hadn't heard of those "servants of the Empire" which he mentions. Thanks to Hanne Thorup Koudal. It was very kind of you to look up my surname in the way that you did. I am well aware of the history of the name in Holland and later in South Africa etc. I also know that my ancestor Jean Blignaut is mentioned in the records of the Walloon Bibliotheque in Leide. I would,nevertheless, be interested in what you find after you have finished with BLOND/LEBLOND - do those names figure in your ancestry? Perhaps I misled everybody in my previous post because the questions I was asking have more to do with the origin of French surnames than with Huguenot family history. However, all correspondence is welcome! Thanks again Martin Blignaut -- Martin moslins1@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service

Ah. But, as I read US copyright laws anyway, a photofacsimile edition is *different* than an online copyrighted edition (which usually requires textual amendations for copyright to be established). I'm just taking pictures of historical artifacts (deliberately, as I am no fan of most copyright regimes, for precisely this kind of potentially chilling effect). And I not engaged in distribution, really -- I'm relying on you all to be meme-tic here, and point people who need such things to the places where they can be found. I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, but I think I'm in the clear here. And if I'm not, I'll post a copy of the cease-and-desist orders I get ;-> (Here would be found my rant on people who try to use legfal regimes to monetize our shared historical record. May they find their own special place in H...) Thanks, T. -----Original Message----- From: fuller.tony [mailto:fuller.tony@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:14 AM To: marc@noumenal.com; huguenots-walloons-europe@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HWE] Photofacsimile of De Felice's History of The Protestants OfFrance Hi Marc Great ideas, I'll be looking at them for sure, but be careful, Smiles has been done and is copyrighted on line. Tony Fuller

Folks: Good to see chatter on the list. Some of you may remember that I inquired a while back about people's interest in "deep background" materials -- not directly useful for ancestor-hunting, but definitely useful for understanding, say, the Principality of Orange in context. I have been working on this, mostly acquiring older (18th and 19th) century works in English. The first "resurrection" -- that of De Felice's *History of the Protestants of France* -- is digitized, for those of you who want to read the man whom most of the Victorians writing about the Huguenots pillaged ruthlessly...It really is a good read. Photofacsimile editions will be available within a few hours or so (say by midnight GTM tonight)...free of charge.... For a greyscale facsimile edition (smaller, at 90 MB, and probably best for printing): http://lexivore.com/huguenots/de_felice/de_felice_greyscale.zip For those of you who like that yellow esparto-grass-paper look (113 MB): http://lexivore.com/huguents/de_felice/de_felice_photo.zip Inside are PDF files you can send off to your local copy shop for printing and binding. And for those of you with the wherewithal, Adobe Acrobat 7.0's commercial version includes in-built OCR....which would allow you to (a) save trees and (b) do free-text-searching inside the PDF itself. (Andrea -- not a commercial plug ;->) Next in the queue: W. S Browning's *History of the Huguenots* and the oft-referenced Reverend Smiles. A word (several, that I've said before) -- do not assume the information in De Felice, or any historian of the Huguenots, can be taken to the bank. These things are sources of hypotheses, clues and leads, not facts. If you have particular works (out of copyright of course) that you want to see resurrected, let me know.

Hullo I usually try to post things that [I hope] are of general interest in order to promote discussion or, at least, so as not to be too much of a bore. However, at the invitation of Andrea Vogel: My surname is BLIGNAUT and I have, with the help of the Marne Archives, traced my ancestors to the small commune of Monthelon in the Marne Department[51]. It seems that the name can also be spelled: BLIGNOT; BLIGNAULT; BLIGNON; BLIGNOD; BLIGNEAU [I have ruled out BLINOT]. My questions, which seem to lead to a brick wall, are these: What is the origin of names which have BLIGN... as their stem? Where have they all gone? [even idle speculation is wecome!] So as not to be accused of being "off topic" [a popular discussion stifler!] I'll add that many of the bearers of the name must have been Huguenots. Martin Blignaut -- Martin moslins1@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own

Dear HWE Subscribers -- The topic: advertising on Rootsweb and specifically on this mailing list. Apparently, my post last week on 16 Oct did not make the situation clear enough. The purpose of this list is for the discussion of Huguenot/Walloon genealogy. It is *not* for advertisements of any sort, no matter how worthy. Nor is it for discussion of the pros/cons of various goods and services which are available commercially, even if they are relevant to Huguenots in some way. This view is not a personal whim of mine. As admin of this list, I am merely carrying out the position of Rootsweb, ie. no commercial info or advertising, either on the mailing lists or on the message boards. So it's best to stay away completely from any discussion of a commercial nature, including (but not confined to) mention of fees, prices, costs, money, etc. If such threads occur, do not perpetuate them by replying on the list. Also, when posting to HWE, do not link to websites which are commercial in nature. A example of this would be recommending a book (which is welcomed and appropriate) but then linking to a commercial site which sells that book (which is not). So mention the book, by all means, but leave out the info as to where to buy it. I think subscribers will be able to find that info on their own. But, if you think not, include a comment in your post that anyone unable to find the book can contact you privately. I hope my comments have made this whole matter clear. I also hope there will be no further ads or commercial posts on HWE. I really dislike having to send posts to the list like this, especially more than once. I would much prefer it if even a small fraction of the hundreds of subscribers here would occasionally post some of their genealogical info, comments, expertise, research, brick walls, questions, etc. And I thank those of you who do. But, alas, most of you seem to prefer not to. Andrea (HWE list concierge)

Dear HWE Subscribers -- The topic: advertising on Rootsweb and specifically on this mailing list. Apparently, my post last week on 16 Oct did not make the situation clear enough. The purpose of this list is for the discussion of Huguenot/Walloon genealogy. It is *not* for advertisements of any sort, no matter how worthy. Nor is it for discussion of the pros/cons of various goods and services which are available commercially, even if they are relevant to Huguenots in some way. This view is not a personal whim of mine. As admin of this list, I am merely carrying out the position of Rootsweb, ie. no commercial info or advertising, either on the mailing lists or on the message boards. So it's best to stay away completely from any discussion of a commercial nature, including (but not confined to) mention of fees, prices, costs, money, etc. If such threads occur, do not perpetuate them by replying on the list. Also, when posting to HWE, do not link to websites which are commercial in nature. A example of this would be recommending a book (which is welcomed and appropriate) but then linking to a commercial site which sells that book (which is not). So mention the book, by all means, but leave out the info as to where to buy it. I think subscribers will be able to find that info on their own. But, if you think not, include a comment in your post that anyone unable to find the book can contact you privately. I hope my comments have made this whole matter clear. I also hope there will be no further ads or commercial posts on HWE. I really dislike having to send posts to the list like this, especially more than once. I would much prefer it if even a fraction of the hundreds of subscribers here would occasionally post some of their genealogical info, comments, expertise, research, brick walls, questions, etc. I thank those of you who do. But, alas, most of you seem to prefer not to. Andrea (HWE list concierge)

Thank you Dr Freeman for the information. If this opportunity was offered in the south of France (especially Bouches-du-Rhone and the Vaucluse), I'd be seriously thinking about taking advantage of it, and would be especially interested in the part about having a knowledgeable guide. Unfortunately, none of the families I work on were from the La Rochelle area. On Oct 25, 2006, at 4:59 AM, Dr Mike Freeman wrote: > We have, however, recruited the services of a young > Frenchman who has just spent a year writing a Masters dissertation > at the > University of South Carolina on the Huguenots to act as a guide to > sites > around La Rochelle.

Dear Tony, Thanks for your warm welcome! Please allow me to correct some of your hostile and misleading comments: 1. Lingualearn is a UK based company offering a wide range of high quality language products and services. 2. The reason why we sell to so many schools and universities is that we provide a good range of software, magazines and other teaching materials from many top brands: e.g. Authentik, Auralog, BBC, Champs Elysees, Clarity, Collins, Dragon, Eurotalk, Global, Hodder, Intense, InPage, Linguaphone, MacMillan, Oxford University Press, Systran, Trados... We have just sent a large supply of software to University College, London University for learning French, German, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Japanese, Chinese and Arabic. 3. You are correct that I am not a Huguenot historian, but have never claimed to be one. My own expertise is in language learning and managing language courses. We have, however, recruited the services of a young Frenchman who has just spent a year writing a Masters dissertation at the University of South Carolina on the Huguenots to act as a guide to sites around La Rochelle. We can also offer talks to groups by Bertrand Vanruymbeke (he co-edited a book in 2003 on the "Huguenot Diaspora, Memory and Identity" [Columbia, USC Press] and this year published "From New Babylon to Eden" [also at USC Press.]. http://www.sc.edu/uscpress/2005/3583.html 4. You are also correct that it is relatively cold during the winter months near La Rochelle, but we are offering courses all the year round. Clients can choose to go during the low season when it is very quiet and peaceful (and slightly cheaper) or during the high season when it is warmer and busier. Some customers might find it easier to concentrate and relax during the winter months, others will prefer the high season. I hope that I have convinced you that we a reputable company offering a genuine proposition to those interested in learning some French, exploring the Huguenot sites of interest near La Rochelle in South West France, and carrying out research at the Departmental Archives with an English-speaking guide. I apologise if we have misused this mailing list in any way, but did not know that this type of message was not allowed. To avoid any problems, I suggest any further messages should be sent directly to those concerned. Regards, Mike At 17:39 16/10/2006, you wrote: >Hi folks > >Ok, declare my interest as you all know .... > >This is essentially a French language school which is permanently touting >for business. > >The list of its clients bears some reading, many of the universities >(including the one I attended and J worked at for 25 years) have their own >well established language departments/schools so why would they need this >schools services? > >And the way in which this guy went about joining and advertising is a bit >suspect - not known in the research world as a Huguenot historian as far as >I can tell and I know most of them in the UK or France by name or >reputation. > >The Huguenot bit is a bolt on to his language school for the quiet season - >you need to remember, it's going to be cold in that area at the time he's >offering the course and 70% of everything will be closed down for the winter >if you do take up his offer. > >Regards > >Tony Fuller > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Regards, Mike ____________________________________________________ This message is from: Dr M I Freeman Managing Director Lingualearn Ltd Tel: 01273 597169 Fax: 01273 243405 E-mail: mike@lingualearn.co.uk URL: http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/ ________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your system.

Bit late but better late than never ........ The three main articles in the latest Cahiers are: Correspondence d'Abraham Rambour, ministre de Sedan (1590-1651) (continued) Louis Liron et sa descendance - trois generations de poteries de terre a Lyon Les Bouet de Bouquet et de Saint-Victor-de-Melcap (Gard) Plus the usual admin and general enquiries/answers. Any body with interests in the families please post away - but nothing speculative please. Regards Tony Fuller

Hi folks Interesting article (7 pages long, lots of references) in one of the French genealogical mags (Votre Genealogie) about those people sentenced to servitude in the galleys, in French called les Galeriens. Among a welter of statistics, two small pie charts. First one shows percentages of crimes for which people were sentenced 1680-1715, 45% deserteurs, 31% droits commune, 16% contabandiers, 4% motif non donne, 4 % Protestantes. Between 1715 and 1789 no Protestantes recorded, the number of deserteurs had fallen dramatically but the number of contrabandiers had risen hugely. Figures from the central records at the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris ............. Regards Tony Fuller Huguenot Trails Berbiguieres 24220 France

http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC07226189&id=ysiqDOKTA6kC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=crottet&hl=fr (URL may wrap and have to be pasted back together.) Histoire des églises réformées de Pons, Gemozac, et Mortagne, en Saintonge by Alexandre Ceśar Crottet discovered by Maurice Yon

Hi folks Ok, declare my interest as you all know .... This is essentially a French language school which is permanently touting for business. The list of its clients bears some reading, many of the universities (including the one I attended and J worked at for 25 years) have their own well established language departments/schools so why would they need this schools services? And the way in which this guy went about joining and advertising is a bit suspect - not known in the research world as a Huguenot historian as far as I can tell and I know most of them in the UK or France by name or reputation. The Huguenot bit is a bolt on to his language school for the quiet season - you need to remember, it's going to be cold in that area at the time he's offering the course and 70% of everything will be closed down for the winter if you do take up his offer. Regards Tony Fuller

Listers -- This is to inform all subscribers that posting advertisements to this list -- or to any Rootsweb list -- is unacceptable. An example would be the post sent to HWE earlier today concerning a language school website which includes an apparent Huguenot course. It was sent by a new subscriber who had joined the list less than half an hour earlier. No matter how worthy a product or service is being advertised, this is a Rootsweb no-no. Please abide by it, everyone. Now, does anyone have any Huguenot/Walloon genealogy to share? Surely one or two among our hundreds of HWE subscribers has something.....? Anything...? Waiting with bated breath.....Andrea (HWE list concierge)

Dear List Member, We are running some new French packages that may be of interest to your members: The French Huguenot Course will allow you to learn some French, explore the Huguenot sites of interest near La Rochelle in South West France, and carry out research at the Departmental Archives with an English-speaking guide. http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/learners/adpages/chatelaillon_huguenot.htm http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/learners/adpages/chatelaillon_food.htm http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/learners/adpages/chatelaillon_leisure.htm http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/learners/adpages/chatelaillon_executives.htm http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/learners/adpages/chatelaillon_property.htm Our current client list may be found on our website: http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/root/clients.htm Regards, Mike ____________________________________________________ This message is from: Dr M I Freeman Managing Director Lingualearn Ltd Tel: 01273 597169 Fax: 01273 243405 E-mail: mike@lingualearn.co.uk URL: http://www.lingualearn.co.uk/ ________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your system.

Hi, Tony and list, Tony, thanks for the heads-up about the French-language school. When something sounds too good to be true, it usually is! Cheers! Betty (in rainy Delta, BC)

Hi folks Carol's right, all from the Norwich QS 1. Regards Tony Fuller Huguenot Trails enquiries@huguenottrails.com

Hi Tony: Thanks for the backup. Sorry I didn't put the reference/source on the top of the page. Library may have been closing and I was rushed. Carol

Sorry, I can't tell the source of the page these names were on except I believe it was Vol. 1 of the Quarto Series, Huguenot Publications that I was reading at Sutro Genealogy Library, San Francisco, California - the pages have become separated. 1669 WALLOMONT, Judith de Hockham Carol

Sorry, I can't tell the source of the page these names were on except I believe it was Vol. 1 of the Quarto Series, Huguenot Publications that I was reading at Sutro Genealogy Library, San Francisco, California - the pages have become separated. 1764 MACKARELL, James de Norwich 69-125 1769 MACKARELL, Benjamin de Cley 67-107 1775 MACKARELL, Frances de Norwich 92-137 Carol

Sorry, I can't tell the source of the page these names were on except I believe it was Vol. 1 of the Quarto Series, Huguenot Publications that I was reading at Sutro Genealogy Library, San Francisco, California - the pages have become separated. 1635 BLOOME, Vincent de Neatshead 1635 BLOOME, Joh'nes de Lasling 1635 BLOOME, Robert de Norwich 1635 BLOOME, Purdentia de Norwich & BLOOME, Georguis Carol