Hi Chloe Don't get too hung up about what Huguenots did for a living. When you look through the analysis of the Quarto series volumes by place and occupations there are dozens - my ancestors were wig makers, wine merchants, haberdashers all sorts of things. And as with French names, the Huguenots came from all walks of life so being a cooper, especially so long after the Refuge, isn't at all odd. Regards Tony Fuller

Hi Tony Thank you for your interesting and informative email about the Cambie family. I was wondering if you knew of any sources where I might investigate the possibility of my Cambie family and their probable Walloon ancestors. Any help will be deeply appreciated. Janet Ker ----- Original Message ----- From: "fuller.tony" <fuller.tony@wanadoo.fr> Date: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:13 am Subject: Re: [HWE] Cambie > Hi Janet > > Just a small correction first if I may - Cromwell died in 1658. > His major > offensive was against James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormond in 1649 > when the > Battle of Drogheda took place. So if your family were with > Cromwell you're > a hundred years back - if they went in the 1700s it wasn't with > Cromwell > though it may have been to fight for William III. > > There's very little in the majority of the Hug Soc of GB and > Ireland's > publications on the name CAMBIE though the name does appear quite > extensively in the Society's records of the Norwich > Walloon/Huguenot church > (along with CAMBIER and CAMBIEU and others) some of which appear > on > familysearch.com. > > I've also checked through everything else from the Hug Soc and > other sources > that I have and there is little else on CAMBIE per se, even in the > French > sources. > > However, there is also the well known French/Huguenot name of > CAMBIER and I > would have thought that this is likely to be the origin of the > name - > CAMBIERs are well known in the Huguenot world and have been well > researched, > there are still Cambiers active in the Society today. > > Regards > > Tony Fuller > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUGUENOTS- > WALLOONS-EUROPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I have a copy of "Otto Zoff's" The Huguenots " Fighters for God and Human Freedom" published in 1943 but written much earlier. I would be willing to send this copy to you should you wish to copy and publish on the web for all to read. Let me know if you are interested. Regards Simon Le Maréchal -----Original Message----- From: huguenots-walloons-europe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:huguenots-walloons-europe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marc Demarest Sent: 26 October 2006 15:02 To: huguenots-walloons-europe@rootsweb.com; Huguenot-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWE] Photofacsimile of De Felice's History of The Protestants OfFrance Folks: Good to see chatter on the list. Some of you may remember that I inquired a while back about people's interest in "deep background" materials -- not directly useful for ancestor-hunting, but definitely useful for understanding, say, the Principality of Orange in context. I have been working on this, mostly acquiring older (18th and 19th) century works in English. The first "resurrection" -- that of De Felice's *History of the Protestants of France* -- is digitized, for those of you who want to read the man whom most of the Victorians writing about the Huguenots pillaged ruthlessly...It really is a good read. Photofacsimile editions will be available within a few hours or so (say by midnight GTM tonight)...free of charge.... For a greyscale facsimile edition (smaller, at 90 MB, and probably best for printing): http://lexivore.com/huguenots/de_felice/de_felice_greyscale.zip For those of you who like that yellow esparto-grass-paper look (113 MB): http://lexivore.com/huguents/de_felice/de_felice_photo.zip Inside are PDF files you can send off to your local copy shop for printing and binding. And for those of you with the wherewithal, Adobe Acrobat 7.0's commercial version includes in-built OCR....which would allow you to (a) save trees and (b) do free-text-searching inside the PDF itself. (Andrea -- not a commercial plug ;->) Next in the queue: W. S Browning's *History of the Huguenots* and the oft-referenced Reverend Smiles. A word (several, that I've said before) -- do not assume the information in De Felice, or any historian of the Huguenots, can be taken to the bank. These things are sources of hypotheses, clues and leads, not facts. If you have particular works (out of copyright of course) that you want to see resurrected, let me know. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, My Experience is that the huguenotnames did not change much after 1600-2006, except when people translated their names into another language, when crossing a border. The other exception is, that the name could undergo inrecognazable change, when people left the huguenot colony, and started to live among ordinary Germans or Danes/Swedish people. And in Gr. Britain too. Another thing wich happened were the lack of the first part of the name and changing from one to two words or the oppisite: Le Blond became Blond Desmarets became de Marest and vice versa. Also B/P and C/G could change: Bettac to Pettach or Cambie to Gambie or Killemond to Gillemond/Guillemond LOUISON, HONORE, DESMARETS, LE BLOND, BETTAC have not changed much in the huguenot colonies in that period of time. Changed by translation: Armand to Hermann (in Germany) Louison to Ludvigsen (in Denmark at some time), and then back to original: Louison. Le Maire to Meyer (in Denmark at some time), and then back to original: le Maire. Killemond to Kielmann (in Germany and Denmark) Changed by living among ordinary Danes: Bettac to Betak via Bittag and Betach. Hanne Thorup Koudal

hi Tony any illustrations of the church in Manosque, Provence where I know an Arabin marriage took place; or any in Riez from where the family originated? Shirley > It's a Conference report from the 2003 Montpellier Colloquium on 'The > Architecture of Reformed Church Buildings (across Europe, TF), 16th/17th > centuries'. > > 14 papers, plus many pics, plans etc. Unfortunately, in a way the French > do so well (sorry Phillipe) the contents are listed but not the numerous > illustrations of churches, plans and the like - so good but so frustrating > as they would be great to list on here. > > Tony Fuller

Thank you to Carol for the tip-off on the Lincs and Cambs lists, which I shall follow up. I was aware of the Lincolnshire link, thanks to Bob Hairsine, maybe this will lead to other information. Regards, Jennie

Hi, Try in Google to search for Chaplin: Mary Ann Chaplin (1844-1922) was of Huguenot descent. She wrote her first published poetry when only 11 years old, and continued throughout her life While Chaplin may have been read as Jewish by Jewish audiences, according to David Robinson's 1985 biography, Chaplin was not Jewish, but of Huguenot Breillat, Thomas Chaplin (1804-1873) Biographical Entry. According to family tradition his ancestors were Huguenot refugees who had been ... So a lot of people claim CHAPLIN to be of huguenot origin! Look at FamilySearch: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp to se some Chaplins from Ireland. Greetings Hanne Thorup Koudal

Hi folks The Frederica Church is discussed at some length in comparison to the Reformee Church in Copenhagen that I mentioned earlier today. Can provide a copy if anybody has any interest in it. Regards Tony Fuller

Hi Martin et all Answer to BLIGNAUT-subject: Daniel LE BLOND, born 1660 i Cormeilles, Picardie, France or Morgny-en-Thiérache, France, dead 30.06.1737 in Fredericia, Denmark, married (I, bef. 1690) Marie LE TROCAIS/LE FRANCOIS (dead bef. 1718), married (II, abt. 1691 in Brandenburg, Preussen, Germany) Marie BERTHE, born abt. 1664 in Saint-Michel, Thiérache, France, dead 17.03.1732 in Fredericia, Denmark, married (II). Yes, Daniel LE BLOND and Marie BERTHE were my ancestors. Daniel LE BLOND was a tobacplanter; the family were of French Reformed Religion. He was in Brandenburg (town or area) about 1692. 1721-1737 he was in Fredericia. He was a member of the consistoire of the French Reformed Church of Fredericia in 1721, and he was one of three persons, who came to negotiate with the Danish king, before the colony in Fredericia was established. The other two negotiators were Jacob DEVANTIER (born 1665, dead about 1733) and Paul d'ARREST. The last did never go to Denmark. Greetings Hanne Thorup Koudal

Hi Thanks to Carol J markillie. I don't find your theory "funny"; it's just that in my case the research involved is rather daunting as the region involved [north-eastern France] has been a main invasion and transit route since the earliest times, with all the concomitant upheavals and even chaos that that implies. However,I did come across an interesting notion that the name BLIGNAUT may have originated from the commune of Bligny. There are two towns with this name in France: one in the Aube and the other in the Marne Department. However, the early records of Bligny in the Marne were destroyed in the First World War. Anybody who is interested in the origin of French surnames may find the following site of interest: http://genealogy.about.com/cs/surname/a/french_surnames.htm Excuse me if you have known about this site for many years! There is another: http://jeantosti.com/noms/a.htm It's in French, but if you click on the initial [in the long rectangular box] of the surname in which you are interested, you might find the results useful. Isn't Hanne Thorup Koudal lucky! He doesn't have to speculate for too long: BLOND/LEBLOND = flaxen-haired ancestor. Best wishes Martin Blignaut -- Martin moslins1@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service.

Hi List Any ideas as to the history of the name Chaplin and its Huguenot origins etc. My wife's Grandaddy was a Chaplin and was born in Ireland. She thinks he was of Hug. derivation.....

Hello With Tony's help, I've been able to confirm that my Du Soleil ancestors were Huguenots. The only thing that I'm trying to find out now, other than trying to get further back.... which is more a dream than anything I think, is to find out their occupation. How do I do that? I know that Thomas Dusolei was a cooper, through his wife's death certificate in 1838. Well, I think that's her, cos she did die down in Brighton, when the family are always in London.... bit confusing.... Were Huguenots usually coopers?? I didn't think they were. I know that they were descended from Huguenots because Thomas and Sarah's daughter, Jane, was enrolled at the Huguenot School, and you had to prove your ancestry, Thomas also went there too. Any help appreciated. Thanks Chloe (Perren.... another possible Huguenot surname, as they were in Soho around the 1750s.... only possible though!)

Hello Martin: I work on what may seem to be a funny theory - I think all names originally meant something i.e. a location, a performance someone did (warrior, healer, etc), so as surnames started being 'awarded' about 1100, I go into the region where the name came from, look for any similar names, then go to the history books and find out what has gone on there that the name would have come into being. It is difficult to look for old French, Saxon, German, Flemish words but it is surprising how much information you can find out, particularly if the area is quite small. Also, the surname has changed through the ages, depending on who was ruling your bit of country - if you can search back and see what it was in the 1200s, say, you can probably find something about it in one of the old heraldry books or books on the battles or other things that happened in your area. It takes a bit of detective work and what you come up with may be argued against but at least it gives you an idea. Good Hunting - Carol

Hi Marc Great ideas, I'll be looking at them for sure, but be careful, Smiles has been done and is copyrighted on line. Tony Fuller

Well folks, the latest tome has thudded into the regulation size, properly sited post box that you have to have in France. It's a Conference report from the 2003 Montpellier Colloquium on 'The Architecture of Reformed Church Buildings (across Europe, TF), 16th/17th centuries'. 14 papers, plus many pics, plans etc. Unfortunately, in a way the French do so well (sorry Phillipe) the contents are listed but not the numerous illustrations of churches, plans and the like - so good but so frustrating as they would be great to list on here. Three which leap out - Temples in the Principality of Orange, secondly, Temples of the Huguenot Colonies in Hesse, thirdly, The Temple Reformee in Copenhagen. There are 14 very brief resumes of the individual papers in English but they are only a few lines long and don't really give the guts of the papers and whilst the papers are interesting, they are of course in French. Just posted for information Tony Fuller

Hi Martin Surprisingly few Blign .... in the Hug Soc of GB's publications which should have picked up variations. Have you spoken to Robert Nash from the Hug Soc of Australia? He wrote a piece for Huguenot Families in which he mentions the BLIGNAULTS serving the Empire and - I think - ending up in Australia and he may have more information for you. Not much else other than the other entries seem to refer to the name/place CAMBLIGNEUL, all in the Canterbury history in Quarto Series. Hope this helps in some little way Tony Fuller (who, rumour has it, is going to be the next Editor of the Hug Soc of GB's Huguenot Families so be prepared to be asked for copy if you post anything unusual or interesting Sorry Andrea, not commercial though, want to get some of the research we do into print so others can share it)

Hallo Martin and all BlLIGNAUT are in Monthelon, Marne, France; in Stellenbosch Cape of Good Hope, South Africa and in Holland (Amsterdam) - so is told by FamilySearch. In you can confirm Monthelon and probably some huguenots. I advice you to find a Family Search Library and try to take a look at "Fisches Wallones" from Leiden. The originals are now in Hague, but the mormones have coppied the excellent piece of information. The "Fisches Walloones" are divided almost alphabetical after surname. The film number 199772 will contain surnames BLEU-BOE, and because some members seems to be staying in Amsterdam thye have probably been members of a church for Calvinists/Walloons/Hugenots - whatever you chose to call the french reformed protestants. BLIGNAUT could be mentioned there if they stayed long enough in Holland to be members of a church f.ex. in Amsterdam. I have ordered this film to Copenhagen to look for BLOND family, who were from Picardie or Morgny-en-Thiérache, and are also called LE BLOND. I will because of other obligations not be able to contue my research untill January 07, but then I will remember your name BLIGNAUT and look for it too. Greetings Hanne Thorup Koudal Denmark

Hello Jennie: I've posted some HERSIN/HERSINEs on the Cambridgeshire and Lincolnshire mailing list - you could put a query on both if you'd like or look in the mailing list archives at rootsweb.com although I've noticed they've reduced them by large amounts. And have you tried the LDS familysearch.org webpages - they have listed all the congregation we know of at Thorney, Cambridgeshire and Crowland Lincolnshire. You'd also probably find them in London. Good Hunting - Carol

Hello list Following Andrea's message, I thought I would post the names I am researching. I have not contributed before now, because the discussion seemed so learned that I didn't feel I had anything to add. I am following up two possible Huguenot lines from my father's parents. In my tree, I have TUTINs in North Yorkshire from about 1570. From a couple of French websites, I know there were a large number of TUTINs in Esqueheries, Aisne departement, but the records are from the 17th and 18th centuries. My other line is HAIRSINE or HERSIN. There were HERSINs in Loire Atlantique and there is also a village called Hersin in northern France. I believe Bob Hairsine is a member of this list, which is where I found both him and the Huguenot link. If anyone is looking at either family, or can give me any pointers on where to look next, I would be very grateful. Regards, Jennie

Hi list I have traced the Cambies back to Ireland in the 1700's when the family arrived with Cromwell's army. I have reason to believe they were Walloons from the east of England. Would any kind soul please help me what my next step might be to find this out for sure? Any help gratefully received, Janet