Sometime ago i promised to find out the name of some books for a subscriber and now cannot find his/her email to me. The old heavy hand on the delete key struck again. So here are the titles for everyone. The Spitalfields Project, Vol 1, The Archaeology across the Styx, authors J Reeve and M Adams. CBA Research Report 85,1993. ISSN 014178 1 9 ISBN 1 872414 07 9 The Spitalfields Project, Vol 2, The Anthropology, The Middling Sort. authors Theya Molleson and Margaret Cox with A H Waldron & D K Whittaker. CBA Research Report 86, 1993 ISSN 014178 1 9 ISBN 1 872414 08 7 I do not know if they are still in print, but they cost 24 pounds sterling each, when they were printed. Rather macabre and spooky, but very interesting, and many Huguenot names. The excavations were to remove the bodies from the crypt of the church. Shirley Arabin. Mount Maunganui, NEW ZEALAND "If at first I don't succeed there is always next year"

[HWE] SIX, SY > Plymouth, DEV & Bristol/Stonehouse, GLS, ENG > Look-up The origin of the SEAY surname is not known, but it first appears in Devon during most of the 17th century and then disappears from England. It has been reported to have been adopted by a refugee named SAYE or SEE from Wicres in French Flanders. Insofar as certain sound-alike names from that region have also appeared in lists of other French churches in England, a Plymouth & Bristol/Stonehouse look-up seems desirable for SAYE, SAY, SEY, SEE, SIE, SEA, SIX and SY. Thanks, Hugh Seay

Dear All, I thought I would repost my surname interests. CHAPPLE - Devon RIPP - London Has anyone come across these names in Huguenot research? Duncan

Hello Hugh and All: The SIX family was a very influential, important family in Amsterdam and you can still tour their main residence. I have seen SAY and SIX in various Walloon registers and have always believed they were separate families. The SAYs are in the French Register at Thorney - don't remember if SIXs are also, but rather doubt it as they were wealthy industrialists as far as I can remember.[When I asked the reference librarian at Leiden University what "industrials" in the 1600s would have been, in regard to two LE PLA brothers in Leiden, she said "woollens". snip> But Marty's other August 11 posting about Huguenots in Virginia has a VIGNE surname that is possibly related to the family of my ancestor Abraham SEAY (SAY) who received a land grant in Virginia in 1745. He was married to a Naomi LAVIGNE, LOVIGNE, LOVINE, or LOVING--the spelling is uncertain. I have seen LAVIGNE in the Huguenot Society Quarto Series registers but unfortunately I don't remember which ones - some of the early Huguenot and Walloon people who came to America were closely connected to the Brownists in Leiden but your ancestor Abraham SEAY in 1745 was quite a bit later. I've seen mention of Huguenot settlements in the early colonies in Virginia etc. while helping others research there but I haven't paid particular attention since it is way early for me and mine. Thanks very much for the information on the GGRN! Regards - Carol At 05:25 PM 8/13/00 EDT, you wrote: > >Thanks to Andrea for posting on August 10 the SIX & variants in >Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex, and for having found and filled in all the gaps. > >My research partner, Virginia Holter, has recently joined the GGRN >(Groupement Genealogique de la Region du Nord). Membership is about $40+ to >join, and this includes 6 issues of their magazine. The members work for each >other, free. This is a good bargain. However, a little knowledge of French is >necessary >The URL: http://www.genenord.tm.fr/gnasso/gnoggr1.htm > >Since Flanders is included in la Region du Nord, we are getting help from >researchers on the scene where many SIX and SY sightings are possible. >But the registers of the English churches are also a fertile field, and >Andrea has been very helpful with them. > >Hugh Seay

Hello All: In response to Andrea Vogel's posting of 8/12/00, there were LE HAIREs in the congregation at Thorney and possibly at Sandtoft before that (there is only a partial register extant from Sandtoft) - I do believe I saw them in the Guisnes Temple (Artois) register or book that was published by the Huguenot Society. Many of the French Calvinists gave their children names from the Old Testament - that is why there are so many Abraham, Benjamin, Ephraim, Samuel, Isaac, Josiah, David, Daniel, etc.names among them and they usually followed down through the generations and within family groups, which sometimes makes it very difficult to guess which son belonged to which family, etc. As for the women, their given names were Ann, Mary, Martha, Sarah, Susannah, Rebecca, etc. although I've seen plenty of Jennes and Elizabeths and French 'family' names. As for the listings on the LDS IGI, I have found the ones for the Walloon congregation at Thorney to be as accurate as the information published in the Huguenot Society Quarto series, which it must have come from - but they do not give the tremoins (witnesses) nor other details that may help research - also there were so many different spellings in the transcripts that I found it necessary to go back to the originals, but even there, in Latin, French, or English, the names are often not spelled the original way - I believe this is due in part to the Walloons' spelling names in their own Romand language (very like French but not the same language) and then to the settlement families having spent many years in the Netherlands before they went to Sandtoft and later to Thorney and its vicinity; but also because the pastors or elders did not write the name as it had been spelled in Artois, etc.- particularly in the later years of the settlement. Later when the register was transcribed from the Latin, the surnames took another turn, some very unusual. For instance the name TREGEDIN became TIGERDINE/TEGGERDINE and even TEAGARDEN. My people's name MARQUILLIER has become everything from MARKERLEY to MARKLEE so you must have a rather 'fluid' interpretation when you are looking for your surnames and take everything close until you can prove them one way or the other - de la Pierre I've seen as PIERE. And using the Soundex on the IGI doesn't always bring up the closest alternate spelling. I've found more just guessing differences, particularly on Census records and the IGI. Regards - Carol At 11:02 AM 8/12/00 -0700, you wrote: > Hello, listers -- > This is a (very late and slow) response to the 25 July post from Mike ><michael@hare9919.freeserve.co.uk> re: surname HARE (possibly once DE LA >HAIRE and ?Walloon in origin?). But, it's another example of how the IGI on >the LDS web site can turn up some interesting hints so I hope this is >helpful. snip> > Now to the IGI. For a start, there were *a lot* of listings with first >name Isaac or >Abraham. Thus my purely subjective and unsubstantiated conclusion (call it a >gut feeling) that there may well have been Huguenot or Walloon origins to >this name. As I've mentioned before, I've found that the names Abraham and >Isaac pop up regularly among French refugee families, even generations after >settling in England. Surname spellings varied -- HARE, HAIRE, DE HAIRE, DE >HERE, etc. > Has anyone out there had good results with the IGI? If so, I hope they >will post. Andrea

I am about to start researching the name SEARCEY which is one of my wife's. It is apparently Huguenot, the Searceys apparently settling in the Nottingham area as silk weavers. Early ones are in Widmerpool, Notts e.g. Isaac Searcey borne 13 May 1744. Apparently a Joseph SEARCEY borne in France 1666 and died 7 Oct 1733 is buried at Widmerpool. I understand that the name derives from a place called Serces (?) in France. I do not think the Notts Searceys can be closely related to Jacques SERCES (1695-1762) who was borne in Geneva, son of a French refugee Moise SERCES from Montmeyran in the Dauphine region. Jacques came around 1720 and was chaplain of the french chapel royal of st James. I would be interested to hear of anyone else researching this family or any other connections? Is there any thing written about Huguenots in Nottinghamshire? Regards Robert Adair

Hello to everyone on the list, This is to let you know that I am again willing to do a look up for surnames, this time in the church records for Plymouth (which is in Devon) as well as Bristol and Stonehouse (which are in Gloucestershire), both located in the southwestern part of England. These records are on LDS film # 0962137, and also in Vol. 20 of the Quarto series published by the Hug. Soc. of London. The churches are identified there as "French Episcopalian". As with my previous look-up offers earlier this month, I am again asking that the following format be followed. a) The request for look-up * must be* posted to the list and not sent to me privately. b) Requests for look-up **must have** a subject line like any of the following, to alert me to the fact that you are requesting the look-up, and which location you are interested in -- SURNAME > Plymouth, DEV, ENG Look-up request *or* SURNAME > Bristol & Stonehouse, GLS, ENG Look-up request *or* SURNAME > Plymouth, Bristol, Stonehouse, ENG Look-up request. c) Your request post must contain some *details* about your surname and the reasons for thinking they might be at this location. If you've done this already and recently, just refer to the date and subject line of your earlier post. I am asking that this procedure be followed because, as I have said before, everyone will be sharing their information yet, at the same time, making it clear that the post is a look-up request. And because I will post search results on the list, this will result in more sharing of information. I will attempt to do these look-ups as quickly as possible, but remember that I have some time constraints, ie. my local FHC has cut back to summer hours of one part-day (Tuesday) per week. Awaiting your look-up requests. Andrea

Has anyone seen the surname Mallet in Berlin or in other place in Germany.The time is in the period 1685-1700. After 1700 they came to Sweden. Regards Elisabeth Nyhammer-Gustavsson Sweden

I find that my roots are established in HENNUYERES near BRAINE-LE-CHATEAU in BELGIUM ON1790 but before they are coming from FRANCE?

In response to 18 Aug post from Elisabeth <nyhammer.gustavsson@tidaholm.mail.telia.com> re: surname MALLET in Germany 1685-1700, I am wondering if the following researcher might be of some help even though she is interested in the MALLETTE spelling. The 1998 GRD lists Dominique Allen who lives in Leicestershire, ENG. She is interested in MALLETTE in all time periods, in France and in Europe. Her e-mail is dlamaletie@aol.com. You never know what useful tidbits other researchers might have in their accumulated papers. The only MALLET listings I found in the same source (1998 & 1999) were interested in locations in England, not in Europe. For those subscribers who do not know about the GRD (Genealogical Research Directory), please access several posts on this subject in the list archives. Good luck! Andrea

Does anyone have the mailing code for Castellane, France? Possibly some has information on the Huguenot church there? If so, I would appreciate the the help. Thanks. Cal cgoerdel@concentric.net

Hello, list -- This post is in response to the look-up request from Chris <cleonardca@earthlink.net> on 5 Aug re: FRANCISCO surname in the church records of Thorpe-le-Soken, Essex, ENG. Just as a reminder, these records are in Vol. 20 of the Quarto series published by the Hug. Soc. of London and also on LDS film # 0962137. Sorry to say that I found no trace in these indexed records of this surname or any of the variants mentioned by Chris such as FRANCIS, FRANSOY, FRANCOIS, FRANCISKUS, VAN SISCO, VAN CISCO. The closest spelling I found was FRANCHAN -- only one baptism entry, as follows: 1693 Nov 16 Jeanne Elizabeth, ff. de Noel LEGROS et Jeanne FRANCHAN. Min. Mr. JOUNNEAU. P.: Francois CADET. M.: Elizabet CHAPEAU. Née 16e Nov. Chris, since you mentioned the possibility that your ancestor was from Essex and since you also mentioned an Amsterdam connection, you could next try Vol. 12 of the Quarto series which is -- Register of Baptisms in the Dutch Church at Colchester (also Essex), 1645 to 1728 (ed. by J. C. MOENS & William Chapman WALLER, pub. 1905). This is, of course, a transcript taken from the originals. It is available on either of these two LDS Films: # 962135 or also on #1594313 (ie. two different filmings of the same records). If you would rather examine the original records (ie. not a transcript), they are on any one of the following three LDS films -- # 413725 or # 571605 or 1519516. These are written in Dutch. I'm not sure why there are three separate filmings of the same records. Notice, by the way, that only the baptisms seemed to have survived. There is also a microfilm copy of these records at the Guildhall Library in London (Guildhall Library no.: MS 7384). Keep on trying and good luck! Andrea

Hello, list -- This is in response to the query from Martha <martha_a_mitchell@yahoo.com> on 14 Aug re: CUZNER. The 1999 GRD lists someone living in England who is doing a One Name Study of CUZNER. It might be worthwhile contacting him to see if he has info, particularly about the origins of this name. He is Roger Evans and, unfortunately, there is no e-mail listed. But his address is Chez Nous, 19 South View Road, Long Lawford, WAR (ie. Warwickshire) CV23 9BP. Hmmmm....could the "Chez Nous" in his address be a clue or just coincidence?? The listing states that he is interested in all variants, worldwide, "details sought and information shared". Martha, I think your theory that CUZNER could be a corruption of something like COUSINIER sounds plausible. Good luck. Andrea (on Vancouver Island, off the coast of western Canada, where it's also "moisty" after a grand total of about three weeks of wonderful summer weather.)

Hello, listers -- Yes, I'm back on my own computer which is finally fixed and in good shape. My apologies to all for sending that off-topic message yesterday about my predicament. I guess I was feeling a little nervous at having "my baby" (ie. the list) unattended for three whole days!! I also knew that others were waiting for replies off-list. Now, back to on-topic subjects. For those listers who are researching in the Channel Islands, there is quite a comprehensive web site called Channel Islands Genealogy which is at URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/ci.html . You will notice John Fuller's name in there. It's the very same John Fuller who has another site which I've mentioned before, ie. Genealogy Resources on the Internet, http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html. The Channel Islands are off the coast of Normandy but belong to the UK. They include the larger islands of Guernsey & Jersey, and three small ones: Alderney, Sark, and Herm. Among the information to be accessed on the Channel Islands site is -- Channel Islands Mailing List, Channel Islands Surname Interests List, Volunteers/Lookups and an Index to 1849 Map of Jersey. There are also *lots* of links to other sites which may be of interest. There is, for example, info about The Priaulx Library. There are a lot of French surnames to be found in Channel Islands research but not all are Huguenot in origin. Please check the list archives for previous posts about this geographical area. Hope this helps someone out there. Andrea

Hi all Just reposting interests in the surname GODEFROY in Normandy France, England,Canada. Regards Robin Godefroy England godefroy@clara.co.uk

Hi All Is anyone researching/seen the Marpele surname in Normandy France, esp in Rouen/Bolbec and Lintot areas, I am eager to find a Francoise Marpele who would have been born cirl 1680. Regards Robin Godefroy England godefroy@clara.co.uk

Hi to all listers -- Have you all noticed that I seemed to drop out of sight about three days ago?? The reason is that my e-mail program crashed on the evening of Sunday 13 Aug. Attempts to fix it here at home failed -- ie. my son, the family computer guru, was unable to help. So, my computer went to the fix-it shop yesterday and there it still lies, being worked over by various "experts" but still not fixed (it's nownow late Wednesday afternoon, PDT, 16 Aug.) I am sending this e-mail via my husband's computer. Obviously, I'll get back to you as soon as I can -- I'm keeping fingers crossed that it won't be long, in next day or so. In the meantime, I can monitor list posts through this computer so, everyone, please carry on as usual. Bye for now. Andrea

I'm interested in item #3 in Digest No 210, but being new to the digest am not sure how to read it or how to communicate with the writer (malinda jones). Can you help please? Bye, John Bouffler.

Searching family names Hanchard - circa 1646 +Picardy France, Holland and London. Abraham Dupont and Jeanne Beaudemont Spitfields, London, circa 1680+ Hego in Picardy France, Goujon in London, Brueil in Holland and London. Period 1650-1750. How can I find info from St Quentin, France pre 1700 Deceased distant cousin sent info pointing to that area. I dont speak a word of French so unsure how to go further. regards Michael Cheeseman Perth, Western Australia

To all members of the Huguenots-Walloons-mailinglist, My name is Fred Omvlee from the Netherlands, and I am researching the roots of the ONVLEE/OMVLEE family. From 1613 on this name appears in the Dutch parish-registers, mostly in LEIDEN, as members of the Eglise Wallone. The family is probably coming from the ARDENNES (B). The familyname is spelled in various ways: HONVLIJ, HONUILLES, HONULE, HOUVELE, HONVLÉ, HOVLÉ, ONFLÉ, HONULY, ONVLY, ONVLEY, HONVLIJ, HOUWLEE, HONVLEE, HOUVLE, HOUVLEE, HOUVLY, HOMVLEE, GONVLIJ, ONVLEE, HONVLEY, OMVLE, ONVLE, OMVLEE, HONVLIE. If someone has a connection, please contact me at: fromvlee@wishmail.net