As requested by John <postbus@compter.demon.nl>, here are the results of the look-up in the 2000 GRD for surnames COMPTER, COMMENTHER, COMPTOIR & COMPTUR. Sorry, but there were no listings under any of these surnames in either the 2000 or the 1999 editions of the GRD. Have you tried the genealogy search engine to see what turns up? It's at www.genealogyportal.com. May I remind listers that, in making these requests for GRD look-up, please put a SURNAME (in capital letters) in your subject line. Also, please include some details about these surnames, including locations and dates you are interested in. Thanks. Andrea

Re: my previous post today about offer to look-up surnames in GRD 2000. Forgot to mention that requests should include any spelling variants you want me to look for and, most important, a location that you are interested in (a country, at least, or something more specific if you have it). Sorry I forgot this the first time. Thanks. Andrea

Listers -- I have the 2000 edition of the GRD (Genealogical Research Directory) and am willing to do look-ups of surnames in it. If you would like me to look up a name or names for you, please post the request to the list, using a subject line such as the following: SURNAME(S) > GRD Look-up request In other words, *do not* use the one I have on this post, but change it accordingly by including at least one surname which will make it more specific. Please include some details of your surname in the same post. I will post any information I find on the list. For those who do not know what the GRD is, please access previous posts in the list archives which explain it. For example, there was a post on 28 July with subject line: GRD = what is it? There was also an earlier one in mid-March with subject line: GRD=valuable resource: What is it? (or something like that). Hoping to generate some posts from this offer. Keeping fingers crossed that things will get a bit more lively around here <g>. Andrea

Hello Everyone, I received some great news this morning. I have been searching for a book published on my VAN DER KEUR family from Leiden, Netherlands. Today I received an email from the author who is sending me a xerox copy of this book since he no longer has any more copies. I hope to find out from this information my Huguenot family. Once I have the information translated from Dutch to English, I will post any Huguenot names and information. Have a Great Day! Sue de Groot Toronto, Ontario, Canada sue.degroot@sympatico.ca

I also went to Lille archives in April this year and discovered alot about my ancestors who lived in Teteghem, Nord and the surrounding areas. I am searching for the family name BLAEVOET. If anyone wants some information about this family name, I shall email you all the information I have. Bernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Swain" <hswain@ix.netcom.com> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 7:03 AM Subject: [HWE] Re: Records: Nord, FRA & Flanders, BEL & Maps Hi all, At 05:14 PM 8/1/00 -0700, Andrea Vogel <andreav@island.net> wrote: > Listers -- > Here follows some info found through a Place Search for Lille, Nord, >France on the LDS web site (www.familysearch.org). Note that it also >includes info for other places in France, such as Béthune and Aire (both >Pas-de-Calais). As well, there is also some information for locations in >Belgium, ie. Mons (Liège) and Meenen (aka Menin) in West Flanders. These are >all in the border area between France and Belgium. > >Found under sub-heading Church Records (Lille) -- >1) Registres paroissiaux, 1708-1735, Eglise réformée de Lille, Nord, FRA. snip >2) Found under sub-heading History (Lille) -- >Kerkelijke geschiedenis,1706-1713, Waals Hervormde Kerk, Meenen, West >Vlaanderen, BEL & Lille, FRA. snip > Is anyone researching in these areas? Andrea I did a little bit of research in Armentières, following up on what Gwenn Epperson had done in tracing Mathieu Blanchan and Magdalena Joire. She had found their marriage and the baptism of a hitherto unknown child in the Roman Catholic Chruch there. see: "Magdalena Joire: A 'Mademoiselle from Armentières'," New York Genealogical and Biographical Record; vol. 122, no. 2 (April 1991) However, she didn't mention the baptism of dau. Catherine which I was interested in. I estimate she was born between 1634 and 1637. So, I got LDS film # 1,133,312 which has Baptêmes for 1612-1640 for the Eglise Catholique Paroisse d'Armentières. You may wonder why we were looking for people who were Huguenots (at least later) in the Catholic Church. Here is what Ms. Epperson says in her book New Netherland Roots, p. 95, speaking of France: "Protestant records also begin in the sixteenth century, but are very rare, since the records were illegal until 1789. Therefore, many Protestants are recorded in Catholic registers, as marriage by a Catholic priest was required to inherit property. The marriage of the couple will usually be found in the bride's home parish. Also, children were occasionally baptized in the Catholic Church to allay suspicion the parents were 'heretics.'" The records were in Latin in several different handwritings -- some were not very neat. But thanks to the example in Ms. Epperson's book, which had a transcription and a translation, I was a able to scan thru looking for a "Catherina filia Mattheus." The key for me was the Latin word "fuit" which preceded the child's name and then the filia or filius that separated the child's name from the father's. The f's tended to stand out on those words. I did find a Catherina filia Mathius, but the surname and the mother's name didn't look like what I needed. So, I came up empty; but it could have been there and I missed it. (I searched from a few months's after her parent's marriage thru 1639.) Also, At 11:03 AM 8/2/00 -0700, Andrea Vogel wrote: > Hi, everyone -- > This is a follow-up to my post yesterday (1 Aug) with subject line -- >Records: Nord, FRA & Flanders, BEL, about the records of Lille, Nord FRA and >other places in that area. snip >In Belgium: Tournai (Hainaut), Ieper (West Vlaanderen), Namur (Namur) >In France: Armentières (Nord) > I wanted to include the URL for an online map site which would show this >border area but couldn't find a good one. Anyone know of one? Andrea Sure. Try this: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/reference/maps/freeimages.asp?ImageID =242 Note: you may have to copy and paste to get the whole URL. Don't worry that the title is The Netherlands -- it goes all the way down to Artois and Hainaut. For your time period, you might also like this one: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/reference/maps/freeimages.asp?ImageID =276 Here is the main map page that has an assortment of maps available: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/reference/maps/ Scroll down to the "European Maps" selector box. The maps of the Low Countries are indexed under T for The Netherlands. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com ______________________________

Thanks to Sweeneys for source at Cornell. I found name of Philip Emanuel d'Ailly's father and praise for his father from Riker's book: "...the vidame, Louis D'Ailly, a noble exception, having with his family embraced the religion [Huguenot]. He encouraged the faithful who for a time met at his house for worship..." (p.64) Tom Dally ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Dally To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 9:45 AM Subject: DE LA MONTAGNE Hi! "La MONTAGNE was not his [Jean De La MONTAGNE 1595-1670)] family name, but an adjunct which finally took place of the former, and was originally derived from La Montagne - a district in Burgandy." NYGen&BioRec Vol 90 p.14 Tom Dally

Good news to report, everyone, concerning the Threaded Archives. (Those of you who have been here for a while will know that there has been a Threaded Archives problem since mid-March when Rootsweb ran out of disk space for it, resulting in many missing messages.) I just had a look at the Threaded Archives and was very pleasantly surprised. After many months of waiting, everything appears to be fixed. It also has a whole new appearance which is more user friendly. For one thing, there is no longer any requirement to type in a username and password. And, most importantly, all messages appear to be there -- finally!! -- including the great chunks missing in April, May and June. So, everyone, please have a look at the Threaded Archives for yourself at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L. Once there, you can choose the month you want to look at, and then choose to either have the subject lines arranged chronologically or by related subjects. Then click on a specific subject line in order to see the whole message. And, just so everyone is aware, the Keyword or Interactive Archives is still available, as an alternative way to search past messages. It was never "broken" and remains the same (no new design). You can search this archives by typing in one or more keywords. It's at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl. Finally, a comment about our September archives -- it's looking a bit empty, folks. List posts have been way down this month. (Where are you all??) Why don't we celebrate the new Threaded Archives by putting some really great posts into it during September?? Please think about it. Remember: a mailing list=sharing of info. But no postings=no sharing=dead list! Please help me to revive ours. Andrea

Hello, listers -- Here is Part 7 (and the last one of this series) of the surname extractions from the BT's (Bishop's Transcripts) of St. Peter Canterbury, which include 1796 to 1812. For anyone interested, these records do continue past 1812 but they are on another film which I haven't seen. The LDS film # for the BT's pre-1812 is 1736628. I hope these extractions have been of help to someone on the list. Please post to the list if they have. We'd like to hear about it! Andrea 1796 Jan 22 Bapt Charles, son of John & Caroline GASKIN "Privately Baptised at His Father's House in Graves Lane at three Quarters past 3 in the afternoon. Received into the Congregation 21 Feb 1796." 1796 Feb 21 Marr James DURYER, wid. of St. Alphege & Elizabeth GAMBIER, spr, otp, lic. 1796 Jne 26 Bapt Charlotte, dau of Andrew & Ester MINOT 1796 Jly 15 Bur John GORDELEIR from Westgate, age 66 years 1797 Feb 12 Bapt Sarah Ann, dau of Thomas & Sarah WHYBROW 1797 Jly 16 Bapt Edward, son of Edward & Mary RICQUEBOURG 1797 Oct 3 Bur Elizabeth, dau of Charles DUBLES, age 4 years 1797 Oct 15 Bapt William, son of Joseph & Elizabeth PETTIT,"born in this Parish tho since moved into the Parish of Westgate. Baptised at this Church." 1797 Nov 17 Bur Frances, dau of Charles DUBLES, age 2 years 1797 Nov 29 Bur William DE LANOY from the City Work House, age 22 years Note: the above entry also has a comment written below it --"Query whether this should not be Registered LEONARD, not DELANOY." 1797 Dec 26 Marr Sarah Cooper, wid, otp & George PLANK of Seasalter, bac, banns (ie. LE PLANCQ? or similar) 1798 Feb 4 Bapt Elizabeth, dau of Charles & Elizabeth DUBLESS 1798 May 28 Bapt Matilda Harriot, dau of Isaac & Mary HONREE, born 5 May "Privately Baptised at Her Father's Apartments in the Parsonage house of St. Peter's,12 at noon. Received into the Congregation 10 Jne." 1798 Oct 16 Marr Alice Carter, spr, otp & James PETERS "of the hamlet of Hoath in the parish of Reculver", bac, lic. 1798 Nov 11 Bapt Charles, son of Andrew & Hester MINOT "Born in North Lane in the parish of Holy Cross Westgate, was Baptised in this Church" 1799 Apr 11 Bapt Lydia, dau of William DELARTONE, Private in the Grenadier Company of the East Suffolk MIlitia & his wife Mary, "privately Baptised at her father's Lodgings in the Grey Friars in this Parish about seven in the Evening. Was received into the congregation 21 Apr." 1799 Apr 14 Bapt Mary Ann, baseborn dau of Catherine TEVELIN 1799 Jne 13 Bapt Thomas, son of Thomas & Sarah WHYBROW 1799 Nov 10 Bur Elizabeth, wife of Peter DELMAR, brought from Northgate 1801 Apr 12 Bapt, Mary Ann, dau of Andrew & Sarah PLANK 1801 Dec 2 Marr William Marshall, bac & Elizabeth POTTO, spr, botp, lic. 1802 Nov 29 Marr George Goodwin, wid. & Mary Ann DELMOTTE, wid, botp, banns 1803 Apr 10 Marr William Bailey, bac & Sarah TIVELAIN, spr, botp, banns Re: above entry -- on another page, in a different handwriting, the year is different, ie. 1804. 1803 Jne 19 Bapt Sarah Ann, dau of Isaac & Elizabeth CUTTEW (ie. may be something like COUTEAU?) 1803 Aug 7 Bapt John, son of John & Mary BORAINE 1803 Nov 16 Bapt Harriot, dau of Andrew & Sarah PLANK "brought from the Black Friars in this parish to my house in the Precincts of the Cathedral Church of Christ Canterbury, was there privately baptised (at) 4 in the Afternoon." 1803 Dec 1 Bur Mrs. Esther AGACE, widow, aged 80 years, from Clapton in Middlesex "buried in the Family Vault" 1804 Apr 18 Bur Mr. William JEUDWINE from Bethnal Green, London, aged 37 years 1804 Nov 5 Marr Sarah Austen, spr & John GASKIN, bac, botp, banns 1805 Jly 13 Marr Elizabeth Wootton, spr & James BOREE, bac, botp, banns 1805 Nov 10 Bapt Frederic, baseborn son of Hester FEVER 1806 Feb 26 Bapt Charles, son of Charles & Elizabeth DUBLES 1806 Oct 19 Bapt Charles, son of James & Elizabeth BOREE 1807 Mar 8 Bur William GODIER from Westgate, age 43 years 1807 Dec 20 Bapt Henry, son of James & Lucy Maria TEVELEIN 1808 Apr 17 Bapt James, son of James & Elizabeth BOREE 1808 Apr 24 Bur Charles, son of James & Elizabeth BOREE, age 18 months 1810 Apr 4 Bur Eleanor, wife of Isaac DEJARDINE, age 52, "brought from Westgate" 1810 Jne 10 Bapt Elizabeth, dau of James & Elizabeth BOREE 1810 Aug 5 Bapt Jane Homersham, baseborn dau of Elizabeth PLANK 1812 Jly 12 Bur Sarah FEVER, age 20 years 1812 Oct 8 Bur Isaac DEJARDAIN, age 54 years A last reminder -- please verify any info posted in this series with your own personal search in the original records. Do not rely solely on these extracts. I have tried to be as accurate and complete as possible but errors/omissions could easily have happened. End of Part 7, 1796-1812 Surname extracts, St Peter Canterbury

>My last Query about the WALDRON family in NEW AMSTERDAM was answered >by MIKE SWEENEY, who supplied a Cornell U. site wiyh downloadable info >that was very useful in my research. Thanks, Mike John Garrett

my guess is that both 'half anter' and 'half an our' are misprints for 'half an hour.' >> Baptised an Half 'anter' (??) after Six in the Evening at His father's >> Lodgings at The Parsonage House of St. Peter in this City. Received into ye >> Congregation 15 Nov." >> 1795 Dec 3 Bapt Frances, dau of Charles & Elizabeth DU BLES, "Privately >> Baptised at Her Father's House in St. Peter's Lane half an our after 3 in >> The afternoon. Received in The Congregation 3 Jan 1796." >> -- "Three-fourths of philosophy & literature is the talk of people trying to convince themselves that they really like the cage they were tricked into entering." ~Gary Snyder, Zen Anarchist Poet ---------- >From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> >To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HWE] St. Peter, Canterbury > SURNAME extracts, 1781-1795 (Part 6) >Date: Sun, Sep 10, 2000, 10:27 AM > > Listers -- > Here is Part 6 (1781-1796) of the surname extracts from the BT's of St. > Peter, Canterbury, Kent, ENG. Please refer to my previous postings on this > topic for explanations, comments, cautions re: these records. > Please post to the list if you have further info, comments or > connections. Thanks. Andrea > > 1781 Jan 10 Bur Daniel DE GROOT, age 50 years > 1781 Apr 22 Bapt Francies, dau of William & Mary TURMAYNE > 1782 Jan 6 Bur Henry ESSINHIGH, age 59 years > 1782 Jan 13 Bur Phillip RIQUEBOURG, age 49 years > 1782 May 26 Bapt Thomas, son of William & Mary TURMAYNE > 1782 Aug 23 Bur Sarah LENALVE, age 60 years > 1782 Sep 1 Bapt Ann, dau of Thomas & Mary FARQUET > c1782 James JEUDWINE named in records as churchwarden. > 1783 Mar 6 Bur Jacob AGACE, age 62 years > Note: there are AGACE surnames listed in the records of the Threadneedle > Street Church tésmoignages. > 1783 Aug 3 Bur John DE LANOY, age 27 years > 1784 Jan 4 Bapt Ann, dau of John & Ann RUE > 1784 Feb 19 Marr William Moss of St. Mildred & Jane PILLOW, otp, lic. > 1784 Feb -- Bur Mary ROZEE, age 63 years > 1784 Mar 28 Bur James JEUDWINE, age 45 years > 1784 Apr 22 Marr William Badcock & Mary ESSINHIGH, botp, banns > 1784 Oct 4 Bapt Crispin Thomas, son of Thomas & Ann FORQUET > 1784 Nov 5 Bapt Edward, son of Edward & Maria PILLOW > 1785 Jne 5 Bapt Elizabeth Ann, dau of Samuel & Ann RUE > 1785 Aug 11 Marr Sarah Streeter & Moris ESSENHIGH, botp, banns > 1785 Sep 11 Bapt John, son of John & Ann RUE > 1786 Mar 28 Bur Elizabeth FLAHOUT, age 75 years > 1786 Oct 8 Marr Charlotte CAREY & Andrew MINOTT, bac., botp, spr, banns > 1786 Oct 29 Bur Susanna RIQUEBOURG, age 48 years > 1787 Aug 12 Bapt Charlotte, dau of Marke & Susanna DUREE (privately > baptised on this date, then received into the congregation 2 Sept) > 1787 Aug 26 Bapt Samuel, son of Samuel & Ann RUE > 1788 Jne 1 Bapt Mary Ann, dau of Robert & Ann DEJARDIN > 1788 Aug 5 Marr William Gradidge of St. Alphege, wid. & Harriot Alexander > JEUDWINE, spr, otp, lic. > 1788 Nov 27 Marr Benjamin Graydon of St. Andrew's & Caroline BOUDRY, > wid., banns > 1789 Feb 22 Bapt Hannah, dau of Daniel & Nancy LEPINE > 1789 Apr 27 Bur Mr. Peter DE LASAUX, "Proctor in the Consistory Court of > His Grace the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury and one of the Registers to the > Rev. the Arch Deacon of Canterbury, age 45 years. Buried in the Chancel of > this Church." > 1789 Jne 21 Bapt Joseph Knight, son of John & Mary ?CRIEPEE? > 1789 Jly 17 Bur Mr. John DE LANOY, aged 74 years, from East Langdon > 1789 Oct 26 Bur Samuel, son of Samuel RUE, age 2 years > 1789 Nov 3 Bapt Samuel & John, sons of Samuel & Ann RUE "privately > baptised at Theyr father's House at Half past four In the Afternoon. Dead." > Comment: In spite of the word "dead" the above entry, these infants would > have been alive at the time of the baptism but they died less than two weeks > later, see entry below. Remember that these records (BT's) are a copy of the > originals (PR's) so the person doing the copying would have the knowledge > that these infants later died and noted that fact by writing the comment > "dead" in the baptism record. Also, re: infants baptised privately, usually > at the parents' home instead of in the church -- this was done shortly after > birth if the child was sickly and not expected to live very long. If the > child survived, then he/she would be "received into the congregation" at a > later date. > 1789 Nov 14 Bur Samuel & John, twin sons of Samuel RUE, age 2 weeks > 1790 May 12 Bur Mr. Peter JEUDWINE, age 76 years > 1790 May 30 Bapt Sarah, dau of Michael & Elizabeth DEVINE "This Child > Born in North Lane, Westgate Without." > Note: I believe that "without" in this case means outside of the city walls, > and/or possibly outside of the parish of (Holy Cross) Westgate. > 1790 Jly 11 Marr Henry FUR (FOR? FAR?), bac. of Holy Cross Westgate "but > Without the Gate", bac. & Elizabeth CAREY, spr, otp, banns > 1790 Aug 17 Marr Richard Young of Chatham in the Diocese of Rochester, > bac, & Ann ESSINHIGH, otp, spr, a minor, with Consent of Her Mother, Mary > ESSINHIGH, widow, by licence. > 1791 Mar 18 Bapt Ann, dau of Samuel & Ann RUE "privately Baptised at Her > Father's House in the Grey Friars three-quarters past 11 in the forenoon, > Received into the Congregation 3 Apr." > 1791 Apr 1 Bur Mrs. Margaret JEUDWINE, widow of the late Mr. Peter > JEUDWINE, age 79 years > 1791 Apr 4 Marr John Webb of St. Nicholas Rochester, bac. & Elizabeth > RIQUEBOURG, spr, otp, lic. > 1791 Jly 26 Bur Charles, son of John GASCOGNE, alias GASKIN, age 1 month > 1791 Sep 8 Marr John Halsey, wid, otp & Sarah DESPAIGNE, widow, of St. > Dunstan's "in the Suburb of this City", by licence. > 1792 Aug 19 Marr Esther James, spr "of Holy Cross Westgate but Without > the Gate" & Andrew MINOTT, wid, otp, lic. > 1792 Sep 14 Bur Peter LOUBERT, Esquire, from Holy Cross, age 76 years > 1792 Sep 18 Marr Fanny Turner, spr & William GASKIN, bac, botp, banns > 1792 Oct 16 Bur Mrs. Jane DES BARRES, widow, age 48 years, "was Buried in > this Church yard". > 1792 Nov 19 Marr Mary Halsey, spr & Isaac HONOREE, bac, botp, lic. > 1792 Dec 9 Bapt Elizabeth, dau of Isaac & Mary HONEREE, "privately > Baptised at Half an our past 12 at noon. Received into the Congregation on > 13 Jan 1793." > 1793 Feb 10 Bapt Jane, dau of John William & Caroline GASKIN > 1793 Jly 14 Bapt Elizabeth, dau of Charles & Elizabeth DU BLES > 1793 Sep 8 Bapt susanna, dau of Andrew & Hester MINOT > 1793 Oct 10 Marr James LEMOYNE, bac. of St. Mary's, Faversham & Charlotte > FOURRCE (or FOURREE?), spr, otp, banns, "The Service Read in french". > 1794 Mar 9 Bur Jane, dau of John William GASKIN, age 14 months > 1794 Aug 7 Marr John Hussy, bac. of Saint Alphege In This City & > Elizabeth TEVELAIN, spr, otp, banns. (Their daughter Sarah "Privately > Baptised at Her Father's House in the Black Fryers [sic] in This Parish 25 > May 1795 at 6 in The Evening. Received into the Congregation 7 June 1795.") > 1794 Nov 26 Bapt Jane, dau of Charles & Elizabeth DU BLES, "privately > Baptised at Her Father's House about 12 at noon. Dead." > 1794 Dec 14 Bur Jane, dau of Charles DU BLES, age 7 weeks > 1795 Jly 5 Bapt William, son of Thomas & Sarah WHYBROW > 1795 Oct 23 Bapt Isaac James, son of Isaac & Mary HONREE "Privtely > Baptised an Half 'anter' (??) after Six in the Evening at His father's > Lodgings at The Parsonage House of St. Peter in this City. Received into ye > Congregation 15 Nov." > 1795 Dec 3 Bapt Frances, dau of Charles & Elizabeth DU BLES, "Privately > Baptised at Her Father's House in St. Peter's Lane half an our after 3 in > The afternoon. Received in The Congregation 3 Jan 1796." > > End of Part 6, 1781-1795 > Surname extracts, St. Peter Canterbury > > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Be a participating subscriber! 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Listers -- Here is Part 6 (1781-1796) of the surname extracts from the BT's of St. Peter, Canterbury, Kent, ENG. Please refer to my previous postings on this topic for explanations, comments, cautions re: these records. Please post to the list if you have further info, comments or connections. Thanks. Andrea 1781 Jan 10 Bur Daniel DE GROOT, age 50 years 1781 Apr 22 Bapt Francies, dau of William & Mary TURMAYNE 1782 Jan 6 Bur Henry ESSINHIGH, age 59 years 1782 Jan 13 Bur Phillip RIQUEBOURG, age 49 years 1782 May 26 Bapt Thomas, son of William & Mary TURMAYNE 1782 Aug 23 Bur Sarah LENALVE, age 60 years 1782 Sep 1 Bapt Ann, dau of Thomas & Mary FARQUET c1782 James JEUDWINE named in records as churchwarden. 1783 Mar 6 Bur Jacob AGACE, age 62 years Note: there are AGACE surnames listed in the records of the Threadneedle Street Church tésmoignages. 1783 Aug 3 Bur John DE LANOY, age 27 years 1784 Jan 4 Bapt Ann, dau of John & Ann RUE 1784 Feb 19 Marr William Moss of St. Mildred & Jane PILLOW, otp, lic. 1784 Feb -- Bur Mary ROZEE, age 63 years 1784 Mar 28 Bur James JEUDWINE, age 45 years 1784 Apr 22 Marr William Badcock & Mary ESSINHIGH, botp, banns 1784 Oct 4 Bapt Crispin Thomas, son of Thomas & Ann FORQUET 1784 Nov 5 Bapt Edward, son of Edward & Maria PILLOW 1785 Jne 5 Bapt Elizabeth Ann, dau of Samuel & Ann RUE 1785 Aug 11 Marr Sarah Streeter & Moris ESSENHIGH, botp, banns 1785 Sep 11 Bapt John, son of John & Ann RUE 1786 Mar 28 Bur Elizabeth FLAHOUT, age 75 years 1786 Oct 8 Marr Charlotte CAREY & Andrew MINOTT, bac., botp, spr, banns 1786 Oct 29 Bur Susanna RIQUEBOURG, age 48 years 1787 Aug 12 Bapt Charlotte, dau of Marke & Susanna DUREE (privately baptised on this date, then received into the congregation 2 Sept) 1787 Aug 26 Bapt Samuel, son of Samuel & Ann RUE 1788 Jne 1 Bapt Mary Ann, dau of Robert & Ann DEJARDIN 1788 Aug 5 Marr William Gradidge of St. Alphege, wid. & Harriot Alexander JEUDWINE, spr, otp, lic. 1788 Nov 27 Marr Benjamin Graydon of St. Andrew's & Caroline BOUDRY, wid., banns 1789 Feb 22 Bapt Hannah, dau of Daniel & Nancy LEPINE 1789 Apr 27 Bur Mr. Peter DE LASAUX, "Proctor in the Consistory Court of His Grace the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury and one of the Registers to the Rev. the Arch Deacon of Canterbury, age 45 years. Buried in the Chancel of this Church." 1789 Jne 21 Bapt Joseph Knight, son of John & Mary ?CRIEPEE? 1789 Jly 17 Bur Mr. John DE LANOY, aged 74 years, from East Langdon 1789 Oct 26 Bur Samuel, son of Samuel RUE, age 2 years 1789 Nov 3 Bapt Samuel & John, sons of Samuel & Ann RUE "privately baptised at Theyr father's House at Half past four In the Afternoon. Dead." Comment: In spite of the word "dead" the above entry, these infants would have been alive at the time of the baptism but they died less than two weeks later, see entry below. Remember that these records (BT's) are a copy of the originals (PR's) so the person doing the copying would have the knowledge that these infants later died and noted that fact by writing the comment "dead" in the baptism record. Also, re: infants baptised privately, usually at the parents' home instead of in the church -- this was done shortly after birth if the child was sickly and not expected to live very long. If the child survived, then he/she would be "received into the congregation" at a later date. 1789 Nov 14 Bur Samuel & John, twin sons of Samuel RUE, age 2 weeks 1790 May 12 Bur Mr. Peter JEUDWINE, age 76 years 1790 May 30 Bapt Sarah, dau of Michael & Elizabeth DEVINE "This Child Born in North Lane, Westgate Without." Note: I believe that "without" in this case means outside of the city walls, and/or possibly outside of the parish of (Holy Cross) Westgate. 1790 Jly 11 Marr Henry FUR (FOR? FAR?), bac. of Holy Cross Westgate "but Without the Gate", bac. & Elizabeth CAREY, spr, otp, banns 1790 Aug 17 Marr Richard Young of Chatham in the Diocese of Rochester, bac, & Ann ESSINHIGH, otp, spr, a minor, with Consent of Her Mother, Mary ESSINHIGH, widow, by licence. 1791 Mar 18 Bapt Ann, dau of Samuel & Ann RUE "privately Baptised at Her Father's House in the Grey Friars three-quarters past 11 in the forenoon, Received into the Congregation 3 Apr." 1791 Apr 1 Bur Mrs. Margaret JEUDWINE, widow of the late Mr. Peter JEUDWINE, age 79 years 1791 Apr 4 Marr John Webb of St. Nicholas Rochester, bac. & Elizabeth RIQUEBOURG, spr, otp, lic. 1791 Jly 26 Bur Charles, son of John GASCOGNE, alias GASKIN, age 1 month 1791 Sep 8 Marr John Halsey, wid, otp & Sarah DESPAIGNE, widow, of St. Dunstan's "in the Suburb of this City", by licence. 1792 Aug 19 Marr Esther James, spr "of Holy Cross Westgate but Without the Gate" & Andrew MINOTT, wid, otp, lic. 1792 Sep 14 Bur Peter LOUBERT, Esquire, from Holy Cross, age 76 years 1792 Sep 18 Marr Fanny Turner, spr & William GASKIN, bac, botp, banns 1792 Oct 16 Bur Mrs. Jane DES BARRES, widow, age 48 years, "was Buried in this Church yard". 1792 Nov 19 Marr Mary Halsey, spr & Isaac HONOREE, bac, botp, lic. 1792 Dec 9 Bapt Elizabeth, dau of Isaac & Mary HONEREE, "privately Baptised at Half an our past 12 at noon. Received into the Congregation on 13 Jan 1793." 1793 Feb 10 Bapt Jane, dau of John William & Caroline GASKIN 1793 Jly 14 Bapt Elizabeth, dau of Charles & Elizabeth DU BLES 1793 Sep 8 Bapt susanna, dau of Andrew & Hester MINOT 1793 Oct 10 Marr James LEMOYNE, bac. of St. Mary's, Faversham & Charlotte FOURRCE (or FOURREE?), spr, otp, banns, "The Service Read in french". 1794 Mar 9 Bur Jane, dau of John William GASKIN, age 14 months 1794 Aug 7 Marr John Hussy, bac. of Saint Alphege In This City & Elizabeth TEVELAIN, spr, otp, banns. (Their daughter Sarah "Privately Baptised at Her Father's House in the Black Fryers [sic] in This Parish 25 May 1795 at 6 in The Evening. Received into the Congregation 7 June 1795.") 1794 Nov 26 Bapt Jane, dau of Charles & Elizabeth DU BLES, "privately Baptised at Her Father's House about 12 at noon. Dead." 1794 Dec 14 Bur Jane, dau of Charles DU BLES, age 7 weeks 1795 Jly 5 Bapt William, son of Thomas & Sarah WHYBROW 1795 Oct 23 Bapt Isaac James, son of Isaac & Mary HONREE "Privtely Baptised an Half 'anter' (??) after Six in the Evening at His father's Lodgings at The Parsonage House of St. Peter in this City. Received into ye Congregation 15 Nov." 1795 Dec 3 Bapt Frances, dau of Charles & Elizabeth DU BLES, "Privately Baptised at Her Father's House in St. Peter's Lane half an our after 3 in The afternoon. Received in The Congregation 3 Jan 1796." End of Part 6, 1781-1795 Surname extracts, St. Peter Canterbury

Hi, Andrea and fellow Listers. I am enquiring about the name Ebzery or D'Ebzery. Irish genealogists all say the name is PROBABLY of Huguenot origin but no one can find the necessary "proof". The earliest documentation I have that first mentions: John Ebzery. Jane Richards 10.02.1657 Londonerry Templemore Derry Cathedral 11.2.1977 m 7000431 - 0365 (Although I have no idea what this end date and numbers mean. This entry comes from a long list of Ebzery records from the eighteenth and nineteenth century which someone in the family obviously has colated) The two other earliest dates are : Ebzery, Mary Phillip 21.05.1658 Londonerry Templemore Derry Cathedral 18.6.1875 L.g. 2.9.1975 L.g 2.10 1975 c 700431 - 1055 Then:: Ebzery Phillip Mary Osburne 17 02 1656 Londonerry Templemore Derry cathedral 17.2.1977 SL m 700 431 -0317 Perhaps some other searchers may have come across some clues that can confirm the family oral history of the Ebzerys having been Huguenots. Even an explanation of the end dates and numbers would be appreciated. i have never been to Londonerry and wonder if the records there might prove enlightening. I hope is the way to post a listing, Andrea, as I have deleted the original information posted to me. regards, Kath Hastings, Australia.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C01A62.35065AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those interested in the Six Family: the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam is exhibiting the "wardrobe"of the family. www.rijksmuseum.nl (available in English) the press release: The Six Gift Regents in Costume In the winter of 2000/2001 the Rijksmuseum will present over 100 outstanding pieces from the exceptionally rich collection of costumes and accessories assembled by the well-known Six family of Amsterdam regents. Including photos of the family, the presentation gives a colourful and wide-ranging picture of the life of the wealthy on the canals of Amsterdam and at their country houses along the River Vecht and in the Gooi region between the 18th and 20th centuries. Regents in costume. The Six gift will be on view from 9 September 2000 to 11 March 2001 in the South Wing of the Rijksmuseum. In 1978 members of the aristocratic Six family donated over 500 costumes and accessories to the Rijksmuseum. It was the only such ensemble in the Netherlands to have been preserved complete. The reason for this was that the items marked important events in the life of this prominent family. The exhibition presents a superb selection from this gift, such as wedding dresses, including the broadest dress in the Netherlands, and parts of the costume of a Garde d'Honneur of Napoleon. Restrained court costumes, colourful Kashmir shawls, richly embroidered bags and shoes, Japonse rokken and jewellery are also shown. As well as family heirlooms, there are very old costumes acquired at auction. These were used among other things for the tableaux vivants in one of the family houses or for the costume parties at the private 'Casino' club in Amsterdam. The old photos in the exhibition show how the costumes were worn on these occasions and by whom. In the accompanying Rijksmuseum dossier factual information alternates with excerpts from diaries, letters, inventories and cash books, again creating a lively picture of the life of the Six family. The dossier is richly illustrated with remarkable photos by the leading fashion photographer Tom van Heel and stylist Maarten Spruyt. It also includes previously unpublished material which has been kindly made available by the Six family. The exhibition is part of the programme of celebrations marking the Rijksmuseum's bicen

Hello Everyone, Okay, so I have been lurking all summer long and have not made a posting in a number of months. I am guilty of enjoying what little summer we have had in Southern Ontario. I did read John Peter's book, "A Family >From Flanders" which I borrowed from the local library. It is a very good read for anyone searching for their Huguenot ancestors, even if it does not cover the time period or names you are researching. Here are my interests: My VAN DER KEUR ancestors are said to be of Huguenot descent and the name was originally DE LA COEUR. I have been able to trace my ancestors to: Arij VAN DER KEUR, born circa 1685/1690 in the Netherlands (either Leiden or 's Gravenhage), death Mar 1724 in Leiden, Netherlands married 31 Aug 1710 at Peiterskerk in Leiden to Tanneke Pieters(dr) DE GROET, born 1679, death 1746. Children: Class, Jacobus, Magdalena, Kaatje, Tanneken, Tanneke, Hendrik and Pieter. On Sept 1, Andrea made a posting with names from the BT's of St. Peter's in Canterbury, Eng. There were two names posted that caught my eye and I am wondering if they might be alternative spellings the name DE LA COEUR. The postings were: 1688 Sep 30 Bur Stephen DE NA COURE 1695 Nov 14 Bur Jacob LE COURE Any thoughts or suggestions as to where I might search for more information would be appreciated. Sue de Groot

Hi! "La MONTAGNE was not his [Jean De La MONTAGNE 1595-1670)] family name, but an adjunct which finally took place of the former, and was originally derived from La Montagne - a district in Burgandy." NYGen&BioRec Vol 90 p.14 Tom Dally

NY Gen & Bio Society Records Vol 90 p. 2 "A promise to certain Walloons and French dated 5 feb 1621 petition to settle in VA 50 or 60 families Walloon & French, all of reformed religion. Signatures of Mousnier de la MONTAGNE Sr., apothecary & surgeon; & Jr., medical student [who quite Lyden {Leiden} Univ]; Jan DeCROY (CRAY); Pierre QUESNEE (CHESNE), Jesse DEFOREST, Jan GILLE (VERBRUGGE); Jan DE TROU (de TRIEUX), Jean CAMPION, & Philippe CAMPION. also a reference to Henry G. Bayer's book THE BELGIAN FIRST SETTLERS IN NEW YORK (1925). Tom Dally [I know Dr. Jean De La MONTAGNE settled in New Amsterdam and had a farm in Haarlem (outside boundries of NA)]

According to family tradition my surname was DE LA MONTAGNE meaning "of the moun- tain.'" Over the generations the name was spelled all different ways LAMONT,LEMONT and our way LEMONTE I have traced my line back to ca 1822 in Newburgh, Orange County, New York. My gr-gr-grandfather's name was John LAMONT. This is where I hit the wall. The story is that we were Huguenots and first went to Ireland and then to the states. John's son was William Henry LEMONTE and his son Burges Avalon LEMONTE; my Dad was Quintan Burges LEMONTE Any advice or information would be much appreciated. Thank you. Diane LeMonte Sweeney Charane@aol.com

John, Go to this web site, http://library5.library.cornell.edu/ Cornell Univ. is doing research on Harlem. On that site is a book written by James Riker. If I remember correctly here is how you get thru the mase to find the book. Click Manufacturing icon, click search, type in Waldron, select books. Book #8 should be the History of Harlem. It is downloadable. Good Luck. Mike

Greetings Listers, Can anyone shed light on the authenticity of the claim of nobility by the WALDRON family? According to our family genealogy, BARON RESOLVE WALDRON was born in Waldron Hall in old Amsterdam, Holland in 1608. He is said to be the original owner and Patentee of the HARLEM lands in NEW HARLEM on MANHATTAN ISLAND. He married REBECCA HENDRICKS in 1646, who died in 1652. His second wife was LADY TANNEKE VON NAGLE, daughter of BARON VON NAGLE of AMSTERDAM, in 1654. One of the children of the second union was ANNETJE WALDRON, who married JOHANNES DELA MONTAGNE, grandson of DR. JOHANNES DELA MONTAGNE and RACHEL DEFOREST. I am eager to either prove or disprove this link to Nobility. Any and all help on the abovementioned would be greatly appreciated. My e-mail address : <<dearol@pioneeris.net>> John Garrett

Hi -- I am posting this info because it may help someone who is researching ancestors who fled from France to the Netherlands. This was found on the LDS site (www.familysearch.org) under a Place Search for France, with sub-heading Emigration and Immigration. The records are -- Burgers,1673-1728 (Citizens of the Netherlands mostly refugees from France). It's written in Dutch and is available on LDS film # 106804. I believe there is a copy at the Bibliothèque Wallonne in Leiden and the original is held at Rijksarchief te 's-Gravenhage (State Archives in The Hague). To find out if anything else on this same film is relevent to Huguenot research, go to the LDS site. Click on Custom Search (blue tab at top right) > click on Family History Catalog (FHL) > click on All Searches & then on Film/Fiche Search. Type in the film number and a complete listing of everything on that film will appear. For other records related to this topic, please look under the following headings and sub-headings with Place Search -- Netherlands - Naturalization and citizenship Netherlands - Minorities Netherlands - Emigration and immigration France - Emigration and immigration Huguenots - Netherlands Walloons - Netherlands And, also for Netherlands research, don't forget the Dutch State Archives at: http://www-lias.rad.archief.nl and as well as the Centraal Bureau voor Genealogie (The Hague) at: www.cbg.nl. Anyone out there researching Netherlands?? Andrea