Hi, I'm new to the list. Just sign-on early today. As a Belgium Walloon I would like to know why at the Huguenots and Walloons together on the list. Huguenots are French Protestants and Walloons are catholic. Is there some connection between these two groups? My mother has never really told me much about the Walloons, since we have lived in the US most of my life. Thanks/merci, Michèle When answering, please leave original message along with all replies to jog my memory. WW2 War Brides Experience http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710/WarBrides.html KIDD KONNECTIONS: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710 THOMAS FAMILY GENEALOGY: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas

hi andrea, i've been sick and if i got an email about these lookups i must have lost it...could you check for Francisco? thanks, chris -- "A mood is with me...It tells me I'm a fool, and more than that, college is a national lie... I don't want your slimy degrees. I want stuff I can use when I want to write." ~John Gardner, "Lies! Lies! Lies!" ---------- >From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> >To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HWE] LE PINE, (DE) LEPINE, etc. > GRD Look-up results >Date: Thu, Sep 21, 2000, 1:48 PM > > OK, all you (very very quiet) folks out there -- > Here is a further GRD 2000 look-up, this time for Jan > <JanIsobel@aol.com>. > Her request on 15 Sept mentioned surnames DE LEPINE, DE L'EPINE, DELEPINE, > LEPINE, LE PINE, L'EPINE, DELESPINE, LESPINE, L'ESPINE in locations UK and > FRA, time period 1500 -1900. > > For all of the spellings mentioned above, I found no listings except for > LEPINE -- I found two listings for that one, as follows (they are also in > the 1999 edition): > 1) researching Jean LEPINE, pre-1700 Canterbury -- Sheri Warren, Warriors > Rest, Sunny Way, St. Lawrence, Essex CM0 7PA, ENG (no e-mail). > 2) researching pre-1800 Canterbury -- Sam Coley, who is a subscriber to this > list <sam.coley@lineone.net>. Perhaps he's contacted you already, Jan? > A third listing for LEPINE was found in the 1999 GRD only. This is > another researcher in Essex and he's interested in pre-1880, East London, > ENG -- > Mr. J.P. Hart-Wilden, 2 Lubbards Close, Rayleigh, Essex SS6 9PY. But, sadly, > no e-mail. > Some further bits of info re: LEPINE (which seems to be the most common > spelling that I've encountered, at least in Kent). Here are a couple of > entries I came across in the BT's for Canterbury St. Andrew (for dates > 1776-1812 only). > 1777 Mar 18 Burial James LEPINE, infant > 1777 Jly 25 Bapt Alice, dau of John & Alice LEPINE > I am just now going through the BT's of Canterbury All Saints where > there are quite a few LEPINE names. I'll post those in the near future, just > as soon as I get them organized. So stay tuned. Andrea > > >> >>I have found that there are plenty of people researching the above names in >>Canada (1600's onwards). These are of no particular interest to me as "my >>lot" stayed in UK - I made the first move to Canada from UK (that I am > aware >>of!). >> >>Thank you for all of your great work on our behalf. >> >>Regards, >>Jan Zwarick > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Be a participating subscriber! Post your surname interests often. > Once a month is about right, or more often if you have new details. > Address your post to HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit ROOTS-L, the Internet's oldest and largest genealogical > mailing list: > http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/ > >

OK, all you (very very quiet) folks out there -- Here is a further GRD 2000 look-up, this time for Jan <JanIsobel@aol.com>. Her request on 15 Sept mentioned surnames DE LEPINE, DE L'EPINE, DELEPINE, LEPINE, LE PINE, L'EPINE, DELESPINE, LESPINE, L'ESPINE in locations UK and FRA, time period 1500 -1900. For all of the spellings mentioned above, I found no listings except for LEPINE -- I found two listings for that one, as follows (they are also in the 1999 edition): 1) researching Jean LEPINE, pre-1700 Canterbury -- Sheri Warren, Warriors Rest, Sunny Way, St. Lawrence, Essex CM0 7PA, ENG (no e-mail). 2) researching pre-1800 Canterbury -- Sam Coley, who is a subscriber to this list <sam.coley@lineone.net>. Perhaps he's contacted you already, Jan? A third listing for LEPINE was found in the 1999 GRD only. This is another researcher in Essex and he's interested in pre-1880, East London, ENG -- Mr. J.P. Hart-Wilden, 2 Lubbards Close, Rayleigh, Essex SS6 9PY. But, sadly, no e-mail. Some further bits of info re: LEPINE (which seems to be the most common spelling that I've encountered, at least in Kent). Here are a couple of entries I came across in the BT's for Canterbury St. Andrew (for dates 1776-1812 only). 1777 Mar 18 Burial James LEPINE, infant 1777 Jly 25 Bapt Alice, dau of John & Alice LEPINE I am just now going through the BT's of Canterbury All Saints where there are quite a few LEPINE names. I'll post those in the near future, just as soon as I get them organized. So stay tuned. Andrea > >I have found that there are plenty of people researching the above names in >Canada (1600's onwards). These are of no particular interest to me as "my >lot" stayed in UK - I made the first move to Canada from UK (that I am aware >of!). > >Thank you for all of your great work on our behalf. > >Regards, >Jan Zwarick

Dear Andrea: Appreciate a GRD lookup for TOURNEUR later TOURNEAURE Descended from Etienne Tourneur, born 1580, France France - the Netherlands - US Thank you.. Philip Johnson

Hello, list -- thought I would give everyone a wee break from my look-up posts and do something else. So.....here are some surnames extracts taken from the BT's (Bishop's Transcripts) of the parish of St. Paul in Canterbury. It's similar to posts I have done in the past for Canterbury parishes of St. George, St. Margaret & St. Peter. This info is to be found on LDS film # 1736628, which begins at 1730 (the earlier dates are on another film). This is Part 1, covering dates 1730-1750. This was not one of the Canterbury churches which was heavily attended by the refugees but there are still quite a few names of interest. Notice how some of the same names keep popping up from previously posted parishes. Please remember my earlier cautions re: these extracts, ie. verify any info from original records for yourself. Also, I don't know for sure if the following names are Huguenot/Walloon in origin -- I am merely making guesses, picking the "possibles & probables". I could be wrong. Hope this helps somebody. Andrea 1730 Apr 17 Bapt Henry, son of John & Ann PICARD 1730 Aug 6 Bur Henry PICARD 1730 Oct 4 Marr Ann Drayson of Kingstone & Cluborne SABINE 1730 Nov 27 Marr John Saffery & Bennet DESPAIGNE of St. Margaret's 1730/1 Mar 12 Bapt Lewis, son of Mr. Lewis PETERS & wife Sarah Note: above PETERS surname = variant of DE LE or DE LA PIERRE? 1731 Apr 29 Bapt Sarah, dau of John & Ann CARDEN (ie. CARDON?) 1731 May 9 Bapt John, son of John & Ann PICARD 1731 Sep 9 Bapt Sarah, dau of Edward & Elizabeth TERRY (ie. DE THIERRY?) 1731/2 Mar 19 Bur John PICARD 1732 May 28 Bur Sarah TERRY 1732 Nov 12 Bapt Martha, dau of William & Martha HOOK (ie. LE HOUCQ?) 1732 Nov 19 Bapt John, son of Isaac & Philadelphia PARRAN (ie. PARENT?) 1732/3 Feb 11 Bapt Henry, son of John & Ann PICARD 1733 Jly 15 Bur Goodman CARDON Note: in the above entry, Goodman is not a first name but a term or title of respect. 1733/4 Feb 4 Bapt John, son of John & Ann PICARD 1733/4 Mar 14 Bur Henry PICARD 1734 Jly 8 Bapt Edward, son of Edward & Elizabeth TERRY (var. DE THIERRY?) 1734 Dec 1 Bapt Mary, dau of Isaac & Philadelphia PARAN 1734 Dec 1 Bur John PILLION 1734/5 Jan 18 Bapt John, son of William & Martha HOOK 1734/5 Jan 24 Bapt Henry, son of Henry & Mary GASKIN (ie. GASCOIGNE?) 1735 Apr 12 Bapt Hester, dau of John & Ann PICARD 1736 Mar 26 Bur John BULLONGIRE (ie. ?BELANGER??) 1736 Mar 31 Bapt Isaac, son of Isaac & Susannah ABRAHAMS Comment: I'm not sure about the surname ABRAHAMS but I'm adding it here just in case -- it certainly doesn't sound French -- but the first names Isaac may be a clue. Then again, maybe not. 1736 Apr 20 Bapt Richard, son of --- & --- TEVELEIN (no parents' names!) Re: parents' names above: ?may be Abraham and Ann? See entry below, dated 1742 which mentions Abraham & Ann TEVELIN. 1736 Jly 27 Bapt John, son of John & Ann PICARD 1736 Jly 31 Bur The Widow GASCOIN 1736 Nov 28 Bapt Joseph, son of Isaac & Philadelphia PARRAN 1737 May 5 Bapt William, son of Edward & Elizabeth TERRY 1737 Jne 3 Bur Isaac ABRAHAMS 1737 Aug 10 Bapt Charles, son of --- & --- TEVELEIN (no parents again!!) 1738 May 21 Bur The wife of Isaac LEAB Note: I think this surname was in one of my previous surname extract posts with LIEB spelling. 1738 May 25 Bapt Sarah, dau of Lewis & Sarah PETERS 1738 Aug 13 Bapt Isaac, son of Isaac & Susanna ABRAHAMS 1738 Oct 25 Bur Isaac ABRAHAMS 1738 Dec 19 Bur Susanna ABRAHAMS 1738/9 Feb 4 Bapt Thomas, son of Edward & Elizabeth TERRY 1739 May 24 Bur Andrew TEBO (ie. THIBEAU?) 1739 Nov 28 Bur George ROOKE, Esq. "the last of the males of the family of the Rookes of St. Lawrence in this parish." 1740 Mar 30 Bapt Isaac, son of Isaac & Philadelphia PARRAN 1740 May 7 Bapt Dean, son of John & Mary PICARD 1740 Sep 14 Bapt Mary, dau of James & Hester RUE 1741 Apr 12 Bur John PICARD 1741 Apr 23 Marr John Sladden of Sandwich & Catherine CRICKETT, otp Note that CRICKETT was one of the surnames posted a few months ago re: the Dutch Walloon settlement at Sandwich. 1741 May 25 Bur Mary RUE 1741 Sep 15 Bur Dean PICARD 1741 Dec 21 Bur Frances CASANBON (or CASAUBON?) 1741/2 Feb 1 Bur Mary TERRY 1742 Jne 6 Marr John Flower & Susanna RUE, botp Re: surname Flower above. I am wondering if it's an anglicization of LAFLEUR?? 1742 Aug 15 Bapt Abraham, the posthumous son of Abraham & Ann TEVELIN 1742/3 Jan 17 Bur Edward TERRY c1742/3-1743/4 John PICARD named in records as churchwarden. 1743 May 8 Bapt John, son of James & Hester RUE 1743/4 Jan 25 Bur Samuel LEPOIN (ie. LE POINT) 1743/4 Feb 13 Bapt William, son of Isaac & Philadelphia PARRAN 1744 Oct 4 Bur Mrs. LEPREE 1744 Nov 25 Bapt James, son of James & Hester RUE 1744/5 Feb 27 Bur Elizabeth TERRY 1745/6 Jan 2 Bur A child of Judith POULEE 1746 Apr 6 Bapt Joseph, son of John & Sarah RUE 1746 Nov 30 Bur Mr. LEPOIN's Child 1747/8 Feb 7 Bapt Frances Ann, dau of Isaac & Philadelphia PARAN 1747/8 Feb 15 Bur James LARDRE 1749 Oct 23 Bur Peter TARTOE End of Part 1, 1730-1750 Surname extracts, St. Paul Canterbury

Here are the GRD results for Catherine <Tverdov@aol.com> who requested a look-up on 16 Sept for surnames MOSSAY & MOSSEY, in Liege or Namur, Belgium, pre-c1857. Sorry, Catherine, but there were neither of these surname spellings found in the 2000 GRD. There is a MOSEY spelling, pre-1820, but it's in Yorkshire, ENG. The 1999 edition has a MOSSE in Lancashire, ENG. Please contact me off-list if either of these are of interest to you. Hope you eventually find that Joseph or John with the unusual middle name, Nepomuk. Andrea

Has anyone any knowledge of this family? Thank you! K.

Andrea, Thanks for checking on FORRESTER for me. Yes, the name was FORESTIER in France and some of that line went to New York in 1600's according to Charles W. Baird book. My great Uncle Rev. Dr. E.J. Forrester was invited up there to preach for a week or so back in late 1800's and met some of this line but they could not connect the two lines. My great Uncle did not have much information our line. Thank you for Membership Secretary, e-mail address of Clan FORRESTER. I am a member of Clan FORRESTER, USA but will certainly contact Mr. Barrie. Marie Marie Brunson Jefferson mjeffers@surfsouth.com

Jean/John/James FERDON christened in London, 1686. Jean/John/James crossed the Santee river, NC, with other Huguenots around 1700. Many thanks Nona

Hello Andrea: When you have time, would you look to see if there are any LE PLA, MARQUILLIER/MARQUILLE [MARKILLIE], TREFFETT/TREFET or FOVARGUE/FAVERGUEs in the GRD - excluding mine own? Many thanks - Carol California

Andrea, I would be most grateful if you could look up in the GRD the names DeBOUFFLER, DeBOUFFLERS, DeBOUFFLET and all those preceeding without the De. Also BATAILLE. Thanks muchly. John

In a message dated 9/19/00 11:38:31 AM, nona@ferdon.fsnet.co.uk writes: << the Santee river, NC, >> Shouldn't this be South Carolina? I have a home near there and have never heard of Santee River in North Carolina. My house is down from the old Huguenot settlement now in Jamestown SC. Dolly Gambrell in exile in VA but moving back to SC home in 2006; this are is flooded just now from storm named Gordon.

Andrea: THANKS! Would be interested in address of DALLY-DALLEY-DALLI etc in England: Cornwall, Sussex, Gloucestershire & Wiltshire. Tom Dally In James Riker book on Harlem (NYC), there is a footnote on p.29 about the word WALLOON: "...derived from the word GAUL, which the Germans by an etymological substitution of W for the Latin G, changed to WAHL, and in the plural WAHLEN. The Low Dutch making it, WAAL and WAALEN. The German and Dutch, in speaking of the WALLOONS, more commonly use the adjective form, saying the WALSCHE. [This was pub. in 1881 so it may not be true now.] The French use WALLOON. Written Walloon is called OUALLON." (p.29)

Listers -- here is another look-up from the 2000 GRD, as requested by Tom <sumo@bellatlantic.net> on 15 Sept. His surnames and areas of interest are: DALLY, D'AILLY, DALLEY, DALLI in France (Picardy), England (London & Dorset); Belgium (Tournai area), Barbadoes (St Michaels). For spelling DALLY, there are seven listings but none are for any of the specific locations mentioned above. The locations listed include Australia, England (Cornwall, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, Sussex) and Wales. Let me know if any of these perk an interest. For the DAILLY spelling, there is someone researching a Helen DAILLY, pre-1827 Exeter, Devon. The researcher is David Freeman of Australia and his e-mail is freeman@iniaccess.net.au. Also, the DAILY spelling has three listings for locations Australia, England (Lancashire & Staffordshire), and Ireland (Tyrone). Any interest in those? For DALLEY, there are five listings. One is for pre-1900 London. The researcher is Frederick Ashbee, 277 Folkestone Road, Dover, Kent CT17 9LL, ENG. (Another person with no e-mail! How do they cope?) I didn't find any DALLI at all (just DALLIMORE & DALIMOR). Hope this helps. Andrea

Hi, everyone, Here we go again with more 2000 GRD results. This time, for Marie <mjeffers@surfsouth.com> who, on 15 Sept, requested a look-up for surname FORRESTER. Her area of interest is Ireland, pre-1767. There are about 20 listings under FORRESTER in the GRD. Only one is for Ireland (County Mayo) and it's later than the date Marie mentioned (pre-1845). The researcher is Barbara Berrigan, 119 Russell Street, Kingston, Ontario K7K 2E7, Canada. She has no e-mail listed (sigh). The other FORRESTER listings are for locations in Australia, England, and Scotland (lots in SCT!). There is also an organization which is doing a One Name Study on FORRESTER. It's the Clan FORRESTER Society and their area of interest is worldwide. It might be worthwhile contacting the Membership Secretary, David Barrie (he's in England) at his e-mail which is davebarrie@compuserve.com. Marie, might FORRESTER once have been something like FOR(R)ESTIER? Good luck! Andrea

Ooops! Sorry about the delay with this particular GRD look-up which was requested on 13 Sept by Malinda<mthiesse@swbell.net>. It got lost in my e-mail piles! Apologies. And all you folks out there who are waiting for their look-up results -- don't worry, you're not forgotten. I am dealing with them in the order that they were received. But have you noticed that I'm doling them out at only about three per day? Just to stretch out the posts a bit......also as a suspense builder....<g> Malinda is looking for KEEVER (or KEVER or KEENER) c1760 in Germany, Belgium or Holland. I didn't find any listings for KEEVER or KEVER but there is someone researching KEENER pre-1850 in Mitcham and Bermondsey, Surrey, ENG. She is Jill Dyke, 6 King Edward Avenue, Bournemouth, Dorset BH9 1TY, ENG (no e-mail). As well, there is is someone researching KEENOR pre-1890 Croydon, Surrey, ENG.That researcher is Vera Coomber, 37 Alfred Road, Hawley, Kent DA2 7SQ, ENG (also no e-mail). I stand to be corrected but I believe Surrey is in the London metropolitan area. I also checked the 1999 GRD and found nothing there except for two listings for spelling KEVERN -- one in Devon, 1700-1800 and the other in Kent, 1750+. Can send details if wanted. I realize that none of the locations I've mentioned are the ones Malinda expressed an interest in. Hope this may help a bit. Andrea

Yes, it's me again with 2000 GRD look-up results-- This time, the look-up was requested by a fellow Canadian, Audrea <sfrizell@home.com>, on 15 Sept for surnames FRIZELL & FRIZZELL. She's interested in Northern Ireland in the 1800's. The GRD lists two people researching FRIZZELL in Ireland (and you're in luck because both have e-mail!): 1) 1840-1910 Portadown, Armagh -- Mavis Elliott in NSW, Australia, e-mail: tmelt@nextcentury..com.au. 2) 1800+ Dungannon, Tyrone -- Alison Fitzgerald in NZ, e-mail:abfitz@bopis.co.nz Another researcher is interested in FRIZZELL in Scotland, all time periods. There is also someone interested in FRIZEL, FRIZZEL and FRIZZLE but the location is Australia in the 1900's. As well as someone researching the FRIZZLE spelling in Northumberland, ENG & in SCT, pre-1800. Another person is researching FRISELL c1800, but in Scotland. Let me know if you want the details for any of this. (There was a lot of movement of folk -- not necessarily Huguenot -- between Scotland and Ireland. Happened in my family.) Good luck! Please let us know if you get any new info. Andrea

Hi -- on 15 Sept, Len <lencail@lencail.plus.com> requested a GRD look-up for surname CAIL. Sorry but I didn't find any listing for CAIL. However, there is someone researching CAIELS and CAILES in Dorset, Hampshire and Wiltshire, ENG, all time periods. There is also someone researching CAILLOL in Paris, also in all time periods. There is a CALE spelling listed too, being researched in all time periods in Tottenham (London area). In the 1999 GRD, there is a listing for both CAIL and CAILE, pre-1770, in Westmoreland, ENG but I believe I might have sent those already, off-list, some time ago. If I'm mistaken about that, let me know. Please contact me if you are interested in names/addresses for any of the above researchers. Regards, Andrea

Once again, hello to everyone -- Here are the GRD look-up results requested by Charles <CGeoff8520@aol.com> on 14 Sept for GEOFFROY and variants such as: JEOFFROY, JEFFREY, JAUFFROY, GEFFREY, etc. The only likely listing I found for any spelling was one which was in both the 1999 and the 2000 GRD. It was for JEOFFROY in London, ENG for time period 1800+. The researcher is Mike Brownlee who lives in Twickenham (which I believe is in the metropolitan London area). His e-mail address is m.brownlee@btinternet.com. There are lots of other spellings such as JEFFEARD, JEFFEREYS, JEFF(E)RIES, JEFFERY, JEFFRAY, JEFFRYES, etc. for different locations and I can give more details of these if wanted. Hope this helps to provide at least a tiny bit of the puzzle. Good luck. Andrea

Dear Andrea, Family originated in southern France and emigrated to Nova Scotia probably prior to 1875. No other information available. Thank you for all your generous contributions in our search for our ancestors. Sincerely, James Himes