Dear Listers, I wonder if any of you can help. There is a group of us, all in some way linked to the TEVELEIN family who have gathered much of the family data of the descendants of JEAN TEVELEIN b abt 1618 in Guemp, Pas-de-Calais. We want to push back further still. The family moved to Canterbury from the villages of Guines, Guemp, Marcq, and Armentiers , Picardie, France and Cadzand, Netherlands in the late 17th Century We would very much like to hear from anyone who can throw light on the associated branch family names of the period; their French ancestors and places of residence pre 1700: BEUNE/BONNE, RAIRE, LE HOUCQ,CHEVALLIER, DU FOUR, DOSSELAIT/DOSSELAR, OLIVE, ELVEN, PICARD, BOYKIN, HOLBROOK, CLARKE, BRICE, RUCK . We would appreciate guidance on searching records in this part of France and particularly the records of JEAN TEVELEIN. Listers, what makes a Huguenot a Huguenot?. Is it: 1. A person whose records are found in a Huguenot, Walloon or Strangers Church. 2. A person who has married into a Huguenot family.. 3. A person who because of persecution has emigrated from a Huguenot area irrespective of religious persuasion.. 4. A person whose parents were Huguenots but whose christening or birth is not found in Huguenot or Walloon records. Where does one draw the line in the definition? Were Huguenot immigrants to Canterbury immediately absorbed into the Church of England? I would like to thank Andrea for all the 'names' she has posted recently with the very many references to TEVELEIN in its various spellings. This is a very valuable site. Thank you. Clive Bates

Dear Andrea Could it be that Joneen's reply to your question about silence on the list is part of the reason? She wrote: "I traced my alleged Huguenot BESSEY family back to the 1650s in Schoenaich, Wuerttemberg, not to England or France. I need to contact the German Huguenot Society for more information. Once I have more information I will be happy to share. I read your posts with amazement that so much information has survived in England and Ireland." Much as I enjoy the list, it has to be admitted that it is automatically limited by being in the English language. Since most listers are trying ultimately to get back to European countries where English is not the first language, the list on the whole does not reach the people most likely to be able to help (those with local knowledge). As I wrote last week I know that an enormous amount of information has survived in Geneva; I think also that there is plenty in certain parts of Germany and Andrea has told us about various French and Dutch sources. It is not that more information has survived in England and Ireland, it is that it is more easily accessible to English-speaking researchers. In my opinion, Andrea, if you want the list to thrive in its present form (and I am sure there are many faithful lurkers like myself who are addicted), you need some energetic members to test the waters on foreign language mailing lists and Internet sources and report back. As an example, for those who speak French and are researching in francophone countries, I have found this FAQ (particularly sections 3, 5, 10, 12 and 16) very useful: http://claire.b.free.fr/faq1frg.html <http://claire.b.free.fr/faq1frg.html> With best wishes Julia ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the postmaster at postmaster@sothebys.com. **********************************************************************

My Bennett family from Windsor in Berkshire was supposed to be of Huguenot origin have not posted before as I think there is no chance of tracing furthur. Windsor is not known for Huguenot associations but there where supposedly some silkweavers at Spital nearby. My earliest I am sure of was William only back to early 1700s possibly son of James if so born 1712/13 at Windsor. No trade known apart from a much later whitesmith. I guess I am at the end of my search. best wishes Janice

About 6 weeks ago I subscribed to tell folks about a great web site I found:World Biographical Index at: http://www.saur-wbi.de/ You can put in a last name and see a list of people as diverse as clergy, fishermen, artists etc. I entered the names I wanted to research : TOUCHARD & DEDE. Gots lots of information on TOUCHARD ancestors including - Christophe Touchard 1592-1627, Libraine, relieur. Source: Renouard Thoinan, Phillippe Renoud: Imprimeurs parisiens, libraries, fonders de caractores etc. Archive ABF I, Pierre Toucahrd 1621 - relieur. Ernest Thoinan - Les Relieurs Francois 1500-1800. Paris 1893 Archive ABF I This information was never published and I can only think that it was lost. Otherwise it was unwanted information. Perhaps a second try will bring success? Its an exceptional research site. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Hello Andrea and Listers, I read with interest Andrea's message and although I don't have much to contribute, I am very interested in the list. I am visiting relatives in Texas at the moment and will be here for about 6 more days, so I don't have access to any records, I'm using their computer to read and send e mail. I thought I would post my surname again, and what I know. Laux Jenter born circa 1580 in France, escaped into Heselwangen Germany about early 1600's, and lived there, until one of his decendants, Johann Martin Jenter, got himself kicked out of Heselwangen, for fighting with the town mayor's wife, and settled in the little town right next door, of Zillhausen, Germany. It was from there that my great great grandfather Christian Jenter, left in 1852 and came to Ann Arbor, Michigan USA. I don't know where in France Laux was born or his son Laux Richter Jenter who was born in 1633. I have church records from Laux Richter Jenter' son Laux Jenter born in 1654 in Heselwangen Germany, and every record onward to myself. I know that all of the USA Jenter's, about 300 or so of us, are related to Laux born circa 1580, and it looks more and more like all of the Germany Jenter's also fit in the same family tree. I have found Jenter's in the United Kingdon, with records on the IGI as early as the mid 1500's which leads me to think they were also Huguenot's related to my Laux, who escaped from France into the United Kingdon. There are still several Jenter's there that I need to write to, to see what they know of their family. I don't have any idea, right now, without corresponding to the UK Jenter's where in France to look. The Jenter's in the UK seem to have been in areas know as Huguenot areas. Also, in Winchelsea area, of England, which is near the coast of Dover, there is a house know as the Jenter House, I have no knowledge of this. Another interesting bit of info I found is that there was a Francis Jenter christened in St Andrew Undershaft church in London, on a street that practically intersects Threadneedle Street. This christening took place about 1558's, another coincidence, I hope. I hope everyone is not bored to tears by know, but I am very interested in keeping the list going. Does anyone have any idea what the name JENTER might have been? Thanks for listening, this is a great list Karen Jenter Michigan USA

Hello Everyone, I am still searching for further information on my VAN DER KEUR family in the Netherlands. I am also still trying to find out if the family is Huguenot. I recently received a copy of a book about my VAN DER KEUR ancestors and have now some new clues but no concrete facts. The book is written in Dutch and I had a bit difficulty translating it into English. This is what I now have: Arij VAN DER KEUR, born between 1685 and 1690 in 's-Gravenhage, Netherlands (no birth record has been found; this information was obtained from his "ondertrouw" -- registration of intended marriage), died Mar 1724 in Leiden; married Tanneke Pieters(dr) DE GROET on 31 Aug 1710 in Leiden. The book suggests that Arij's parents may be Maerten Claesz VAN DER CEUR from Ghent and Annetje Pieterse VAN RAEPHORST. Maerten and Annetje's "ondertrouw" is dated 14 Dec 1687 in s'Gravenhage. There is also a suggestion for Arij's grandparents: Guillaume LE CEUR from Rouen and Maria PLOUVIER from Valenciennes. Guillaume and Maria's "ondertrouw" is date 14 Jul 1647 in s'Gravenhage. Apparently Arij VAN DER KEUR was a "schrobbelaar" and well known within the textile industry in Leiden. There was possible French family names given: DU COEUR, LE COEUR and DE COEUR. It is also said the family is probably French Walloon. Any suggestions where to go from here? Does anyone have any connection to these names? I would like to hear from you. Thank you, Sue de Groot Toronto, Ontario, Canada sue.degroot@sympatico.ca

In response to your request for posts, I believe I have another Hug to research. It appears that another grandmother - a Chasteen/Chastain may fall into this category as well as the other family that I orignally began researching. This is exciting to me because I had not made the connection earlier being overwhelmed with research on several other lines. I know that Elizabeth was born in 1820 in SC and will be looking for her family. I have tried to contact someone who has posted as being a relative so that we can make the connection between both families. If information becomes available, will be glad to post for all. Judy

Volume XL1 (41) of the Huguenot Society Quarto Series contains Lists of Huguenot Pensioners in Ireland. These are Dublin and Portarlington Veterans of King William 111's Army. This volume is on LDS Film 0962140 Item 1.

Listers -- here follows a list of all the surnames beginning with the letter A which are in the records of the Threadneedle Street Church tésmoignages. For an explanation of what the tésmoignages were, please see the post in the list archives on this topic, dated 16 March. As you may remember from previous posts, these records are in Volume 21 of the Quarto series published by the Hug. Soc. of London -- Livre des Tésmoignages de l'Église de Threadneedle Street, 1669-1789 -- and are also on LDS film # 0962137. You will note that some surnames below are followed by a second one in brackets. This means that they are cross-referenced in this source, usually indicating a spouse's surname. Many surnames have several alternate spellings so it's a good idea to check for every possible variant (there may even be a few you haven't thought of! <g>). I hope this info is of help to someone on the list at the moment or searching in the archives in the future. If anyone recognizes a (possible) connection, I hope they will post about it. Andrea (And if anyone can tell me how to stop lines of print from breaking up at the beginning or in the middle of a line, such as below, I would really appreciate it. Please contact me privately. I've tried everything but nothing seems to work. ABERARD (PICARD), ABLIN, ABRANS, ADAM, ADAMS, ADCOCK, ADELIN, ADIN, AGACE, AGACHE, AGAR, AGAS, AGASCHE, AGASE, AGASS (GUENIN), AGOMBAR, AGOMBARD, AGUITTON, AILLERY, ALAIN, ALAR, ALARD, ALAVOINE, ALBA, ALBERT, ALEAUME, ALEGRAT, ALEMAND, ALENANTEAU, ALEPSON, ALER, ALHAUME, ALIEAUME, ALIGE, ALLARD, ALLART, ALLE, ALLEN, ALLES, ALLIAUME, ALLIS, ALLIX, ALLONNEAU, ALTIERY, AMAIL, AMAN, AMAUBRY, AMBER, AMBERT, AMBLAIR, AMERRY, AMIOT, AMIRAULT, AMIREAU, AMMONET, AMONET, AMONNET, AMORIE, AMORY, AMY, AMYOT,AMYOTT, ANCELIN, ANCELLIN, ANCET, ANCHAUD, ANCION, ANCRELIN, ANDOUE, ANDOUIL (MORIN), ANDRARD, ANDRÉ, ANDRIEU, ANDRIEUX, AEQUETIL, ANGELIE, ANGELIER, ANGELIERS (BOUCHET), ANGELLIER, ANGELOT, ANGELRAY, ANGEVIN, ANGLIER, ANGLOIS, ANGOISSE (FOUACHE), ANGOT, ANGUIS, ANLEY, ANNAN, ANSEAU, ANSELOT, ANSIO, ANSELLIN, ANTHOUARD, ANTIOQUE, ANTOINE, APPY, ARBOIN, ARBOUIN, ARBUNOT, ARCHAMBAULT, ARCHEVESQUE, ARDESOIF, ARDOUIN, ARIVÉ, ARLAND, ARLANDI, ARMAN, ARMAND, ARMANS, ARMENT, ARMSTRONG, ARNAUD, ARNAULD, ARNAULT,ARONDEAU, ARONDEL, ARREAUX, ARRIVÉ, ARRONDEL, ARTHUR, ARTUR, ASIMA, ASLTHON, ASMAT, ASSELBRONNE, ASSELIN, ASSIÉ, ATARD, ATTENVILLE, AUBANOY, AUBAY, AUBE, AUBÉE, AUBER, AUBERDIN, AUBERGNE, AUBERT (CORDIER), AUBERT, AUBERTIN, AUBERY, AUBIN (PATERNOSTER), AUBLOT, AUBOUIN, AUBRAY, AUBREY, AUBRY, AUBUYSSON, AUCHARD, AUDEBERT, AUDEMAR, AUDEMARE, AUDINARD, AUDINET, AUDOIN, AUDONY, AUDOIT, AUDRAN, AUDRY, AUDUROY, AUELINE, AUESNE, AUGER, AUGIER, AUGIZEAU, AUGUSTIN (DE PAURON), AUISSEAU, AUMERUILLE, AUMON, AUMONIER, AUMONT, AUNAN, AUNANT, AUNERAN, AURCAU, AURIAT, AURICAU, AURIOL, AURY, AUSSANT, AUTIN, AUVACHE, AUVAIN, AUVRY, AUZANEAU, AUZANNEAU, AUZOU, AVELENE, AVERARD, AVEST, AVISSEAU, AVY, AYAIE, AYBOURG, AYMERY, AYRAUD, AZEMAT. End of A surnames, Threadneedle St. Church tésmoignages

Andrea, Now a few words from a list lurker...I have little to contribute to the list at this point and no time for research so I could have something to contribute. I traced my alleged Huguenot BESSEY family back to the 1650s in Schoenaich, Wuerttemberg, not to England or France. I need to contact the German Huguenot Society for more information. Once I have more information I will be happy to share. I read your posts with amazement that so much information has survived in England and Ireland. Please don't stop. It is so enjoyable to see others making progress. Joneen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:17 PM Subject: [HWE] List silence: questions/comments Dear fellow listers -- Have you noticed that this list is all but dead? It's become a cause of discouragement and concern for me. List messages have dwindled to almost nothing during October. I have no idea why. About a week ago, as an experiment, I decided to stop posting anything myself, just to see what would happen. I was hoping that others would notice and begin to fill in the gaps. So what happened? Not much. We've had 4 posts to the list during that time, one of which was from someone who is not a subscriber. Those of you who have been here for a while know that I am the type of list admin who posts a lot (because I enjoy sharing with fellow researchers). However, it's not my responsibility to post most or all of the messages on the list. It's not my personal soapbox. At any given time, there are about 270 other subscribers here -- and this is your list as well as mine. But I have been wondering where you all are. It's true that we do have a core group of 12-20 "faithfuls" who post frequently (and I really do appreciate each one of you for this) but we also have many many subscribers who are seldom or never heard from. This list belongs to *all of us*. We are all responsible for it and need to nurture it. Being a list member means that each of us have the opportunity to share with others right now, today. But we can also lay down a "paper trail" by posting messages, so that others going through the list archives in the future will be able to find us. Without this "trail", there is no trace at all of you being here. A mailing list only stays alive and thriving when subscribers contribute to it. Without this, it dies. This one may be dying. But what's the cause? Of course, I realize that "real life" gets in the way of finding time to contribute but please ask yourself if setting aside a few moments about once a month seems too much to ask. I have made the decision to begin posting regularly again, as I have in the past. I just don't feel comfortable keeping silent. What will your decision be on this issue? Does anyone have comments or, hopefully, some solutions? Is there anything that can -- or should -- be done about this situation? What can I do, as list admin? I welcome suggestions. What can each of you do? Is this list a worthwhile resource? Perhaps not? My best to you all, Andrea (in my role as list concierge) ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe (if you are in list mode), type and send only the word unsubscribe to: Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Listers -- My apologies but I overlooked this GRD look-up which John <JRBOUFFLER@aol.com> requested on 19 Sept. I think this happened because the subject line didn't mention the GRD, but instead was: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D Digest V00 #245. (A good example of the importance of relevent subject lines <g>.) John is interested in surnames DeBOUFFLER, DeBOUFFLERS, DeBOUFFLET (with and without the "DE") and also BATAILLE. I didn't find any of these surnames listed in the 2000 GRD. The only spelling which was close is BOUFFIER, being researched in quite recent time periods in Australia and also Germany. This listing was in both the 2000 and the 1999 editions. However, all is not lost because, also in the 1999 GRD, are the following -- 1) researching BOUFFLER 1900's Condobolin, NSW, Australia -- Warwick E. Rhodes, 71 Mill Street, Canowindra, NSW 2804, AUS (no e-mail). 2) researching BOUFFLER 1812+ Islington, Middlesex (this is London area), ENG -- Lee Manning, 9 Marina Grove, Lower Hutt 6009, New Zealand (also no e-mail). Even though these time periods are late ones, these researchers might have earlier info which may help determine the origin of this name. John, in an earlier post on 31 Aug, you also asked some questions about these same surnames. Specifically, you wondered if (de) BOUFFLER & BOUFFLET could be the same surname. Certainly, I think you should always consider this as a possibility. As you probably know, both spellings would be pronounced the same in French (ie. boo-flay). And the BATLE spelling would not be inconsistent with an anglicization of BATAILLE. Also, the "DE" was often used inconsistently. As your BOUFFLER seems to have come from Munster in Ireland, have you checked local records for that area to see what other information you might find there? Also, I believe the Hug. Soc. of London has published a volume re: King William's Huguenot Army (can other listers help out with specific info about this source?). Perhaps this might provide some clues? Hope this has helped. Good luck. Andrea

Dear fellow listers -- Have you noticed that this list is all but dead? It's become a cause of discouragement and concern for me. List messages have dwindled to almost nothing during October. I have no idea why. About a week ago, as an experiment, I decided to stop posting anything myself, just to see what would happen. I was hoping that others would notice and begin to fill in the gaps. So what happened? Not much. We've had 4 posts to the list during that time, one of which was from someone who is not a subscriber. Those of you who have been here for a while know that I am the type of list admin who posts a lot (because I enjoy sharing with fellow researchers). However, it's not my responsibility to post most or all of the messages on the list. It's not my personal soapbox. At any given time, there are about 270 other subscribers here -- and this is your list as well as mine. But I have been wondering where you all are. It's true that we do have a core group of 12-20 "faithfuls" who post frequently (and I really do appreciate each one of you for this) but we also have many many subscribers who are seldom or never heard from. This list belongs to *all of us*. We are all responsible for it and need to nurture it. Being a list member means that each of us have the opportunity to share with others right now, today. But we can also lay down a "paper trail" by posting messages, so that others going through the list archives in the future will be able to find us. Without this "trail", there is no trace at all of you being here. A mailing list only stays alive and thriving when subscribers contribute to it. Without this, it dies. This one may be dying. But what's the cause? Of course, I realize that "real life" gets in the way of finding time to contribute but please ask yourself if setting aside a few moments about once a month seems too much to ask. I have made the decision to begin posting regularly again, as I have in the past. I just don't feel comfortable keeping silent. What will your decision be on this issue? Does anyone have comments or, hopefully, some solutions? Is there anything that can -- or should -- be done about this situation? What can I do, as list admin? I welcome suggestions. What can each of you do? Is this list a worthwhile resource? Perhaps not? My best to you all, Andrea (in my role as list concierge)

-----Original Message----- From: Barbara Watts <barbara.watts@tesco.net> To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L-request@rootsweb.com <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Date: October 8, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: JACQUES/COOPER request Hi Listers I am on the London list and one of my fellow listers suggested I contact your list to see if any one has a connection with my family, see below. Could any replies be sent to my email as I don't currently subscribe to your list. I am searching for JACQUES/COOPER. See below, am posting to your list in case anyone else has a link. JACQUES from French/Spanish border (Pyranees, Catalonia?) cira 1750-1850 JACQUES (Elizabeth?) m 1800-1850 ? COOPER Ilford, Essex (GYPSY SITE possibly) COOPER Elizabeth (twin of Sophia) m Benjamin BALL 1898-1900, Rodney Rd, Walworth, London COOPER, Elizabeth's brothers went to Australia early 1900s and started a Stud Farm ( don't know their first names) COOPER Ashley, Australian tennis player (1950s-1960s) is supposedly a son of one of them. Regards Barbara, Old Basing, Hants, UK

Dear List, This is my first posting. I have but one possible Huguenot in my family, named Jessie Mary DE LA TECHFORD, my GG-Grandmother. I have not been able to find that surname anywhere, which I find a little surprising after two years searching. My best documented close kin is my G-Grandmother, Jessie, who married Charles ELLIS, in London, in 1873. Jessie's parents' names, and her father's occupation, come from her death registration. The handwriting is good, so the spelling of De la Techford, given here, is probably correct. An extract from the family tree follows: --------------------------------------------------------------- 1 unknown SMITH --------------------------------------------- Spouse: Jessie Mary DE LA TECHFORD Children: Jessie Mary (ca1857-1918) 1.1 Jessie Mary SMITH --------------------------------------------- Birth: ca 1857, London, England Death: 2 Apr 1918, 7 Melville St, Dunedin. Burial: 4 Apr 1918, Southern Cemetery, Dunedin, New Zealand, #936 Reli: Anglican She may have been a talented pianist, according to Jessie MARSHALL (Wellington, 1996). Her father was described, on her death registration, as a piano-maker. Anne SMITH's letter of 3 April 1997, says, "Also, Mum said she had a very musical (great?) grandmother called Helen SMITH-have you found her? She was said to have a French connection-born there or some such." Is Jessie Mary De La Techford, the French connection? Research: Death reg. #1558 (Dunedin Southern Cemetery #936) Her father's first name is not given on her death registration, just her mother's, and her mother's maiden name. But her father's occupation was piano-maker. On her death registration, her age at marriage was given as 18 years, herbirthplace was given as London, and she was said to have been 43 years in NZ. Her surviving children were said to be aged: M 43, 40, 37, and F 41 years. Spouse: Charles ELLIS Birth: ca 1851/1852, West Ham, Essex, England Death: 19 Jul 1913, 7 Melville St, Dunedin, NZ Father: Charles ELLIS Mother: Susanna SMITH Marr: 31 May 1873, London, England Children: Charles (1874-1972) Jessie (1876-1954) George (1878-1905) Walter (1881-1952) Alfred (ca1884-1894) --------------------------------------------- Please report corrections and additions to: Denis Wederell 6 Monaghan Ave Karori WELLINGTON New Zealand 6005 Does anyone know the name DE LA TECHFORD? Or know of a piano maker named SMITH (what a hope) in London at that period? Anything at all would help.

Another very good book on the Hugs. with lots of surnames mentioned is The Huguenot settlements in Ireland by Grace Lawless Lee. Originally pub. in 1937 it has been reprinted for Clearfield Company Inc by the Genealogical Publishing co Inc Baltimore MZ. in 1993. It also appears on the CD#600 Hu.Settlers in North America & Europe. Shirley Arabin. Mount Maunganui, NEW ZEALAND "If at first I don't succeed there is always next year" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Wilming" <jwil@capital.net> To: "Shirley Arabin" <arabin@wave.co.nz>; <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2000 00:26 Subject: RESEARCH IN IRELAND>Follow-up > Hi List: To continue on with my question regarding research in Ireland - One > book I found here in NY, USA stated that many Hugs settled originally in > Dublin - also Co. Leix (Queen's Country); Kilkenny; Limerick and; Cork. This > leads me to believe it would be wise to search in many places. Thanks for > all the assistance. > Judy >

Why do you suggest 'most' settled in Galway. Most of the historians i have read consider Portarlington and Dublin mainly, with Cork, Waterford,Lismore and smaller centres following. A good book ed. by Caldicott, Gough & Pittion "The Huguenots & Ireland" Glendale Press (1987) can be recommended. Shirley Arabin. Mount Maunganui, NEW ZEALAND "If at first I don't succeed there is always next year" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Dally" <sumo@bellatlantic.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2000 11:00 Subject: [HWE] Research in Ireland > Judy: Most of the French Huguenots settled in County Galway so you might look there first. Tom Dally > > ______________________________

Hi List: To continue on with my question regarding research in Ireland - One book I found here in NY, USA stated that many Hugs settled originally in Dublin - also Co. Leix (Queen's Country); Kilkenny; Limerick and; Cork. This leads me to believe it would be wise to search in many places. Thanks for all the assistance. Judy

Oops -- I overlooked the following entries when I posted earlier today (3 Oct) with TEVELIN extracts, from the records of the Malt-house Chapel in Canterbury. Also, I forgot to mention in my previous post that I have left all spelling and punctuation "as is". Once again, friends, I caution you to please verify this info in the original records for yourself. Andrea 1715 -- Marie, fille de Jean CAILHEAU et de Anne LA PLACE est nee le 7 Septembre 1715 et a este baptisee par Mr. Jean CHARPENTIER, Ministre, le 18e 7bre (which means September) 1715, parin Jean BLANCHARD, Marines Marie CAILLEAU et Elizabet TEUELIN. Comment: I have found that the letters v/u are sometimes interchanged, eg. TEUELIN=TEVELIN. This entry (and the one below) also seem to indicate that Jean CHARPENTIER (CHERPENTIER) was Minister up until sometime between 1715-1719. 1719 -- Isaac, fils de Jacob TEVELIN et d'Esther ELVEN est ne le 4e Juillet 1719 et a eté batisé le meme jour. Il a eu pour Parrains Isaac TEVELIN et Isaac ELVEN et pour Marraine Elizabeth TEVELIN. Pierre LE SUEUR. Comment: this entry confirms that the surname spelled ESLEVEN in later entries is a variant of ELVEN or ELVIN. 1720 -- Jacob, fils de Jacob TEVELIN et d'Esther ELVEN est né le 25 d'Oct. 1720 a eté baptise le 6e Nov: suivant. Il a eu pour Parrains Jean L'EPLUQUE et Pierre LE GRAND, et pour Marraine Susanne L'EPLUQUE. Pierre LE SUEUR. 1721 -- Jaques, fils de Jean Francoise LE DUC et de Judith LE FEBURE, sa femme, est né le 29 Juin 1721 et a ete presenté au bateme le 9 Juillet suivant par Jaques SEGUIN, et Jaques MARQUILLER, ses parrains, et Marie TEVELIN, sa Marraine, a Canterbury. Pierre LE SUEUR. END

Dear HugWalls In response to Andrea's recent message, I should like to say that I am extremely interested in a number of people who either stayed in or passed through Geneva in the course of their careers. Over the years I have done quite a bit of work in the State Archives in Geneva and have always found the staff very helpful and the records very easy to use. One of the archivist told me that the baptismal and a number of other records have been filmed by the LDS. As I have never had occasion to order them, I am afraid I do not know the film numbers. I'm sorry, I don't know when or if I shall ever get back to Geneva so I can't offer look-ups there but I do have a copy of the Livre des Habitants, transcribed and indexed by Perrenoud and Perrin (no 7 on Andrea's list). This lists in date order 1684-1792, denizens of Geneva (not necessarily Huguenot) and gives their place of origin, father's name, occupation and whether accompanied by any male children (no females included). If anybody thinks their family might have gone to Geneva and stayed for a generation or two I would be happy to look. Julia Clarke London ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the postmaster at postmaster@sothebys.com. **********************************************************************

On 26 Sept, Tom <sumo@bellatlantic.net> requested a look-up in the GRD for surnames MADOU or MADON (France & Belgium). Sigh......no listings found for either of these spellings. There is one person researching MADEN & MADIN in all time periods, worldwide. I include it here in case it's of any assistance. The researcher's name is Ian MADDEN and his address is 15 Belvedere Street, Epsom, Auckland 1003, NZ (another poor soul with no e-mail <g>). Andrea