Andrea: DALLY, d'AILLY, DALLEY, DAILLI 1600's FRA, BEL, ENG, IRL Tom

Hi Clive and List, I have been working with the Canterbury Strangers Church registers for some time in pursuit of my DENOCOUR ancestors. The word "feu" definitely means "late" and Vfeu / Vefue are widower and widow respectively according my French dictionary. It seems that widows still used their maiden names after marriage at this time. There are baptisms which give both parents' surnames. Hope this helps PG Martin Bexley Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Bates" <Clive.Bates@btinternet.com> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 29 October 2000 22:30 Subject: [HWE] Translating records > Walloon Church at Canterbury. > > The following extract is from a record from the Walloon Church at > Canterbury. > > I asked a friend what is the meaning of 'feu', 'vfeu' and 'vefue' in : > > "Pg. 457) 1602 Sep 2 -- Mariage: Anthoine LE CONTE, vefu, natif de > Tournay; et Francoise DE LA RUE, ve(fue) de feu Louys THEUELIN, natifue > d'Armentieres" > > and I had this reply: > > " 'Feu' generally means fire, but can also mean 'hearth' or 'homestead', so > could be translated in this instance as Francoise DE LA RUE, native of > Armentieres, from the family (literally the home/hearth) of Louis Theuelin. > It could also mean 'the late Louis Theuelin', but it won't be that if he was > still alive at the time of the marriage! (I don't think it could mean widow > of the late Louis Theuelin, as their surnames don't match.) > > I've been racking my brains and I think that Vefu (masc) and Vefue (fem) are > the old spellings of Veuf and Veuve, which mean widower and widow > respectively. It looks as if this may have been a second marriage for both > of them, especially as her name isn't the family name. If she was widowed, > and this was a remarriage, it would explain the lack of a maiden name in the > entry. > > I'm not really up on 'Mediaeval' French, but I hope this helps or at least > makes sense! " > > > Would any lister care to comment on the phrase "de feu Louys THEUELIN" > Was this a shot-gun marriage, is Louis défunt or was this his daughter's > second marriage.? > > Does anyone know a website which explains the rudiments of translating early > French words found in genealogical records such as these. > > Clive > > > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > To access list archives: go to URL's below for 1)threaded or 2)keyword > 1) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/huguenots-walloons-europe > 2) http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Fellow listers -- First, sorry to bombard you with so many posts in the last few days. Hope you don't feel too overwhelmed. This shouldn't last long. As I mentioned yesterday, I'm happy to report that the H-W-E website is taking shape and I hope to have it fully accessible before the end of November, possibly sooner (all fingers crossed and touch wood <g>). Thus, this long overdue update. I'm sorry this has taken so long. It won't be a fancy site, because I'm a complete novice (ignoramus?) at this sort of thing and haven't found the process an easy one. My son, who is twenty-something and the family "computer techie", was to give me help with it but his life took unexpected turns which didn't involve helping Mum out. That is, he fell in love with a Scottish exchange teacher who was here in Canada temporarily and he has now gone to live in Scotland for an undetermined period. Before he left, he assured me that "It's easy, Mum!" This advice from someone who constructed his own website several years ago, complete with moving graphics such as flying birds and photos of water which actual ripple if you click on a nearby button. Well, Mum hasn't found it at all easy! Sigh....... So, there will be no "bells & whistles" for H-W-E -- eg. no fancy background or graphics or hot buttons -- just a basic site but I hope it will serve its purpose nicely. Some of you may be wondering why we need a web site, as well as this list. Well, Rootsweb recommends that each list have one, actually. And I agree. Some are quite basic and just include information on how to subscribe and unsubscribe. However, my plans for H-W-E website are more detailed. The purpose of the site is two-fold: First, it will have a lot of information on it that subscribers (and non-subscribers too) can refer to for help, suggestions, information, links, etc. A lot of the info has been brought up on the list at one time or another (or is in the "welcome message") but the website will make it accessible all in one place. Second, it will allow others who are not on the list to find us through a web search -- for example, if they type in the words Huguenots or Walloons on a search engine. Once on the website, they can learn more about Hugs/Walls and join the list if they want to. Also, our H-W-E Surnames List will be on the website so those names will also, hopefully, be found through a web search. Listers, I would like input from those of you willing to provide it. I will be posting further, more specific, information about the web site and asking for your feedback. My first step is to post an outline (template) of how the whole website is organized and what general headings are included. As I said, I would value suggestions and opinions on this. It's not just my site -- it belongs to the H-W-E list. This will be my next post, probably later today. Stay tuned for it. Andrea

Listers -- Yesterday (29 Oct), Clive <Clive.Bates@btinternet.com> was asking about translations for certain French words in records of the Canterbury Walloon Church. (And I apologize to Clive for saying, in my previous post, that he was in Australia. He is, of course, in the UK and, thus, only 8 hours ahead of me! <g>). It may be helpful to Clive and others to know that the LDS site has a French Genealogical Word List which can be found at -- http://www3.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/rg/frameset_rhelps.asp. Note that this is a new URL from previously, as a result of the LDS website being re-designed and re-arranged recently. At the same URL, you can also select any of the following for France -- maps, church records info, civil registration info, letter-writing guide, historical background and a guide titled How Do I Begin? There is also a guide to research in France available on the site (called a Research Outline). I am presuming this is the same one they used to offer for free but now I notice that it costs US$1. If it is the same Outline, there is an extensive section specifically on Huguenot research in France as well as other countries (under heading Church History). It describes "records you can use to discover your French ancestors", also "content, use and availability of genealogical records", as well as a lot of other useful information. There are similar offerings for other countries such as Germany, England, Ireland. Going to the URL I've mentioned should get you access to them. Andrea P.S. Concerning the word vefue/veuve (widow) which Clive mentioned, I have seen it also abbreviated as v. or ve.

Dear listers, Since my <snip> reminder to the list yesterday, there have been several more posts in which previous messages have not been <snipped out> or deleted. These did not concern surname submissions but were on other topics. So....once again, I ask this of all of you: if you are posting in reply to any previous message, do not send that entire previous message back to the list yet again as part of your reply. Delete it completely or include just a small portion of it (just enough for listers to know what you are replying to). Such replies may need the original subject line changed too, by the way. Regards and thanks to all, Andrea (as list concierge)

Listers -- In his post yesterday (29 Oct), there was a question from Roy <royday@dial.pipex.com> re: my earlier message about proposed submissions of US/CAN surnames if place of origin is unknown. Roy said -- >.................. how they can be considered Huguenots if their place of birth together with their religion is still to be established?> Thanks to Roy for raising this valid question. It was a case of sloppy wording in my original post. And thanks also to comments from Clive <Clive.Bates@btinternet.com> on this subject. He said exactly what I was planning to say in reply, except he said it faster (but then, he's 18 hours ahead of me there in Australia <g>). Of course, such a list would have a statement attached to it which said something like this -- that the following surnames were *believed to be* of Huguenot origin but any proof of such a connection had not yet been established. It may be a moot point, though, because I have not received a single response so far to my suggestion of US/CAN names. (If you have any such names, please contact me off-list!) A last comment and that is about the "main" surnames list as I posted yesterday. On the website, it will not be headed Huguenot & Walloon Surnames or similiar. The heading will be H-W-E Surnames List (ie. meaning: surnames submitted by list subscribers). And I believe this list should also have a disclaimer of some type attached to it to the effect that appearance of any name on the list does not prove a H/W connection, that such connections vary with individual researchers and surnames. Anyone want to work on the wording for this?? Volunteers?? <g> Hope this clears things up. Andrea

SAYE, SEE, SIX, SY 1660s-1700 FRA>ENG>VA Hugh Seay

Walloon Church at Canterbury. The following extract is from a record from the Walloon Church at Canterbury. I asked a friend what is the meaning of 'feu', 'vfeu' and 'vefue' in : "Pg. 457) 1602 Sep 2 -- Mariage: Anthoine LE CONTE, vefu, natif de Tournay; et Francoise DE LA RUE, ve(fue) de feu Louys THEUELIN, natifue d'Armentieres" and I had this reply: " 'Feu' generally means fire, but can also mean 'hearth' or 'homestead', so could be translated in this instance as Francoise DE LA RUE, native of Armentieres, from the family (literally the home/hearth) of Louis Theuelin. It could also mean 'the late Louis Theuelin', but it won't be that if he was still alive at the time of the marriage! (I don't think it could mean widow of the late Louis Theuelin, as their surnames don't match.) I've been racking my brains and I think that Vefu (masc) and Vefue (fem) are the old spellings of Veuf and Veuve, which mean widower and widow respectively. It looks as if this may have been a second marriage for both of them, especially as her name isn't the family name. If she was widowed, and this was a remarriage, it would explain the lack of a maiden name in the entry. I'm not really up on 'Mediaeval' French, but I hope this helps or at least makes sense! " Would any lister care to comment on the phrase "de feu Louys THEUELIN" Was this a shot-gun marriage, is Louis défunt or was this his daughter's second marriage.? Does anyone know a website which explains the rudiments of translating early French words found in genealogical records such as these. Clive

CUVELLIER 1500's FRA, early 1600's NL, mid 1600's USA(NY) ncruse@nemonet.com DE LA VIGNE (VIGNE), 1500's FRA, early 1600's NL, mid 1600's USA(NY) ncruse@nemonet.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrea Vogel <andreav@island.net> To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 29, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: [HWE] Website SURNAMES list, A-G -- updates, please! > Fellow listers -- here are surnames A to G which have already been >submitted (some time ago), for our website (which is under >construction). > Please check for any errors or omissions. If you would like to add >your surnames, please *post to the list*, following the format >illustrated below. See my earlier post on this subject for further >guidance with these posts. Andrea > > Abbreviations for countries are used, as follows -- >BEL=Belgium, CAN=Canada, CH=Switzerland (Schweiz), ENG=Scotland, >FRA=France, GER=Germany, IRL=Ireland, NL=Netherlands, POL=Poland, >RSA=Republic of South Africa, RUS=Russia, SWE=Sweden, USA=United >States. > >AGOMBAR 1700-1800's Bethnal Green & Shoreditch, London, ENG >sallypocock@compuserve.com >ALLEMONG, ALLEMAN, Johan Jacob c1708 Schalback, Moselle, FRA > 1760s >PA, USA Magggie@aol.com >ALUIC, Abraham, pre-1690, Z. NL; rie@execulink.com >AMORY: 1600s Thorney, Cambridgeshire, ENG markillie@inreach.com >ANDRÉ: 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >ANGELLOY: 1600 Thorney, CAM, ENG > LIN, ENG markilli@inreach.com >ANGENNES (D'): 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >ANNEREAU pre-1750 Poitou, FRA > 1760-c1850 Shoreditch & Bethnal >Green, >London, ENG sallypocock@compuserve.com >ANY NAME 1500-1700 Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA Chsdss771@cs.com >ANY NAME 1500-1700, Rouen, Seine Maritime, FRA Chsdss771@cs.com >ANYNAME: FRA > POL hugenota@hotmail.com >ANYNAME: FRA > RUS hugenota@hotmail.com >ARABIN; 1500-1700, Provence, FRA > 1690-1900, Dublin, ROS, WEM, IRL > >1600-2000, London, LIN, DBY, ENG >1830-2000, VIC, QLD, TAS, NSW, AUS >arabin@wave.co.nz >ARMAND: 1600 Languedoc, FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >ASSELIN, 1550-1700, Dieppe, Seine Maritime, FRA > 1700-1750, London, >ENG Chsdss771@cs.com >AUBE, Thomas: 1629, Shoreham, Kent, ENG rie@execulink.com >AURIOL: 1600 Languedoc, FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >AUSSET:1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >BALLIET, Anna Maria c1707 Schalback, Moselle, FRA > 1760s PA, USA >Magggie@aol.com >BAVIER, BAIVIER, BEVIER: 1600s BEL & FRA > 1660-1675 Mannheim, Pfalz, >GER > 1700s NY, USA BBSacks@aol.com >BEAUFILS: 1600-1700, Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA Chsdss771@cs.com >BEL: 1600 FRA PDeloriol@aol.com >BELLEAU, BELLUS, BELLOWS: 1590'S-1820 "Belleau Wood," FRA> ?BEL? > ENG >> Acadia (Maritime Provinces, CAN) > QUE, CAN > VT, USA >lzday@mindspring.com >BELLOC: 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >BENIER/BENNIER, Johan (John Joseph Charles): b1809 GER > d1881 >Reynella, > S. AUS [see also SPECK(T)] benier@bigpond.com >BERTIN: 1700-1800, IRL arabin@wave.co.nz >BERTINCHAMPS, Salomon: 1660 Hainaut FRA > 1726 Saarlouis, FRA >PeterHessel@t-online.de >BERTRAND: 1600 Languedoc, FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >BESSEY, BESEY, BISSAY, BISAY, BESSAI: 1653 Schoenaich Wuerttemberg, >GER >1735 Niefern Baden-Durlach, GER > 1788 Bandrow Galizien, POL> >1792 >Altfratautz Bukovina, ROM >1884 USA binkywa@worldnet.att.net >BEUZELIN 1550-1700, Rouen, Seine Maritime, FRA > 1685-? Hamburg, GER >Chsdss771@cs.com >BEVIER, BEVIERE, Louis: 1648 Lille, FRA > 1670-75 Mannheim, >Frankenthal, >Pfalz, GER > 1675 NY, USA BBSacks@aol.com >BIBB, Benjamin: c1660's FRA > Wales > VA, USA apartee3@hotmail.com >BLANCHAN, BLANCHON, BLANCHARD: Neauville au Cornet, Ricame, St. Paul, >Normandy, FRA > Armentieres, Artois, Flanders > Mannheim, Pfalz, GER > >USA >mbg4@sierranv.net >BLANCHARD: 1700's Canterbury, Kent, ENG andreav@island.net >BLANCHET, BRANCHETT: 1660's+ East Kent, ENG andreav@island.net >BLIGNAUT 1677 Chaltrait, FRA >1726 Cape Town, RSA >besterc@scinet.pentech.ac.za >BODINE: 1660s FRA > NY, USA denasabin@mary.big.net.au >BODINE: 1600's French Flanders (near Lille), FRA > late 1600's >possibly NL > >?ENG? > USA Dave@mediterraneanaccents.com >BOILEAU: Picardie FRA > c1750's? London, ENG geomarl@21century.com.au >BOISSIER: 1600 Languedoc, FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >BONNEFOUS (DE): 1600 FRA & CH PDeloriol@aol.com >BONNETT, Daniel: 1600s FRA > pre-1736 Friedrichstal, GER >johnandcarolyn@dellnet.com >BOOLS, BOOOLES,BOELS 1600-1700 ENG jane_e_jones@talk21.com >BOUCHER, Matthew: c1700 FRA > ENG > USA jfrost@netconnectmo.com >BOULANDE, Gilles: Rancourt, FRA > c1591 Sedan, FRA ahofstee@wwdc.com >BOULANDE, Jean: ?c1565? Harancourt, FRA ahofstee@wwdc.com >BOULANDE, Guillaume: b c1622 Rancourt, FRA > d. 1682 Sedan, FRA >ahofstee@wwdc.com >BREVARD, Jean: c1700, FRA > MD, USA apartee3@hotmail.com >BROUNE: 1700's Canterbury, Kent, ENG andreav@island.net >BUBBER(S): 1600-1800 Sandwich, Kent, ENG sooty28@home.com >BUDÉ: 1500 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >BUISSON: 1500 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >BUSINE, BUZINE: 1600's FRA > 1700's Canterbury, Kent, ENG >andreav@island.net >CAIL: Pre-1820 Hampshire or Wiltshire, ENG len.cail@lineone.net >CAREY, CAREE, CORRE c1735-1900 Canterbury, Kent, ENG sooty28@home.com >CASSER, CASSAR: 1700-1775 Southwest ENG CGeoff8520@aol.com >CHANDIEU (DE) 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >CHENEVIX; 1700-1800; IRL arabin@wave.co.nz >CHEVILLET, Claude: b. c1599 Dormans, FRA ahofstee@wwdc.com >COBBET, Daniel: Rotterdam, NL > 1765 PA, USA >johnandcarolyn@dellnet.com >COLLADON: 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >CORBIN: 1700s Margate, Kent, ENG >1800s London ENG >liffey@alphalink.com.au >CORDIER: see GORDIER >COUCAULT (DE): 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >COUSINE, Christine: pre-1732 Friedrichstal, GER >johnandcarolyn@dellnet.com >CRESSON: 1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > Middelburg, Zeeland, >NL > >Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > USA dhroe@hnet.net >CROCHERON: 1610 Spanish NL > NY, USA denasabin@mary.big.net.au >CROIX (DE LA): 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >DANIELL: 1700-1850,IRL arabin@wave.co.nz >DEAZELEY: FRA > c1700s? Fermanagh, IRL betty_nelson@bc.sympatico.ca >DE BAUN:1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > Middelburg, Zeeland, NL >> >Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > USA dhroe@hnet.net >DE BAY: c1700 San Quentin, Picardy FRA lihov@dial.pipex.com >DE BUIRE: 1600's FRA andreav@island.net >DE CAUX 1550-1650, Dieppe, Seine Maritime, FRA Chsdss771@cs.com >DE CHAUFOUR: 1600's FRA andreav@island.net >DE FEDGE, DEVEDGE, DEFFEDGE, DUFFEDGE, DUFFUDGE:1645-1800 Norwich, ENG >mitzi@bird65.fsnet.co.uk >DeFOREST: 1700's FRA > c1821 NY, USA poetspen@swbell.net >DE FORREST, Lydia: 1820's NY, USA Rlupham@aol.com >DE HERVILLE:1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > Middelburg, Zeeland >> >Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > USA dhroe@hnet.net >DeJARNAT, DeJARNETTE, Jean: c1700, FRA > ?Wales? > c1700 VA, USA >apartee3@hotmail.com >DE LA FONTAINE, FONTAINE: Maine region, FRA > Barnstaple, Devon, ENG > >Cork, IRL > USA bev@gte.net >DE LA FORTRIE, Isaac: c1667, Ballenguen, FRA > NL rie@execulink.com >DE LA HAYE, Maria: Douai, FR > NY, USA icarus@acncanada.net >DE LA RUE: 1600s Thorney, Cambridgeshire, ENG markilli@inreach.com >DE LIJSER, Johannes: c1688 Wengi, Bern, CH > NL rie@execulink.com >DEMAREST, DES MARETS, DEMAREE: 1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > >Middelburg, Zeeland > Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > NY & NJ, USA >dhroe@hnet.net >DE NEUFVILLE 1550-1650, Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA >Chsdss771@cs.com >DE PRE: 1500-1600 BEL > 1600 Skäfthammar, Uppland, SWE >christroy75@hotmail.com >DE REU, Jan: c1627, Ballenguen, FRA > NL rie@execulink.com >DE RUINE:1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > Middelburg, Zeeland, >NL > >Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > USA dhroe@hnet.net >DE SAIN: 1600s Thorney, Cambridgeshire, ENG markilli@inreach.com >DESPAIGNE/DESPAINE: 1700s Kent, ENG > 1800s London, ENG >lesley.a.jones@btinternet.com >DESREUX, Abraham: 1700's Friedrichstal, GER johnandcarolyn@dellnet.com >D'ESTIENVILLE: 1600's Guisnes, FRA andreav@island.net >DISSPAIN 1800s-1900s London, ENG lesley.a.jones@btinternet.com >D'iVERNOIS 1600-1700's Burgundy, FRA > 1700-1800's London, ENG >sallypocock@compuserve.com >DOUHAN: 1500-1600 BEL > 1600 Skäfthammar, Uppland, SWE >christroy75@hotmail.com >DU BOIS: 1600s Thorney, Cambridgeshire, ENG markilli@inreach.com >DU BOIS: Wicres, Lille, Artois, Flanders > NY, USA mbg4@sierranv.net >DUCRO: c1715 Canterbury, Kent, ENG andreav@island.net >DU FOU, 1550-1700, Fecamp & Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA >Chsdss771@cs.com >DUHAMEL: 1600's FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >DUMOND, Wallerand: Comines, Lille, Nord, FRA > NL > NY, USA >ewilson@itis.com >ENGARD, ENJARD, ENYART, ENYEART: see ENJART Wyndstrm@aol.com >ENJART, Charles: ?1625-1706? BEL Wyndstrm@aol.com >FAUVERGUE: 1600s Sandtoft, LIN, ENG >Thorney, CAM, ENG >markilli@inreach.com >FEDERB(E), FEDARB(E), FAID(H)ERB(E): 1600's Amsterdam, NL > 1650+ >Canterbury & Whitstable, Kent, ENG andreav@island.net >FEIJEN: Pre-1750 NL nursejfd@aol.com >FERDON: 1686, London, ENG > SC, USA nona@ferdon.fsnet.co.uk >FERET: c1530 Tourcoing, Flanders > c1585 Canterbury, Kent, ENG > >FERRE, FERRY: c1637 MA, USA, robertf@innercite.com >FEUILLET 1600-1700 Le Havre, FRA > 1650-1750, Haiti Chsdss771@cs.com >FOLLIET, FOLLIOT, FOLLET: 1740's St Dunstan's Green, London, ENG >stellaf@worldnet.att.net >FOLQUIER D'AIREBAUDOUSE: 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >FORTRIE, Isaac: see DE LA FORTRIE, Isaac rie@execulink.com >FOURME, FOURMI, FOURMEY, FORMEY, Jean: FRA > c1700+ London, ENG >stellaf@worldnet.att.net >FRANCISCO: 1500-1700 ESP? > Spanish Netherlands? > FRA > NL > ENG > >NJ, NY, MI, USA cleonardca@earthlink.net >FRANCOIS: 1500-1600 BEL > 1600 Skäfthammar, Uppland, SWE >christroy75@hotmail.com >FRANCONIS:1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >FREELAND, James: 1730 Londonderry, IRL Rlupham@aol.com >FREER, Hugo: 1638 Herly-en-Boulonias, Normandy, FRA > Mannheim, GER > >NY, USA ewilson@itis.com >FREER, Hugo: 1638 Herly-en-Boulonias, Normandy, FR > Mannheim, GER > >NY, USA icarus@acncanada.net >FREMAU(L)(X), FREMOULT: 1600's FRA > 1700's Kent, ENG >andreav@island.net >GALLATIN: 1500's CH PDelorial@aol.com >GARRISON: FRA > NY & NC, USA bev@gte.net >GAUTIER: 1500's FRA > CH PDelorial@aol.com >GEBERT, GEFERT, GEEVERT: FRA? > Prignitz area, Brandenburg, GER >genealogy@ib-fritsche.de >GEFERT, Martin: c1674-1749 Freyenstein, Prignitz area, Brandenburg, >GER. >genealogy@ib-fritsche.de >GEOFFROY, GEFFROY, GEOFFREY, JEOFFROY:1700-1775 Southwest ENG >CGeoff8520@aol.com >GERBERT, GERVERT, GERBER: Normandy?, FRA? > Saxony? > Prignitz area, >Brandenburg, GER. genealogy@ib-fritsche.de >GERBERT, Hinrich (Henri?): c1630-1686/7 Rohlsdorf, Prignitz area, >Brandenburg, GER. genealogy@ib-fritsche.de >GERMAINE: 1600s The Hague NL > 1700's London ENG > 1700's Carlow IRL > >1860's Vic AUS liffey@alphalink.com.au >GIBON: FRA > Bremen, GER > Tenn. USA ewilson@itis.com >GINGINS (DE): 1500 CH PDeloriol@aol.com >GITTON, Louis (aka JETTON, Lewis): c1700, FRA > NY, USA >apartee3@hotmail.com >GODELIER pre1700 Picardy, FRA > 1600-1700's Canterbury, Kent, ENG > >c1700-1800's Shoreditch & Bethnal Green, London, ENG >sallypocock@compuserve.com >GODEFROY: c1700-1760 Rouen/Bolbec, Seine Maritime, FRA > c1760+ >London, ENG >godefroy@clara.co.uk >GODIER 1700-1800's Bethnal Green & Shoreditch, London, ENG >sallypocock@compuserve.com >GODIN, Antoine, c1578 Coussi, FRA > 1636 Sedan, FRA ahofstee@wwdc.com >GODIN, 1500-1700 Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA > 1700-1900, London, >ENG >Chsdss771@cs.com >GONVLIJ: c1700 Leiden, NL fromvlee@wishmail.net >GORDIER, GOODIER, GOURDIER,CORDIER, Louis: FRA > GER > pre-1812 IRL > >c1812 CAN gordierA@magi.com >GOUY: 1500s Artois, FRA > Norwich, ENG >Thorney, CAM, ENG >markilli@inreach.com >GRANGEN, GRANGER: see GRANSON, etc. jebloom@mcs.net >GRANSON, GRANSEN, GRANCON: pre-1677 Europe > Dutch Colonies > NY, USA >jebloom@mcs.net >GRENU: 1600's BEL > CH PDeloriol@aol.com >GROUT: 1750-1850 Spitalfields, Whitechapel & Limehouse, London, ENG >rpoulson@btinternet.com >GRUET, GRUETT, GRUETTE, GREWETT, GREWETTE, GRUIT, GROUETTE, GOROITE: >Besancon, FRA > London, ENG > CAN & USA Besquire@mail.netquest.com >GUENIN. GUININ, GWENIN: FRA > Canterbury, Kent, ENG > London, ENG >davidait@club-internet.fr >GUERIN: St. Narzaire, Santonge, FRA > SC, NJ, NY & PA, USA >ewilson@itis.com >GUILLAUME: 1500-1600 BEL > 1600 Skäfthammar, Uppland, SWE >christroy75@hotmail.com > >End of surnames A-G. Remainder of surnames in next post. Please submit >any new surnames in format shown above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== >Be a participating subscriber! Post your surname interests often. >Once a month is about right, or more often if you have new details. >Address your post to Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/search >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

I would like to add these two surnames: BILLIBEAU: St. Narzaire, Santonge, FRA> SC, VA, USA FAURE/FORD: FRA> SC, VA, USA The BILLIBEAUS came from St. Narzaire, Santonge, France to South Carolina and to Manakintown, Virginia, USA with their relatives: the GUERINS. Mathurin, Francois, Peter, Vincent and Thomas Guerin were the children of Pierre Guerin and Jeanne Billibeau of St. Narzaire, Santonge, France. The parents did not come to America and probably were killed in France. The children, all adults except Thomas (age about 11 yr.), came to Charleston, SC, USA about 1680. A James Billibeau did come about the same time to Charleston, South Carolina and a Jacque Billibeau came to Manakintown, VA, USA. Daniel Guerin/Guerrant )son of Henri Guerin) came to Manakintown, VA from St. Narzaire, Santonge, FRA and Etienne Guerin came from St. Narzaire to New Paltz, NY, USA. Members of the Faure family came to Manakintown, VA, USA and to South Carolina, USA. They seem also to be associated with the Guerins. Thomas Guerin, the young child of about 11 years mentioned above, married Mary Faure/Ford in 1712 in SC, USA. I would really love to learn more about these families back in France. Elsie Wilson ehwilson@charter.net

This looks to be an interesting exercise but may I enquire how they can be considered Huguenots if their place of birth together with their religion is still to be established? Roy Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 7:46 PM Subject: [HWE] Submitting US/CAN Huguenot names | Hello -- this message is directed specifically at those of you who | have Huguenot ancestors who have been documented in US or Canadian | locations but who have *no information* which traces them back to | European, UK or Irish locations. | I believe I have thought of a way to include the names of these | ancestors on our website surnames list (see my three previous posts on | this subject today). | If your research falls into the category I've mentioned, please | contact me BUT ***off list please***! Then we'll see if we can work | out a solution. Thanks. Andrea | | | | ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== | Have you explored The Huguenot Ring? Access it at: | http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring/htm | Lots of interesting links and information! | | ============================== | Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate | your heritage! | http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog |

Listers -- First, thanks to all of you who have posted your surnames to add to the website surnames list. BUT I have an urgent request please! When posting in this way, please....please.....<snip> (ie. *delete*) any of the A-G and H-Z surnames lists that I posted earlier today, which may still be attached at the end of your own message. It is not necessary to send these back to the list once again as part of your own posts! But this is exactly what has happened a couple of times already. Please *shorten* your posts by snipping out (deleting) any unnecessary content from previous posts. Think of the waste of space in the list archives, with the same long lists of surnames which are now in there several times over. Also, consider that some European subscribers pay ISP fees based on the length of time it takes messages to download -- and longer messages take longer to be received. Thank you, everyone, for your cooperation in this matter. Andrea

Andrea: Please add DALLY, d'AILLY, DALLEY, DAILLI. sumo@bellatlantic.net ? Any listing of Huguenots who left European ports for French West Indies (& British WI). Tom D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 2:05 PM Subject: [HWE] Website SURNAMES list, A-G -- updates, please! > Fellow listers -- here are surnames A to G which have already been > submitted (some time ago), for our website (which is under > construction). > Please check for any errors or omissions. If you would like to add > your surnames, please *post to the list*, following the format > illustrated below. See my earlier post on this subject for further > guidance with these posts. Andrea > > Abbreviations for countries are used, as follows -- > BEL=Belgium, CAN=Canada, CH=Switzerland (Schweiz), ENG=Scotland, > FRA=France, GER=Germany, IRL=Ireland, NL=Netherlands, POL=Poland, > RSA=Republic of South Africa, RUS=Russia, SWE=Sweden, USA=United > States. > > AGOMBAR 1700-1800's Bethnal Green & Shoreditch, London, ENG > sallypocock@compuserve.com > ALLEMONG, ALLEMAN, Johan Jacob c1708 Schalback, Moselle, FRA > 1760s > PA, USA Magggie@aol.com > ALUIC, Abraham, pre-1690, Z. NL; rie@execulink.com > AMORY: 1600s Thorney, Cambridgeshire, ENG markillie@inreach.com > ANDRÉ: 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > ANGELLOY: 1600 Thorney, CAM, ENG > LIN, ENG markilli@inreach.com > ANGENNES (D'): 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > ANNEREAU pre-1750 Poitou, FRA > 1760-c1850 Shoreditch & Bethnal > Green, > London, ENG sallypocock@compuserve.com > ANY NAME 1500-1700 Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA Chsdss771@cs.com > ANY NAME 1500-1700, Rouen, Seine Maritime, FRA Chsdss771@cs.com > ANYNAME: FRA > POL hugenota@hotmail.com > ANYNAME: FRA > RUS hugenota@hotmail.com > ARABIN; 1500-1700, Provence, FRA > 1690-1900, Dublin, ROS, WEM, IRL > > 1600-2000, London, LIN, DBY, ENG >1830-2000, VIC, QLD, TAS, NSW, AUS > arabin@wave.co.nz > ARMAND: 1600 Languedoc, FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > ASSELIN, 1550-1700, Dieppe, Seine Maritime, FRA > 1700-1750, London, > ENG Chsdss771@cs.com > AUBE, Thomas: 1629, Shoreham, Kent, ENG rie@execulink.com > AURIOL: 1600 Languedoc, FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > AUSSET:1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > BALLIET, Anna Maria c1707 Schalback, Moselle, FRA > 1760s PA, USA > Magggie@aol.com > BAVIER, BAIVIER, BEVIER: 1600s BEL & FRA > 1660-1675 Mannheim, Pfalz, > GER > 1700s NY, USA BBSacks@aol.com > BEAUFILS: 1600-1700, Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA Chsdss771@cs.com > BEL: 1600 FRA PDeloriol@aol.com > BELLEAU, BELLUS, BELLOWS: 1590'S-1820 "Belleau Wood," FRA> ?BEL? > ENG > > Acadia (Maritime Provinces, CAN) > QUE, CAN > VT, USA > lzday@mindspring.com > BELLOC: 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > BENIER/BENNIER, Johan (John Joseph Charles): b1809 GER > d1881 > Reynella, > S. AUS [see also SPECK(T)] benier@bigpond.com > BERTIN: 1700-1800, IRL arabin@wave.co.nz > BERTINCHAMPS, Salomon: 1660 Hainaut FRA > 1726 Saarlouis, FRA > PeterHessel@t-online.de > BERTRAND: 1600 Languedoc, FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > BESSEY, BESEY, BISSAY, BISAY, BESSAI: 1653 Schoenaich Wuerttemberg, > GER >1735 Niefern Baden-Durlach, GER > 1788 Bandrow Galizien, POL> > 1792 > Altfratautz Bukovina, ROM >1884 USA binkywa@worldnet.att.net > BEUZELIN 1550-1700, Rouen, Seine Maritime, FRA > 1685-? Hamburg, GER > Chsdss771@cs.com > BEVIER, BEVIERE, Louis: 1648 Lille, FRA > 1670-75 Mannheim, > Frankenthal, > Pfalz, GER > 1675 NY, USA BBSacks@aol.com > BIBB, Benjamin: c1660's FRA > Wales > VA, USA apartee3@hotmail.com > BLANCHAN, BLANCHON, BLANCHARD: Neauville au Cornet, Ricame, St. Paul, > Normandy, FRA > Armentieres, Artois, Flanders > Mannheim, Pfalz, GER > > USA > mbg4@sierranv.net > BLANCHARD: 1700's Canterbury, Kent, ENG andreav@island.net > BLANCHET, BRANCHETT: 1660's+ East Kent, ENG andreav@island.net > BLIGNAUT 1677 Chaltrait, FRA >1726 Cape Town, RSA > besterc@scinet.pentech.ac.za > BODINE: 1660s FRA > NY, USA denasabin@mary.big.net.au > BODINE: 1600's French Flanders (near Lille), FRA > late 1600's > possibly NL > > ?ENG? > USA Dave@mediterraneanaccents.com > BOILEAU: Picardie FRA > c1750's? London, ENG geomarl@21century.com.au > BOISSIER: 1600 Languedoc, FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > BONNEFOUS (DE): 1600 FRA & CH PDeloriol@aol.com > BONNETT, Daniel: 1600s FRA > pre-1736 Friedrichstal, GER > johnandcarolyn@dellnet.com > BOOLS, BOOOLES,BOELS 1600-1700 ENG jane_e_jones@talk21.com > BOUCHER, Matthew: c1700 FRA > ENG > USA jfrost@netconnectmo.com > BOULANDE, Gilles: Rancourt, FRA > c1591 Sedan, FRA ahofstee@wwdc.com > BOULANDE, Jean: ?c1565? Harancourt, FRA ahofstee@wwdc.com > BOULANDE, Guillaume: b c1622 Rancourt, FRA > d. 1682 Sedan, FRA > ahofstee@wwdc.com > BREVARD, Jean: c1700, FRA > MD, USA apartee3@hotmail.com > BROUNE: 1700's Canterbury, Kent, ENG andreav@island.net > BUBBER(S): 1600-1800 Sandwich, Kent, ENG sooty28@home.com > BUDÉ: 1500 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > BUISSON: 1500 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > BUSINE, BUZINE: 1600's FRA > 1700's Canterbury, Kent, ENG > andreav@island.net > CAIL: Pre-1820 Hampshire or Wiltshire, ENG len.cail@lineone.net > CAREY, CAREE, CORRE c1735-1900 Canterbury, Kent, ENG sooty28@home.com > CASSER, CASSAR: 1700-1775 Southwest ENG CGeoff8520@aol.com > CHANDIEU (DE) 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > CHENEVIX; 1700-1800; IRL arabin@wave.co.nz > CHEVILLET, Claude: b. c1599 Dormans, FRA ahofstee@wwdc.com > COBBET, Daniel: Rotterdam, NL > 1765 PA, USA > johnandcarolyn@dellnet.com > COLLADON: 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > CORBIN: 1700s Margate, Kent, ENG >1800s London ENG > liffey@alphalink.com.au > CORDIER: see GORDIER > COUCAULT (DE): 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > COUSINE, Christine: pre-1732 Friedrichstal, GER > johnandcarolyn@dellnet.com > CRESSON: 1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > Middelburg, Zeeland, > NL > > Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > USA dhroe@hnet.net > CROCHERON: 1610 Spanish NL > NY, USA denasabin@mary.big.net.au > CROIX (DE LA): 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > DANIELL: 1700-1850,IRL arabin@wave.co.nz > DEAZELEY: FRA > c1700s? Fermanagh, IRL betty_nelson@bc.sympatico.ca > DE BAUN:1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > Middelburg, Zeeland, NL > > > Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > USA dhroe@hnet.net > DE BAY: c1700 San Quentin, Picardy FRA lihov@dial.pipex.com > DE BUIRE: 1600's FRA andreav@island.net > DE CAUX 1550-1650, Dieppe, Seine Maritime, FRA Chsdss771@cs.com > DE CHAUFOUR: 1600's FRA andreav@island.net > DE FEDGE, DEVEDGE, DEFFEDGE, DUFFEDGE, DUFFUDGE:1645-1800 Norwich, ENG > mitzi@bird65.fsnet.co.uk > DeFOREST: 1700's FRA > c1821 NY, USA poetspen@swbell.net > DE FORREST, Lydia: 1820's NY, USA Rlupham@aol.com > DE HERVILLE:1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > Middelburg, Zeeland > > > Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > USA dhroe@hnet.net > DeJARNAT, DeJARNETTE, Jean: c1700, FRA > ?Wales? > c1700 VA, USA > apartee3@hotmail.com > DE LA FONTAINE, FONTAINE: Maine region, FRA > Barnstaple, Devon, ENG > > Cork, IRL > USA bev@gte.net > DE LA FORTRIE, Isaac: c1667, Ballenguen, FRA > NL rie@execulink.com > DE LA HAYE, Maria: Douai, FR > NY, USA icarus@acncanada.net > DE LA RUE: 1600s Thorney, Cambridgeshire, ENG markilli@inreach.com > DE LIJSER, Johannes: c1688 Wengi, Bern, CH > NL rie@execulink.com > DEMAREST, DES MARETS, DEMAREE: 1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > > Middelburg, Zeeland > Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > NY & NJ, USA > dhroe@hnet.net > DE NEUFVILLE 1550-1650, Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA > Chsdss771@cs.com > DE PRE: 1500-1600 BEL > 1600 Skäfthammar, Uppland, SWE > christroy75@hotmail.com > DE REU, Jan: c1627, Ballenguen, FRA > NL rie@execulink.com > DE RUINE:1550's-1690's Picardy & Calais, FRA > Middelburg, Zeeland, > NL > > Mannhiem, Lower Palatinate, GER > USA dhroe@hnet.net > DE SAIN: 1600s Thorney, Cambridgeshire, ENG markilli@inreach.com > DESPAIGNE/DESPAINE: 1700s Kent, ENG > 1800s London, ENG > lesley.a.jones@btinternet.com > DESREUX, Abraham: 1700's Friedrichstal, GER johnandcarolyn@dellnet.com > D'ESTIENVILLE: 1600's Guisnes, FRA andreav@island.net > DISSPAIN 1800s-1900s London, ENG lesley.a.jones@btinternet.com > D'iVERNOIS 1600-1700's Burgundy, FRA > 1700-1800's London, ENG > sallypocock@compuserve.com > DOUHAN: 1500-1600 BEL > 1600 Skäfthammar, Uppland, SWE > christroy75@hotmail.com > DU BOIS: 1600s Thorney, Cambridgeshire, ENG markilli@inreach.com > DU BOIS: Wicres, Lille, Artois, Flanders > NY, USA mbg4@sierranv.net > DUCRO: c1715 Canterbury, Kent, ENG andreav@island.net > DU FOU, 1550-1700, Fecamp & Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA > Chsdss771@cs.com > DUHAMEL: 1600's FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > DUMOND, Wallerand: Comines, Lille, Nord, FRA > NL > NY, USA > ewilson@itis.com > ENGARD, ENJARD, ENYART, ENYEART: see ENJART Wyndstrm@aol.com > ENJART, Charles: ?1625-1706? BEL Wyndstrm@aol.com > FAUVERGUE: 1600s Sandtoft, LIN, ENG >Thorney, CAM, ENG > markilli@inreach.com > FEDERB(E), FEDARB(E), FAID(H)ERB(E): 1600's Amsterdam, NL > 1650+ > Canterbury & Whitstable, Kent, ENG andreav@island.net > FEIJEN: Pre-1750 NL nursejfd@aol.com > FERDON: 1686, London, ENG > SC, USA nona@ferdon.fsnet.co.uk > FERET: c1530 Tourcoing, Flanders > c1585 Canterbury, Kent, ENG > > FERRE, FERRY: c1637 MA, USA, robertf@innercite.com > FEUILLET 1600-1700 Le Havre, FRA > 1650-1750, Haiti Chsdss771@cs.com > FOLLIET, FOLLIOT, FOLLET: 1740's St Dunstan's Green, London, ENG > stellaf@worldnet.att.net > FOLQUIER D'AIREBAUDOUSE: 1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > FORTRIE, Isaac: see DE LA FORTRIE, Isaac rie@execulink.com > FOURME, FOURMI, FOURMEY, FORMEY, Jean: FRA > c1700+ London, ENG > stellaf@worldnet.att.net > FRANCISCO: 1500-1700 ESP? > Spanish Netherlands? > FRA > NL > ENG > > NJ, NY, MI, USA cleonardca@earthlink.net > FRANCOIS: 1500-1600 BEL > 1600 Skäfthammar, Uppland, SWE > christroy75@hotmail.com > FRANCONIS:1600 FRA > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > FREELAND, James: 1730 Londonderry, IRL Rlupham@aol.com > FREER, Hugo: 1638 Herly-en-Boulonias, Normandy, FRA > Mannheim, GER > > NY, USA ewilson@itis.com > FREER, Hugo: 1638 Herly-en-Boulonias, Normandy, FR > Mannheim, GER > > NY, USA icarus@acncanada.net > FREMAU(L)(X), FREMOULT: 1600's FRA > 1700's Kent, ENG > andreav@island.net > GALLATIN: 1500's CH PDelorial@aol.com > GARRISON: FRA > NY & NC, USA bev@gte.net > GAUTIER: 1500's FRA > CH PDelorial@aol.com > GEBERT, GEFERT, GEEVERT: FRA? > Prignitz area, Brandenburg, GER > genealogy@ib-fritsche.de > GEFERT, Martin: c1674-1749 Freyenstein, Prignitz area, Brandenburg, > GER. > genealogy@ib-fritsche.de > GEOFFROY, GEFFROY, GEOFFREY, JEOFFROY:1700-1775 Southwest ENG > CGeoff8520@aol.com > GERBERT, GERVERT, GERBER: Normandy?, FRA? > Saxony? > Prignitz area, > Brandenburg, GER. genealogy@ib-fritsche.de > GERBERT, Hinrich (Henri?): c1630-1686/7 Rohlsdorf, Prignitz area, > Brandenburg, GER. genealogy@ib-fritsche.de > GERMAINE: 1600s The Hague NL > 1700's London ENG > 1700's Carlow IRL > > 1860's Vic AUS liffey@alphalink.com.au > GIBON: FRA > Bremen, GER > Tenn. USA ewilson@itis.com > GINGINS (DE): 1500 CH PDeloriol@aol.com > GITTON, Louis (aka JETTON, Lewis): c1700, FRA > NY, USA > apartee3@hotmail.com > GODELIER pre1700 Picardy, FRA > 1600-1700's Canterbury, Kent, ENG > > c1700-1800's Shoreditch & Bethnal Green, London, ENG > sallypocock@compuserve.com > GODEFROY: c1700-1760 Rouen/Bolbec, Seine Maritime, FRA > c1760+ > London, ENG > godefroy@clara.co.uk > GODIER 1700-1800's Bethnal Green & Shoreditch, London, ENG > sallypocock@compuserve.com > GODIN, Antoine, c1578 Coussi, FRA > 1636 Sedan, FRA ahofstee@wwdc.com > GODIN, 1500-1700 Le Havre, Seine Maritime, FRA > 1700-1900, London, > ENG > Chsdss771@cs.com > GONVLIJ: c1700 Leiden, NL fromvlee@wishmail.net > GORDIER, GOODIER, GOURDIER,CORDIER, Louis: FRA > GER > pre-1812 IRL > > c1812 CAN gordierA@magi.com > GOUY: 1500s Artois, FRA > Norwich, ENG >Thorney, CAM, ENG > markilli@inreach.com > GRANGEN, GRANGER: see GRANSON, etc. jebloom@mcs.net > GRANSON, GRANSEN, GRANCON: pre-1677 Europe > Dutch Colonies > NY, USA > jebloom@mcs.net > GRENU: 1600's BEL > CH PDeloriol@aol.com > GROUT: 1750-1850 Spitalfields, Whitechapel & Limehouse, London, ENG > rpoulson@btinternet.com > GRUET, GRUETT, GRUETTE, GREWETT, GREWETTE, GRUIT, GROUETTE, GOROITE: > Besancon, FRA > London, ENG > CAN & USA Besquire@mail.netquest.com > GUENIN. GUININ, GWENIN: FRA > Canterbury, Kent, ENG > London, ENG > davidait@club-internet.fr > GUERIN: St. Narzaire, Santonge, FRA > SC, NJ, NY & PA, USA > ewilson@itis.com > GUILLAUME: 1500-1600 BEL > 1600 Skäfthammar, Uppland, SWE > christroy75@hotmail.com > > End of surnames A-G. Remainder of surnames in next post. Please submit > any new surnames in format shown above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Be a participating subscriber! Post your surname interests often. > Once a month is about right, or more often if you have new details. > Address your post to Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/search > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

EUDALY: 1600-1755, FRA>ENG>IRL>USA by 1755, seayawl@compuserve.com

O'DAILLY: 1600-1755, FRA>IRL>USA, seayawl@compuserve.com POUPART: 1600-1800, FRA>ENG>CAN, seayawl@compuserve.com

List A-G DEJARNATE, DEJARNETTE, JARNET:c 1680 FRA. > 1700 VA. USA urdahl@telus.net List H-Z LECLERCQ c. 1559 Valenciennes, Lesdeux, Normandy FRA. > c1579 Southampton, ENG. urdahl@telus.net MERCIER c1554 Tournai, Normandy FRA.>c.1579 Southampton, ENG. urdahl@telus.net WEAVER, WEVER, ( LEVELVE ) C 1700 FRA.> C1750 VA. USA urdahl@telus.net

re: 'vefu' and 'vefue'...clive is correct that these are old spelling of 'veuf' and 'veuve'--i found some old (17th century) French texts in which the words were used and one translates "La vefue sainte" as "the saintly widow.' 'Feu' (in addition to meaning fire) means as an adjective 'the late' or 'deceased', so it would read 'Antoine LE CONTE, widower' and 'Francoise DE LA RUE, widow of the late Louys THEUELIN. so Francoise was Louys widow, not his daughter. vefu(e) may be related to the verb 'vivre', to live, though currently the past participle for vivre is vécu. i found 'feu' as 'late' in a paperback Larousse dictionary i paid 95 cents for in the mid 1970s. finding vefu/e was a less than five minute web search on Yahoo using only those words as key words. the web is a wonderful tool and i would recommend that searching it be any genealogist's first step when encountering unfamiliar terms, localities, etc. a researcher on any subject today can answer in a matter of minutes (or sometimes seconds) questions which in times past would have required waiting till a library was open driving there, searching among its materials, and perhaps finding that the local branch did not have any sources addressing the issue (my branch sure wouldn't have 17th century french texts). now you can find obscure records on other continents at any time of the day or night with a few keystrokes, and your searches can lead you serendipitously to things you weren't even looking for. the other night a web search i did trying to help someone on another list found me a GIF of the original land patent documents from the 1830s for two of my ancestors who were early settlers in michigan! the web truly is the 'information superhighway' and not using is like trying to get around the physical world without using the wheel...you're going to walk a lot of needless miles and get some nasty blisters. the only blisters you get if you are a confirmed web searcher are on your fingers from typing and using your mouse :). -- "Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number-- Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you-- Ye are many -- they are few." ~Percy Bysshe Shelley, The Call to Freedom ---------- >From: "Clive Bates" <Clive.Bates@btinternet.com> >To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HWE] Translating records >Date: Sun, Oct 29, 2000, 2:30 PM > > Walloon Church at Canterbury. > > The following extract is from a record from the Walloon Church at > Canterbury. > > I asked a friend what is the meaning of 'feu', 'vfeu' and 'vefue' in : > > "Pg. 457) 1602 Sep 2 -- Mariage: Anthoine LE CONTE, vefu, natif de > Tournay; et Francoise DE LA RUE, ve(fue) de feu Louys THEUELIN, natifue > d'Armentieres" > > and I had this reply: > > " 'Feu' generally means fire, but can also mean 'hearth' or 'homestead', so > could be translated in this instance as Francoise DE LA RUE, native of > Armentieres, from the family (literally the home/hearth) of Louis Theuelin. > It could also mean 'the late Louis Theuelin', but it won't be that if he was > still alive at the time of the marriage! (I don't think it could mean widow > of the late Louis Theuelin, as their surnames don't match.) > > I've been racking my brains and I think that Vefu (masc) and Vefue (fem) are > the old spellings of Veuf and Veuve, which mean widower and widow > respectively. It looks as if this may have been a second marriage for both > of them, especially as her name isn't the family name. If she was widowed, > and this was a remarriage, it would explain the lack of a maiden name in the > entry. > > I'm not really up on 'Mediaeval' French, but I hope this helps or at least > makes sense! " > > > Would any lister care to comment on the phrase "de feu Louys THEUELIN" > Was this a shot-gun marriage, is Louis défunt or was this his daughter's > second marriage.? > > Does anyone know a website which explains the rudiments of translating early > French words found in genealogical records such as these. > > Clive > > > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > To access list archives: go to URL's below for 1)threaded or 2)keyword > 1) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/huguenots-walloons-europe > 2) http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

STIREN, BEL 1800' s- 1900's jslapp@wctc.net HORNICH, BEL, 1800' s- 1900's jslapp@wctc.net HARNICH, BEL,1800' s- 1900's jslapp@wctc.net PAQUET, BEL and LUX 1800' s- 1900'sjslapp@wctc.net BINTZ., BEL 1850' s- 1900's jslapp@wctc.net

BILLET, Kraft, b. c 1730-35, prob GER, d. c 1807, PA, USA CHERDRON, Heinrich, b. 1706 Erlenbach, GER, d. c 1771-72, PA, USA

This is from the "The BOBO Roots-Cellar" newsletter which I edit (VOL. IV, No. 2, July 2000) for persons researching the BOBO (BEAUBEAU, BABAU, BAUBAU, etc. surname).  This newsletter is copyrighted and intended for individual use and may not be uploaded in any form to commercial websites or released for sale. E-Mail: <A HREF="mailto:FamilyBOBO@aol.com">FamilyBOBO@aol.com</A>; BOBO Family Website: <A HREF="http://www.familybobo.com/"> http://www.familybobo.com/</A>  New Information Found On BOBO Family in France ROBERT G. (Bob) BOBO has reviewed materials on the BOBO family in France and discovered materials he overlooked in the "Rivierre Journals" in earlier research.  Bob comments, “Some of it is puzzling to me, and I don’t know if anyone can make sense of it.” Additional Translations Bob adds, “This translation is material that was overlooked because it was thought to be repetitious.  Although it does recount some of the same events, after closer examination, it appears to be from a different source. “Recanted in 1681 at the inquiry (questioning) in Couhe: At Couhe: Louis BOBEAU, 70 years old. Pierre BOBEAU with Judith MILLET and Isaac, age 10, Magdelaine andRenee, ages 16 and 14. At Ceaux: Abraham BAUBEAU with Jean NICHOLAS and 3 children. At Brux: Jean BOBEAU, age 19, son of Jean. At Saint Sauvant: Gabriel BAUBEAU with his wife Catherine RIVAULT and their children Gabriel, Laurence and Jean, 30, 25 and 24 years old. At Messe: Abraham BAUBEAU with Catherine LIREUIL and Abraham, age 9, Jaques BAUBEAU and Catherine, newborn. At Rom: Jean BOBEAU with Frances BACHELIER. Jaques BOBEAU with Marie MINEAU and Isaac, age 7. Louis BOBEAU, age 26. (Perhaps the condemned from 1697)” “Louis and Jean BOBEAU, 1697, ages 30 and 22 years old, condemned to be hung for the Easter assembly of 1697 by the Presidial (court?) of Poitiers, to be hung in Poitiers and Saint Sauvant.” “Louis BOBEAU, age 30 and Jean, age 22 whenthey turned themselves in with 400 others on April 9, 1697 at the Easter assembly.  Secretly convocated in the Saint Sauvant Forest (King’s Woods)where a country boy preached to them. Taken in flagrant misdemeanor with 7 others the GUENNOT, CHENEBAULT,DURAND, LESEEQ, GAILLARD and PIERRON and 33 others along the roads by thesentencing of (?) on May 7, 1697 as new converts duly reached and convinced ofhaving allowed themselves to assemble and to have heard the RPR preach andconforming the Declaration of July 12, 1686. Jean should be hung and strangled at Saint Nicholas Square in Poitiersand his dead body placed (displayed) on the main road in Couvre.  Louis should be hung and strangled on thepublic square in Saint Sauvant and his dead body placed on the main road ofPoitiers.”                “Sentencing was broken (overturned) in an appeal in Paris.”                “Local traditionbased on a kind of Kingdom of this BAUBEAU (family) of which the descendants would be in Argentina.”  (Based on a conversation with an unnamed source, March 15, 1980)                “The plan ofescape, filled with precautions, Girault from Bagnault, son-in-law of the fugitive (?) took these objects to be his, not at his mother-in-law’s house but at the home of Mirabeau, responsible for the transport at another address in Charbouneau to arrive at the BAUBEAU’shome, the wife not forwarned or not yet (aware?)” (Robert G. Bobo, July, 2000)                All quotations from “Dictionaire Des Familles du Poitou, 1680 – 1780, Vol. 1”, by Pasteur Jean Rivierre, copied from his notes in 1957. The Gabriel mentioned in this information seems to be our Gabriel BABAU who came to Virginia in 1700.  We have not found him, yet, on ship's lists from England to Virginia. We have earlier information this researcher discovered on the BEAUBEAU family in the Poitou area of France.   Charles H. (Chuck) BOBO, Coordinator The BOBO Family Assn. FamilyBOBO@aol.com or ChuckBobo@aol.com