MALLET c1680´s-1700´s Breslau & Berlin, GER > 1700´s SWE nyhammer.gustavsson@tidaholm.mail.telia.com

Regarding the Web site, your outline is inclusive and seems fine to me, at this time. I am not prescient enough or confident enough to know what the problems and opportunites will be, eventually Once it is up and running, however, I believe we all will be able to better comment on it and criticize it (in a positive manner, I hope) aftter having "worked" with it for a while. I encourage you to continue with this effort as there is real value in it. I also urge you to keep in as simple as you can. C Geoffroy, Oregon, USA

Please add:- (De)BOUFFLER, (De)BOUFFLET, 1600-1700, Pays de BRAY, Picardie, FRA, jrbouffler@aol.com. BATAILLE, 1600-1700, Picardie, FRA, jrbouffler@aol.com Thanks John B .

i'm afraid i have to say something about the way the list has been going the last few weeks. ever since Andrea commented on the quietness, there has been a flood of criticism of what has always been the very best genealogy list i have ever been on--full of invaluable information, and with expert hands-on 'listmastering' by andrea. i used to look forward to reading it. now i dread it...i'm weary of the 'this list isn't in fourteen different european languages' complaints, and the carping about andrea's plans for a web site reminds me of people who stand with arms folded while you paint a wall and then say 'you missed a spot.' all of this begs the original issue which is that the list's vitality depends ultimately on the LIST MEMBERS. i freely admit that i have not been a very valuable asset here myself, doing little beyond posting queries about my elusive Franciscos. but i take total responsibility for that. i've had serious job and health problems that have virtually curtailed any genealogical research other than keeping up with a few lists and responding to genealogy-related email--and often the only response i can give is 'i think i have some info on that in my files and will get it to you when i am able.' the last thing i would EVER think to do is to blame my failure to participate more and to come up with information of interest to my fellow listees on Andrea! going back over the folder i have of email i considered worth keeping from this list, 95% was posted BY ANDREA and no one else. Roy Day wrote, >> By providing all the information to callers at the web site, as would be the >> case with your proposal, there will be a disincentive to join the list in my opinion this is absolutely NOT TRUE. no web site no matter how informative can ever be complete, and posting info that is already known SAVES time on the list (and andrea's time as listmaster) because there's no need to repeat info current listees already know every time someone new joins...she can just refer them to the site (there is also the archives, but some people are never going to bother with that, and in the past few months it was not complete anyway). it has frustrated me that on virtually every Rootsweb list i am on, the same questions, some of them very basic, keep coming up. (on the NY county lists, every 3 days someone asks how to get NY state vital records.) some of the questions in my opinion should not even be posted to the list...that includes ANYTHING that someone could find out from a good dictionary or atlas (which no one seriously purporting to get into genealogy can fail to own), and basics like 'what is a huguenot' for which there are umpteen web sites that respond to a search with 'huguenot' as a key word (if the person doesn't own an encyclopedia). maybe i'm just old fashioned, having started in genealogy ten years ago when there was no internet--back then if you were too lazy to do research you were SOL unless you could afford to pay for the skills of a real genealogist. i didn't think when i joined these Rootsweb lists that the point of them was to let lazy amateurs use other listees as webster's or a hammond atlas or in any other way as a substitute for common sense and basic research skills *i* learned from my grade school librarian. i thought the point was to share information we have discovered about our own lines, to meet others researching those lines, to discover information that other listees have dug up on the list topic in general and to contribute what we have dug up on it. no web site, no matter how well maintained, can EVER be as dynamic as a list. what a website WILL do is cut down on the 'newbie' garbage. all the lists other than Rootsweb that i have been on in my 5 plus years online, covering a variety of topics, have a FAQ which is sent to all listees upon joining, which answers ALL the typical newbie questions (like 'what is a huguenot.') on the lists where posts are filtered through a listmaster (and i have several friends who are listmasters on such lists) posts that show the person has not read the FAQ are bounced back with a direction that they do so, not posted to the list as a whole; if the posts are automatic, the listmaster directs the questioner to the FAQ. if the person persists in wasting bandwidth, they are unsubbed by the listmeister. if my NY county lists had a FAQ, updated as necessary by the listmaster with the help of the listees, i wouldn't have to plow through the same explanation about vital records several times a week. putting the info on a web site to which all new listees were directed would also cut down on mind-numbing repetition of the basics. if someone CAN get everything they need off the site, why SHOULD they join the list? obviously they want static data, not dynamic give and take. seems to me a lot of the 'silent listees' only want static data too...not 'class participation.' andrea was trying to figure out how to encourage the silent ones to participate...most of what she got back is 'well if YOU'd do this and that and this and that, THEN the list would be good.' genealogists with real interest in the subject of this list will not be deterred by a web site with lots of information, but attracted. lazyboneses won't join, and so what? they want only to grab some easily available info off the net to satisfy a momentary itch to 'find my ancesters' (the usual misspelling)', not do real genealogical research and share it with other researchers. if i ran a list, the third time someone submitted a post with an uninformative or misleading subject line they'd be gone. once is ignorance, twice can be haste or absentmindedness...3 times is apathy or stupidity. i'd rather be on a list of ten true genealogists who were engaging in dialogue than one with hundreds of 'lurkers', a few true participants, and a workhorse of a listmaster turning him/herself inside out trying to pick up the slack, only to be told 'now do a double backflip for me.' as i said, i haven't shown much evidence of being a real genealogist myself since i've been on the list. but starting from one piece of paper from my mother (most of the info on which turned out to be wrong) and a handful of names she gave me that she got from her mother (no one on that side talked much about origins, for various reasons, and my dad died when i was a baby and i hadn't had contact with his family in almost 30 years), i not only traced all but one of the my great grandparents' lines back to europe, but then traced those families DOWN from the g gparent level in order to contact my living relatives down to my generation. and i did it before there was a web, by sitting 8 hours a day at the genealogy libraries going through musty books, or at the national archives cranking a microfilm reader till i got bursitis in my shoulder. that is why it drives me insane to see people ask 'what is a huguenot'--if i NEVER see that asked again i would be quite happy. maybe i'm the one who's crazy to wonder why anyone would JOIN a huguenot list without knowing whether it was a religion, a nationality, or a kind of donut. i'm sorry if this offends someone. but the critiquing of and carping at Andrea has offended me and i just had to say so. whether or not this list is translated into swahili or Andrea puts the name of every single huguenot ever born and his uncle Francois on a web site, it's a fantastic list and she's a fantastic listmaster! and until i'm putting into this list even a fraction of what she does, i refuse to ask her to do more or do things differently. Poor-Excuse-for-a-Listmember Chris in California -- Still there is a small difference between 'to know' and 'to do'. As long as the subconscious is not educated, the easiest thing in the world faces insurmountable difficulties. ~Itsuo Tsuda

FRANCE, JOHN b 1760 d Jan 21, 1811 per "Ulster County in the Revolution" (USA). Ancestors probably FRA, GER, NL, BEL.

In a follow up to Andrea's response the Quarto Series volume dealing with Denizations for the period 1603-1700 is actually 18 and not 28 - a slip of the finger in all probability. I have checked and can find no denization for the above names in 1631 but have found the following Henry BRUNEAU - 5 March 1685/6 Paul BRUNEAU - 5 March 1685/6. There are no entries under BRONAUGH. The Threadneedle Street Tesmoignages are Volume 21 and there are again two entries as follows Louis BRUNEAU : Anthoine son fils - 12 November 1690 Jacques BRUNNEAU - 20 March 1682. Again no entry under BRONAUGH. Roy. | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> | To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:09 PM | Subject: [HWE] BRONAUGH & BRUNEAU connections | | | Listers -- | This is in response to Malinda <mthiesse@swbell.net> who posted in | excitement today re: her recent discovery of BRONAUGH & BRUNEAU | connections. First, great news on your new info, Malinda, and thanks | for sharing with us! | | Malinda, I assume that the "B listings" you referred to are the | Threadneedle tésmoignages. There is indeed BRUNEAU & BRUNNEAU (but no | BRONAUGH) listed there. But....but.....not wanting to throw a bucket | of cold water on your enthusiasm (and I know you are most probably | very aware of this but perhaps others are not)...but....I must | strongly caution that the listings in the tésmoignages *may not* prove | any connections to your own ancestors. They just simply happen to be | the same names, until proved otherwise. | Unfortunately, I cannot check the exact details of the listing for | you because I no longer have that film. Perhaps a major library near | you has the Quarto series? Or you have a local FHC where you can order | films? | Second, if you have learned that your BRUNEAU/BRONAUGH were | naturalized in England in 1631, then it would be a good idea to check | the "Letters of Denization and Acts of Naturalization in England and | Ireland, 1603-1700" which is Vol. 28 of the Quarto series. I don't | have the LDS film number at my fingrtips but it should be in the list | archives. Last, *if* BRUNEAUs appeared in French Protestant Church | records in England (or at least in those which have been published by | Hug. Soc. of Ldn), their names should be in the IGI | (www.familysearch.org). | | Good luck with this and I know you'll give us updates when they | occur. Thanks for being a faithful contributer to the list. It's | appreciated. Andrea

Thank you so much for responding, Andrea and Roy..... If I had to guess here, I'd say that the spelling permutation from BRUNEAU to BRONAUGH looks a wee bit Celtic (or is that Gaelic ?) to me. I think I'll mosey over to the other Genealogy Diva in my cosmos at Scotch-Irish-L and see what Ms Linda Merle has to say. Thank you again for taking the time and giving me such excellent input. malinda jones Roy Day wrote: > In a follow up to Andrea's response the Quarto Series volume dealing with > Denizations for the period 1603-1700 is actually 18 and not 28 - a slip of > the finger in all probability. > > I have checked and can find no denization for the above names in 1631 but > have found the following > > Henry BRUNEAU - 5 March 1685/6 > Paul BRUNEAU - 5 March 1685/6. > > There are no entries under BRONAUGH. > > The Threadneedle Street Tesmoignages are Volume 21 and there are again two > entries as follows > > Louis BRUNEAU : Anthoine son fils - 12 November 1690 > Jacques BRUNNEAU - 20 March 1682. > > Again no entry under BRONAUGH. > > Roy. > > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> > | To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> > | Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:09 PM > | Subject: [HWE] BRONAUGH & BRUNEAU connections > | > | > | Listers -- > | This is in response to Malinda <mthiesse@swbell.net> who posted in > | excitement today re: her recent discovery of BRONAUGH & BRUNEAU > | connections. First, great news on your new info, Malinda, and thanks > | for sharing with us! > | > | Malinda, I assume that the "B listings" you referred to are the > | Threadneedle tésmoignages. There is indeed BRUNEAU & BRUNNEAU (but no > | BRONAUGH) listed there. But....but.....not wanting to throw a bucket > | of cold water on your enthusiasm (and I know you are most probably > | very aware of this but perhaps others are not)...but....I must > | strongly caution that the listings in the tésmoignages *may not* prove > | any connections to your own ancestors. They just simply happen to be > | the same names, until proved otherwise. > | Unfortunately, I cannot check the exact details of the listing for > | you because I no longer have that film. Perhaps a major library near > | you has the Quarto series? Or you have a local FHC where you can order > | films? > | Second, if you have learned that your BRUNEAU/BRONAUGH were > | naturalized in England in 1631, then it would be a good idea to check > | the "Letters of Denization and Acts of Naturalization in England and > | Ireland, 1603-1700" which is Vol. 28 of the Quarto series. I don't > | have the LDS film number at my fingrtips but it should be in the list > | archives. Last, *if* BRUNEAUs appeared in French Protestant Church > | records in England (or at least in those which have been published by > | Hug. Soc. of Ldn), their names should be in the IGI > | (www.familysearch.org). > | > | Good luck with this and I know you'll give us updates when they > | occur. Thanks for being a faithful contributer to the list. It's > | appreciated. Andrea > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > For list guidelines and other important H-W-E list info, read and save > the "welcome message" you got when you subscribed. Lost your copy? > Contact list admin, Andrea, andreav@island.net, to get a new one. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Good luck with the web site Andrea - we (myself and recently discovered cousins) are going to try to put together a website on the TOUCHARD name. I know its a big step - what to put in, what to leave out.... However, you can always re-publish it as it gets more polished. Cannot wait to view yours. I am so pleased that it has only taken six months to find enough info on my family to think about a website! I understand some of my counsins have been searching for years. And the real joy is finding living family members to "talk" to as well as learning about my ancestors. May I take this opportunity to thank you for all your hard work - believe me we (a big, big, audience) are listening - or is that looking! >From: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com >To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D Digest V00 #287 >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:16:34 -0800 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Hi Andrea, The template appears to be looking good. One general point to consider is the very basic one and that is what is the web site hoping to achieve? I ask the question because arranged as you have suggested could well make this list obsolete and I would suggest that is not what you are trying to do but rather to encourage more people to join. The site in my view needs to be in two main parts 1. Sufficient information to interest someone seeking their roots to make them want to join the list. 2. Having joined the list provide further information/help that ensures they remain. This can be a achieved in two ways. a) By providing a members section on the web site that can be used by list members only. This would be similar to that employed on many sites and a good example is the Guild of One-Name Studies. b) The information can be distributed via the list only. In this case the information available should be listed on the web site but the means of accessing the information be by joining the list. By providing all the information to callers at the web site, as would be the case with your proposal, there will be a disincentive to join the list whereas my suggestion would, hopefully, reverse that situation. Also one thing missing in your draft is a section dealing with the procedure in applying for copies of certificates etc in European Countries. This could include a number of draft letters in French and possibly other languages setting out how to apply for such information. This could be a part of your suggested 'translation on line'. Another way in which this can be done is to link to the Anglo-French FHS who issue a number of such documents for a small charge but do not have a web site. The publications from this source are excellent but as I am a member I would say that anyway. Maybe they would permit you to list their publications together with how they can be obtained. Roy | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> | To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 12:37 AM | Subject: [HWE] Website Outline/Template | | Snip | | The website has been organized into three sections, which are: | Introduction, The Basics, and Beyond the Basics. Not all the content | specifically concerns Hug/Walls research but I think all of it is | relevent to genealogical research in general. Here are more details | about the content of each section: | | INTRODUCTION: | General welcome to the site. Info about the list (description of the | list, | geographical focus, etc.) A link for subscribing if anyone wants to do | so immediately. For those who want a little more info, there are | several links | to the following further info -- | *What exactly is a mailing list? | *Who were the Huguenots and Walloons? | *Huguenot/Walloon History and Timeline | | THE BASICS: | A series of questions which, when clicked on, will lead to the | answers. The questions are: | * How can I subscribe to (join) the list? | * How do I post a message to the list? | * How do I unsubscribe from (leave) the list? | * What are the list guidelines? | * How do I access the list archives? | * What surnames are Huguenot names? (This deals with the oft-asked | question: Is my name a Huguenot name?) | | BEYOND THE BASICS: | Lots of headings in this section which link to further info: | *H-W-E Surnames List | *Alternate Surnames List (this would be the one by Australian Family | Tree Connection) | * Organizations and Addresses (listed here would be info such as Hug. | Soc. of Ldn, German Hug. Society, etc.) | * Huguenot Links & Websites (eg. Huguenot Ring, sections on Cyndi's | List & Olive Tree, etc.) | * Other Links & Websites (eg. LDS site, geographically focused sites | such as GENUKI, FIANNA, European sites, etc.) | *Huguenot Reading Lists (lists of relevent texts on several other | sites) | *Research Suggestions (this is an outline I've been working on, | listing general basic suggestions for research. Under construction.) | * LDS Resources and Facilities (eg. link to their website, IGI, FHC's | etc.) | * Other Mailing Lists (ie. links to geographical, surnames, | Huguenot-L, etc) | * Translations Online | * Maps Online | * Dictionaries & Word Lists | * Search Engines (general & genealogical) | * Book Finders (eg, BookRadar and the like) | * Viruses & Hoaxes (etiquette on how to deal with it on the list, what | to do, sites which list latest viruses & also hoaxes) | * Harrassment, Abuse & Verbal Attacks: What you Can Do (this type of | thing has, thankfully, never happened on our list but this info has | been posted in the past as a preventative & to make expectations | clear. Provides listers with knowledge they need to deal with this | should it every occur, here or elsewhere.) | | Lastly, there are also three sections which are specifically for | subscriber contribution and input (four sections if you count the | Surnames List). The others are: | * Subscriber Look-ups & Resources | This would include a list which I believe is similar to the one | Roy has mentioned, ie. listers would submit a list of which references | they have handy and in which they would be willing to do look-ups if | requested privately. Perhaps Roy can give us further thoughts on this | section? | * Subscriber Websites & Submissions | If any listers have personal websites, this would be the place to | have a link to them. Also, if anyone has written articles, etc. on | Hugs/Walls and would like to submit them for the website, this would | also be the place for them. This section may not be necessary if there | is not sufficient input or need for it. | * Brick Walls & Dead Ends | This one's self-explanatory. It would fall under the category of | "I've tried everything! What do I do now? Where to look next? Help!!" | These queries would probably be required to be posted to the list | first, then posted on the website and hopefully, someone out there on | the Web will eventually wander by with some help. | | That's it. Your thoughts? Remember, praise or tar/feathering are | best sent to me privately <g>. Points which you want to raise for | general discussion should be posted to the list. Andrea

Fellow listers -- I should have mentioned the list archives in my response to Malinda previously. That is, if you've deleted past messages from the list (as Malinda had with the B surnames from the tésmoignages), they are still accessible in the list archives. Also, if you have a question which you are thinking of posting, check the list archives first because the answer may be in there already. An example here was Clive's question re: translation of "feu" the other day. I know this question has been asked before (quite a few months ago) because I asked it! In my ignorance, I once thought that "feu" translated as "the elder" rather than the correct "the late". So, please, remember the list archives as a useful tool for accessing information. There are two methods you can use: * Keyword or Searchable Archives at: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl. Type in the name of any list (in our case, Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L), then type in any keyword or words you are looking for. This could be a topic, a location, even an e-mail address if you want to find all the posts sent by a particular person. Surnames can be searched for, of course, but here it gets a bit tricky because, if you search for just one spelling variant, you may not find the posts which contain other spelling variants. * The Threaded Archives is at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L/. Once on this site, click on the month you are interested in and all the subject lines for posts during that month will appear. You can browse through the subject lines and, if you see one that interests you, you can click on it to bring up the whole message (illustrates the importance of good, specific, relevent subject lines!) Go directly to the October threaded archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/huguenots-walloons-europe/2000-1 0. The 10 at the end of the URL is for October. Just change that last number to the appropriate one to get to the threaded archives of any p articular month (eg. 1=Jan, 2=Feb, etc). Regards to all, Andrea

Oh my goodness !!!..........lookee what I just found out ...I'm a Bronaugh descendant. I didn't save the "B" listings because I didn't think they applied to me. Can this be true ???? malinda jones The original name was French - Bruneau. They were Hugenots naturalized (Bronaugh) in England in 1631. 534. Jeremiah Bronaugh was born in Virginia. He died in Stafford County, Virginia. Ref: "Darnall, Darnell Family" by Dr. C.H. Smith. Will written 14 April 1736, Probate 5 Jan 1749 found in Will Book A - 1, 1721-1752, p.228-230. Ref: "Virginia Genealogies" by Rev. Horace Edwin Hayden, p.534 Ref: "Genealogies of Virginia Families" William & Mary College Quarterly Vol.I, p.470-472. Ref: "A History of the Bronaugh Family in America" by Sarah Amelia Bronaugh Benson 1980. First generation: Two brothers livng in the Northern Neck of Virginia early 1700, William and Jeramiah. (The Northern Neck region lies between the Rappahannock and the Potomac Rivers.) William married Ann; son Jeremiah and other children. (W. Richmond Co., Va. Sept.1717, p.2, Apr. 1718) (William and Mary Quarterly XVIII,p.181). Jeremiah lived in Stafford Co. had 3 sons: Jeremiah, David and Samuel. Samuel's Will - Prince William Co. 3 Jun 1741 mentions his sons Thomas and Francis. Father Jeremiah and brothers Jeremiah and David were Executors. The original name was French - Bruneau. They were Hugenots naturalized (Bronaugh) in England in 1631.

Annweiler, Pfalz 1600> 1850 US Hope this is also an acceptable format as there were many H-W families in this town. Pinky Palladino

Listers -- This is in response to Malinda <mthiesse@swbell.net> who posted in excitement today re: her recent discovery of BRONAUGH & BRUNEAU connections. First, great news on your new info, Malinda, and thanks for sharing with us! Malinda, I assume that the "B listings" you referred to are the Threadneedle tésmoignages. There is indeed BRUNEAU & BRUNNEAU (but no BRONAUGH) listed there. But....but.....not wanting to throw a bucket of cold water on your enthusiasm (and I know you are most probably very aware of this but perhaps others are not)...but....I must strongly caution that the listings in the tésmoignages *may not* prove any connections to your own ancestors. They just simply happen to be the same names, until proved otherwise. Unfortunately, I cannot check the exact details of the listing for you because I no longer have that film. Perhaps a major library near you has the Quarto series? Or you have a local FHC where you can order films? Second, if you have learned that your BRUNEAU/BRONAUGH were naturalized in England in 1631, then it would be a good idea to check the "Letters of Denization and Acts of Naturalization in England and Ireland, 1603-1700" which is Vol. 28 of the Quarto series. I don't have the LDS film number at my fingrtips but it should be in the list archives. Last, *if* BRUNEAUs appeared in French Protestant Church records in England (or at least in those which have been published by Hug. Soc. of Ldn), their names should be in the IGI (www.familysearch.org). Good luck with this and I know you'll give us updates when they occur. Thanks for being a faithful contributer to the list. It's appreciated. Andrea

Please add PASQUAY 1600 Annweiler, Pfalz >1850 Baltimore,NY,Philadelphia Thanks, Pinky Palladino

Should have done this first. Have checked the sites and corrections are below. Please delete previous message as there were some address changes. Sorry. Debbie Wilson http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/writing.htm Old handwriting samples and examples of the various formations of the letters of the alphabet over the centuries. http://www.rootscomputing.com/howto/cousin/cousin.htm Relationship chart. http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/soundex/soundex.html Soundex is a coded surname index based on the way a name sounds rather then the way it is spelt. Find your surname code then go to the various sites listed. http://www.hartford-hwp.com/gateway/index.html World history. Includes search engines; world history archives; images from history; and discussion lists. http://www.gpiag-asthma.org/drpsmith/amt1.htm Archaic Medical Terms for Genealogists. Further assistance can be requested from the author. www.francogene.com/ www.genealogie.com/ Genealogy in France and other French speaking countries. Includes a bibliography, meaning of French names, databases, and services available. http://www.gensource.com/ifoundit/index.htm Genealogy search engine. http://www.worldgenweb.org/ Connecting the World through Genealogy. Including: Africa, Asia, Baltic Sea, Canada, Carribbean, Central America, Europe, Mediterranean, Mexico, Middle East, Pacific, Southern America, UK and USA.

Hi, list -- This is a follow-up to my earlier post today re: H-W-E website. I have outlined below how I have organized the website and I welcome comments & suggestions from you. Sorry for the length. Hope you'll bear with me. For example, is the organization OK or does it need improvement? Or have I forgotten anything that should be included? Is anything unnecessary and irrelevent? You get the idea. If I don't hear anything to the contrary, I'll assume that you're in agreement. A reminder -- this is just the "bare bones" outline of the website. We will get to the actual content of the links in later posts. Let's just stick to the outline and headings I've included below, for now. About your questions/comments/suggestions -- if you want to raise a certain point for discussion, then please post to the list. Otherwise, if you just want to say to me "That's great" or conversely "I don't like it" <g>, then it might be best to just contact me privately, off the list. If replying to the list, though, please remember to <snip>! The website has been organized into three sections, which are: Introduction, The Basics, and Beyond the Basics. Not all the content specifically concerns Hug/Walls research but I think all of it is relevent to genealogical research in general. Here are more details about the content of each section: INTRODUCTION: General welcome to the site. Info about the list (description of the list, geographical focus, etc.) A link for subscribing if anyone wants to do so immediately. For those who want a little more info, there are several links to the following further info -- *What exactly is a mailing list? *Who were the Huguenots and Walloons? *Huguenot/Walloon History and Timeline THE BASICS: A series of questions which, when clicked on, will lead to the answers. The questions are: * How can I subscribe to (join) the list? * How do I post a message to the list? * How do I unsubscribe from (leave) the list? * What are the list guidelines? * How do I access the list archives? * What surnames are Huguenot names? (This deals with the oft-asked question: Is my name a Huguenot name?) BEYOND THE BASICS: Lots of headings in this section which link to further info: *H-W-E Surnames List *Alternate Surnames List (this would be the one by Australian Family Tree Connection) * Organizations and Addresses (listed here would be info such as Hug. Soc. of Ldn, German Hug. Society, etc.) * Huguenot Links & Websites (eg. Huguenot Ring, sections on Cyndi's List & Olive Tree, etc.) * Other Links & Websites (eg. LDS site, geographically focused sites such as GENUKI, FIANNA, European sites, etc.) *Huguenot Reading Lists (lists of relevent texts on several other sites) *Research Suggestions (this is an outline I've been working on, listing general basic suggestions for research. Under construction.) * LDS Resources and Facilities (eg. link to their website, IGI, FHC's etc.) * Other Mailing Lists (ie. links to geographical, surnames, Huguenot-L, etc) * Translations Online * Maps Online * Dictionaries & Word Lists * Search Engines (general & genealogical) * Book Finders (eg, BookRadar and the like) * Viruses & Hoaxes (etiquette on how to deal with it on the list, what to do, sites which list latest viruses & also hoaxes) * Harrassment, Abuse & Verbal Attacks: What you Can Do (this type of thing has, thankfully, never happened on our list but this info has been posted in the past as a preventative & to make expectations clear. Provides listers with knowledge they need to deal with this should it every occur, here or elsewhere.) Lastly, there are also three sections which are specifically for subscriber contribution and input (four sections if you count the Surnames List). The others are: * Subscriber Look-ups & Resources This would include a list which I believe is similar to the one Roy has mentioned, ie. listers would submit a list of which references they have handy and in which they would be willing to do look-ups if requested privately. Perhaps Roy can give us further thoughts on this section? * Subscriber Websites & Submissions If any listers have personal websites, this would be the place to have a link to them. Also, if anyone has written articles, etc. on Hugs/Walls and would like to submit them for the website, this would also be the place for them. This section may not be necessary if there is not sufficient input or need for it. * Brick Walls & Dead Ends This one's self-explanatory. It would fall under the category of "I've tried everything! What do I do now? Where to look next? Help!!" These queries would probably be required to be posted to the list first, then posted on the website and hopefully, someone out there on the Web will eventually wander by with some help. That's it. Your thoughts? Remember, praise or tar/feathering are best sent to me privately <g>. Points which you want to raise for general discussion should be posted to the list. Andrea

Thanks Clive and indeed I would be more content. It still leaves the question unanswered however. It could well be profitable if some of the families concerned set out their reasons for so believing. As a result of which maybe someone on the list could then provide assistance or help. Roy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Bates" <Clive.Bates@btinternet.com> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [HWE] Submitting US/CAN Huguenot names | I'm sure Roy writes with a gentle smile, but if Andrea had written in her | first paragraph "those who *believe* they have Huguenot ancestors .......and | are *searching * for information which.....", would he be content? | | Clive | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: Roy Day <royday@dial.pipex.com> | To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 8:51 PM | Subject: Re: [HWE] Submitting US/CAN Huguenot names | | | > This looks to be an interesting exercise but may I enquire how they can be | > considered Huguenots if their place of birth together with their religion | is | > still to be established? | > | > Roy Day | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> | > To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> | > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 7:46 PM | > Subject: [HWE] Submitting US/CAN Huguenot names | > | > | > | Hello -- this message is directed specifically at those of you who | > | have Huguenot ancestors who have been documented in US or Canadian | > | locations but who have *no information* which traces them back to | > | European, UK or Irish locations. | > | I believe I have thought of a way to include the names of these | > | ancestors on our website surnames list (see my three previous posts on | > | this subject today). | > | If your research falls into the category I've mentioned, please | > | contact me BUT ***off list please***! Then we'll see if we can work | > | out a solution. Thanks. Andrea | > | | > | | > | | > | ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== | > | Have you explored The Huguenot Ring? Access it at: | > | http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring/htm | > | Lots of interesting links and information! | > | | > | ============================== | > | Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate | > | your heritage! | > | http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog | > | | > | > ______________________________ | | | | ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== | When posting to the Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list: | SURNAMES written in capitals, s'il vous plaît. | Also, please specify dates and location, including country. | | ============================== | Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases | http://www.ancestry.com/search | Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! |

Andrea, You're doing a wonderful job. My hat's off to you. Hope I'll be able to contribute something sooner than later--when I get my folk back to the Old Country <grin> My only suggestion on the web site, since you asked: 1) Plain vanilla is wonderful; graphics take oodles of time to load, and we don't need that, at least not yet. 2) Keep the background simple--plain white background is great and easy to read when black type is applied over it (that's why newspapers used the combo). Too many designers, given the ample choices we have today, try to get too fancy with colors and designs, and that sometimes gets in the way of readability. My two cents worth is probably worth just that, but as a former newspaper and magazine designer/writer/editor I thought I'd contribute something. Good luck, Fondly, Bonnie

I'm sure Roy writes with a gentle smile, but if Andrea had written in her first paragraph "those who *believe* they have Huguenot ancestors .......and are *searching * for information which.....", would he be content? Clive ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Day <royday@dial.pipex.com> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [HWE] Submitting US/CAN Huguenot names > This looks to be an interesting exercise but may I enquire how they can be > considered Huguenots if their place of birth together with their religion is > still to be established? > > Roy Day > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> > To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 7:46 PM > Subject: [HWE] Submitting US/CAN Huguenot names > > > | Hello -- this message is directed specifically at those of you who > | have Huguenot ancestors who have been documented in US or Canadian > | locations but who have *no information* which traces them back to > | European, UK or Irish locations. > | I believe I have thought of a way to include the names of these > | ancestors on our website surnames list (see my three previous posts on > | this subject today). > | If your research falls into the category I've mentioned, please > | contact me BUT ***off list please***! Then we'll see if we can work > | out a solution. Thanks. Andrea > | > | > | > | ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > | Have you explored The Huguenot Ring? Access it at: > | http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring/htm > | Lots of interesting links and information! > | > | ============================== > | Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > | your heritage! > | http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > | > > ______________________________

I did earlier indicate that I possessed certain Protestant records and amongst them is a transcript of the following temples which is published by the Department de Maine-et-Loire. 1. Angers-Sorges 2. Bauge-Beaufort 3. Saumur They cover the period from around 1600 to 1700. Whilst they are not easy to search I am prepared to carry out a limited number should anybody be able to confirm a genuine connection with one or more of these temples. Roy Day.