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    1. [HWE] SURNAME LIST
    2. Ron & Shirley Baker
    3. Please add if you haven't already: BALLE: Abt 1723 Tulle France DAUMENY: at least 1742 Quebec (LaFonderie's mother) MOITIER/MOQUIER DIT LAFONDERIE: 1742 Quebec OLIGNY: 1723 Tulle France>Quebec>WI>MD There are others but I guess I'm confused and don't know if I should add them. They are: BEULOIN: at least 1832 Quebec (Raymond's mother) CAILLE: at least 1814 Quebec (Riel's mother) DAVIGNON: at least 1772 Quebec (Gabouriau's mother) FORTIER: at least 1832 Quebec (Raymond's mother) GABOURIAU DIT LAPALME: 1772 Quebec RAYMOND: 1832 Quebec>WI RIEL: 1814 Quebec TOULOUSE: at least 1832 Quebec (Raymond's father) Andrea, I hope I did this right. Please, Please forgive me if I didn't and please don't take me off the list. Hopefully someday I will get the hang of "lists!" Shirley OLIGNEY BAKER Waco, TX

    11/17/2000 10:13:22
    1. [HWE] Further appeal for website surnames
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Listers -- If you would like your names added to the surnames list on our website, and did not already submitted them after my previous appeal on 29 October, I am asking you to do so now. We have about 280 subscribers on the list at the moment and I know that not everyone has submitted names. Remember, the website surnames list does *not* have to contain *only* names which are known to be Huguenot in origin. You could submit *unproven* ones as well. If you want to contribute some surnames, please do so *on the list* and in the format requested on 29 Oct, ie. as follows: SURNAME: date & location > further dates and locations. Include the country. And in your replies to this message, please remeber the following important procedures: 1) *change* the subject line so it is specifically about your own submission (ie, don't use the same one I have here) 2) please *delete* all unnecessary words at the end of your own message (ie. do not include all of this message in your reply). Thanks. Andrea

    11/17/2000 07:25:31
    1. [HWE] Fw: {not a subscriber} 3rd International Huguenot Conference
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Fellow listers -- I am passing on the following information which was sent to me by someone who is not a subscriber to this list. It's about the third International Huguenot Conference which will be held in Sept 2002 in South Africa. I was surprised to learn from this info that the second such conference was held earlier this year in London. This is the first I'd heard of it. Does anyone on the list have info about the London conference? eg. what topics were discussed, are they available to share, etc? Please post to the list if you know anything about it. You can visit the website for the Huguenot Foundation of South Africa at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/index.html where you will find details of the Huguenot Society, the Huguenot Museum and the Huguenot Monument of SA. Hope this is of interest. Andrea (Scroll down to see attached message below) -----Original Message----- From: HCV <HCV@ADM.SUN.AC.ZA> To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: November 17, 2000 5:33 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} 3rd International Huguenot Conference INTERNATIONAL HUGUENOT CONFERENCE 2002 PRELIMINARY ANNOUNCEMENT Dear Friends It gives me great pleasure to inform you that the next International Huguenot Conference will take place at Stellenbosch and Franschhoek (the French Corner) in South Africa from 25-27 September 2002. This follows the first Conference in Charleston (1998) and the second in London earlier this year. The theme of the Conference will be: THE HUGUENOTS - ORIGINS, SETTLEMENT AND INFLUENCE. The theme is formulated in this way to give as wide a scope as possible for Huguenot & Walloon descendants and researchers to propose papers and posters. Proposals for papers and posters are invited to reach us before May, 31 2001. It will be appreciated if we can hear from you even before the end of May 2001. We would also like to invite members of Huguenot Societies in all countries and any other persons interested to attend the conference either as individuals or as organised groups. Accommodation is available in guesthouses and hotels. In a next circular we will let you have some more detailed information on accomodation/conference fees/pre and post conference tours etc. The conference will be hosted by the Huguenot Foundation of SA in collaboration with the University of Stellenbosch and will take place at Stellenbosch and Franschhoek. The headquarters of the South African Huguenot Foundation, the Huguenot Museum and the Huguenot Monument are situated at Franschhoek. During the conference a tour of the areas where the Huguenots settled will be undertaken. Wine cellars on original Huguenot farms will be visited. The conference will coincide with the Stellenbosch Music festival and it is anticipated that the Music Prize Competition of the Huguenot Foundation of SA will also then take place. We are trying to arrange translation facilities into and from French, English and German so that no one should feel excluded or at a disadvantage in communicating. We look forward to hear from you as soon as possible and to welcome you at the South African Conference. You can respond to the above e-mail address or to The International Huguenot Conference 2002, c/o Dept. of Ecclesiology, 171 Dorp Street, 7600 Stellenbosch, Republic of South Africa. Please take note that the conference will take place during springtime in South Africa. Please let us know of any other persons that you know of who should come on our e-mail or ordinary mailing list. You can also find information at: http://www.geocities.com/hugenoteblad/conference With kind regards PROF P COERTZEN CHAIRMAN: SA HUGUENOT FOUNDATION Replies to: pc@maties.sun.ac.za END

    11/17/2000 07:01:02
    1. [HWE] Huguenot List
    2. Jerry Dally
    3. Andreas: Suggest www.karolus.org/anglais/protest.htm on the list of Huguenot Lists. Tom Dally

    11/16/2000 11:35:10
    1. [HWE] Corrections re: Huguenot Links
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Listers -- My apologies. I made a couple of errors with the URLs of the Huguenot sites I posted about earlier today (16 Nov). Thanks to Helen for pointing this out to me. The correct URL for The Huguenot Ring is at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring.htm. (I mistakenly put a / in front of "htm" in my first post. It should be a dot(.) And if you tried the Olive Tree and it didn't work either, it's because I put "www" both before *and* after http://. The correct URL is as follows: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/. Hope this hasn't caused too much frustration. Andrea

    11/16/2000 10:13:30
    1. [HWE] Huguenot Links for our list website
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Hello Listers -- still on the subject of our list website...... I first want to say that I received no input at all from anyone as a result of my 10 Nov. appeal for addtional websites on these two topics: 1) Who were the Huguenots and Walloons? and 2) Huguenot History and Timelines Are you sure there aren't more out there, aside from those that I listed at that time?? If so, please post the info to the list (she said hopefully <g>). Second, I would like suggestions from you as to what Huguenot websites can be included on our own list site, in the section titled Huguenot Links and Sites. Of course, major ones will be there such as the section on both Cyndi's List (www.cyndislist.org) and on The Olive Tree Genealogy (www.http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/). As well as The Huguenot Ring at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring/htm. Please post to the list any other specifically Huguenot sites which you are aware of (she added, still hopefully <g>) . This can be just a section of Huguenot info on a larger non-Hug site. I know there are some sites out there, for example, about specific geographical areas eg. Sandtoft, Lincolnshire. The areas mentioned here should be as European-centred (as opposed to US-centred) as possible, please. Thanks for your help and input. Regards to all, Andrea (P.S. When replying to this post, please do not include the contents of this post as part of your reply. Delete it before sending your message. Again, thanks.)

    11/16/2000 04:31:08
    1. [HWE] Request for Subscriber Websites
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Fellow Listers -- Our list website (which is getting ever closer......any day now <g>) will have a section called Subscriber Sites. Anyone on the list who has a personal (genealogy) website can have it listed there. So....I am appealing here and now to anyone who has such a website -- with Huguenot or Walloon ancestry on it, of course -- to please submit info about it *to the list* and I will then add it to the website info. Please include, along with the URL, a short description (a few sentences) of the site, with pertinent details, including SURNAMES. This is another opportunity for you to get your information "out there" where people will see it! Thanks. Andrea

    11/16/2000 03:30:39
    1. [HWE] Yet another <snip> reminder!
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Dear fellow listers (**very important info follows**) -- This is a very heartfelt and anguished plea from your list concierge on a subject which I posted about on 29 Oct and again on 30 Oct! However, it continues to keep happening! What's causing me the anguish?? It's this. Please, please, please.......please??.......*do not* include entire posts written by another lister on the end of your own posts to the list! Please <snip> off (that is, delete!!) this information! Before you send *any* post to the list, scroll down below your own message to see if there is another post tacked on the end. If there is, please get rid of it before sending your message! Sometimes I've noticed that the added post has nothing whatever to do with the new message being posted. And sometimes a domino effect can also start happening, when more than one lister sends a reply to the list on the same subject and neglects to delete all the unnecessary stuff at the end. The result here is not just one uneccesary post which has not been deleted, but several. All of this is unnecessary duplication of information coming back to the list yet again -- and, it will be there in the list archives, wasting space and also duplicating info which is already there. If you are replying to another post, delete all of it except a small portion of it or, better yet, include a short statementof your own, letting others know what you are replying to (date, name, topic). In either case, put the <snip> or your own statement at the *beginning* of your own post. Keeping the <snip> at the end isn't very helpful. Anyone who's interested can then go into the archives to view that original post. Thank you for reading my tirade. I apologize for all the exclamation marks. Regards to all, Andrea (in my role as list concierge) PS. Maybe it's time for a small cognac to calm me down <g>. Except it's only ten thirty in the morning here. A cup of coffee will have to do.

    11/14/2000 03:41:41
    1. [HWE] HOBLERS, CLAUDONS (Morges, Switzerland)
    2. Liisa Hobler
    3. Is anyone able to assist me with information on the Hobler and Claudon families who are believed to be Huguenot, and who fled from religious persecution to Morges on Lake Geneva in Switzerland - date unknown. From Morges they went to London about 1760. They were watch and clock makers. I would like to know who the family members were and when they left France, as well as the part of France they came from. Liisa Hobler _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

    11/14/2000 12:42:49
    1. [HWE] HOBLERS
    2. Liisa Hobler
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    11/14/2000 12:37:42
    1. [HWE] HOBLERS
    2. Liisa Hobler
    3. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

    11/14/2000 12:37:38
    1. Re: [HWE] Musty Dusty HugWalls Info Challenge
    2. Kaye Cole
    3. I thought I'd share this TRULY IRISH Hug approach to history from my own FH in response to Andrea's challenge. I'm descended from the Germaine family of Co. Carlow/ Kildare/ Wicklow, who seem to have got there from the Netherlands via England some time after 1700. At any rate, here's the story. First story: (paraphrased): The Freeman's Journal ? Jan. 1886 ? ( undated printed extract sent to me) carried an Obit for Philip Germaine d. Jan 4 aged 93 at Dublin, late of Lisnevagh Manor, (Rathvilley) Co. Carlow. He is described as a very prominent actor in the tithe war.Under the *despotism* of British administration Philip Germaine 50 years ago was dragged down from a substantial farmer to a pauper. His farm stock was seized for tithes, he was turned adrift from a few hundred acres of land and the houses he had built were seized without compensation. (Then follows much abuse heaped by the writer on the British Govt). The story goes on to relate what appears to be a recent interview with Mr Germaine shortly before his death at age 93, in which he told of his history and how in 1830 he was a wealthy farmer living on land his family had occupied (rented) in Lisnevagh for at least a century.When the Tithe war (against payment for the maintenance of an alien, i.e. Church of Ireland, ecclestiastical system), extended into Co. Carlow, Mr Germaine was said to be the local leader. He went on *with great clearness*(!) to tell the reporter how his cattle were seized in 1832 and taken to the pound to be sold to pay the tithe of L1,100. He said it was like a rebellion, with the Army all through the country and immense crowds at the seizure and the sale. However no-one would bid for the cattle which had to be driven back to his lands. *Fully 3000 people assembled on my farms and cheered and blew horns, and the mountains were covered with bonfires to give me encouragement*. However shortly after this the landlord evicted him from his farms as he had no lease, and he was never compensated for the improvements he had made. (I must say I felt quite proud to be descended from this rebellious family!) The second story is from a printed article by P.J. Kavanagh, M.A., entitled * Rathvilly's Contribution to the Tithe War*, unfortunately unsourced, and given to me in Ireland in 1990. This article is well documented, with references to newspapers and a range of magistrates' and police reports, and therefore has decent credibility despite its lack of provenance. The article reports on various incidents involving police and tithe resisters in 1836 and 1837 in Carlow, and refers to an incident in August 1837 where cattle belonging to Thomas Germaine of Tobinstown had been seized for tithes owing. Apparently seven bailiffs who had been placed in charge of the seized propery were turned out of the house and threatened with death by a crowd of 200. *The people took Germaine's property for safekeeping...even though he is a man not universally liked in this neighbourhood...* There seems to have been much blowing of horns to gather the crowds on this occasion too. Are these two separate stories about different incidents, involving different members of the Germaine family ? Or are they the same story remembered/ reported differently ? Has Philip (b.1792/3) given us a much embellished version of the original Thomas story, since he outlived his (?) elder brotherThomas (b.c.1791/2, d. 1872) and could claim his fame ? My somewhat hypothetical family tree has more people named Thomas Germaine than you could cock a snook at, so its pretty much guesswork whether this is the right one. I'm Irish enough not to have researched this any further, but merely laughed at them both. Maybe the time has come to dig a bit deeper... Any ideas ? Regards, Kaye Cole in Melbourne Andrea Vogel wrote: > Fellow listers -- > Here's a challenge to you all. It was inspired by the post from > John <johntev@ozemail.com.au> on 23 Oct with subject line: Some > Huguenot Anecdotes. > As you may remember, John (a self-confessed "list fringe dweller") > found some very interesting Huguenot tidbits at his local library > during their recent clean-up. Then he decided to pass this info on to > the list because he thought it would be of interest. This info had > nothing to do with his own research or family lines. > > Soooo......I've decided to challenge you, one and all, in what > I've called the Musty Dusty HugsWalls Info Challenge. I hope fellow > lister, Julia, doesn't mind that I've borrowed the "HugWalls" from her > post on 3 Oct. > Here's the challenge. Can you find and post an interesting bit of > info -- it needn't be long or detailed -- re: Huguenots and/or > Walloons and share it with the rest of us? > Before we begin, please note -- > 1) The info must be relevent to Huguenots and/or Walloons in > continental Europe, and/or the UK and/or Ireland. I'm sure many of you > out there have U.S. info but this would be inappropriate on this list. > See previous posts on this topic in list archives, keywords: > geographical focus. > If you find that you have info only for U.S. locations, then > wouldn't this be a great time to make a foray into areas beyond U.S. > borders? It's impossible to research European ancestors without doing > this. > 2) When passing on info from a published source, please be aware of > copyright. You can quote some of the contents in their entirety and > also paraphrase other sections in your own words. But to quote all or > almost all, word-for-word, would be a copyright violation. > If you are passing on a post from another list, be aware that > copyright also applies here. You must get the author's permission to > do so. > 3) Think carefully about your subject line before sending your post. > > Ready? Set? Go!! > Search your book shelves! > Visit your local library or archives! > Dust off that trunk in the attic! > Sift through your accumulation of papers! > See if your local FHC holds any information! > Be alert for book sales! > Trawl through the archives of other lists! > Haunt used book stores! > Investigate the far reaches of the Net! > Ask friends for sources! > Pounce on piles of musty papers at garage sales/boot sales! > Any other sources you can think of!? > > Remember, this does not necessarily have to be about your own > family research. Don't forget to tell us where you found the > information. > There is no time limit to this Challenge so you can send in posts > on this topic whenever you find something interesting, starting now > and at any time into the future. (But don't wait too long <g>. Seize > the day!). > Eagerly awaiting reponses to this Challenge, Andrea > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Under construction: web page for Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list! > Information, links, surnames! Got ideas and contributions? > Please post to the list or to list admin, Andrea (andreav@island.net) > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/search > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

    11/13/2000 12:13:51
    1. [HWE] FW: surname GENOT, <1800, Netherlands, Belgium and France
    2. Marc Genot
    3. I'm interested if someone can tell me more about the surname GENOT. So far my research goes back till 1749, in this year Pieter Joseph GENOT married Anna GUILLAUME in a place called Erpent in Belgium. I hope someone can tell me more about the surname GENOT. Marc Genot

    11/13/2000 09:25:32
    1. [HWE] Captain John B. DECOU
    2. Janis
    3. While making a list of contents from the "Families" Journals of the Ontario Genealogical Society I came across an article which might be of help to someone researching the DECOU surname. It comes from Volume 37 No. 4 November 1998. "Captain John B. DeCou: Pioneer and Entrepreneur" was written by Robert Collins McBride. Here is an excerpt: "Captain John B. DeCou descended from French Huguenot origins, his family being located in the village of Coux on the west coast of France in the province of Staintonge. Like most Protestant French Huguenots, Captain John B. CeCou's great-great-great grandfather, Leuren des Coux and his wife, Jacquemine, were persecuted for religious reasons and emigrated to a colony at Sandtoft, Lincolnshire, England, in 1630 where the family became members of the Society of Friends (Quakers). Leuren des Coux died in 1664, leaving his estate to his eldest son, Isaac Decow who married Susanne Ashton at the Settle Monthly Meeting in 1667. William Penn's American colonization scheme attracted the younger generations of the time and on 6 Nov. 1685 Isaac Decow purchased 2500 acres of land in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, for 100 pounds, that is still known as the Decou Tract. Isaac and his family sailed from Hull, England on Mar. 8, 1686 on the ship Shields of Stockton..." I have no interest in this surname but thought this and other info from the article might be of help or interest to someone. Cheers. Janis London, Ontario, Canada sooty28@home.com

    11/13/2000 07:55:26
    1. [HWE] Surnames: HOTMAN
    2. luc chaput
    3. HOTMAN: from 1500 Silesia (now Poland), Germany, France to 1800 and beyond *S* Luc

    11/13/2000 06:37:57
    1. [HWE] To the Admin!!
    2. Stig Rådahl
    3. Please redirect this list from var.skola@pi.se to stig@nog.nu Yours Stig Rådahl .......................................................... LouiseinDayton@webtv.net skrev: > My grandfather, William John FEUGARDE was born as William John FUGARD in > Bessbrook, County Armagh, in 1870. His father was John FUGARD and his > mother was Olivia HADDOCK(or HAYDOCK). His parents were married in the > Church of Ireland in 1869, and his grandfather was Robert FUGARD, who > was deceased at the time of the marriage. > Willam John and his younger sister Olivia came to the US in 1890, and he > changed the family name to FEUGARDE at that time. I was always told by > my mother that her father's family were French Huguenots, and that the > name means fire guard in French. My mother also vehemently insisted that > "we are followers of William & Mary of Orange." I was never allowed to > wear green on St. Patrick's day and got pinched every year as a child. > There are only about 80 FUGARDS in the world, so it is an unusual name. > At this time, I have been unable to trace the name any further back than > Robert FUGARD. There are other listings in Counties Armagh & Down, but > the relationship is unknown. They are not listed in the Flax Growers > list or in the tithe records, although one was listed in Co. Down on the > Hearth List in the 1800's. Any suggetions would be appreciated. > Louise > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > To access list archives: go to URL's below for 1)threaded or 2)keyword > 1) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/huguenots-walloons-europe > 2) http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog -- Stig Rådahl Grev Magnigatan 11, 11455 STOCKHOLM tel 08-6672849, FAX 08-6621843 Epost: var.skola@pi.se Arbetet: Vår Skola Förlag AB, Riddargatan 17, 5tr 114 57 STOCKHOLM tel 08-6623124, 6623351 fax 08-6621843

    11/13/2000 03:00:51
    1. [HWE] Taglines -- What are they?
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Listers -- You may never have heard of taglines. I know I hadn't before becoming a list admin. Every list has them, including this one. But you will be able to see them only if you are subscribed in list mode. They don't appear in the digest mode posts. What are they? They are those little messages tacked on the very end of each list post you receive. Maybe you've noticed them, maybe not. Scroll down to the very end of each message -- including this one -- and you'll see them. Although I wrote the taglines, they are added automatically by Rootsweb, which also adds another one of its own after the HWE list tagline. One of them tells you how to unsubscribe, for example. There are nine other taglines. They all appear in rotation. Here's what they say -- Tag 1: Have you explored The Huguenot Ring? Access it at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring/htm Lots of interesting links and information! Tag 2: Be a participating subscriber! Post your surname interests often. Once a month is about right, or more often if you have new details. Address your post to Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L@rootsweb.com Tag 3: To access H-W-E list archives, there are two options: Threaded Archive is at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Keyword Archive at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Tag 4: When posting to the Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list: SURNAMES written in capitals, s'il vous plaît. Also, please specify dates and location, including country. Tag 5: To unsubscribe (if you are in list mode), type and send only the word unsubscribe to: Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L-request@rootsweb.com Tag 6: To unsubscribe (if you are in digest mode), type and send only the word unsubscribe to: Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-D-request@rootsweb.com Tag 7: When posting to the Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list: Your subject line must reflect the content of your message. eg. include topic or surname(s) and/or date and/or location. Tag 8: Have you submitted your surnames for our (future) list web page? To do so will make your names accessible to others on the Web. For more info, contact Andrea, list admin, at andreav@island.net. Tag 9: Under construction: web page for Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list! Information, links, surnames! Got ideas and contributions? Please post to the list or to list admin, Andrea (andreav@island.net) Tag 10: For list guidelines and other important H-W-E list info, read and save the "welcome message" you got when you subscribed. Lost your copy? Contact list admin, Andrea, andreav@island.net, to get a new one. If you're in digest mode, instructions on how to unsubscribe are always included in each digest of posts. To access them, just double-click on the first little envelope. Scroll down past the subject lines of the posts included in that digest. The instructions are at the end. Just a little bit of trivia you may not have known about H-W-E <g>. Regards to all at the start of this new week. Andrea

    11/13/2000 02:51:51
    1. [HWE] Published Annweiler Records
    2. An extract of the Annweiler records 1477-1927 was published by the Rev. Georg Biundo in Germany in 1939. The Rev. Dennis Kastens of St. Louis, MO received permission from the German Government to repirint these 5 volumes in the US in 1996. I have all 5 volumes and will do look ups. Having spent several years "collecting" my family from the LDS microfilms for Annweiler before I acquired these volumes, I found only 2 specific errors/ommissions in my 250 year line. Pinky Palladino

    11/12/2000 06:02:04
    1. [HWE] FEUGARDE/FUGARD
    2. My grandfather, William John FEUGARDE was born as William John FUGARD in Bessbrook, County Armagh, in 1870. His father was John FUGARD and his mother was Olivia HADDOCK(or HAYDOCK). His parents were married in the Church of Ireland in 1869, and his grandfather was Robert FUGARD, who was deceased at the time of the marriage. Willam John and his younger sister Olivia came to the US in 1890, and he changed the family name to FEUGARDE at that time. I was always told by my mother that her father's family were French Huguenots, and that the name means fire guard in French. My mother also vehemently insisted that "we are followers of William & Mary of Orange." I was never allowed to wear green on St. Patrick's day and got pinched every year as a child. There are only about 80 FUGARDS in the world, so it is an unusual name. At this time, I have been unable to trace the name any further back than Robert FUGARD. There are other listings in Counties Armagh & Down, but the relationship is unknown. They are not listed in the Flax Growers list or in the tithe records, although one was listed in Co. Down on the Hearth List in the 1800's. Any suggetions would be appreciated. Louise

    11/12/2000 01:18:56
    1. [HWE] Huguenots in London novel (cont'd)
    2. Andrea Vogel
    3. Listers -- here is another installment from the historical novel "London" by Edward Rutherfurd. This book is not about Huguenots but has some interesting passages in it about them. As I mentioned in my previous post on this topic (3 Nov), this book was published in 1997 by Ballantine, which is a division of Random House. The ISBN is 0-449-00263-2. I have written permission to quote these passages from the Copyright and Permissions Dept., Random House, Inc. 299 Park Ave., New York, NY 10171. As I explained in my 3 Nov post, the topic of Huguenots is introduced into the book through the character of young Eugene DE LA PENISSIÈRE who anglicizes his surname to PENNY. He is a watchmaker and, despite having a good job with "the great London clockmaker TOMPION, who was installing the timepiece in the Royal Observatory", he is homesick for his native France and tells his London friends that he is thinking of returning. He is urged to stay and his friends speculate on why he would want to leave. Excepts from pgs. 797-9 (the year is 1675) -- "'Is it the riots?'......There had been several attacks on Huguenots in the eastern suburb of the city that year.........It was true, of course, that there was always some friction between the 'foreigners' -- which still meant anybody from outside the city -- and the Londoners who feared competition for their skills and jobs..........'It's just a local affair......The Londoners aren't against the Huguenots, I promise you.' But Eugene was shaking his head.......He had been sent to England by his father..........they both agreed what must be done. 'The kings of France have sworn, by the Treaty of Nantes, to allow us to worship freely in perpetuity,' he had told Eugene. 'But the Church of Rome is strong; the king is devout. Go to England therefore. If we are sure we are safe here, you can return. If not, you must prepare a new home for your brothers and sisters there.' But after his last trip back to his family, Eugene had been overcome by a terrible homesickness; and with every month it had grown worse.......'I just want to go home to France. My family has come to no harm there. It cannot be really necessary for me to be here.'" It's interesting to learn here that some, like Eugene, apparently went back and forth between France and England for visits, probably until it was too dangerous to do so. Now we skip ahead to pg. 816-17. The date is ten years later,1685. The setting is France, although the exact location is not specified. Eugene is back in France where he has married and had two children. "The two children were clinging to him, terrified. One of the troopers, still mounted, was shaking nuts from the tree while two others had just trussed up a pig and slit its throat with a sabre. The officer in command of the dragoons looked at Eugene with a cool insolence. 'We shall need all three of your bedrooms.' 'And where are we to sleep?' Eugene's wife asked. 'There is the barn, Madame,' the officer shrugged. He eyed the two little girls. 'Their ages?' 'Not yet seven, Monsieur le Capitaine,' Eugene answered drily. 'I assure you.' If only, he thought, I had never returned. Despite the protection of their cherished old Treaty of Nantes, the Protestant Huguenots had found his most Catholic Majesty less and less tolerant of their religion with every year that passed. Not only had their Calvinist synods been forbidden; their pastors had to pay special taxes and they were forbidden to marry good Catholics. To encourage them to mend their ways, they were offered tax concessions if they would abjure their heresy and return to the Catholic fold, but, more recently, King Louis had introduced a sterner measure. Any Huguenot child over the age of seven could be converted, without their parents' consent. Another year or two, Eugene knew, and his girls would be under pressure. Such things would not have happened if he had stayed in London. His return to France had not been happy. His father had been furious. 'You were to prepare the way for us,' he had reminded Eugene coldly, and for a year refused to speak to him. Only when he had married a Huguenot girl whose father was a shipper at Bordeaux, did the rift begin to heal.......five years ago, the older man had died......Within a year, his father's young widow had converted, left the house, and married a Catholic with a small vineyard. As a result, Eugene had not only his own two little girls to look after, but his unmarried half-sister, who had refused to be a Catholic and accompany her mother. Difficult though life had been for Huguenots, however, it was only in the last four years that King Louis XIV had made it intolerable. His method was simple: he quartered his troops on them. Time and again, Eugene had heard how parties of dragoons had arrived, eaten all the family's stores, broken furniture, even terrorized the Huguenots' wives and daughters. Technically, the French king could still say they were free to worship, but in practice it was a policy of persecution. Many times recently Eugene had wondered whether he should emigrate to England again with his family; yet he was unwilling to leave the area he so loved unless he had to...." That's all for now. I'll quote a few more passages when and if I get permission from Random House. If anyone wants to reply/comment on this post, please *<snip> (ie. delete)* all or almost all of the above before doing so. This was not done with a couple of replies to my earlier post on this topic. As a result of this, we now have the same passages (320+ words) repeated three times, on both the list and in the list archives. Best to all, Andrea

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