Listers -- A further two links are now working on our list website at: http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html. If you are re-visiting this site, please click on Refresh or the equivalent once you've arrived. If you're visiting the site for the first time, there is no need to do this. Then try these links, both in the Beyond the Basics section: Alternate Surnames Lists (near the top of that section) Harrassment and/or Verbal Attacks, etc. (at the end of that section) You may have noticed that a lot of the info on the site is also in our "welcome message". This is just another way to communicate the information and keep in accessible. Regards, everyone. Andrea

Dear Klaus, Carolyn, Peter and Marie, In response to your requests, I have been warned that I would be infringing the copyright if I passed the information from the CD on to you. When I looked at the small print that seems to be the case. So - sorry, but no can do! However I dont think I would be in trouble if I tell you there are lots of BILLETs, no LUCADO(U)s, no Lambert DUPREY (but two others), 1 only FORESTIER and no FORRESTIERs. Better withdraw my offer unless Andrea has any suggestions. John.

Fellow listers -- This is a continuation of my series of postings of surnames from the records of the Threadneedle Street Church (London) tésmoignages. All earlier posts in this series can be accessed through the list archives (Oct & Nov). For an explanation of what the tésmoignages were, see post in the list archives, dated 16 March. The following information includes surnames DEM to DES. Please check the following list even if your surnames of interest do not begin with these letters. You may find them with DE or DES in front of them. However, if you find a surname here which is the same as one in your family, this *does not prove* your Huguenot connection. To have this proof, you must verify the generational links between your particular family members and those individuals named in the tésmoignages. As you can see, I have not named individuals here, only surnames. These records are in Volume 21 of the Quarto series published by the Hug. Soc. of London -- Livre des Tésmoignages de l'Église de Threadneedle Street, 1669-1789 -- and are also on LDS film # 0962137. Some surnames below are followed by a second one in brackets. This means that they are cross-referenced in this source, usually indicating a spouse's surname. Many surnames have several alternate spellings so it's a good idea to check for every possible variant. Hope you find something interesting. If you do, please post to tell us about it. Andrea DE MAGOULAIS, DE MAILLY, DE MALORTIE, DE MANTE, DE MAR, DEMARES, DE MARSEILLE, DE MASSE DE MATHA, DE MAZIERE, DE MAZURE, DE MEDE, DE MEDIS, DE MEIRE, DE MERAY, DE MERE, DE MERSEILLE, DEMERY, DEMONCE, DE MONCEAUX, DE MONS, DE MONSEAU, DE MONSY, DEMONT, DE MONTAUX, DE MONTERBY, DE MOORE, DE MOUCHE, DE MOUSON, DE MOUTIER (DAM), DE MUN, DE NAIS, DENAU, DE NAUR, DENEFUEILLE, DENEN, DENESCHAUD, DE NEU, DE NEUE, DENEUFUEILLE, DE NEUX, DE NEVEU, DENGRADE, DENIAR, DENNIER, DENIOR, DENIS, DE NIUMEGIN, DE NOEL, DE NORNAY, DE NORS, DE NOUELLE, DE NOUVELLE, DENOYER, DENPURÉ, DENU, DE NUN, DE NUNC, DE NUNCQ (BLONDEL), DE NYORT, DE PARIS (DE LA COUR), DE PAULAUDY, DE PAURON, DEPLANCHE, DE PLANCQUES, DE PLANS (PREUOST), DE POULDEREL (BRINCAUD), DE PRIMEROSE, DE PUTRON, DE QUESNE, DE RAFOU, DE RAMEAUX, DERBY, DE REMBURE, DE RENECOURT, DERENOCOURT, DE RENONOCOURT, DE RIBEROLLE, DE RICARD, DE RIEU (LE GRAND), DE RIUARY, DERME, DERNAN, DERNOCOUR, DE ROBBE, DEROBECQ, DE ROBET, DE ROCHEFORT, DEROIN, DE RONNE (ANDUSE), DE RONOCOURT, DE RONSAY, DE ROUBAY, DEROUSSEAU, DE ROUSSIAN, DERUANS, DE RUAUX, DERUMEAUX, DE RUYAUN, DERVEAU, DE SAINT AMANT, DE SAINT LAURIN, DE SAINTLEU, DE SAINT PAUL, DE SAINT QUENTIN (FROMENT), DESAIURE, DE SALLUIER, DE SAMARRE, DE SAMBERT, DESAMBRES, DE SANTHUNS (NEVEU), DE SANTUN, DESASSY, DESATHUNE, DESAUANT, DESAURMEAU, DE SAUVAGE, DESAVAUD, DESBANQ, DESBLEDS, DESBOIS, DESBORDES, DESCAN, DESCARIERE, DESCARIÈRES, DES CARPENTIERS, DESCARRIERES, DESCASAL, DESCAUFOUR, DESCHAMPS, DESCHAREUX, DES CHATEAUX, DESCHAZEAUX, DESCODIN, DESCOMBELS, DES COTES, DE SEDAN, DESEINE, DE SELONCOURT, DE SEMBERG, DE SEMBERGS (GESAER), DESEMBERGUE, DESEMBERT, DES ENGINS, DE SENNE, DE SERRE, DE SERRES, DE SERVAGNES, DES ESSARS, DESESSEAU, DESFEBURE, DES FEUES, DESFEVES, DES FONTAINNE, DES FONTAINNES, DESFUR, DESGARDENS, DESGARDIENS, DESGUMAINS, DESHAY, DES HAYES, DES HAYS, DES JARDIN (GAUGUET), DES JARDINS, DES LANDES, DESLAURIERS, DESLIERS, DES MARAIX, DESMARETS, DES MARES, DESMARS, DESMAZIERE, DES MAZIEUX, DESME, DESMOSTIERS (GENDREAU), DESMOSTIERS, DES MOULINS, DESNOU, DES NOUELLES, DESNOYER, DESNOYERS, DES ORMEAUX, DE SOUCHE, DE SOUCHES, D'ESPAGNE, DESPAIGNE, DES PARLES (LOURDET), DESPEIGNE, DESPI, DESPIE, DESPINON (POURCEAUX, QUESNON), DESPLANCHE, DESPLANCHES, DES PLANK, DESPOMARE, DES POMARS, DESPOMMARE (HERMITE), DESPOMMARES, DESPORT, DESPRATS, DES PRE, DES PRÉS, DESPY, DESQUESNE, DES RAMEAUX, DES RAMES, DESROCHERS, DESRUEAU, DESS, DESSANSEAU, DESSARD, D'ESSE, DESSEL, DESSEN, D'ESTACHES, DESTON, DESTOURNELLE, DESTRA, DESTRIE, DESTRINNE, DES TUILER, DES VALINS, DESVALLIERE, DESVAUT, DES VAUX (MICHEL). END

Fellow listers -- First, I'd like to say thank you for all of you who have sent me comments about the list web site. I will answer all of you personally but please give me a bit of time to do so. For those who've just joined us, our list web site is at http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html. As I told you yesterday, not all of the links are working yet -- in fact, most of them aren't! However, you should be able to successfully access six links in all now. I posted three yesterday (how to subscribe, how to unsubscribe, and how to access the archives, all in The Basics section). Here are three more new ones, all of which should work. Let me know if they don't. They are: *What exactly is a mailing list? (in the Introduction section) *Other Mailing Lists (in Beyond the Basics section) *Huguenot Reading Lists (also in Beyond the Basics) If links do not work for you and you have Internet Explorer on your computer, I suggest clicking on Refresh when you first arrive on the web site. The Refresh button is one of those along the top of your computer screen. And in case anyone is wondering, Refresh replaces an older version of a website with the latest, updated one. So it's a good idea to do this each time you re-visit the site. There must be an equivalent of Refresh in other internet browser programs (eg. Netscape) but I wouldn't know what they are called. If you have one of those other programs, perhaps you could let us know what they are. I would still welcome comments from fellow listers about the website, in general or any portion thereof. Regards to all, Andrea

I have just acquired the Vital Records Index (British Isles) from the LDS Church. If anyone wants me to look up any names I will try and do so. John (in Dorset, UK)

Thanks Luc! Shirley Baker, Waco, TX > Have you ever looked for those Quebec names at > http://www.francogene.com/index.html? Luc

Some members of the list may remember my previous posts about the RABOTEAU family, originally from near Saintes in France, who came to Ireland in the early 1700s. I simply MUST share my good news with you. Last year I found a reference to a useful-sounding book about RABOTEAU family correspondence, written in French, in an on-line experimental catalogue of the Library of Congress (USA). I couldn't locate a copy of this book anywhere in Australia. I found a fellow RABOTEAU researcher in the USA through a Rootsweb listing. He was trying to connect his emigrant ancestor back to Europe. I couldn't help him but suggested that, if he was ever in Washington, he could have a look at this book. He replied that he worked for a Senator and had good access to the Library. He mailed to me last week photocopies from the book which give a detailed and fully referenced genealogy of the family from 1560. Although the Irish RABOTEAUX are not specifically listed, my wife's ancestor is clearly identified in the genealogy, along with a footnote giving quotes from contemporary sources about how she and her sister were exiled for attending a Huguenot gathering in 1729. I need hardly tell you how exciting it has been to find such a wealth of material on this family. It just goes to show that sometimes, when we share the information we find, we can be greatly rewarded! There are, naturally, lots of other families mentioned in this book. My schoolboy French is dreadful but I will pass on details from the book soon, including the index of the Huguenot families. Maybe one day I'll even find where my MURPHY family came from in Ireland! Allan Murphy Sydney, Australia

Hi listers -- I've managed to get three links functioning so far on our web site (which is at http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html, in case you missed my previous message today). Try these links and see if they work for you. they can be selected on the Home Page at the URL above. You may have to first click on Refresh or whatever is similar in your internet browser. The three links which are now working (all in the section titled The Basics) are: How do I subscribe to (join) the list? How do I unsubscribe from (leave) the list? How do I access the list archives? If you successfully get through to the information of these links, scrolling down to the bottom and clicking on Home Page will get you back to......the Home Page (ie. first page). Let me know *off-list please*, if you are successful and/or have comments or if you experienced any problems. Andrea

DEAL, D'AL 1650-1700, FRA > Denton, Kent, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com

Hi Everyone, We are looking at an LDS Pedigree Research File ( CD #8 ) and it's source WDC Gen Web - Descendants of Daniel BONNETT. This shows him born 1658 in Chambons, Mentoulles, Piedmont, Italy. My question is: Does the above location mean anything to anybody? If it is in France, does it mean anything? Alternate birth locations in the WDC Gen Web -( Descendants of Daniel BONNETT b. 1658 France>PA/VA/WV ) include Turin, Italy as well as Fhionque or Thronque in France. Does anyone know where Fhionque and Thronque might have been in France? This is the Daniel BONNETT who was in Morlheim, Germany in 1699 and later moved to Friedrichstal. His wife was Christine COUSINE. Regards, John and Carolyn Johnson

Please add to the list VAN DER KEUR (van der Ceur, le Ceur, de la Coeur) > 1685 in 's Gravenhage (Den Haag), Zuid Holland, Netherlands > 1710 to present in Leiden, Zuid Holland, Netherlands.

Listers-- With some trepidation and with fingers most definitely crossed, I ask you to try this URL which should lead you to the Home Page of our list website: http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html. The word Welcome! should be at the top in large red letters. If you arrive there safe and sound -- let me know if it works!! -- I would appreciate it if you would look over this page and give me feedback *privately* please. I stress that this is the Home Page *only* and -- most important! -- *none* of the links are working as yet. That will come soon. My first step was to get the Home Page *out there* and to get comments from you as to its format. Is it organized clearly? What about the colours and fonts? What about the bold fonts -- did I overdo it? Is it *too busy*? Etc, etc. I've been working and re-working it so often I am sure I don't see it objectively. Awaiting word from anyone who cares to comment. If you would like to put forth any opinions for general discussion, please reply to the list. Otherwise, contact me off-list. Many thanks. Andrea

BRICE c 1650-1750, Kent, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com BEUNE, BUNNE c1620, Pas-de-Calais, FRA clive.bates@btinternet.com BLANCHARD 1600-1700, Pas de Calais, FRA > 1700 Canterbury, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com BOYKIN c1600, Canterbury, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com CHEVALIER c1650, Pas de Calais, FRA clive.bates@btinternet.com DE BUIRE c1600, Pas de Calais, FRA clive.bates@btinternet.com DOSSELAR c1660-1682, Pas de Calais, >1688 NL > 1696 Canterbury, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com DU FOUR c1650, Pas de Calais, FRA clive.bates@btinternet.com ELVEN c1700, NL or ENG > Canterbury, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com FISHER 1550-1700, East Kent, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com GIBBENS, GIBBONS 1600-1700, Margate, Kent, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com

LE HOUCQ c 1670, Pas de Calais, FRA clive.bates@btinternet.com LE DOUX c 1650, Pas de Calais, FRA clive.bates@btinternet.com MORILLIAN c1650, Pas de Calais, FRA clive.bates@btinternet.com PICARD 1550-1750, FRA > Canterbury, ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com RAIRE c 1650, Pas de Calais, FRA clive.bates@btinternet.com TEVELEIN, TEVOLAIN, TEULIN, TUELAIN, TIVELIEN, TIVELAINE, 1500-1700, FRA > ENG clive.bates@btinternet.com

Dear listers -- Last night, while doing a web search for Huguenot information, I came across an absolutely wonderful site which includes, among many other things, information about DELAFORCE families of France and London, with branches who went to the U.S., Canada and Australia. There are related surnames mentioned as well. This is on the personal website of a man named Ken Baldry who lives in London, ENG. The URL is: http://art-science.com/Ken/Genealogy/index.htm. On the first page, Mr. Baldry says about himself -- "Ken is not a genealogy freak but has quite a lot of information, which may be of value to people seeking their own antecedents......." That is a vast understatement. There is a huge amount of information on this website. I am in awe of it, immersed as I am at the moment with our list website. Of the most interest, of course, is the Huguenot information on the site. Mr. Baldry's mother was a DELAFORCE and he has included, in what he calls "an auxilliary site", a lot of information about this family. Most of it was apparently done by a distant cousin, Patrick DELAFORCE. For example, Mr. Baldry has scanned all twenty-three chapters of a book written by Patrick DELAFORCE called "Family History Research -- The French Connection" (now out of print). To view the Table of Contents of this book go to: http://art-science.com/Ken/Genealogy/Patrick/Index.htm. All of the chapters in this book look fascinating. Some of them are -- The Delaforces in 17th Century London (Chapter 8) The Silkweavers of London (Chapter 10. Includes two family trees) The 16th century Huguenot families in London - first arrivals (Chapter 11) The London Churches and the Threadneedle Street Capers (Chapter 12) The Guisne' Delaforces (Chapter 13) Additional chapters are about families in the occupations of port wine shippers, fish mongers and pawn brokers. There are also separate chapters on branches of the family who went to the U.S., to Canada, and to Australia (includes family trees). The first chapter, Genealogical Sources in the UK, may be of general help to anyone researching Huguenots in England. Note that the name DELAFORCE is spelled quite a few different ways on this site. To name just a few: DELFORCE, DULLFORCE, FORCE, FOSE, etc. I hope you enjoy this site as much as I did. Andrea

DE LA PRYME 1640 Ypres, Flanders, FRA>1640-1700 Yorkshire, ENG>1700-1780 IOM>1740-1800 VA, USA haroldmitchell@att.net

BLANCHARD 1500-1600 FRA > 1600's HAM, ENG > 1639 MA, USA fab@klink.net

Hello Listers, I spotted the following two microfiches relating to Huguenots in the catalogue of The Family History Shop, 24d Magdalen Street, Norwich NR3 1HU, UK Website:- http://www.jenlibrary.u-net.com Maybe they may be useful to someone? Huguenot Exiles from France in the reign of Louis XIV - analysis, indexes, memorials etc. Approx 5,000 names Order Ref. No. 147 Price £6.00. Huguenot Exiles from Europe in England 1618 - 1688. Approx. 4,000 names. Ref. Order No. 148 Price £5.00 Postage in UK and E.U. free. Add £1 if overseas. I am a prize lurker, but so much enjoy reading all the wonderful information. Keep up the good work Andrea. This must be the BEST list !! All the best, Sally [in Cornwall, UK]

Hello, fellow listers -- For those of you researching in the Netherlands, the following website might be helpful. It is not a genealogical site but it has info about history, archives (municipal, regional & state), museums, libraries, etc. in the Netherlands. The site is called the NL-menu Archives. It's maintained by the National Library of the Netherlands (Koninklijke Bibliotheek) and its aim is the "registration and categorization of Internet information services.....by Dutch organizations....primarily focused on....higher educational and research institutes". The URL is: http://www.nl-menu/nlmenu.eng/nlinfo.html. The site has two language choices: Dutch and English. There are some links to other sites. One which caught my eye was National Archives Around the World at http://www.archiefnet.nl/indexuk.htm. Hope this is of interest to someone out there. Perhaps we'll hear from one or two of you who are researching in the Netherlands.......(hope springs eternal <g>). Andrea

Have you ever looked for those Quebec names at http://www.francogene.com/index.html? Luc > > >