Dr. Edward MacLysaght in his book "Surnames of Ireland" says: JOYNT, a Huguenot name (Fr. le joint) slim, graceful. Formerly well-known in both Cos. Limerick and Mayo. Family lore also says we are of Huguenot origin, descended from William Joynt, Sheriff of Limerick c. 1659. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmlabath/joynt7.htm I have not yet found proof of my Joynt/Joint family being of Huguenot origin; however, in the pursuit of proof I have accumulated various documents and I have transcribed the following: The Irish Pensioners of William III's Huguenot Regiments, 1702. >From Huguenot Society of London Proceedings, Vol. 6, No. 3, Nov. 1899 1. Dering's Covering Report 2. The Abstract ABSTRACT OF THE EXAMINATION OF THE FRENCH PENSIONERS NOW ON THE CIVIL LIST OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF IRELAND To be found at: http://home.att.net/~cmlabath/huguenotpensioners.htm Cathy Joynt Labath Researching Joynt/Joint anytime,anywhere. Joynt/Joint Family Chronicles http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmlabath/joynt.htm A Little Bit of Ireland http://home.att.net/~labaths/

Listers -- My apologies but I cannot include first names on the website Surnames List. A format like that would quickly become too cumbersome, complicated and lengthy. If you will have a look at the format on the website, it includes surnames only. Therefore, I would appreciate it if you could send in only surnames. Thanks. Some other points about submitting surnames -- * must include some mention of European locations, however general, to fit in with the geographical focus of this list * US locations should include only the state (no city, county, etc); again the reason for omitting this info is length and simplicity. * please use abbreviations for countries (these are on the website at the top of the Surnames List) Thanks to all for your cooperation. Nice to see some new surnames being posted. Andrea (For those who don't already know, the HWE Surnames List is in the Beyond the Basics section of the list website at http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html.)

Hi Andrea and all here goes mine.. AGEE..Nantes France >Mankin VA abt 1700s de PARMENTIER..England prior to 1588>Roxbury, Mass. USA before 1640 PRESNELL..France>Eng. prior to 1588> VA. prior to 1635 GUERIN--GUERRANT...Saintonge.St Nazaire France>Manakin VA. abt 1700 Daniel son of Henri TRABUE..Montaubon, Guyenne France> Holland>Manakin VA abt 1700. L'ORANGE...Municipality of Orange n of Avignon,France>Manakin VA. after 1674 PERROW...France> Manakin early 1700s His name was Charles I haven't did alot of research on these prior to USA so if I connect to anyone yell...Marie MARIE WORLEY -HOWERY List Mom Huguenot,May,NeFronti,Guerrant, Harshman,Hardwick,Melungeon-Kin, and MOKSMelungeon@egrouops.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:42 PM Subject: [HWE] Names on English Denization Records, 1693 > Listers -- > > If you think you may have had ancestors naturalized in England in 1693, > you may want to check out a list of names (unfortunately not alphabetical) > which is posted on the Genealogy Quest website at -- > http://www.genealogy-quest.com/collections/frenat.ntml. > The heading there is English Denization Records -- "Warrant for the > denization of the following French Protestants" (denization was a form of > naturalization). > The original source of this information is cited as State Papers held by > the Public Record Office (PRO) in London. > > I am not familiar with Genealogy Quest but it seems to me to be offering > at least some of its services for a fee, stating that it has "Professional > Genealogists working for you". I noticed that there was a "free newsletter" > offer, though. I don't think there's any other Huguenot info on the site, > aside from the list mentioned above. > > If you find names you recognize in this source, I hope you will post to > share this with the rest of us. Good luck. Andrea > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Have you explored The Huguenot Ring? Access it at: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring.htm > Lots of interesting links and information! > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Listers -- If you think you may have had ancestors naturalized in England in 1693, you may want to check out a list of names (unfortunately not alphabetical) which is posted on the Genealogy Quest website at -- http://www.genealogy-quest.com/collections/frenat.ntml. The heading there is English Denization Records -- "Warrant for the denization of the following French Protestants" (denization was a form of naturalization). The original source of this information is cited as State Papers held by the Public Record Office (PRO) in London. I am not familiar with Genealogy Quest but it seems to me to be offering at least some of its services for a fee, stating that it has "Professional Genealogists working for you". I noticed that there was a "free newsletter" offer, though. I don't think there's any other Huguenot info on the site, aside from the list mentioned above. If you find names you recognize in this source, I hope you will post to share this with the rest of us. Good luck. Andrea

LE TOUZEL / LE TOUZEY: c 1500-1600s Normandy, FRA>1700-1850 Jersey, CI>1860 Gaspé, CAN. tshill@rmi.net

They were using the correct spelling...but....they weren't using all CAPS...perhaps that is the problem ?? Andrea Vogel wrote: > Listers -- here's another post which I am forwarding on behalf of one of > our subscribers because, for reasons unknown to me at present, it isn't > getting to the list even though, as far as I can determine, all correct > procedures have been followed. Louise posted a previous message a couple of > days ago with no problems. This gets curiouser and curiouser. Andrea > > -----Original Message----- > From: EN2GEN@aol.com <EN2GEN@aol.com> > To: Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L@rootsweb.com > <Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: February 9, 2001 10:22 PM > Subject: Add surnames to list > > >Please add the following surnames to the list: > > > >DURRANT: 1750-1850, Bethnal Green, ENG > >LUTEN : 1775-1825, Bethnal Green, ENG > > > > Louise > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Have you submitted your surnames for our list web site? > To do so will make your names accessible to others on the Web. > For more info, contact Andrea, list admin, at andreav@island.net. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Listers -- here's another post which I am forwarding on behalf of one of our subscribers because, for reasons unknown to me at present, it isn't getting to the list even though, as far as I can determine, all correct procedures have been followed. Louise posted a previous message a couple of days ago with no problems. This gets curiouser and curiouser. Andrea -----Original Message----- From: EN2GEN@aol.com <EN2GEN@aol.com> To: Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L@rootsweb.com <Huguenots-Walloons-Europe-L@rootsweb.com> Date: February 9, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: Add surnames to list >Please add the following surnames to the list: > >DURRANT: 1750-1850, Bethnal Green, ENG >LUTEN : 1775-1825, Bethnal Green, ENG > > Louise

Hello, listers -- I am forwarding the following post to the list. It's from one of our subscribers but, for some reason which I can't figure out, it is not getting to the list even though Don has tried sending it twice and he is using the correct address. Andrea -----Original Message----- From: Basinger <basinger@burgoyne.com> To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: February 9, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: Additions to the list >Please add these surnames to the list: >ALLEGRE, ALLEGREE, ALLAIGRE: 1685, Lyon, FR >1709, London, UK >basinger@burgoyne.com >Thank you. Don >

Well Andrea and all, I can't add my name to your list because this is just all hearsay. But I am interested in the list for a few reasons. I am "doing me family tree" and my mother's maiden name was POVALL which I have so far traced back to 1800 in Cheshire. My grandfather (her dad) always maintained the name was French and I have so far not found it in any English Surname books. I have been corresponding with another lady on the Internet with the same surname interest and she maintains her mother says the name is Belgian and "they were silk-weavers" (or was it cloth-weavers?). At any rate I am just interested to know if anybody on this list has heard of this surname or come across it in their research. As you can see I probably have no "right" to be on this list, but just thought if I lurked for a while I might see some mention of the name. Any help on the origins of the surname POVALL gratefully received, though of course I do know that the answer is to check back myself through primary records, but of course we could all do with a bit of help in this obsession of ours!! Kind Regards Barbara in hot Sydney via rainy Liverpool, England

Hi all, At 03:37 PM 2/2/01 -0500, The Curran's wrote: >Pierre Noue sailed on the ship "De Bonte Koe," 16 April 1663 with his wife >Marguerite Dumont, a child and his sister. snip >Ref: > Holland Soc. Yearbook, 1902 snip > Would like to learn more facts about the Noe line. My line follows down >through the Sutton's. The "passenger list" referred to above also says that "Pierre Niu" is from "Walslant". That would be "Walloon Land." So, I would assume this would be the area that is now NE France and maybe part of Belgium. On the same ship were several other families from Walslant, Flanders, and Picardy. I believe the ship sailed from Amsterdam. A good place to start might be the Walloon Index, which I think has been discussed here before. It is available on microfilm from the LDS. A book which provides a good "how to" guide for researching the ancestors of people like this is _New Netherland Roots_ by Gwenn Epperson. It is widely available from the usual genealogical book sellers. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

GROMARREN/Gromarin/Marren, Gilly, 1660, Henrico Cty Va La Grange, Catherine, 1765, ?Somerset Cty, NJ married Isaac Reynearson

Myths and legends say that the Gambrelle's were Huguenots, they fled through Holland, to England and N. Ireland, and from there came to Virginia, USA. Contact with a Gambrelle in Paris, France, says the legend in his family is that they came from Ireland. The name has been anglicized to the point of frustration - Gambrell, Gambrel, Gambrill, Gambrall, Gambill, Gamball, Gambel, and Gamble, and I sometimes wonder about Gumbell. The name Gambrel is found in Maryland USA from about 1650 on, and then wanders into Virginia, North and South Carolina, and from there into pretty well all the states. I have written to the Dutch site about Huguenots, twice, but received no reply. The letter "G" in Dutch is pronounced as an "H", so the name would be spelled Gambrell, but pronounced "Hambrell". I would appreciate any leads. Thank you Muriel Gambrel, Winnipeg, Canada

I am searching for the origins of the POCKAT / POKAT / PAUCHERT / etc. name. The following information is available: Ernst POCKAT (b. 3 May 1826 unknown location; d. 7 Oct 1892 WI, USA)married Wilhelmine/a FRITZ (b.2 Nov. 1826 Selchow, Prussia; d.26 Jan 1826 WI, USA) reportedly in Selchow, Greifenhagen, Pommern, Prussia in January 1849. They had two children in Prussia: Friedrick (William) POCKAT (5 Dec 1849) and August POCKAT (16 Sept 1852). Either on their way to America in 1854/1855, or before, or at arrival they had my gg grandfather, Julius POCKAT (b.17 Oct 1854/55; d. 30 Jan 1935, WI USA). Several other children were born in Wisconsin after their arrival: Ferdinand, John, Emil, William, Mary, Amelia, Frank and perhaps a couple more. If anyone has any ideas on this family name / line I would love to hear from you! Nicole

Three Hundred Years of Maryland Gambrills by Bowerman, Mary & Alice Moore 1973 You might try to find the above, it may have some leads. Ed Rockstein Dr. Edward D. Rockstein Columbia, MD

Please add these to the surnames list. Thanks! SALE: 1719 Wilhelmsdorf, Bayern, GER> 1760-1872 Erlangen, Bayern, GER AVIENY: 1719 Wilhelmsdorf, Bayern, GER VIELZEUF: 1767 Erlangen, Bayern, GER DENIS: 1822 Erlangem Bayern, GER HORNIG: 1767 Erlangen, Bayern, GER

Dear Listers, My names: Francis BARTEAU (Bartoo/Barto/Barton), b 1630 Paris, France Jean BODINE (Bodin/Boudoin), b 9 May 1645 Medis Saintogne, France Francois BRIDON, b 1635 Rye, Sussex, England? family from Port-des-Barques, Saintogne, France Deacon Robert HINSDALE, b 1617 Dedham, Essex, England, family from Loos, Liege, Belgium Jacques Largelliere (Lar Reseleur), b bef 1645 Artois, France member Flatbush Reformed Church transferred to the French Congregation of Staten Island Joris Jansen RAPALIE (Rapalje/Rappalye/ Raperlier/ Rapareillet/ Raparellet), b 28 Apr 1623/4 Valenciennes, France, Bapt St. Nichols Reformed Church Catalyntje TRICO, b 1625, Pris, Namur, Belgium, married Joris Rapalje at Walloon Church, Amsterdam 1623 also Luubert ALBERTZ, Pierre BILLIOU, Andries LUYCASEN, Scyntie CORNELISE, Gerret DORLANDT, Tryntje HENDRICKSE, Anneke, JANS, Roeloff JANSEN, Barent SWAIM, Maria GREMJON and more later Ed Rockstein Columbia, MD

Fellow Listers -- If you have not done so already, I would like to invite you to post your surnames to the list so that they can be added to the HWE Surnames List on our website (http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html). You will find the Surnames List in the Beyond the Basics section. These surnames *do not* have to be proven to be Huguenot/Walloon in origin in order to be added. The only pre-requisite is that you must be a subscriber to HWE list. Since we have had about 35 new subscribers in the last month, I thought some of the newcomers might like to send in their names. And, of course, all you "oldies" who may have been lurking for a while are invited to join in too <g>. Since our website is now included on several search engines as well as on Cyndi's List and also on John Fuller's site (Genealogy Resources on the Internet), this is a great opportunity to get your surnames out there for people to find and, hopefully, lead to new information for you. If you would like some surnames added, I ask you to submit them in the following manner -- 1) post your request to the list (not to me privately) 2) arrange your surnames and details about them (dates, locations) in the format you see for those surnames which are already on the HWE Surnames List, ie. -- SURNAME: date, location > date, location, etc. 3) have a subject line which indicates you are making a request to add surnames to the Surnames List 4) *please do not* include this post of mine at the end of your own request post. Delete it before sending in your request. And while you are sending in surnames -- and if you have not done so already -- please consider adding them to another Surnames List which has been set up by the Australian Family Tree Connections magazine. You will find information about this Surnames List on the website -- it's also in the Beyond the Basics section under the title Alternate Surnames Lists. However, please note that the requirement for adding names to the AFTC Surnames List is that you must be personally convinced, or have proof, that the names you are submitting have Huguenot origins. I hope to see a good response to this post. The number of subscribers on HWE keeps climbing steadily but the number of posts stays about the same. In other words -- c'mon all you shy ones out there, let's hear from you!! Andrea

I am looking for the antecedents of Rachel GELTON who married Jacques COSSART Sr., their son Jacques COSSART Jr. b-1639 Leydon, Holland, married Lydia WILLEMS (Lea VILLMAN), 14 Aug 1656 in Walloon Church, Frankenthal, Bavaria. Three of Jacques COSSART Jr. & Lydia WILLEMS children, Lea, Rachel and Susanne Cossart were baptized in the Walloon Church, Frankenthal, Bavaria. Has anyone information about the parents of either Rachel GELTON or Lydia WILLEMS (Lea VILLMAN). Thank you for any assistance in this matter. Pat Curran

Hi, If you will search for the website called The Olive Tree, you will find reference to this ship--and many others--sailing, if memory serves, into New York Harbor before 1700. Bonnie Bowman Henson

I have just learned that my DURRANT line was French Huguenot (family communication). This opens up a whole new line of research for me! I have records of 2 marriages in Bethnal Green (St. Matthew PR's) one of Thomas DURRANT and Mary Ann PORTER on May 1, 1831 and another of Thomas DURRANT (father of previous Thomas) who married Mary LUTEN Jan 12, 1796. Father of the last mentioned Thomas was also "Thomas" who family records researched previously showed married "Jane" (that is all the info I have on that couple). I know this family later became associated with the Baptist Church, so the idea that they were Huguenot fits right in. I somewhat foolishly assumed, however, that the PR's from St. Matthews meant they were COE. I have not yet been successful in find birth records in St. Matthews, however. Can anyone confirm the DURRANT surname or LUTEN surname as being French Huguenot? Does anyone have access to records for Bethnal Green who may be willing to do some lookups for me on these individuals? Louise Larson Prather, California USA