Hi All New to this list.I am unsure if my family was indeed Huguenots however this is our story which has been passed down through about 6 generations with a few pieces which I have proven. The family name is BELLAIR (or varient) in the circa 1770's two Brothers escaped or emigrated from France to England,on a row boat,very brave ,they where,we were told carpet manufacterers?. On their arrival in England one Brother ws meant to have taken the others money belt and so the other said that he would have nothing more to do with the name Bellair and changed his surname to BELOE. >From the 1851 census in Durham,ENG our first known Ancestor Charles BELOE gives his birthplace as Wells, Norfolk,ENG,from this gives his birth year as 1780.(we were told that they had escaped in the French Revolution)however this could have been where they landed and he has taken this place as a new beginning?I feel now after several years research I may just have to throw myself in France and see if I too can row myself to England :-) I too have to find if the surname is in fact huguenot too Look forward to your suggestions on how to tackle this brickwall Kind Regards Maree Beloe Hyde New Zealand

Maree - Whilst it is true that Wells, Norfolk, is a small port on the North Sea it is not the most obvious place for a rowing boat from the Low Countries or France to make a landfall. I have seen a Dutchman enter Southwold, Suffolk, after rowing across - so it is indeed possible; Wells is tucked right round the corner on the north coast of Norfolk, a long way towards The Wash. No. They either landed much further south after rowing or else, more likely, took passage on a small trading vessel that was making for Wells, if this is indeed where they landed. Good luck on your row to England. I knew a farming family who built a yacht three hundred miles from the sea in Kenya, took it down to the coast and sailed off towards the sunrise to New Zealand, taking Granny and the dog with them. They did arrive. Yours Aye Andrew Sellon East Anglia From: "Mike and Maree Hyde" <[email protected]> > New to this list.I am unsure if my family was indeed Huguenots however this is our story which has been passed down through about 6 generations with a few pieces which I have proven. > The family name is BELLAIR (or varient) in the circa 1770's two Brothers escaped or emigrated from France to England,on a row boat,very brave ,they where,we were told carpet manufacterers?. > On their arrival in England one Brother ws meant to have taken the others money belt and so the other said that he would have nothing more to do with the name Bellair and changed his surname to BELOE. > >From the 1851 census in Durham,ENG our first known Ancestor Charles BELOE gives his birthplace as Wells, Norfolk,ENG,from this gives his birth year as 1780.(we were told that they had escaped in the French Revolution)however this could have been where they landed and he has taken this place as a new beginning?I feel now after several years research I may just have to throw myself in France and see if I too can row myself to England :-)

Hi Angela, Go to <A HREF="http://www.abebooks.co.uk">http://www.abebooks.co.uk</A> and type in "Demarest Family" in the search engine. You will find that the 2nd volume of the book is available at the price of £18.52. You could possibly order that volume and put in a request to be advised when the first volume becomes available. Incidentally, I found so many books on that site that I want to buy that I would probably be living off bread and water from now until retirement if I bought them all. :-) It's a very good site for used books and has hundreds of Huguenot-related books on it. Just a thought... Regards, Jan Zwarick

I am looking to purchase a copy of this CD (or text), used: The Demarest Family: A Record of the desMarets Family in France, the Holy Land in the Crusades, Again in France, Holland, the Palatinate (Germany), Again in Holland, and the Migration to America, 1663. Demarest, Voorhis D. 2 vols.,1964. Would anyone know where I could get a copy of this at a reasonable (less than $50) price? Thanks, Angela Stone Andrews

Hi Giselle, I don't have any EMBRYs in my lines but I have English ancestors (other lines than the one I have posted about this week) who arrived in American from 1623 on and also ended up in VA and WVA so I will keep my eyes open as I reference these lines. Genealogy has taught me to look for names wherever I go. There are some deeds of sale for a couple of families that popped up on eBay this week and I'm going to post a notice on those families message boards in the event someone is descended from those individuals in the 1800s etc. When I first started trying to think about expanding Mom's work there were so many free sites and so many helpful people (as there are on this wonderful list) but I took a 2 year break as she was reaching the end of her horrible battle with Alzheimer's (I was caring for her at home) and by the time I got back on all the sites seem to have become high fee based sites. However, there is still enough information in the message boards, many wonderful lists such as this one etc. to be able to locate a lot of information still. Hope you find the information you're looking for. I know if any on the list have info they will gladly share. There are so many names that sometimes you need a story to peak interest. I had posted before with just the surname and received only one response then decided to share what I thought was a very interesting story and have been thrilled with the response! One thing leads to another and it's surprising what will jog someone's recollection of an event or person's story. I was looking for a Posthlewaite connection and my Dad popped up with: "Grandpa always talked about a Posthlewaite in the family...." I found him in my grandmother's Morris line! :-) I miss California, especially in these 100 degree days we are having now. :-) Best of luck Barbara Engel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Embry, [email protected]" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:00 PM Subject: [HWE] Something to sink your teeth into... > In response to: > > New psychological phenomenon going on here guys - group research - anybody > else got anything difficult that we can all get our teeth into!!! > > Regards > > Tony Fuller > > > > Hi Tony, I've e-mailed you before with this information, but until lately I > hadn't seen much in the way of information from the period I'm looking for. > Maybe it's the right time now? And since you asked, I had to respond! To > the rest of the group, my name is Giselle Embry and I live in California. > The following is what I have been able to come up with so far about my > ancestor Henrie Emberie... Any tibit welcome. The challenge is that it all > happened so long ago. I do belong to the LDS site for England. > > ID: I12751 Name: Henrie Embrie Sex: M Birth: 1615 in England 1 Note: > [17284.ftw] > > References Hotten, John Camden. "The Original Lists of persons of Quality: > Emmigrants: Religious Exiles: Political Rebels..." Genealogical Publishing > Co, 1974, p. 96 and Tepper, Michael. :Passengers to America: A consolidation > of Ship Passenger List from New England Historical and Genealogical > Register" Genealogical Publishing Co. p89 list Henrie's age as 20 years when > arriving to Virginia in 1635. He was reported as coming from Gravesend, > England (this may have been the point of departure). > > The name has many spellings, including D'Embry, Emberie, Embree, D'Amery, > Ambrey, Hembree....and others. > > Some records on various sites indicate that Henrie's father was a JOHN EMBRY > born somewhere in France. His birth date is given as both 1555 and 1595, > and that's a pretty big gap. Maybe a father and son with the same name? > > Probably a French Huguenot as the American Southern Quaker and Canadian > Embrees. > > John's father is listed as WYLLM EMBRY and the birthplace is listed as > Wales/France. I have not been able to confirm these listings and haven't a > clue what the combination of "Wales/France" is supposed to mean, unless he > was born in Wales and moved to France? > > It is quite certain in my mind that Embrys have some basis in France. There > are towns named Embreville and Embry in the Pas de Calais area, Cambrai > (Cambrai is also in Northern France, and according to some is where the name > Embry comes from) and Embres-et-Castelmaure in the south of France. There > are many Embrys now living in the Languedoc and Carcassonne areas of > (southern) France. > > The Dictionary of English and Welsh surnames- by Burdsley assumes that "The > Family of D'Amery came to England with the conqueror from Tours" > > I have also been able to confirm that the names EMBRY, EMRY, EMBREY and > AMBREY are existent in Wales, most of them currently living in the Monmouth > area. There's a Croft Ambrey-Bredon hill style found in eastern Wales, and > there's an Emry's Castle in Wales. > > Dinas Emrys means "Fort of Ambrosius."(an interesting tale attached to this > on the internet)*. > > Dinas Emrys means "Fort of Ambrosius." Geoffrey of Monmouth < > http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4186/Arthur/htmlpages/kingarthurauthors > .html > <http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4186/Arthur/htmlpages/kingarthurauthor > s.html> > tells us that Merlin < > http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4186/Arthur/htmlpages/kingarthurpeople. > html > <http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4186/Arthur/htmlpages/kingarthurpeople > .html> > was also called Ambrosius. Hence the Merlin connection. > > Emry in Welsh means "child of light". > > Where next? > > I would enjoy hearing any ideas or information that you care to share with > me. > > Best Regards, > Giselle Marise Embry > > > > --- > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Be a participating subscriber! Post your surname interests often. > Once a month is about right, or more often if you have new details. > Address your post to [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571 > <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> > &sourceid=1237 >

> Subject: > [HWE] DuBose > From: Joani Heflin <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:29:08 -0700 (PDT) > To: [email protected] > > Can anyone tell me anything about this name? I was > told it was a Hugenot name. It could also be spelled > DuBois. Would appreciate any infomration? Thanks. > > Joani Hi Joani, On page 141, (Mar 8, 1681-2) of Publications of The Huguenot Society of London Volume XVIII, LETTERS OF DENIZATION AND ACTS OF NATURALIZATION FOR ALIENS IN ENGLAND AND IRELAND 1603-1700, you will find - ISAAC DUBOIS, MARGARET, his wife, MAGDALENE, their daughter. ISAAC DUBOIS, ANTHONETTE, his wife, ISAAC, JOHN and ALEXANDER, their children. PAUL DUBOIS. CHARLES DUBOIS. HESTER, wife of Isaac De la fons. JUDICQ, wife of Antony Despeiot, ANTONY, her son, Then check out great Isaac DuBose information and descendants at - http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=syf&id=I0749 Also, check out [email protected] email listserve for a DuBose reunion coming up Oct. 31st, Nov. 1st & 2nd in Charleston, SC USA. Ray

Hell All, Giselle, ah now there is a name, was asking about the D'Embry or Embry family. I assume that not much came from your earlier enquiry? Château d'Embry is a very comfortable establishment in the Pas-de-Calais area. It can accomodate up to 12 or 14, I seem to remember, and at reasonable rates. Meantime.. A quick rumble through the lists finds a Jean Embry who married Anne GUIRAUD vers novembre 1750 à Saissac,11310,Aude,Languedoc. Her father was a Jean and her mother was Cécille SALVETAT Jean Embry's father was François Embry and his wife was Jeanne SABLAYROLLE. May not mean anything but at least the name is in the area being studied. I hope you enjoyed your trip to France. Kind Regards, Peter Leroy

In response to: New psychological phenomenon going on here guys - group research - anybody else got anything difficult that we can all get our teeth into!!! Regards Tony Fuller Hi Tony, I've e-mailed you before with this information, but until lately I hadn't seen much in the way of information from the period I'm looking for. Maybe it's the right time now? And since you asked, I had to respond! To the rest of the group, my name is Giselle Embry and I live in California. The following is what I have been able to come up with so far about my ancestor Henrie Emberie... Any tibit welcome. The challenge is that it all happened so long ago. I do belong to the LDS site for England. ID: I12751 Name: Henrie Embrie Sex: M Birth: 1615 in England 1 Note: [17284.ftw] References Hotten, John Camden. "The Original Lists of persons of Quality: Emmigrants: Religious Exiles: Political Rebels..." Genealogical Publishing Co, 1974, p. 96 and Tepper, Michael. :Passengers to America: A consolidation of Ship Passenger List from New England Historical and Genealogical Register" Genealogical Publishing Co. p89 list Henrie's age as 20 years when arriving to Virginia in 1635. He was reported as coming from Gravesend, England (this may have been the point of departure). The name has many spellings, including D'Embry, Emberie, Embree, D'Amery, Ambrey, Hembree....and others. Some records on various sites indicate that Henrie's father was a JOHN EMBRY born somewhere in France. His birth date is given as both 1555 and 1595, and that's a pretty big gap. Maybe a father and son with the same name? Probably a French Huguenot as the American Southern Quaker and Canadian Embrees. John's father is listed as WYLLM EMBRY and the birthplace is listed as Wales/France. I have not been able to confirm these listings and haven't a clue what the combination of "Wales/France" is supposed to mean, unless he was born in Wales and moved to France? It is quite certain in my mind that Embrys have some basis in France. There are towns named Embreville and Embry in the Pas de Calais area, Cambrai (Cambrai is also in Northern France, and according to some is where the name Embry comes from) and Embres-et-Castelmaure in the south of France. There are many Embrys now living in the Languedoc and Carcassonne areas of (southern) France. The Dictionary of English and Welsh surnames- by Burdsley assumes that "The Family of D'Amery came to England with the conqueror from Tours" I have also been able to confirm that the names EMBRY, EMRY, EMBREY and AMBREY are existent in Wales, most of them currently living in the Monmouth area. There's a Croft Ambrey-Bredon hill style found in eastern Wales, and there's an Emry's Castle in Wales. Dinas Emrys means "Fort of Ambrosius."(an interesting tale attached to this on the internet)*. Dinas Emrys means "Fort of Ambrosius." Geoffrey of Monmouth < http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4186/Arthur/htmlpages/kingarthurauthors .html <http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4186/Arthur/htmlpages/kingarthurauthor s.html> > tells us that Merlin < http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4186/Arthur/htmlpages/kingarthurpeople. html <http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4186/Arthur/htmlpages/kingarthurpeople .html> > was also called Ambrosius. Hence the Merlin connection. Emry in Welsh means "child of light". Where next? I would enjoy hearing any ideas or information that you care to share with me. Best Regards, Giselle Marise Embry --- ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== Be a participating subscriber! Post your surname interests often. Once a month is about right, or more often if you have new details. Address your post to [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> &sourceid=1237

Here we go again, Barbara....this time I have found a Thomas DELAUNE in Ireland. He's not your Thomas who crossed to America, but possibly there is a connection. There was a Thomas Delaune (d 1685) was born of Catholic parents at Brinny, near Cork. His parents rented a farm under a landlord names Riggs. Thomas became a non-conformist writer and died in England. There is a significant amount of biographical information about Thomas on the Ancestry.com site (UK records - 'History & Biographical info"). While this may not tie in with the apothecaries and physicians, it does seem to me that perhaps it is relevant because of his name, the date and his non-conformist writings. I started a week's holidays this morning and have promised myself to get out in the sunshine, so that's it for me ... at least for today. Your turn again, Tony! (grin) Enjoy yourself sorting through all of this! Regards, Jan Z.

Hi Folks Well, the Library is closed this week for stock take BUT I've left a message with somebody at the information service who has promised to get back to me with information about Gideon de Laune (like do the Library have his papers) do the lectures still take place, can I get a copy of the 1964 lecture - that sort of stuff. I'll post on it when I get a reply Regards Tony Fuller

Hi Barbara Bet you wished that you had never started this now!!! References in the Master Index to the Hug Socs Proceedings, Vols I to XXVI, the numbers after the name indicate the various volumes in which references occur, you then have to look at the volume index for the page references: De Laune, 2 3 7 14 20 24 Delaune 9 11 13 15 17 23 24 26 Also try to get hold of a copy of Robin Gwynne's book ' Huguenot Heritage', (available from the Hug Soc in London) there are no direct references to the family but much interesting stuff about the Norwich connections, Anglicans holding two benefices, Pastors becoming Anglican Priests and the like. No references to the family in the Society's tri-centenary publication 'From Strangers to Citizens'. Hope that you're not TOO swamped Barbara Regards Tony Fuller

Totally amazing Tony! I'm overwhelmed with gratitude for all of the information. It's a wonderful story and I have been obsessed this year with finally making the "proven" connections. At the least, I will be well armed with facts and information when I get the chance to visit the UK (hopefully next year). What is the best way to go about proving Thomas Delany's father (the Delaune who went to Ireland - Thomas is said to be from Laois county)? I've only seen from the 1659 census reference one Delaune in Kilkenny County and one in Laois county but no other information. The one in Laois may have been one of the original founders of the Portarlington Huguenot Society as there is one Delaune listed in the surnames at the site but no details about him nor any further references. Jan gave me a source for wills at PRO and will follow-up on obtaining William's (Guillaume) the father's will. Eureka! Should be invaluable. I thought I was getting at the end of my rope (without visiting the Sharsted Estate etc.) but now am renewed and have so much to follow-up on again! I love this list!! By the way, one of my English ancestors came to America on a ship called the Wellcome/Wellcom so the Wellcome foundation caught my eye also. Have some family named Welcome (first name), which I thought was odd then found out the first was named after the ship the family came over on. Same with Dove (as a first name in the family). So interesting. I'm really hooked on this stuff. I started out wanting to input my mother's work so as to distribute copies to the family of all the family genealogy she did (all the hard way - no internet or computer etc.) So what began as an Homage to her (and still is) has become an addiction for me also! :-) Barbara DULANEY Engel OKC, OK, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Fuller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:46 AM Subject: [HWE] De Laune and the Wellcome Foundation > Hi Barbara > > Jan mentioned the following in one of her messages: > > "Also F.N.L. Poynter, Gideon de Laune and his family circle: The Gideon de Laune lecture, 1964 (London: Wellcome Historical Medical Library, 1965) ." > > The Wellcome Library of Medicine is another UK resource that is much underused. I've a readers ticket for the place and I'll make some enquiries later this week to see whether they have any information about the family. > > Other references: > > Durrant Cooper repeats the information about the de Laune's residence in Blackfriars. Barbara, as they were resident in Blackfriars which is within the old City of London boundaries, the Guildhall is definitely the place to be as it is the repository for all historical City stuff. Drop them an email and if they have anything I'll order it up next time I'm in there but that may not be for a couple of weeks - try the manuscripts section first, that is likely to be the most productive and then try the reference library. > > Agnew has just one reference to the family, p.129, in the section entitled 'A Miscellaneous Group': > > "Thomas De Laune, author of the famous and learned 'Plea for the Non-Conformists' is also reported to be of Norman Huguenot ancestry. The name, Peter De Lawne, occurs in 1618, in the Norwich list of French Ministers; Mr Burn (who he?) appends the note: Dr De Lawne having been presented with a benefice in the Church of England (which means that he must have converted to the mainstream Anglican faith from Calvinism), the congregation elected Monsieur D'Assigney in his stead; this gave rise to a contention opf long duration which was referred to the Colloquy, the Doctor contending he could hold both appointments (as many Anglican clergy did); his son, Nathaniel was sent from Norwich School to Bennet College, Cambridge, as a Norwich scholar." > > The school was probably Norwich Grammar School - looks like an enquiry for the Norfolk Records Office Barbara. > > New psychological phenomenon going on here guys - group research - anybody else got anything difficult that we can all get our teeth into!!! > > Regards > > Tony Fuller > > >

Hi Barbara Jan mentioned the following in one of her messages: "Also F.N.L. Poynter, Gideon de Laune and his family circle: The Gideon de Laune lecture, 1964 (London: Wellcome Historical Medical Library, 1965) ." The Wellcome Library of Medicine is another UK resource that is much underused. I've a readers ticket for the place and I'll make some enquiries later this week to see whether they have any information about the family. Other references: Durrant Cooper repeats the information about the de Laune's residence in Blackfriars. Barbara, as they were resident in Blackfriars which is within the old City of London boundaries, the Guildhall is definitely the place to be as it is the repository for all historical City stuff. Drop them an email and if they have anything I'll order it up next time I'm in there but that may not be for a couple of weeks - try the manuscripts section first, that is likely to be the most productive and then try the reference library. Agnew has just one reference to the family, p.129, in the section entitled 'A Miscellaneous Group': "Thomas De Laune, author of the famous and learned 'Plea for the Non-Conformists' is also reported to be of Norman Huguenot ancestry. The name, Peter De Lawne, occurs in 1618, in the Norwich list of French Ministers; Mr Burn (who he?) appends the note: Dr De Lawne having been presented with a benefice in the Church of England (which means that he must have converted to the mainstream Anglican faith from Calvinism), the congregation elected Monsieur D'Assigney in his stead; this gave rise to a contention opf long duration which was referred to the Colloquy, the Doctor contending he could hold both appointments (as many Anglican clergy did); his son, Nathaniel was sent from Norwich School to Bennet College, Cambridge, as a Norwich scholar." The school was probably Norwich Grammar School - looks like an enquiry for the Norfolk Records Office Barbara. New psychological phenomenon going on here guys - group research - anybody else got anything difficult that we can all get our teeth into!!! Regards Tony Fuller

Wonderful! Might be a sibling. I had found a blurb somewhere that one of the Gideons had 37 children! Hard to believe and I, unthinkingly, didn't save the source. May be many illegitimates? You wouldn't think so being a Huguenot/Walloon but things were definitely different back then. Curiouser and curiouser as Curious George would say. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: [HWE] Pierre DE LAUNE > Hello again Barbara, > > I don't know if it will help, but I have found another reference to DE LAUNE. > This time it is with regard to the translation of the Anglican Book of > Common Prayer. The following is an extract from "The Quiet Conquest-The Huguenots > 1685 to 1985". > > "After the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660, Charles II licensed a French > congregation in Westminter provided it used the Anglican Liturgy translated > into French, and the conformist Savoy church came into being the following year. > Its oversight was given to Jean Durel (c.1625-83), a royalist clergyman from > Jersey who had accompanied the King into exile. > > The book is shown open at Charles's order of 1662 that only Durel's > translation of the Prayer Book was to be used in the Channel Islands and in all French > conformist churches in his dominions. Despite being officially approved in > 1663, the translation was criticized in James II's reign, when it was claimed > that it was 'not exactly done as it ought to be, and in many particular offices > differs very much from the English'. It was not Durel's own work, but a > revision of an earlier translation by a French minister at Norwich, Pierre de > Laune." > > Good luck with your search and sorting out these most impressive DE LAUNE > family members. > > Regards, > > Jan Z. > > ______________________________

More very welcome information. Thank you Jan! and all list members. I've found more here in the last few days than I have ever at one time. I will definitely follow through with all the of the fine references that I can find which are recommended to me. I'm more excited than ever about taking that trip to Ireland and England and maybe France but one at a time! :-) Gratefully, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:01 PM Subject: [HWE] DE LAUNE -William & Gideon > Hi Barbara, > > I've found some more references that just might prove helpful. The following > is a direct quotation from "Huguenots in Briatin and their French Background > 1550-1800". This book was edited by the late Irene Scouloudi. > > Page 47 > "....However, to return briefly to the difficulties of the bequest of real > property and the various legal subterfugues adopted, the position is well > illustrated by two instances, that of William De Laune, who died in 1611, and that > of the famous Elizabethan merchant, Sir Horation Pallavicino. Legally De Laune > was unable to leave any of his real property in Blackfriars to his eldest > son, Gideon, the famous apothecary, who was stranger-born. To circumvent this > difficulty he left this property 'in the form of a sale' to a younger > English-born son." > > Page 50 > "...A cursory glance through parish records also affords examples of > assessment of strangers for such local dues as the payment of the poor rate and rates > for meeting the wages of the raker and scavenger. On a higher level we find > such instances as that of the reputable stranger, the apothecary Gideon de > Laune, being fined. He had been elected Alderman for Dowgate Ward in 1626 but was > discharged upon payment of a fine from taking office, on the grounds that he > was an alien." > > > There is also the following reference contained in the Notes: > > "A.B. Beaven, The Alderman of the City of London, (London, 1908) vol. > I,p.140. Also F.N.L. Poynter, Gideon de Laune and his family circle: The Gideon de > Laune lecture, 1964 (London: Wellcome Historical Medical Library, 1965) ." > > > I do hope that this will give you some additional leads, Barbara. If I find > anything else among my books, I'll certainly be pleased to pass it along to > you. > > Regards, > > Jan Zwarick > > Always on the look-out for DE LEPINE, L'EPINE and LEPINE in London > > ______________________________

Yes. Unfortunately he and his whole family died in prison (starvation, if the information is correct) but his works survive till today. I think he may be a brother of the Gideon I'm looking for but have not had time to go in that direction yet as I am trying to untangle all the Gideons and prove my link up to now. I, again, want to thank everyone for their input. I think this era was an exciting one (though also cruel and violent) and am enjoying the history very much. Regards, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [HWE] De Laune again > Ah hah! > > I think I like this fellow already :- Tony Fuller wrote > "Thomas Delaune was a considerable writer on religious > and controversial subjects." > > Kind Regards, > Peter Leroy > > ______________________________

I wonder if anyone can help me with any further information. Nicholas Foinet was born in 1688, married in 1717 to Marie Magdelene HERBERT ( also spelt HEBERS). His parents were Andre FOINET and Catherine CAUX. I believe the family came from Gruchet-le-Valasse Normandy. By profession he was a weaver, admitted tp the Wordhipful Company of Weavers as a Journeyman Weaver in 1715. The surname has variable spelling, being also spelt FINET and FOINETTE. Any information would be much appreciated. Richard Foinette

Well Barbara, I found a lot more information regarding the DE LAUNE family. Here are my latest finds: 1. William Delaune's (Preacher & Physician) will of 1611 is on-line at PRO. That should possibly give you some interesting reading. I imagine that this is Guillaume. You must pay a small fee to access it, but the wills that I've accessed for my own research have proved well worth the fee. 2. Ancestry.com has a wealth of information available regarding many of the DE LAUNE, DE LAWNE and DELAUNE family. I have a subscription to the UK records and, as with paying a fee to PRO, I find this to be well worth the money. There was far too much information available for me to transcribe here, but I can tell you that the Peter/Pierre de Laune who was the pastor of the French congregation at Norwich is a son of William/Guillaume De Laune/De Lawne. There was also a Paul Delaune who was an eminent physician, a native of London and son of William/Guillaume. Paul resided for some years in Dublin. The Cambridge University Alumni records on the Ancestry.com site are an invaluable lead, in my view. Also of particular interest is a very lengthy biographical article about Gideon - he lived for 97 years. He had a son named Abraham and a daughter named Anne, but there were other children. Additional lengthy biographical information is also included for Paul Delaune. I apologize for these 'teasers' but the amount of information available is a bit overwhelming. If you subscribe to the UK records for Ancestry.com and are not pleased with what you find, let me know and I'll cheerfully refund you your subscription fee because I've had an interesting time doing some leg work! (grin) Regards, Jan Z.

Me again, Barbara. I'm afraid I've found that there is another Pierre DE LAUNE. I decided to pursue the tie to the translation of the Book of Common Prayer and stumbled upon the following site: <A HREF="http://tell.fll.purdue.edu/RLA-archive/1995/French-html/Kelly,Louis.htm">http://tell.fll.purdue.edu/RLA-archive/1995/French-html/Kelly,Louis.htm</A> You may, of course, wish to read the entire piece; however, I am reproducing an extract below. I hope you find it to be of interest. "A replacement version came out anonymously in 1616, again printed in London and imposed by Royal Command. The catalogues of the University Library, Cambridge, and Congress attribute it to a Cambridge graduate, Pierre De­laune, who took his BA from Peterhouse in 1588 and was studying theology. However, this ascription is not at all unambiguous. The family had a long connection with Cambridge, and there are two Pierre Delaunes, the elder of them Minister of the French congregation in Norwich, and the other a clergyman. Just which one did this translation, father or son, we do not know for certain. This is not a revision of Philippe, but an entirely new version prompted, it would seem, by the increasing number of French Protestants in England. It has no dedication, and it takes its readings from the Geneva Bible of 1588. It was used until the banning of the Book of Common Prayer under Cromwell." I really ought to go to bed now, but if I dream of any de Laune's, I'll let you know. :-) Regards, Jan Z.

Hello again Barbara, I don't know if it will help, but I have found another reference to DE LAUNE. This time it is with regard to the translation of the Anglican Book of Common Prayer. The following is an extract from "The Quiet Conquest-The Huguenots 1685 to 1985". "After the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660, Charles II licensed a French congregation in Westminter provided it used the Anglican Liturgy translated into French, and the conformist Savoy church came into being the following year. Its oversight was given to Jean Durel (c.1625-83), a royalist clergyman from Jersey who had accompanied the King into exile. The book is shown open at Charles's order of 1662 that only Durel's translation of the Prayer Book was to be used in the Channel Islands and in all French conformist churches in his dominions. Despite being officially approved in 1663, the translation was criticized in James II's reign, when it was claimed that it was 'not exactly done as it ought to be, and in many particular offices differs very much from the English'. It was not Durel's own work, but a revision of an earlier translation by a French minister at Norwich, Pierre de Laune." Good luck with your search and sorting out these most impressive DE LAUNE family members. Regards, Jan Z.