Hi Peter and Others: The colony of Walloons at Sandtoft were employed by Cornelius Vermuyden, who had worked with them before in the Netherlands, to emigrate to Lincolnshire and take part (do the work, more like) in the draining of Hatfield Chase, one of the King's hunting grounds. These people were not religious refugees per se, although they had been about sixty years previously when they were sentenced to permanent exile from France (in large part) and made their way from Artois and nearby areas up to the Netherlands. Regards - Carol

Hello All, While wandering through the family database I came across this potential source, which I thought may interest some subscribers http://www.library.ucla.edu/libraries/special/scweb/pubhome.htm Kind Regards, Peter Leroy

Hello All, I have an interest in one of the 'riche bourgeois' from Lyon way back in the late 1400's to not more than 1530. His name was Barthélemi BUYER. It seems that an ancestor Guillaume LEROY was a "imprimeur" or printer, under the kind patronage of Barthélemi. Should the name have some significance to a subscriber I would be most delighted to know how. Kind Regards, Peter Leroy

Peter & John discussed an interest in the origins of the reformation and the protestant faith in Europe and the events which followed that period, which led to our protestant ancestors leaving France and the Spanish Netherlands for other areas. I think in the past religion and governance in the Catholic world were heavily intertwined, somewhat as it is in Iran and some other islamic countries today. People began to question the piety of the church that draped itself in wealth, land and gold, while many ordinary people lived in relative poverty. So I think the reasons that our ancestors chose to turn against the Catholic faith have to be looked in political terms as well as religious(I think the political reasons were foremost at the beginning rather than questions of theology). The Kings and the Catholic church therefore saw the rise of protestantism as a threat to their own governance, perhaps fearing the toppling of monarchies and the aristocracy, along with the catholic church which is why they oppressed our ancestors with such venom. These problems eventually led to the religious wars 1562-1598 which involved France and the Netherlands. These ended in 1598 with the Edict of Nantes which gave some rights to huguenots. However in thae reign of Louis XIV he was increasingly pressured to take away these rights by the Catholic church who feared the huguenots were becoming too strong. The life of Huguenots was then made very hard, with decrees that they were not allowed to leave the country and had to accomodate troops within their houses(a clear tactic of oppression) if they did not convert to Catholicism. This culminated with formal withdrawal of rights of protestants with the revocation of the Edict of Nantes at the Edict of Fontainebleau, Oct.22nd, 1685 which resulted in further oppression of protestants and their fleeing in their thousands. The following websites cover the history in greater detail: Religious Wars http://www.lepg.org/wars.htm (further pages linked at base of page) Flanders history http://www.theotherside.co.uk/tm-heritage/background/flanders-medieval.htm (further pages linked at base of page) The Edict of Nantes http://www.historyguide.org/earlymod/revo_nantes.html Will _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

I also have Vinton ancestry. The two main Vinton branches are in Essex and Kent, England. As far as I am aware they were not French or huguenot in origin, the name is likely to be a variant of Venton, which is more common in the west of England, originating from a place Venton or Fenton. Will _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Dear Lesley There is quite an extensive site on the web for the descendants of Jean DESPAIGNE born c1523 with descendants DISSPAIN in London and DESPAIN in America. You might find this interesting. I am fairly sure that if I can confirm the link between DESPAIGNE and DECAUFOUR in my tree that these are my ancestors too. http://www.burgoyne.com/pages/bdespain/famgen/famgentc.htm Hope this helps. Bronwyn

Hi, John Vinton came to America in the early 1600s. It is thought that he was born in England about 1620. He is said to have been a Huguenot. He might have been born in France. Some researchers think he may have come from Normandy. The Vinton family produced a huge book, The Vinton Memorial, about 100 years ago. There is no firm information there on John Vinton's origins. Does anyone have any information on the original spelling of Vinton, of the place of origin, or the marriage of John Vinton and Ann unknown? One researcher says the surname Vinton (spelling not mentioned) is on a memorial to Huguenots in Canterbury Cathedral. Can anyone verify this and add details? Another researcher says John Vinton married Ann Moore 20 July 1646 in St. Dunstans, Canterbury, England. Then this person says Ann Moore was born in Lynn, Essex, Mass. about 1625 and died 3 August 1664 in New Haven, Ct. USA. Can anyone verify any of this and explain a marriage in England? Thanks in advance for any clues to this mystery. Elizabeth in Indianapolis, Indiana USA

Hi John As somebody relatively active in the Huguenot Society, I'd be grateful if you would let me know, off list if you would prefer to, when you tried to get information from the Society and where you addressed your enquiry. This is a comment I have heard several times in the past but without some concrete information, there is nothing either the Society or I can do to rectify the matter. Regards Tony Fuller

Dear All As someone who has recently discovered his Huguenot heritage and has therefore joined this group I would be very interested to learn of any websites or publications which deal with the Huguenot/Calvinist beliefs in greater detail and the events which led to the C16 + C17 influxes to England. Off-group replies if preferred. Before anyone recommends it, I have tried asking the same questions to the Huguenot Society (twice) but without the courtesy of a reply so far. Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 29 November 2003 11:01 Subject: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-D Digest V03 #198

Hi Guys I don't seem to have received the original of this one but this came up as a snip: "I wondered if all of the following churches were Huguenot. Allhallows London Wall, Saint Martin in the Fields, Worchester, Saint Benet Pauls Wharf, and Saint Nicholas Cole Abbey in 1801. Most are located in London" The quick answer to the question is no, none of these were Huguenot Churches, especially the London Churches. BUT, don't write them off as not having a large Huguenot first, second or third generation element in their congregation. All Hallows London Wall was one of the City churches, as was St Benet Pauls Wharf, where Huguenot families who were becoming assimilated into the English communities and congregations worshipped, both having Huguenot parishioners shortly after the French Church was founded in the 1570s. Similarly, St Martin in the Fields, St Annes Soho (where my ancestors worshipped and had their familial rites of passage) together with St Pancras Old Church and St Mary's, Marylebone, were parishes where Huguenots and their descendants quickly became part of the congregation. As we have discussed here many times, assimilation happened quickly for the Huguenots, those choosing to live as Englishmen becoming part of the congregations/communities much quicker than those who maintained their England based French connections, tho it did not stop Huguenot families continuing to inter-marry long after the families had left the mainstream Huguenot church structure. Hope this helps Regards Tony Fuller

Hello All, Yes, I too would be interested in reading of the beliefs of our Calvanist ancestors. Now before someone suggests that I run off to a particular website, I should add that, my particular interest is the Calvanist (Huguenot) belief as it was during the time of Calvin and not some modified to suit the day new age version. I would presume that the text would be in French or perhaps even Latin, either way I am sure such reading may be of interest in trying to prepare a paper on just why the Reformation occured, its' main players both political and religious and what good did any of do for the people of France. Dante, , HOTMAN (Franco-Gallia (1573)); Theodore BEZA ( De Jura Magistratum (1575)); Philippe de MAUNAY (Vidiciae Contra Tyrannos (1579) and others, often suggest that politics, or political pluralism, and not necessarily religion, were the hot topics of the time, rather than middle ranking Romanists wishing to change the thought of the Pope. History is a lesson in what was, is it correct ? Kind Regards, Peter Leroy

I am sending along a list of some of the websites I handed out as part of my presentation for the Genealogical Society of Washtenaw County MI last Sunday. Check Cyndis List www.cyndislist.com Experiences of the French Huguenots in America http://pages.prodigy.net/royjnagy/ressegui.htm Huguenot Cross at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/x-eng.htm Huguenot History http://history.cc.ukans.edu/heritage/cousin/huguenot.html Huguenot Ring http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring.htm Huguenot Website http://huguenot.ws/ The Huguenot Society of Great Britain and Ireland http://www.local.ie/content/27567.shtml The National Huguenot Society http://www.huguenot.netnation.com/general/ The Olive Tree Genealogy - Ship passenger lists http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/hug_index.shtml Traits and Stories of the Huguenots http://lang.nagoya-u.ac.jp/~matsuoka/EG-Traits.html Try some of these and let me know if they help. Carolyn Lucado Griffin, Ypsilanti MI Descendant of Huguenot Jean LUCADOU who settled in Manakintowne, VA in 1700.

My apologies to my learned friends on the list. I had the graves and acutes mixed up in my previous posting. Please see correct spelling for DU BLÉS. Bronwyn

Does anyone have the following in their genealogical research? DU BLÈS France (somewhere) to Leiden to Canterbury, particularly Charles DU BLÈS born Leiden 1704, who was later pastor of the French Church in Canterbury. His father was also Charles DU BLÈS. BLONDEL particularly Françoise BLONDEL married to Charles DU BLÈS senior. DECAUFOUR, particularly Esther DECAUFOUR born 1719 in Canterbury and married to Charles DU BLÈS, pastor of the French Church in Canterbury. I suspect Esther DECAUFOUR's parents were Pierre DECAUFOUR and Magdeline MANIE and Pierre DECAUFOUR's parents were Louis DECAUFOUR and Esther DESPAIGNE but this is not confirmed. Bronwyn Stuckey

Another slip - sent the message twice! Jeanette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J de Montalk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [HWE] LUCADOU family > Sorry about the "ts" on the end of "ough" words - slip of the finger! > > Jeanette. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J de Montalk" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [HWE] LUCADOU family > > > > I'd be most interested in the answer ot this question of anyone has it!! > My > > LEFORT family seem to have used the church of St Martin in the Fields > > consistently, for both marriages and baptisms throught the 18th century, > > althought as far as I can tell they actually lived on the Southwark side > of > > the river. As I haven't yet established whether or not they were Huguenot > > this could be a pointer. > > > > Jeanette. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 3:08 AM > > Subject: [HWE] LUCADOU family > > > > > > > I wondered if all of the following churches were Huguenot. Allhallows > > London Wall, Saint Martin in the Fields, Worchester, Saint > > > Benet Pauls Wharf, and Saint Nicholas Cole Abbey in 1801. Most are > located > > in > > > London. > > > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > > Have you explored The Huguenot Ring? Access it at: > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring.htm > > Lots of interesting links and information! > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Have you submitted your surnames for our list web site? > To do so will make your names accessible to others on the Web. > For more info, contact Andrea (list admin)at [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sorry about the "ts" on the end of "ough" words - slip of the finger! Jeanette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J de Montalk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [HWE] LUCADOU family > I'd be most interested in the answer ot this question of anyone has it!! My > LEFORT family seem to have used the church of St Martin in the Fields > consistently, for both marriages and baptisms throught the 18th century, > althought as far as I can tell they actually lived on the Southwark side of > the river. As I haven't yet established whether or not they were Huguenot > this could be a pointer. > > Jeanette. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 3:08 AM > Subject: [HWE] LUCADOU family > > > > I wondered if all of the following churches were Huguenot. Allhallows > London Wall, Saint Martin in the Fields, Worchester, Saint > > Benet Pauls Wharf, and Saint Nicholas Cole Abbey in 1801. Most are located > in > > London. > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Have you explored The Huguenot Ring? Access it at: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8140/webring.htm > Lots of interesting links and information! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I'd be most interested in the answer ot this question of anyone has it!! My LEFORT family seem to have used the church of St Martin in the Fields consistently, for both marriages and baptisms throught the 18th century, althought as far as I can tell they actually lived on the Southwark side of the river. As I haven't yet established whether or not they were Huguenot this could be a pointer. Jeanette. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 3:08 AM Subject: [HWE] LUCADOU family > I wondered if all of the following churches were Huguenot. Allhallows London Wall, Saint Martin in the Fields, Worchester, Saint > Benet Pauls Wharf, and Saint Nicholas Cole Abbey in 1801. Most are located in > London.

Hello List, I am researching my ancestors in Kent England, one of my families have the surname of SNOULTON, this seems to be quite unusual and I have been wondering if there is a possibility that it may not be of English origin, if anyone has come across this name or a varient I would be very grateful if you would let me know about it, I would also be grateful for your opinions as to where it might have originated. Kind regards.........Brenda ________________________________________________________________________ FREE local-rate dial-up - no monthly fees! Move over to Freeola for FREE unlimited e-mail addresses & web space! www.freeola.com

Hello -- This is in reply to Brenda <[email protected]> who posted earlier today (28 Nov) on surname SNOULTON in Kent, ENG. Brenda, you're right that this name isn't common but darned if I haven't run across it somewhere in my searches through the three hundred or so East Kent parishes. (This is my geographical area of interest on all my maternal lines.) In fact, I know I've made note of an Osbourne SNOULTON in the past (is he "yours"?) but I can't remember why. Most likely, the SNOULTON line connects by marriage to some other surname I'm researching (not necessarily Huguenot/Walloon). I notice that two Osbourne SNOULTONs are mentioned on the IGI (which is online at http://www.familysearch.org) and they're in areas where Protestant refugees were found (Canterbury & Bethnal Green, London). As for variants or origins, I haven't a clue. Maybe someone out there on the list can offer an opinion? In the meantime, it would be helpful to the rest of us if you posted again with some details as to why you're thinking that this name may have had non-English origins. Also, you didn't mention any possible Huguenot/Walloon connection. Do you suspect any such connection? Andrea

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