Hello I wonder if anyone could advise please as I have tried the email address on the Huguenot Society webpage and it is being bounced. I applied for membership last year and have received confirmation that my application was accepted at the Council meeting in November. A letter dated 13th November 2003 did say that my Certificate of membership would be sent to me in due course. I haven't received anything since then. Should it have arrived before now or is it due as I understand the membership year does run on a calendar year basis? Many thanks Lesley --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004

Tony Fuller. Are members supposed to receive a certificate of membership? From the messages going back and forth, seems as if they do. I joined in 2002 and am on list of Fellows, May 8, 2002. I did not receive a Certificate and nothing was sent to me about a forth coming Certificate. If I am due a Certificate, how do I go about obtaining one. Thanks, Marie Marie Brunson Jefferson [email protected]

Thanks for the welcome, will sort my query and send ASAP reading the site first. Regards Don.S.DODMAN researching DODMAN [Bacton/Barney/Fakenham/Sculthorpe/Grimston/Tilney/Colkirk etc] DONALD[West Lynn,Tilneys/Clenchwarton incl Walloon connection] SHIRLEY[Briston/Guestwick/Worthing/Billingford etc] KILLINGSWORTH[Clenchwarton/Tilneys/Walpoles etc] HORNIGOLD[Shipdham/W.Raynham/King's Lynn and into Suffolk] SPINKS[Hockwold-cum-Wilton/Bodney/Colkirk/Stoke Holy Cross etc] NFHS Member No.4254. SUBSCRIBER to NORFOLK List. [email protected] http://www.btinternet.com/~dondodman.htm

Hi Everyone, I have this booklet and I can certainly recommend it - I only wish my lot came from the Fens. Suzie Morley in Suffolk, England Looking for: ALLISON, BRADLEY, MILLER (in London) JEE/GEE, HOLLAND, KIRKMAN, MORLEY, RUSHTON, SPICE (in Lincolnshire) TABOURDEUX, TOUCHARD, URAND (Anywhere) > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Fuller [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 11 January 2004 20:45 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HWE] The Fens again > > I've spoken to him on the phone this evening and the booklets > have been rolled into one, with additional material and now > called 'The River Makers' which is available from him for > £3.95 plus postage and packing from his home at: > > 28 St Peter's Road, March, Cambs, PE15 9DA, UK. > > No internet I'm afraid guys so it's all postal. > > And he tells me that he has sufficient for anybody > interested, I ordered my copy today. > > Regards > > Tony Fuller

Hi Guys Shirley is of course right (as she always is) and if you send a query into the Society, the pedigrees they search are the original Wagner Pedigrees, plus any additions made to them after Wagner was filmed. And remember the Wagner wills, far more comprehensive than the pedigrees. Oh, and my copy of Lart arrived yesterday, thinking of putting that on CDRom myself, should be an interesting exercise. Regards Tony Fuller

Hi Guys Usual disclaimer, nothing to do with me in a commercial sense, just passing on information. I recently came across a review in the Hug Soc proceedings for 1992 of a 42 page book called 'The Persecuted: Notes, queries and observations of Huguenot and Walloon colonies at Sandtoft, South Yorkshire and Thorney, Cambridgeshire 17th and 18th century period' which is one of a short series produced by Trevor Bevis, who also produced a further booklet 'Strangers in the Fens'. I've spoken to him on the phone this evening and the booklets have been rolled into one, with additional material and now called 'The River Makers' which is available from him for £3.95 plus postage and packing from his home at: 28 St Peter's Road, March, Cambs, PE15 9DA, UK. No internet I'm afraid guys so it's all postal. And he tells me that he has sufficient for anybody interested, I ordered my copy today. Regards Tony Fuller

Strays found in Lay Subsidy (Taxation) Rolls in the parish of St. Olave's Southwark in 1593: Hubert VANDERKELE Job WYLLYAMSON Levesday DERUBE Widowe HATRON John CONYGRAVE Harman CONNYEGRAVE Widowe SAGE Conrade JOHNSON Peter HOBLYN Jacob EGRIGE Widowe DODD Awdryan LEMONDS Andrew LEUSON Rowland DANAKER Cove DURST Gyles LEVAR Harman LEEKE Arnold CORNELYS John FLEVEN Arden VANSEVEROTT Jane VANPRYSE Simon de MOLLEN Henrick TYLAND Derricke BUSSHE Lambert HAWSES Tyce DENNYS Cornelius DE NEVE Roger ADYNETT Danyell TYBERKEN Peter SYPERS Lucas CREUES Peter DOPPNOLD Garrett HOLLANDER Gyles RANDEPYTT Olyver CLEAUE Peter SANSEGEBECK These are just a few of the names recorded on the parish of St. Olave's in Southwark. The other parishes in Southwark (St. Saviour's, St. Thomas the Apostle, St. George's and the 'Clynck' and 'Parrishe Garden' all had their share of 'straungers'. It is clearly evident that London, in particular, that part of Surrey opposite, on the other side of the Thames had numerous families of European origin, e.g., 'Segell LYBAERT and Tanekin his wif aliens' living in Bell Alley in Brixton. Mike. -- ======================================================================= Mike Gallafent - Publisher - CD 'Strangers, Foreigners & Aliens' - CD 'Published Wills of London' - CD 'Lay Subsidy Rolls Surrey 1593/4' - CD 'Published Wills of Surrey' - CD 'Early Inhabitants of Kent' - CD 'Published Wills of Kent' [email protected] - CD 'Middlesex Oath Rolls 1641-2' =======================================================================

And do not forget the Wagner Pedigrees are on film through your nearest Mormon Family History Centre.!! Shirley Arabin Mount Maunganui, New Zealand . ----- Original Message -----

Hi Guys Ok, Family History Query ... If you direct a query to the Hug Soc in London, it will be dealt with in two ways. Firstly, the name will be checked against the Australian Genealogical Society's microfiche version of all the indexes to the Society's Proceedings. And, there are a number of series of records of Huguenot genealogies held at the Library which will be searched also but that will be purely an outer jacket search, looking for the family name. I would also suggest that is anybody wants to make such an enquiry, they also ask for a search of the Wagner Wills (they know what that is there) because the Proceedings do not contain every Huguenot name ever known or used and the Library has never really collected family histories (though they certainly do now) so whilst the records are full, they nor any other set of Huguenot Records, can be said to be complete. For example, there is no index to all the references for BMDs in all the Society's Quarto Series, so by definition, the searches must be inco! mplete. If there is no trace, the Hon Sec will write to you and let you know. BUT SEE ABOVE, it does not mean that your family is not Huguenot, just that it does not appear on the indexes. My old Nan's family definitely was Huguenot but they don't appear anywhere at the Library at the moment, will put that right tho. Then basically it's up to you to chase elsewhere or file for another day. If there is a record, you will still get a letter but the original enquiry may well be passed to the Hon Research Officer, who is a professional genealogist. But, he not employed by the Society and if you choose to employ him, you will have to engage him at his usual professional rate which I think is high. However, the way the system is set up (I make no comment about the system at all) he is not obliged to take your research nor even to answer your enquiry but if he does that may take some time depending on his other commitments and, if he does agree to take it, he will do the work when he has the time. The alternative is to find a kindly, cheaper researcher who is willing to do the work for you. Hope this explains and helps in some way. Regards Tony Fuller

In Tony Fuller’s recent post, he said one could make a “Family History Query” to the Huguenot Library. What should be included in such a query? Do you just ask them to look for a surname? There are several names I am researching. What kind of response would a person receive from such a query? David Cazalet

Hi Guys, me again Towards the end of last year, I offered to copy some material on Thorney/Fens from Proceedings 2 and send them to about 12 researchers. Unfortunately, for most of late November and the whole of December I was laid low with a variety of ailments, which have resulted in me becoming quite unwell. BUT, I'm feeling much better now and getting back into the swing of the research. So, I have everybody's emails in my immediate 'to do' folder and will be going to the Library next Wednesday. Now, all other things being equal (Library is open, photocopier is working etc etc) I'll get the copying done and out to people the following weekend. Anybody else I owe emails to (Shirley, I know you're out there) will get them this week, weekend latest. Regards Tony Fuller

Hi Guys and a belated Happy New Year to one and all. Well, that's two weeks of not being able to do things out of the way (the uk goes comatose for almost two weeks over Xmas and New Year) but here we are again, all fired up to get on with our research - well, aren't we. The Huguenot Library reopened on Monday 5th January 2004 and is again open for business. Small change in email things though, if you want to send a family history query to the Library [email protected] , could you mark it for the attention of Mary Bayliss and, if you would be so kind, also copy it to me. There have been some instances of messages not being dealt with in a timely manner and the Society wants to make sure that we get things moving properly. For the intrepid computer buffs among our happy band of brothers (and sisters of course) the Society is currently revamping its web site and removing old links and the dreaded email dead end. I'm helping with that and will let you know when the new site, with new active links is up and running. The CDRom project caused a small flurry of interest last year. Although I can't go into details until the whole of the package is ready and the information is released to the full membership, I can tell you that later in the year two CDRoms will be available, hopefully the first of a complete set of Quarto publications on CDRom, featuring the four Threadneedle Street Registers and two Bethnal Green/Hoxton church registers. Specific details will be posted out to members in the Spring mailing. That's all the admin, more stuff on a separate email. Regards Tony Fuller

Another stray from 'Published Wills of Surrey': Nicholas VINCK of Southwark, 5 June 1607 (?) 'Nicholas VINCK [of St. Thomas's Southwark]. I give to my wife the fourscore and five 'Gildrens', which Everard VAN SCHUERE, 'as attorney in Amerfort hath in handes of Nicholas VYNCKE,' and the fourteen which he hath received I give them all to my wife Jorina VYNCKE. I acquit my mother-in-law of ten 'gyldren'and a half. I have understoode that my Grandmother is deceased and that the goodes for the Mortuarye howse are solde, the which aswell be belonginge vnto me as to any boddie ells whoesoever.' 'By me Nicholas Heynderyexen VYNCKE.' Witness Peter PETERES, Cornelis STEVENS, William BOSCH of Amersfoerd, Nicholas GEEWLEN, Amersford. Dat. 5 June [blank]. 'Ex teutonica lingua in Anglicam conversum.' Admon (with will annexed) granted 28 July 1607 to Jorina VINCKE the relict. (PCC) Mike. -- ======================================================================= Mike Gallafent - Publisher - CD 'Strangers, Foreigners & Aliens' - CD 'Published Wills of London' - CD 'Lay Subsidy Rolls Surrey 1593/4' - CD 'Published Wills of Surrey' - CD 'Early Inhabitants of Kent' - CD 'Published Wills of Kent' [email protected] - CD 'Middlesex Oath Rolls 1641-2' =======================================================================

Another stray from the 'Published Wills of Surrey': Translated from the French 31 January 1608 [-9]' Noe GOOTHERAM [of St. Saviour's, Southwark], 31 January, 1608 [-9]. After my debts & expenses are paid, one-half of the residue of my goods I give to my wife, and the other half to my daughter Elizabeth GOOTHERAM, when she is of an age to marry; but if she die before her mother, then I give £4 to Nicholas LECHELLET and a like sum to John TIFFRYES, and these two people shall have the same sum if my wife predecease my daughter. I give 40s to the French church. If my wife and all her children die, I ordain that half the goods remaining at that time shall go to the next of my kin and the other half to my wife's next of kin. Executrix: my wife Elizabeth. Overseers: Nicholas LECHELLET and John TEFFRYES. (Signed) Noah GOOTHERAM. Witnesses: John TEFFRYES, Elizabeth FOLOWE If my wife remarry before my daughter Elizabeth marries, then my said wife shall be bound by my two overseers to deliver the moiety of the goods found in my house at such her marriage. (Signed) Noah GOOTHERAM. Witnesses: Michaell DU CHROE, Robert TIRRYE (marks). Proved 5 April 1609 by Elizabeth, relict of the testator. Mike. -- ======================================================================= Mike Gallafent - Publisher - CD 'Strangers, Foreigners & Aliens' - CD 'Published Wills of London' - CD 'Lay Subsidy Rolls Surrey 1593/4' - CD 'Published Wills of Surrey' - CD 'Early Inhabitants of Kent' - CD 'Published Wills of Kent' [email protected] - CD 'Middlesex Oath Rolls 1641-2' =======================================================================

In message <[email protected]>, Mike Gallafent <michael.gall [email protected]> writes Another stray from the published wills of Surrey: John ARCHMINER, Brewer 'John ARCHIMINER (Nunc. Will) Concerning £100 left in Mrs GODFRIE's hands, a widow in Easte Smithefeilde-He gave £20 each to Henriecke BARNES als SKELLINGE and John SHEREMANNE. To the aforesaid widow £16. To the Duche Church £20. The residue to his mother and sisters. Item £60 in the hands of Mr. BLUNDEN cooper and the residue of his goods he left to be disposed of by his master Edward BROWNE (his exor.) amongst the servants of the house or otherwise. Dat. (N.D.) Witness John ADNEY, Henricke BERNSINS als KELLINCKE, James DEAN, John CHARMAN. Proved 23 Sept. 1605 by exor. Mike. -- ======================================================================= Mike Gallafent - Publisher - CD 'Strangers, Foreigners & Aliens' - CD 'Published Wills of London' - CD 'Lay Subsidy Rolls Surrey 1593/4' - CD 'Published Wills of Surrey' - CD 'Early Inhabitants of Kent' - CD 'Published Wills of Kent' [email protected] - CD 'Middlesex Oath Rolls 1641-2' =======================================================================

In message <[email protected]>, Mike Gallafent <michael.gall [email protected]> writes Another stray from the published wills of Surrey: 'Mary JORET, of Southwark, 5 February, 1604. Mary JORET borne of Vallenchiennes at this pnte dwelling in the parish of Saint Olaue in the Borrough of Southwark neare London 'first widow of Peter HOUBLON and at this pnte widow of the late Charles HANEDOUX.' To the poor of the French church £6- To Margarett BOUGENIER, my mother 'my goulden ringe with a Rubye'- To my dau. Jeane HANDOUX, 'one girdle of silver with fower chaines of silver hanging'- To sister Hester JORET, 'one ringe of golde garnished with a pointe diamond'- To my cousin Katherine MOREAU 'my stomacher of fustaflita'- To Jane, wife of Roger DU JARDIN, 'my aporne of florret and silek wrought together'- My servant Humphrey- The maid servant of my brother Nicholas HOUBLON ' a silver cup guilt and £60 - To my sons Peter and James HOUBLON ' a cup of siluer' each and £150 each, at 21 years. Exors. My bro.in-law Mr. Nicholas HOUBLON and John DIEPPENBROECK my cousin, merchants of London. Dated 5 Feb. 1604 Witness Daniell BLANEK, notary, D. SELLIN, Phillip SELLIN, Ezechias LE ROY. Proved (PCC) 18 March 1604 by exors. Mike. -- ======================================================================= Mike Gallafent - Publisher - CD 'Strangers, Foreigners & Aliens' - CD 'Published Wills of London' - CD 'Lay Subsidy Rolls Surrey 1593/4' - CD 'Published Wills of Surrey' - CD 'Early Inhabitants of Kent' - CD 'Published Wills of Kent' [email protected] - CD 'Middlesex Oath Rolls 1641-2' =======================================================================

In message <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes >Hello to all: > >Does anyone have anything on the two surnames:HAMON, HIGNETT. >If so,would you be so kind as to share that info. I have been researching both >names for some time in N.W.France. I would like to find someone researching the >same. > >Regards, >Gerald >Baton Rouge Isaac HAMOND is recorded as an alien granted rights of denizenship in London in 1687. Tonchens HARMONS is named as a Dutchman, servant to another Dutchman, London 1567. Nothing on HIGNETT. Mike. -- ======================================================================= Mike Gallafent - Publisher - CD 'Strangers, Foreigners & Aliens' - CD 'Published Wills of London' - CD 'Published Wills of Surrey' - CD 'Published Wills of Kent' [email protected] - CD 'Middlesex Oath Rolls 1641-2' =======================================================================

Hello to all: Does anyone have anything on the two surnames:HAMON, HIGNETT. If so,would you be so kind as to share that info. I have been researching both names for some time in N.W.France. I would like to find someone researching the same. Regards, Gerald Baton Rouge

Dear Phyl and others I am interested in huguenot family names livning in Thorney, because I don't know how many of my ancestors lived here. I have ordered the the book of Henry Peet (1902) about the De Vantier, in English Wanty, family of Thorney. Page 17 is the only one I have: Pierre de Vantier was born at La Gorgue (Gorgue, Pays de l'Alleu, France) in 1637. He married (perhaps 1660-61 in Calais?) Marie la Cauve (in Denmark called Marie Labove) of Calais, born 1641 in Calais, Pas-de-Calais, France. They fled to Friesenheim in Pfalz, where they lived until the area was destroyed by the french 1689. Then they left to go to Woddow, Battin, Brandenburg, Germany, where they both died. They lived in Uckermark with other refugees. I don't yet know, who from the De Vantier family, who lived in Thorney. In Denmark the family is called Devantier. I would be happy if someone can mention other familynames from Thorney. Also information about huguenot family names in Calais area would be nice: Labove, Betacque, Hurtienne and Louison. Hanne Thorup Koudal Denmark

Dear Phyl, Hanne, and others my ancestors were HANCAR and HANQUAR in the mid 1600s and were in Sandtoft and Hatfield before moving down to Thorney, Whittlesey and Ramsey in the period 1670 to 1700. while in Sandtoft, a HANCAR brother and sister married a LEGRAND brother and sister, and another HANCAR also married Jenne DESTRIE after moving down to Thorney and Whittlesey, the name became written as ANKER, ANKOR, and ANCHOR, before it seems to have standardised to ANKER in the early 1800s. Regards, and happy hunting to everyone in the New Year David Anker Yorkshire, England