Your message interested me when you mentioned the name BESNARD because I have never heard of it before. Family legend has it that our BARNARD/BERNARD family were Huguenots. My family do not appear to have ever been wealthy but could those names be anglicised versions of Besnard ? Any thoughts anyone? Alan At 14:35 06-02-06, Lorraine wrote: >JULIUS BESNARD owned linen mills Douglas, CORK IRE. His gt >gfr PIERRE BESNARD md,MARIE DUBOIS in France. Born about >1630/1650. Does anyone have info. which would tell me what area of >France they came from? My 6xgt gparents. Thank you. Lorra

Channel Islands off the coast of Normandy France.After french revolution.strong ties to renouf and Noel families.? keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger http://community.webtv.net/zgordo/GORDOSGENEALOGY

Hello again! I have made another breakthrough with my GALIEGUE family - I had all but given up hope of finding this one! Marie Margueritte GALIEGUE was the daughter of Jean Baptiste GALIEGUE and she was born in 1755, Walincourt Nord, France Marie Margueritte GALIEGUE ( spelt GALLIER on IGI ) married Joseph DUC 10 Dec 1776 at Spitalfields Christ Church STEPNEY They had 4 children according to IGI: Marie DUC b 1777 Margueritte DUC b 1780 Joseph DUC b 1782 and Susanne DUC b 1784 all were christened at The Artillery-French Huguenot, Spitalfields, London I am wondering if anyone can help shed any more light on this family. Perhaps where Joseph DUC was born, when they died, and who the children married. It is possible Margueritte married Michael PRIOR in 1808 at st Pancras and Susanna married possibly John Harding 1811 Bethnal Green. Any help would be really appreciated thanks kindly Jocelyn Bond Sydney Australia

Craig This might not be of much use to you but I have a connection with an Irish family in Dublin in the mid 19th Cent. The name was variously SAYLE and SAYLES; on immigration to England it became SEALE and SEALES, and even SALE. Garth - Surrey

Hi folks A couple of years ago - I think - we discussed the availability of records at Rouen and somebody kindly sent me an Access file with LOADS of information in it from that area. I've gone through two incarnations of emails since them and don't have the original information about sources etc. If the person (man I'm sure) is still subscribed, would he get in touch with me about it please - I've just had two long research trips to Rouen and want to work out what I have and what is on the file. Many thanks Tony Fuller

Hello list - I am posting the following summary of the status of my search for the origins of Jean SALE (m. 1719 in Wilhelmsdorf, Bayern; d. 1744 in WIlhelmsdorf). As you will see there are several possible trails, but nothing conclusive on any of them. If anyone has any suggestions for further inquiries, please let me know. Craig Sale Schaumburg, IL USA This is a summary of ongoing research into the ancestry of the SALE family as documented in the French-Reformed church books of Wilhelmsdorf and Erlangen in the former German state of Bayreuth and now in Mittelfranken, Bayern (Bavaria). The early history of this family is found in Section X. Additional proven variations of this name include Salé, Sales and LaSale. However the group of variants with which these names are associated is more extensive and diverse. The nine other sections present a chronological listing of families and individuals with such surnames, who have been found in the area of Mittelfranken. I. SALEN family from Balbouté in Pragela to Angermünde 1686-1710 1686 in OCT, List of people presently in Erlangen includes: “Jean SALEN, laboureur”1 Estat des personnes et families qui sont presentement dans la ville d’ Erlang. Oct. 1686. Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 8, page 18. Reference: Berzeichniß der Franzosen, welche im Oktober 1686 in Bayreuth, Bayersdorf, Erlang und Münchaurach untergebracht waren. Part III. * 1686 in the second half of October, Jean SALEN of Balbouté is in Münchaurach. Source: Photocopy from Stadtarchiv Erlangen Reference: Pragelaner in Erlangen 1686-1688 by Theo Kiefner * 1686 in October - Refugees sent by the Markgraf to Münchaurach Estat des refugiés envoyés par S. A. S. a Municaura (Münchaurach) “Laboureurs et peigneurs de chanvre Samuel PELLEIN et Jean SALE.”1 Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 8, page 20. Reference: Brezeichniß der Franzosen, welche im Oktober 1686 in Bayreuth, Bayersdorf, Erlang und Münchaurach untergebracht waren. Part IV (This is equivalent to the prior citation.) * 1686 on 22 NOV, Jean SALEN of Balbouté is in Frauenaurach. Source: Photocopy from Stadtarchiv Erlangen Reference: Pragelaner in Erlangen 1686-1688 by Theo Kiefner * 1691 SALEN from Balbouté is one family listed as settling a new community in Angermünde in Brandenburg, later part of Prussia. Source: LDS Film # 824133 Item 1 Reference: Geschichte der Franzosischen Kolonie in Brandenburg-Preußen, unter besonderer Berücksichtigung der Berliner Gemeinde by Ed. Muret (1885) * Entries for family of Jean SALEN and Madeline BUFFE in the Leiden collection. Births: Jaques (11 JAN 1695), Etienne (14 OCT 1697), David (24 JUN 1700), Armand and Pierre ( both 02 JUN 1703). Deaths: Jean (25 APR 1704, age 40), Armand (01 MAY 1704), Pierre (27 MAR 1710). Source: LDS Film # 199925 (Fiches Rusy-Salomé) Reference: Fiches op de Waalse registers,1500-1828 (Leiden) * Church records from Angermünde confirm all births beginning in 1695 (when the church records begin). Also includes death records for Jean SALEN “lecteur” , age 48 from “Balbouté/Pragela” on 25 APR 1704 and for Madelaine BUFFE “aus Angrogne Vallee Piemont”, age 40 on 10 APR 1708. Source: H. Hurtienne “retired Fr. pastor on duty” Schwedt/Oder Reference: Auzug aus dem Taufregister (or Sterberegister) der Evangelischen Kirchengemeinde Franz.-ref. in Angermünde * 1710 SALEN family entry in list of members of French-Reformed community in Angermünde. Cites Jean and Madeline as deceased. List of sons includes a Jean, age 17 (born 1693 – prior to extant church records), Jaques, Etienne, David and Pierre Source: LDS Film #1949481 Reference: Quelques Listes de Colonies 1709-1710 * Additional information: Aid disburserment records in Frankfurt include several entries for the same families from the Pragela with several variant spellings – SALE, SALEN, SALEIN, SALLEN. Source: LDS Films #341885, 341887, 341888 Reference: Unterstützungen an die Réfugien aus Frankreich, aus den Waldenser Gemeinden in Piemont, aus der Pfalz 1685-1855 * No records for SALEN continue in Angermünde after 1710. II. SALES – List of persons promising to settle in Bayreuth: Winter 1686 1686 “Jacques SALES d’Ales, ouvrier de rubans”1 Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 16, page 32. Reference: Eine Liste von Franzosen, die vermuthlich Cordier und du Roy im Winter 1686 engagirten. III. SALEIS – List of persons promising to settle in Bayreuth: Winter 1686 1686 “Sieur Henry SALEIS, moulinier en soye et ouvrier de rubans et taffetas. ”1 Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 16, page 33. Reference: Eine Liste von Franzosen, die vermuthlich Cordier und du Roy im Winter 1686 engagirten. IV. SALES – List of persons promising to settle in Bayreuth: Winter 1686, in Erlangen in 1697 and 1698. 1686 “Le Sieur SALES, facturier en layne du Vigan et maistre foulonneur”1 Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 16, page 32. Reference: Eine Liste von Franzosen, die vermuthlich Cordier und du Roy im Winter 1686 engagirten. * A listing of the manufacturing and business community in Erlangen circa 1697 “Allerley Wollen und Haarhüte….SALES qui a Soin du Foulon”1 Translation: Assorted Woolen and Hair (i.e. felt) Hats SALES who takes care of or “operates” the foulon, the term for an apparatus used in the manufacture of felt. Source: 300 Jahre Hugenottenstadt Erlangen: Vom Nutzen der Toleranz; Herausgegeben von Christopher Freiderich, page 172 (photograph). Reference: LISTA Der Erlangischen Manufacturen und Kauffmannschafften from the Staatsarchiv Bamberg. A certified photocopy has also been provided by the Staatsarchiv Bamberg. This document is also transcribed in Schanz as Item 32, page 82. * 1698 on 23 JUL, Residents of Neu-Erlangen Residence #14: “Dans la meson du sr. Joseph Munier,…David SALLE, facturier et foulonner, sa femme, un enfan, une servante et un peigneur;…”1 Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 39, page 89. Reference: Die auf Grund des vorstehenden Befehls gemachte Zusammenstellung der in Neu-Erlang befindlichen Häuser und der französischen deutschen Bewohner. (It seems probable that the 1698 and 1697 citations refer to the same person. The 1686 citation is also presumed to be relevant. Felt making was a somewhat less prevalent occupation.) * 1690-1700 This was a period of economic difficulty in Eralngen. Sixty entrepreneurs and craftsmen relocated to Wilhelmsdorf, among them very outstanding people like GELY and MEYRADIER. “Man weiß, daß Erlangen zwischen 1690 und 1700 eine wirtschaftlich schwierige Phase durchtmachte (Kredit- und Kapitalmangel). 60 Handwerker und Unternehmer verheißen die Stadt und gingen nach Wilhelmsdorf, unter ihnen sehr angesehene Leute wie Gely und Meyradier.” Source: Die Hugenotten 1685-1985; Herausgegeben von Rudolph von Thadden und Michelle Magdalene. Reference: “Refuge und Integration: Der Fall Erlangen” by Myriam Yardeni, page 152. V. SALENC – List of persons leaving Erlangen 1687/88 (Dated 05 JAN 1688) “2. Jean SALENC de St. Ipolite”1 Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 25, page 60 Reference: Berzeichniß der Personen, welche Erlangen 1687/88 verließen VI. SALÉNE – List of persons leaving Erlangen 1687/88 (Dated 05 JAN 1688) “22. SALÉNE d’Anduze”1 Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 25, page 60 Reference: Berzeichniß der Personen, welche Erlangen 1687/88 verließen VII. SALIE – List of persons leaving Erlangen 1687/88 (Dated 05 JAN 1688) “83. SALIE de Generalles”1 Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 25, page 61. Reference: Berzeichniß der Personen, welche Erlangen 1687/88 verließen. 5. Januar 1688. VIII. SALES in Schwabach 1700-1717 1700 on 20 NOV David SALES married Susanne VILLARET in Schwabach. Occupation: Tanner. Parents: Jean SALES and Isabeau DARNIEU. Origin: Sauve, Languedoc. Source: Deutsche Hugenotten-Gesellschaft e.V. Reference: Die Hugenotten-Kolonien in Franken and Kolonielisten by Wilhelm Beuleke * 1716 on 03 MAR an enumeration in Schwabach “David SALES, maître tanneur, sa femme, deux compagnons et un apprentif.” Source: Correspondence from Stadtarchiv Schwabach Reference: An unspecified transcription of the original census of the colony by Secretary Pommier And Source: Zur Geschichte der Colonisation und Industrie in Franken by Georg Schanz (1884) Item 137, page 298. Reference: Estat des families qui composent la colonie Françoise de Schwobach. Praes. 3. März 1716. * 1717 on 19 APR David SALES died in Schwabach. Source: Deutsche Hugenotten-Gesellschaft e.V. Reference: Die Hugenotten-Kolonien in Franken and Kolonielisten by Wilhelm Beuleke * Additional information: 1698 in September David SAL, a "taneur" from Sauve in Cevennes, is recorded in Morges, Switzerland. Source: LDS Film # 840625 Item 3 Reference: Les dénombrements généraux de réfugiés Huguenots au pays de Vaud et à Berne à la fin du XVII siècle by Emile Piquet IX. SALLE (SALLES) in Schwabach and Erlangen 1707-1712 1707 on 23 JUN Antoine SALLE (SALLES) married Margueite ANDRÉ. Occupation: Silkworker. Parents: Jean SALLE and Marguerite BLIS. Origin: Le Collet-de-Dèze, Gévaudan. 1707-1709 He lived in Schwabach. 1710-1712 He lived in Erlangen. Source: Deutsche Hugenotten-Gesellschaft e.V. Reference: Die Hugenotten-Kolonien in Franken and Kolonielisten by Wilhelm Beuleke X. SALES in Wilhelmsdorf 1719-1750, then to Erlangen Documented variations of this name in the Wilhelmsdorf church records include Sale, Sales and LaSale 1719 on 05 OCT Jean SALE married Marie Antoinette AVIENY in Wilhenmsdorf, Bayern After an unexplained gap of more than eight years, their known children are: 1728 on 15 FEB Jean Antoine LaSALE was born in Wilhelmsdorf 1730 on 13 JUL Marie SALE was born in Wilhelmsdorf 1735 on 21 MAR Jaques SALES was born in Wilhelmsdorf 1737 on 14 SEP Pierre SALES was born in Wilhelmsdorf * 1744 on 01 JAN Jean SALE died in Wilhelmsdorf Source: Research by Kurt Modschiedler at the Stadtarchiv Erlangen Reference: The church records of the French-Reformed community in Wilhelmsdorf * Further information on descendants from the line of Jaques Sale can be found in the Family Trees on RootsWeb in the data base: sale_tree Notes: 1. Capitalization has been added to the surnames within these quotations. The discovery of the origins of Jean SALE of Wilhelmsdorf continues to be the primary objective of this investigation. Any contribution related to the research of these surnames or others that are similar in the area of Mittelfranken will be helpful. Any information regarding the birth and parents of Jean SALE of Wilhelmsdorf would be greatly appreciated.

Hello - I emailed this directly to Tony Fuller because he has helped me in the past, but I am not sure if he has got it, sometimes my email is considered junk mail. I'd appreciate any help from anyone. Hi Tony (and others) Do you remember my Du Soleils? If you do or don't, I hope I am not bothering you. I thought you might be able to help me a little bit. I recently found the death of a Peter DUSOLIE on FreeBMD in 1852 in Marylebone. Intrigued by this (there were a Peter and Elizabeth Dusolei having children around the same time and in the same area as my Thomas and Sarah), I found him on the 1851 census, a porter, aged 83 born Westminster St Anns (where my Dusolei's were from). This gives his year of birth as 1768. So I used the batch code for St Ann's Soho and looked under first name.... Peter. There was a Peter DESOLEI baptised Oct 1767. Perfect match, no? I also found a John DESOLAI born in 1757 in St Ann's too. Parents were John and Mary. The same as my Thomas, born 1763. I was wondering if when you looked at the records/indexes you looked at, did you also use these spellings, DESOLIE/DESOLAI/DESOLEI/DESOLEIL? You probably did, but I am trying ever so hard to find out more about these ancestors and to find the marriage of John and Mary or Jean and Marie as they were probably known, and perhaps one day find out where in France they were from, and when they came over. I'm sure you understand how I feel. Anyway, will leave you to whatever you were doing before. I hope I have not bothered you. Kind regards Chloe

Hi Shane, There were no laws in England regarding christenings, but there were laws regarding marriage and church attendance. After the Hardwicke Marriage Act of 1754, a marriage had to be performed in an Anglican church for it to be legally valid. The only exceptions were Jews and Quakers. Huguenots were not excepted. If the marriage was conducted in a place other than an Anglican church then it was not legal, and the children of the marriage would be legally (but not ecclesiastically) illegitimate. This would severely restrict their rights to inherit property. Many Dissenters, Catholics and so on had two marriage ceremonies - one in their own church and one in an Anglican church. Just to complicate the issue with respect to Huguenot churches - some of them were considered part of the Established church and others were not. The Hardwicke Marriage Act was repealed in 1837. From Elizabethan times (the exact date escapes me) it was illegal not to attend an Anglican church on a Sunday. This law was aimed primarily at Catholics. Huge fines were imposed but rarely collected. The Catholic Emancipation Act of 1827 removed this requirement. Dissenters were freed from the requirement by an earlier Act - about 1780 I think. As above, some Huguenot churches were considered part of the Established Church but others were not. In any case, it would be a pretty rare event to see a Huguenot prosecuted for non-attendance at church. I haven't seen any references to the practice, but others may have something else to add. English law did not require baptisms to be performed in any particular denomination, and even at the height of religious intolerance, all churches recognised "one baptism for the forgiveness of sins". That is, once you were baptised, it didn't matter in the name of which denomination it was done. Regards, Cathy Day Canberra, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <smdtarry@bellsouth.net> To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:07 AM Subject: [HWE] Christening practices in England > Folks, > > Can someone please refresh my memory on the Christening laws in England? Didn't the Huguenots/ > Walloons have to have Christenings performed in Anglican churches? > > Thanks, > > Shane > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Not sure how to post a message to the list? > Instructions are on list website at: > http://www.island.net/~andreav/post.htm > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Cathy, Thanks. I had marriage laws confused with Christenings. It seems that the late date of the law would have resulted in having a minimal effect on many Huguenot marriages. An interesting sidenote for all: When searching the English parish registers, it isn't uncommon to find a notation usually stated something like: "Burial of a stranger." Often there is no mention of the person's name, suggesting the person was unknown to the locals. I wonder how many of these strangers have pasted through time unrecorded. Shane > From: "Cathy Day" <cathy.day@homemail.com.au> > Date: 2006/01/09 Mon AM 06:41:10 EST > To: HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HWE] Christening practices in England > > Hi Shane, > > There were no laws in England regarding christenings, but there were > laws regarding marriage and church attendance. > > After the Hardwicke Marriage Act of 1754, a marriage had to be performed > in an Anglican church for it to be legally valid. The only exceptions were > Jews and Quakers. Huguenots were not excepted. If the marriage was conducted > in a place other than an Anglican church then it was not legal, and the > children of the marriage would be legally (but not ecclesiastically) > illegitimate. This would severely restrict their rights to inherit property. > Many Dissenters, Catholics and so on had two marriage ceremonies - one in > their own church and one in an Anglican church. Just to complicate the issue > with respect to Huguenot churches - some of them were considered part of the > Established church and others were not. The Hardwicke Marriage Act was > repealed in 1837. > > From Elizabethan times (the exact date escapes me) it was illegal not to > attend an Anglican church on a Sunday. This law was aimed primarily at > Catholics. Huge fines were imposed but rarely collected. The Catholic > Emancipation Act of 1827 removed this requirement. Dissenters were freed > from the requirement by an earlier Act - about 1780 I think. As above, some > Huguenot churches were considered part of the Established Church but others > were not. In any case, it would be a pretty rare event to see a Huguenot > prosecuted for non-attendance at church. I haven't seen any references to > the practice, but others may have something else to add. > > English law did not require baptisms to be performed in any particular > denomination, and even at the height of religious intolerance, all churches > recognised "one baptism for the forgiveness of sins". That is, once you were > baptised, it didn't matter in the name of which denomination it was done. > > Regards, > > Cathy Day > Canberra, Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <smdtarry@bellsouth.net> > To: <HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:07 AM > Subject: [HWE] Christening practices in England > > > > Folks, > > > > Can someone please refresh my memory on the Christening laws in England? > Didn't the Huguenots/ > > Walloons have to have Christenings performed in Anglican churches? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Shane > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > > Not sure how to post a message to the list? > > Instructions are on list website at: > > http://www.island.net/~andreav/post.htm > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > > > > > > ==== HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE Mailing List ==== > Website for the Huguenots-Walloons-Europe list at: > http://www.island.net/~andreav/index.html > Lots of information, links to other sites, surnames list. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

I'm reposting this since my first attempt bounced back: Anyone connected to this couple? Robert Beharrell m. Sarah Gimbet (sic - GIMBERT) 28 Oct 1829 at Sutton, Cambridgeshire Sarah I believe to be a sister of my Gx4 Grandfather Samuel Gimbert. Regards, Jill ~~~~~~~ GIMBERT - TURGOOSE - PET(T)IT - CAMPS in Cambs/Hunts "How simple a thing it seems to me that to know ourselves as we are, we must know our mothers' names." ~ Alice Walker

Everyone, Belatedly joining the discussion about Series TT, the following description on the site of the National Archives of France may be helpful: _http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/chan/chan/fonds/edi/sa/tt.htm_ (http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/chan/chan/fonds/edi/sa/tt.htm) I have the book by Gildas Bernard (Les Familles Protestantes en France. XVIe siecle-1792. Guide des recherches biographiques et genealogiques, Paris, 1987, 704pp) that is mentioned at the beginning of the description. It is arranged geographically by the "department" of France, and then by what material is in which repository; if material from a particular region is included in Series TT, the specific reference is under the "Paris. Archives nationales" heading. When I was last in Paris (Sept. 2002) and at the Archives Nationales, I looked at some finding aids for Series TT in one of the reading rooms, but not at the documents themselves. A section I transcribed from a finding aid indicates that during their occupation of France in 1940-1944, the Germans took the Series back to Germany for microfilming and researching the origins of German families who had originally been Protestant refugees from France. This information is repeated in the title details of the LDS films, which appear to be copies of the films made by the Germans. It should also be noted that the LDS films are only Serie TT 230-276B, whereas the full Serie TT is 1-464, according to the description at the above link. 230-276B seem to be one of several indexes to the material, but it is not everything. So, Tony, you probably will need to do some scouting after all when you are in Paris! I will be there at the end of the month, but unfortunately will be doing research only for work. Regards, Anne Halpern Welcome, MD, USA (south of Washington, DC) Researching: DE DREUX, DEDREUX, DETREUX (Sedan, 1585-1619; Kaiserslautern, 1619-1765; Pirmasens, 1766-1860; Philadelphia, 1860 onwards)

Folks, Can someone please refresh my memory on the Christening laws in England? Didn't the Huguenots/ Walloons have to have Christenings performed in Anglican churches? Thanks, Shane

Hi Marie After many years working with the Society as Subscription/Membership secretary, the wonderful Muriel Fisher has been forced to retire due to ill health. Her place has been taken by the equally wonderful Glynda Easterbrook, to whom fees etc should be sent, care of the Huguenot Society/Library in London. Regards Tony Fuller

Tony, Hate to bother you but could the name of the Lady where we send the dues, for Huguenot Society of Great Britain & Ireland.. Thank you for your assistance. Marie Marie B. Jefferson mjeffers@bellsouth.net

http://ajax.parish.ath.cx/translator/ It's called AjaxTrans and it translates each word as you type, when you hit the space bar.

Hi Judy A few more details would be useful but, as a rule of thumb, you can discount anybody being Huguenot prior to 1540 (ish) which was when Calvin's work first started to have a major effect in France. If the family went to France from Germany between 1517 and 1540 (ish) they may have been Lutheran, the first Protestante/Reformee church, rather than a Calvinist/Huguenot. Need more dates plus a location in France to be of more assistance. Regards Tony Fuller

Hi Judy A few more details would be useful but, as a rule of thumb, you can discount anybody being Huguenot prior to 1540 (ish) which was when Calvin's work first started to have a major effect in France. If the family went to France from Germany between 1517 and 1540 (ish) they may have been Lutheran, the first Protestante/Reformee church, rather than a Calvinist/Huguenot. Need more dates plus a location in France to be of more assistance. Regards Tony Fuller

Att: Tony Accidentally deleted your emails regarding above. Please resend. Thank you, Judy

Dear list, Could anyone tell me weither there was REALLY such a castle in France or if there ever was a real person, Peron de Basche (an alledged Ambassador in the 1400's) We had believed them to come from Germany but now someone is saying they were Huguenots. Very confusing.!!! Thanks in Advance, Judy

Does anybody know if this film series is available outside of France? It has several Huguenot Registers that the LDS does not seem to have. http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/chan/chan/fonds/EGF/SA/SAPDF/Egfn-tt.pdf Also see - http://erwan.gil.free.fr/outils/guide-gildas.htm Merry Christmas! Ray