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    1. [HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS] Teamsters - Borst and Rebholz Families - New York City
    2. To give you an idea of a teamster's life in the late 1800's to early 1900's in New York City: My great-grandfather, GEORGE BORST, woke at 4:00 a.m., hooked up a team of horses to his wagon at a stable on 36th Street between 10th and 11th Avenue, in Hell’s Kitchen (located on the west side of Manhattan) picked up pigs at the freight yard and rode them to Rohe's Brothers, a pork dealer "similar to Merkels," which was across the street from the stable where he kept his horses. During the day he went to a market downtown and bought produce (vegetables and fruit) and sold it from his wagons with his sons. On some afternoons he drove a horse-pulled coach (which he also owned) to the cemetery for funerals. The cemetery (Calvary Cemetery) was in Queens and he had to travel over the 59th Street Bridge to get there. For funerals he used a "better team of horses" which he also owned. He also owned a hansom which one of his sons drove. Late in the afternoon when he was not busy driving his horse and coach for the funerals, he could be found working in the stable with his sons. As you can see, life was very hard in those days. When I asked my Father if my great-grandfather was a rich man (since he owned all those horses, carriages, etc), his response was, "How could anyone be rich if you were raising twelve children." His daughter, ROSE BORST, married CHRISTOPHER REBHOLZ who was in the produce field. Their son, RAYMOND (my father), was a truck driver in New York City. Eventually, he became secretary-treasurer for a New York City Teamster Local. Dorothy Rebholz Stewart **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

    11/09/2008 04:49:54
    1. List Update - Once again!
    2. Joan Asche
    3. Hello all, Migration of this list to the new list management system was postponed because of delivery problems with AOL that developed after the A-C lists migrated to the new system. Rootsweb has put the D-Z migration on hold until this problem with AOL is resolved. You can read all about here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ AOL users can find additional information about this by subscribing to the support group AOLers-RootsWeb Mailing List or simply reading through the list archives. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html I will no longer pester you with updates because if interested you can use this link http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ for updates or email me privately off the list at jasche45133@gmail.com. Thanks for your patience. Joan List Admin

    08/22/2006 04:13:52
    1. LIST UPDATE PLEASE READ
    2. Joan Asche
    3. Hello all, As you probably already know the mailing lists are being moved to a new list management system. The migration of this list was rescheduled from a previous message date and is scheduled to be migrated on Tuesday, August 22 For anyone interested the schedule and additional information may be found http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/migrate_sched.html Once this list is moved to the new service it should not present any problems but you should be aware that you may need to adjust your spam filters. Officially from rootsweb: <snip> The "-L" is being dropped from the "official" list name. This means the "from" address your mailing list emails come from will be slightly different- ListName@rootsweb.com vs. the current ListName-L@rootsweb.com. You may have to adjust your spam filters or put the new address on your "accept" list to prevent it from being caught in your "junk" folder. <snip> AOL users have reported some problems with receiving mail in a timely matter and you can find additional information about this by subscribing to the support group AOLers-RootsWeb Mailing List or simply reading through the list archives http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html You will be able to send mail with or without the "-L" ALSO: subscribers who subscribe in both the list and digest modes using the same email address will no longer be able to do so. You may still subscribe to both but you will need to use two email address. You can always use a free Internet account such as hotmail, yahoo or gmail. I have a few gmail invites left for anyone who would like one. Any questions just email me at jasche45133@gmail.com

    08/20/2006 02:32:08
    1. PLEASE READ IMPORTANT LIST UPDATE
    2. Joan Asche
    3. Hello all, Just a quick list update to let you know that this mailing list is scheduled to be migrated to the new mailing list service on Thursday, August 17. The change will mostly affect anyone who is subscribed in both list and digest modes. You will no longer be able to subscribe to both lists modes with the same address. You can belong to both modes if you like but you will need to subscribe to them using different email addresses. You can always use a free online email service such as yahoo, hotmail, or gmail. Anyone who would like an invite to gmail please contact me at jasche45133@gmail.com. If you do not change your mailing address to the digest mode you will no longer receive a digest copy, but you will still continue to receive your mail under list mode. Once again this only pertains to those folks who subscribe to both list and digest modes using the same email address. For everyone else things should go smoothly. For additional information regarding the list migration see: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/migrate_sched.html Please do not discuss this on this list. If you have any questions please email me privately jasche45133@gmail.com. Sincerely, Joan Asche Admin

    08/14/2006 04:32:20
    1. Re: [HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS] Definition of Huckster and Teamster
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. Hi, Take a look at my follow up email that reposts the links. Joan Milome3@aol.com wrote on 12/28/2005, 12:32 PM: > Definition site does not show. > > > ==== HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS Mailing List ==== > > CLICK HERE FOR QUESTIONS/COMMENTS THAT DO NOT BELONG ON-LIST. > mailto:HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST MODE click here and send: > mailto:HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: > mailto:HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > --

    12/28/2005 06:03:26
  1. 12/28/2005 05:32:46
    1. Re: [HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS] Definition of Huckster and Teamster
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. Okay these links look strange. One more time! Huckster: http://www.occupationalinfo.org/29/291457018.html Teamster: http://www.occupationalinfo.org/91/919664010.html Index: http://www.occupationalinfo.org/ J. Asche wrote on 12/28/2005, 12:04 PM: > In today's "Rootsweb Review" there is a link to a neat website > "Dictionary > of Occupational Titles." > <http://www.theodora.com/dot_index.html>http://www.theodora.com/dot_index.html > > > You will find the definition of huckster here: > <http://www.occupationalinfo.org/29/291457018.html>http://www.occupationalinfo.org/29/291457018.html > > > > The definition of teamster: > <http://www.occupationalinfo.org/91/919664010.html>http://www.occupationalinfo.org/91/919664010.html > > > > Any comments are more than welcome on the list. > > Joan > Admin > > > > ==== HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS Mailing List ==== > > CLICK HERE FOR QUESTIONS/COMMENTS THAT DO NOT BELONG ON-LIST. > mailto:HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST MODE click here and send: > mailto:HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: > mailto:HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > --

    12/28/2005 05:25:30
    1. Definition of Huckster and Teamster
    2. J. Asche
    3. In today's "Rootsweb Review" there is a link to a neat website "Dictionary of Occupational Titles." <http://www.theodora.com/dot_index.html>http://www.theodora.com/dot_index.html You will find the definition of huckster here: <http://www.occupationalinfo.org/29/291457018.html>http://www.occupationalinfo.org/29/291457018.html The definition of teamster: <http://www.occupationalinfo.org/91/919664010.html>http://www.occupationalinfo.org/91/919664010.html Any comments are more than welcome on the list. Joan Admin

    12/28/2005 05:04:11
    1. Genealogy Look Up Forum
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. FROM: GenealogyLookUp@aol.com Genealogy Look Up Forum is a web site of volunteers who will do various types of look ups such as, Births, Deaths, Cemetery, Census, and marriage. The site even has it own genealogy chat which is helpful to those wanting to get genealogy advice from a live person. The URL is below to visit this site. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylookup/ ________________ This is an informational email only. Please do not direct comments or questions regarding this website on this list send them to GenealogyLookUp@aol.com DO NOT cross post this message to any other mailing list without permission of that list's admin. Have a great day! Sincerely, Joan Admin -- --

    12/28/2005 01:45:51
    1. PLEASE READ: From the Admin
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. Hi To All List Members, Joan Asche, List Admin stopped by my site, postcards.rootsweb.com and created a Virtual Card just for you! To pick up your card, simply point your browser at the page listed below. http://postcards.rootsweb.com/cards/dec23-3419921408.html The card will remain on the server for about one month, so please print it out or save it as soon as you can. Cards By Maggie http://postcards.rootsweb.com/ Happy Holidays, Joan Admin Please visit my Christmas Greetings site: http://www.jasche.com/XMas.html --

    12/23/2005 01:16:49
    1. Baltimore city Hucksters
    2. My ggrandfather Francis Joseph Lingner was born Feb 7,1873 in Baltimore City Maryland, in the late 1800's he was a glass blower, but by 1920 he had become a Huckster selling ice.He did this until he died in 1928. Also my grandmothers sister Virginia Mae Clendaniel married March 13,1931 to Herbert Lee Young of Baltimore city. Herbert was a Huckster of produce, Virginia used to bake alot of pies and Hubert would sell them along with his produce to make extra money. Herbert's brother Frank Young married a cousin of Virginia's, Katherine Brown of Queen Anne's co MD , he was also a Huckster of produce in Baltimore city So far these are the only ones I have come across. I do have a few wagon drivers from Baltimore city Lynn

    01/28/2005 01:45:13
    1. Your ancestors
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. Forwarding to the List: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS] Your ancestors Date: 01/28/2005, 2:24 PM From: Bonnie <rugosa@marsweb.com> To: jasche45133@aol.com Joan, My great-grandfather, Levi Hires, is listed in the 1910 U S Census in Solomon Township, Cloud County, Kansas as a Teamster. He was a fifty-one year old who was born in Wisconsin, as were the other members of his family. The included his wife, Martha S. VanWormer Hires, and children Arthur L Hires, Irma R. Hires, Mettie S. Hires, Dewey M. Hires and Paul C. Hires. I have no other information on this period in their lives and would be greatful for anything anyone is willing to share. Thank you. Bonnie

    01/28/2005 08:15:28
    1. Re: [HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS] Life Way Back When.
    2. Joan, I think it is a great idea. There is quite a bit of old info and history that is pertinent. We are not the only ones who cherish the history of Hucksters and Teamsters. The friends of Independence National Historical Park included portraits of Hucksters in their exhibit this past fall at the reopening of the second bank of the US on Park ground in Phila. See this link <A HREF="http://www.ushistory.org/independence/secondbank/karie.htm"> http://www.ushistory.org/independence/secondbank/karie.htm</A> Good old W.C. Field's, born in Philly, was the son of a Huckster, apparently <A HREF="http://www.netstate.com/states/peop/people/pa_wcf.htm">http://www.netstate.com/states/peop/people/pa_wcf.htm</A> and the reading terminal market in Philadelphia has references to their historical beginnings back to the old open air markets and Huckters of the last century on their website <A HREF="http://readingterminalmarket.org/about.php">http://readingterminalmarket.org/about.php</A> Great beginnings! Joe Hunter

    01/28/2005 07:17:46
    1. Re: [HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS] Fwd: Brickwalls
    2. Hello to all, ....and welcome aboard, Dolores!!! As far as I am concerned, Teamsters started out as Stagecoach drivers....at some point! I know my teamsters in Philly in 1900 were not driving Mack trucks!!! Anyway, Teamsters today would probably be working hard to get your great grandfather a union card to build up the "ranks".......so, far be it from me to pass judgement. If I did, one of my Huckster ancestors would probably pitch a tomato at me! Check out the attached links.....some great stuff on Stagecoach drivers.....this will give you a great 'feel" for what it must have been like way back then.... Best regards and best of luck in your search, Joe Hunter http://bchs.kearney.net/BTales_200205.html http://www.linecamp.com/museums/americanwest/western_names/parkhurst_charlie/p arkhurst_charlie.html

    01/28/2005 06:31:52
    1. Fwd: Brickwalls
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. Forwarding to the List with my stamp of approval! Hope to see more folks posting their brickwalls. Subject: Brickwalls Date: 01/28/2005, 11:52 AM From: "D. J. Brotherton" <djbrtb@kci.net> To: HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS-admin@rootsweb.com Joan, I have a Great Grandfather who is listed in the 1860 Iowa Census as a Stagecoach driver. Does this qualify as a Teamsters? His name was George Brown, a very common name. Family gossip states that he drove a route from Iowa to Idaho and on the way got pneumonia and died. I have been unable to find anything about this fact - or his father and mother's names etc. The only information I have is contained in the 1860 Census and it states he is 23 years old and born in New York - I know that he lived at least four more years as he was the father of my grandfather who was born in December 1864. By 1870 Jane is hife is married to another man and my grandfather was living with them. My Great Grandmother and her son, my grandfather, arrived in Oregon in 1881. Would this be a Brickwall that could be placed on this listing. If not I thank you for reading this email. At the very least is there a book or website that could give me an understanding of the job of a stagecoach driver in those days. Dolores

    01/28/2005 03:48:26
    1. Life Way Back When.
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. I'm interested if anyone has any diary entires, or newspaper articles, etc. concerning there ancestor huckster/teamster? It thought it might be interesting to get a "feel" for how life was for them. Photos are not allowed in rootsweb mailing lists but if anyone has a photo(s) they would like to share I can upload it my personal website for all to enjoy. If enough people are interested I will start a new website. Sincerely, Joan Asche List Admin. -- Is today your birthday? Happy Birthday from me to you - visit: http://www.jasche.com/birthday.html Bowman's Place For all Bowman Researchers http://groups.msn.com/BowmansPlace

    01/27/2005 11:20:30
    1. Your ancestors
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. I would like to encourage all members to post their family histories around your ancestor(s) who worked as Huckster/Teamsters. Spouses, children and anything else you would like to include. Don't forget to include locations and a timeline! By all means, share your BRICKWALLs with us. We have many new members, so who knows what we may discover. Sincerely, Joan Asche List Admin. -- Is today your birthday? Happy Birthday from me to you - visit: http://www.jasche.com/birthday.html Bowman's Place For all Bowman Researchers http://groups.msn.com/BowmansPlace

    01/27/2005 11:17:51
    1. New subscribers
    2. Joan L. Asche
    3. This list has had many new subscribers to this list since I posted my welcome message. I would like to see all subscribers post something about their ancestors and how they fit into the discussion of the list's topic. To see what is already posted you will find messages in the archives. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS Sincerely, Joan Asche List Admin. -- Is today your birthday? Happy Birthday from me to you - visit: http://www.jasche.com/birthday.html Bowman's Place For all Bowman Researchers http://groups.msn.com/BowmansPlace

    01/22/2005 12:14:41
    1. Re: license for cart?
    2. In a message dated 01 20 2005 7:01:03 PM, HUCKSTERS-AND-TEAMSTERS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Didn't they need a license for the cart? If so where would the records be to check that? Also would Sam have needed a license for his horse? >> 00000000000000 I know carts today need a lic. Any very old Phila. Lic. would be at Phila. City Archives if it survived. A state or federal tkt. would be elsewhere. Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html

    01/20/2005 12:34:32
    1. Cahill-Phila.-Huckster
    2. I am searching for information on Alfred CAHILL. He was a Huckster in Phila. during the 1880's. His wife was Elizabeth - maiden name DEMOTTE or MULLIGAN. They were both born in PA. Best of luck to this new list. piketre@comcast.net

    01/20/2005 07:22:35