After writing about Ulrich at some length, I might as well take a few more minutes and offer my theory about the ancestry of Hans and Ulrich to the list. I think that Hans the Woolweaver was the Hans Hauri, baptized 25 December 1641 at Schoeftland, Aargau, Switzerland. The Aargauisches Staatsarchiv is most insistent that Hans must have come from Schoeftland, where one branch of Hauris were Mennonites. The New Mennonite Encyclopedia says the same and adds that the Hauris and Widmers were two locally prominent Mennonite families. Thanks to the research of Alfred Reichen, a professional genealogist hired by Bertha Newman, the LDS library in Salt Lake has several hundred family group sheets that collectively give a complete picture of the Hauris in Schoeftland from the early 1600s to the late 1800s. Examining these family group sheets, one family stands out. A Hans Hauri, baptized 25 December 1641 at Schoeftland, son of Melcher (Melchior) Hauri and Verena Meyer, married twice. 1st, Anna Maria Schwykon, and 2nd Elsbeth *Widmer*. Significantly, neither marriage is recorded at Schoeftland, which apparently it should have been even if it was solemnized in one of the surrounding communities (other marriages that took place in other communities are recorded). The Mennonites resisted marrying in the established church, so if this Hans was a Mennonite that would explain why his marriages were not recorded. I think it is also significant that his second wife was a Widmer, the family named with the Hauris as being local leaders of the Mennonites. Although Mennonite marriages were not recorded, the government was often able to compel the baptism of Mennonite children into the established church. This Hans Hauri had 6 children. By his 1st wife: Melcher (1672). By his second wife: Hans (1678), Uli (1682), Jacob (1684), Salome (1687), and Hans Ulrich (1694). I think it is signifcant that this family disappears forever from local records after the baptism of the last child. The timing and names are right. Hans could be the Woolweaver. He married a Widmer. He had sons Hans, Jacob, and Hans Ulrich (who, by custom, would have been called simply Ulrich) - although these names are too common to prove much. He disappears from local records about the right time (especially if he lived in Alsace 1707-09, as they say). Lenzburg, the place of origin for the Hans the Woolweaver, is the judicial district that adjoins Schoeftland. If this is the right identification, then the Woolweaver would have been 69 when he left Switzerland in 1711. I think that he probably died in Amsterdam not long after arriving. Hans Jr. would have been 32 (and about 58 when he died in 1737). Ulrich would have 17 when they left Switzerland and only 29 when he died. Because Mennonite men in this generation often married late, I don't see any problem with supposing that Hans Jr. was 32 and unmarried when he left Switzerland with his parents. He probably married Anna shortly afterwards, perhaps before reaching Pennsylvania. Also, if Ulrich also married somewhat late, it would not be surprising that he was childless at 29. Perhaps he was even newly married. I've dabbled with this scenario for many years. I offer it to the list hoping that someone else will pick up on it and either prove or disprove it. Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery