Phil, From a faulty memory I think Hans & Ulrich departed aboard ship on the Rhine from Switzerland with their father Hans and other Mennonites. At each stop in Germany that would accept immigrants, some deboarded. At Amstradam, Hans & Ulrich deboarded with other accepted immigrants. Later to obtain passage to America. The ship headed back upstream to find new homeplaces for the remaining Mennonites on board. Jakob may have deboarded at Hamm. Edward Bowman Espenshade's book may contain more on Hans & Ulrich. Some may be contained in my future posts to the mail list. SignOff 4 today, Fred >>>>>> PARTIAL RERUN OF Clemant HAURY letter: File: CLEMEN82.TXT /COPY of Clement A. HAURY letter./ December 2, 1982 Woodlake, CA 93286 37837 Road 200 Notes from "My American Ancestors & Their Descendants" & other sources by Edward Bowman Espenshade Copyright Aug1949, printed by Jay Letter Service in Chicago IL 1. Meaning & Origin of Name. The Hauris came from Switzerland. Name is of Germanic origin. Die Deutschen Families Namen defines the name as "ein uber lauter Mensh (sudd)" translated as "an ever loud man" or "a high spirited person". The "American Germaica" Vol 4 1902, published an article written by Dr. Oscar Kuhns, Studies in "German Family Names" page 306, explains: the name Hauri has 2-stems, Hug & Hart. Hug means mind, spirit. Dr. Kuns neglects to define "hart", it may be defined as hard, sharp, or severe, thus a high minded or high spirited person. Anglicising Hauri, the "au" becomes "ow" or "ou" & "ri" becomes 'ry". Howry is the most prevalent today & is the form used in this book except for the first & second generations which are called Hauri. Early assessment lists have spelled the name Haure, Hauerich, HAURY, Howery, Howrey. The first US census (1790) lists them as Hourey. Lancaster Court House records are indexed as Howry. 2. The Howry Cemetery. There is a cemetery which is enclosed by a substantial rubble wall with the inscription on its east face; Built by John Howery's Heirs-- Samuel King, builder--1843. The Howry cemetery is located about 1/2-mile north of the borough of Strasburg on North Decator Street extended (Jenkintown PA.?) 3. Other Howrys: Charles Bowen Howry, son of Judge Howry, was born in Oxford, MS. His relation to Lancaster Co. PA Howrys is believed to be as descendent of Ulrich Hauri who had moved to VA & whose descendants married with the Bowens. Both Bowens & Howrys had descendants in that state who participated in the American Revolution. These descendants of various names engaged in slavery. Later they moved to TN & MS. The Howrys, relatively few in number are quite widely distributed & of diverse political & religious affiliations. Additional notes in letter from Anne Howry. (from above book): Hans Hauri a wool weaver, his wife & 2-sons from northern Switzerland moved to Germany, then in 1711 to Holland. An Ulrich Hauri arrived in America in about 1711 & a Hans Hauri in 1717. These may have been the sons of the other Hans Hauri. The children of the younger Hans, Frena, Elizabeth, Jacob, Ann & Johannes settled in PA. The book traces about 9-generations. /end of copy of Clement A HAURY letter/. >>>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:22:11 -0600 "Phil Howry" <phil@texas.net> writes: >Fred, >It has been surmised from my sources that I came through Jacob Howry >Sr. b. >1741 Penn. d.1809 Virginia the son of either Hans or Ulrich Hauri who >came >to America between 1695 & 1715 from Switzerland. >There seems to be some interesting connections to your listings. >phil ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]