Notes I have made about Howery's over the years -- I have included information about sources as I recorded it at the time (I have gotten much better at this). >From "Kegley's Virginia Frontier" copyright 1938: - p 497: "Residents of Buffalo Creek from the Land Commissioner's Book, 1800 .....Jacob Howry -- 394 acres....." - p 482: [lists of marriages] "1803. Jacob Howry and Susannah Wax, of Henry Wax;....." >From "Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files" volume II - F-M, Abstracted by Virgil D. White. p. 1188 under Filler: "Filler, Peter, Catharine Howry former wid, R5303, PA Line, wid appl 15 Dec 1840 Floyd Co VA aged 91, sol lived at White Hall in Northampton Co PA at enl, sol 7 wid had m in Sep 1769 or 1770 in Northampton Co VA & sol d 23 Oct 1800 & wid m next Jacob Howry about 1803 & h d in 1808 or 1809, sol's oldest child was Lawerence Filler who made aff'dt in 1840." From: "Early Adventurers on the Western Waters" vol 1, by Mary B Kegley and F. B. Kegley, p.180: Montgomery Cty Service Records: "I have employed Rice D. Montague to procure for me a pension and if he suceeds (on account of service of my late husband Peter Feller) he is to recieve compensation for his trouble and expense one fith part of the first stipend and nothing if he fails." Date 15 December 1840, Catharine Howry (her mark)" >From "Early Marriages, Wills & Some Rev. War Records, Botetourt Cty, VA": - Jacob Howery dec. Apr ret Dec., 1809 - Daniel Howery & Susanna Way (Wax?) dau Peter -- Nov. 25, 1801 - Daniel Howery & Mary Feller, April 19, 1810 - Howry, Jacob & Catherine Feller, widow Nov. 1, 1803 - Howry, Jacob & Martha Gaunt, dau John Gaunt, Jan. 15, 1803 - Howry, Jacob & Polly Huff, Aug. 16, 1816 - Howery, Jacob & Susannah Clair, April 21, 1798 - Howry, Michael & Christeen Hartman - Aug. 14, 1786 - Howery, Samuel & Mary Sifford - Aug 17, 1792 >From Virgina Appalacian Notes p 128 -- sorry, no date) Another interesting early Botetourt Cty entrepreneur was Jacob Howry, who in the 1770 - 1780 period bought a large tract of land north of present day Amsterdam... he proposed to sell off tracts of land or lots to individuals, who after purchasing the tracts, would continue to pay him an annual rent. A few purchasers bought lots, but his dream of "Howrytown', his own fiefdom, never materialized." >From "Early Adventurers on the Western Waters," vol 1, by Mary B. Kegley and F. B. Kegley, page 110: "In addition to the ministers already mentioned, others who performed marriages in Montgomery County included: ...Michael Howery..." Unknown book source: "Michael Howery - Pine Creek Baptist Church"

>Hans and Ulrich were Mennonites. Jacob was a Lutheran. In the social context >of the time, I think that this is very significant. One of the noticeable >things about our immigrant ancestors is how tenacious they were of their >religion and their ethnic group until several generations in America - often >not intermarrying with other religious and ethnic groups until after the >Revolution. To me, it just "feels wrong" that Jacob would have become a >Lutheran if he really came from a Mennonite family. It also seems unlikely >that he would have been a Lutheran if he came from Switzerland. An interesting note is that in Europe, many of the people who became Mennonites had been Lutheran prior to converting. Mennonites (a denomination based on the teachings of Menno Simons) have two distinct origins...in Holland and in Switzerland. My great-grandmother came from Russia to Canada and married my great-grandfather in 1901. She *did* have to become Mennonite before she married him. I still don't know what denomination she and her family may have been before that. >Very few places in Europe would accept >Mennonites, because they were neither Calvinist nor Lutheran (the only legal >varieties of Protestant). I guess I have a hard time believing that Jacob >Howry, a Lutheran, came from a Mennonite family and just shrugged off his >religion just when he got to Pennsylvania and could be a Mennonite in peace. The main objections in Europe to Mennonites were the fact that (a) they are Anabaptists -- which means they believe in adult baptisms rather than infant; (b) they are pacifists and do not hold public office. Pennsylvania is another matter...with so many Germanic groups...Amish, Hutterite, Mennonite, Lutheran, etc. Even within these larger groupings, there are constantly splits...not so much over theology, but sometimes just whether or not to have an organ in the church/meeting house, etc. So many of these groups are similar, but you dare not tell them that!! :) I will admit, however, that my knowledge of Mennonites is based more on the "Dutch" and "Russian" Mennonites rather than "Swiss" Mennonites. My father's side of the family is primarily "Russian" Mennonite, originating in Holland and Prussia. My understanding is that a large number of the "Russian" Mennonites that came to North America came to Canada first (largely centred in Manitoba); whereas "Swiss" Mennonites were more concentrated in Pennsylvania. -- Amelia Reimer-Davisson -=-=-=-=- Searching for HOWRY & Associated Families: PEER, CRAWFORD, LAUDERBAUGH, KENNEDY, Starr, Carlton, Ellis, Rainer, Thomas, Owens, Huston, Clifton, Job, Tomey, Daly, Ayres, Howard, Hale, Goodell, Tolksdorf, etc. -=-=-=-=- Russian Mennonite Research: REIMER, ESAU, GIESBRECHT, LEPPKE/LOEPPKY, KLASSEN, MANHOLD/MANHOLTZ, CONRAD/KONRAD, WALL, KOP/KOPP/KOOP, DYCK/DUECK, PETERS, REMPEL.

I believe it. And my branch of the Howerys is still Lutheran :) Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: fredhaury@juno.com [mailto:fredhaury@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 10:23 AM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOWERY-L] Jacob Howry Justin, The religious affiliation connection appears to remain of paramount concern today. Helmut HAURY, my 6th Gen' Mennonite cousin in Germany had great difficulty accepting the fact that my 5th Gen' father Frederick HAURY was a Lutheran. fredhaury@juno.com >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:30:26 -0700 "Justin C.S. Howery" <jhowery@tde.com> writes: >I'm not going to get any homework done tonight, so I might as well >write the >third of the messages I've been thinking about for so long. > >Jacob Howry, the ancestor of the Virginia branch, is generally thought >to >have been a close relative of Hans and Ulrich. I wonder if that is >quite so >certain as we believe. > >As far as I know, the first record of Jacob (whichever of the many >generations of Jacobs he was) is the 1739 baptism of his daughter >Maria >Elisabetha in York Co, Pennsylvania *Lutheran* records. He lived at >Paradise >Township, founded principally by Lutheran and Calvinist families from >the >Palatinate. We can probably accept that he is the same Jacob Howry >who, with >his wife Ursula, were witnesses to a Lutheran baptism in the same >place in >1745. They were granted Letters of Administration for his father Jacob >in >1755. > >It's curious that neither Jacob appears until 1739, about a generation >after >Hans and Ulrich were granted land in 1717 and 1718. We know that Jacob >cannot have been Ulrich's son. Apparently, he also cannot have been >Hans' >son (because Hans had a son Jacob who is otherwise accounted for). The >elder >Jacob (who died before 1755) might have been a brother of Hans and >Ulrich, >which would explain why Ulrich's will implies that he had more than >one >brother. I'm still troubled by this solution, though. > >Hans and Ulrich were Mennonites. Jacob was a Lutheran. In the social >context >of the time, I think that this is very significant. One of the >noticeable >things about our immigrant ancestors is how tenacious they were of >their >religion and their ethnic group until several generations in America - >often >not intermarrying with other religious and ethnic groups until after >the >Revolution. To me, it just "feels wrong" that Jacob would have become >a >Lutheran if he really came from a Mennonite family. It also seems >unlikely >that he would have been a Lutheran if he came from Switzerland. > >As a social background to my concerns, after the Thirty Years War >(1640), >the people of Europe were required to conform to the religion of their >rulers, which was the established church in their area. They were not >allowed to dissent. This is old hat, but I'm not sure that its >connection to >the Howrys has been considered. In Switzerland, the Protestant Cantons >embraced Calvinism. Everyone living in those areas was required to be >a >Calvinist or be punished. Hans the Woolweaver was allowed to leave >Switzerland in 1711 because as a Mennonite he was a truly bad person >in the >eyes of the government and because the government finally just >couldn't cope >with the obstinacy of the Mennonites. Very few places in Europe would >accept >Mennonites, because they were neither Calvinist nor Lutheran (the only >legal >varieties of Protestant). I guess I have a hard time believing that >Jacob >Howry, a Lutheran, came from a Mennonite family and just shrugged off >his >religion just when he got to Pennsylvania and could be a Mennonite in >peace. > >Also, if Jacob came directly from Switzerland, he would have been a >Calvinist, not a Lutheran. The Calvinists who left Switzerland for a >generation or two in other parts of Germany frequently became >Lutherans (if >you're the kind of belong to the established church, there's not much >difference between being a Lutheran and being a Calvinist as long as >you're >still Protestant - not enough difference to fight about anyway). > >So, I suspect that Jacob was the conforming type (and probably his >immediate >ancestors were also conformists). At some undetermined date they left >Calvinist Switzerland, settled in a Lutheran area of Germany - perhaps >the >Palatinate - and then moved on to America as Lutherans . . . and >stayed >Lutherans for another 100 years. They were still Lutherans in Virginia >and >the early generations there married other German Lutherans (not >Mennonites). >They didn't stop being Lutherans until the whole area, irrespective of >ethnic background, abandoned their traditional faiths to become >Baptists. > >I wonder if the elder Jacob was the Jacob (or a descendant of the >Jacob) who >left Hirschthal (a village in Shoeftland parish) in 1696/7. Or perhaps >a >member of the family at Baden. Or perhaps a member of the family >Reinach >(near Schoeftland). Or perhaps . . . > >I'd love to hear contrary views. > > Justin C.S. Howery > Denver, Colorado > jhowery@tde.com > http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I have read about the many Howerys and their variations in spelling. I am having great difficulty in locating my branch though. My Great Grandfather was born in Germany oin about 1844-46 (actual date unsure) He came to America in 1855-56 with his mother, father and 2 brothers. His father had been an offcier in the German Army. His father died at sea and was buried at sea. You would think this would be easy to find. No so! I have no names beyond my G Grand father Rudolph Howery. The mother and boys went to Toledo, Ohio and mother died shortly after of cancer?? Brothers took Rudolph to an orphan's home and left him. No one has any further information. No names, dates, nothing. He did not know his b day so they stood him next to boys his height and he was determined to be 11 at that time. He was taken in by a family named Junkins in Ohio where he lived until he married Mary Catherine Cunningham. I have searched for 15 years to find out about his family, why they came to Ohio, who were his parents and brothers etc. Can anyone offer help, advise>>

Justin, The religious affiliation connection appears to remain of paramount concern today. Helmut HAURY, my 6th Gen' Mennonite cousin in Germany had great difficulty accepting the fact that my 5th Gen' father Frederick HAURY was a Lutheran. fredhaury@juno.com >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:30:26 -0700 "Justin C.S. Howery" <jhowery@tde.com> writes: >I'm not going to get any homework done tonight, so I might as well >write the >third of the messages I've been thinking about for so long. > >Jacob Howry, the ancestor of the Virginia branch, is generally thought >to >have been a close relative of Hans and Ulrich. I wonder if that is >quite so >certain as we believe. > >As far as I know, the first record of Jacob (whichever of the many >generations of Jacobs he was) is the 1739 baptism of his daughter >Maria >Elisabetha in York Co, Pennsylvania *Lutheran* records. He lived at >Paradise >Township, founded principally by Lutheran and Calvinist families from >the >Palatinate. We can probably accept that he is the same Jacob Howry >who, with >his wife Ursula, were witnesses to a Lutheran baptism in the same >place in >1745. They were granted Letters of Administration for his father Jacob >in >1755. > >It's curious that neither Jacob appears until 1739, about a generation >after >Hans and Ulrich were granted land in 1717 and 1718. We know that Jacob >cannot have been Ulrich's son. Apparently, he also cannot have been >Hans' >son (because Hans had a son Jacob who is otherwise accounted for). The >elder >Jacob (who died before 1755) might have been a brother of Hans and >Ulrich, >which would explain why Ulrich's will implies that he had more than >one >brother. I'm still troubled by this solution, though. > >Hans and Ulrich were Mennonites. Jacob was a Lutheran. In the social >context >of the time, I think that this is very significant. One of the >noticeable >things about our immigrant ancestors is how tenacious they were of >their >religion and their ethnic group until several generations in America - >often >not intermarrying with other religious and ethnic groups until after >the >Revolution. To me, it just "feels wrong" that Jacob would have become >a >Lutheran if he really came from a Mennonite family. It also seems >unlikely >that he would have been a Lutheran if he came from Switzerland. > >As a social background to my concerns, after the Thirty Years War >(1640), >the people of Europe were required to conform to the religion of their >rulers, which was the established church in their area. They were not >allowed to dissent. This is old hat, but I'm not sure that its >connection to >the Howrys has been considered. In Switzerland, the Protestant Cantons >embraced Calvinism. Everyone living in those areas was required to be >a >Calvinist or be punished. Hans the Woolweaver was allowed to leave >Switzerland in 1711 because as a Mennonite he was a truly bad person >in the >eyes of the government and because the government finally just >couldn't cope >with the obstinacy of the Mennonites. Very few places in Europe would >accept >Mennonites, because they were neither Calvinist nor Lutheran (the only >legal >varieties of Protestant). I guess I have a hard time believing that >Jacob >Howry, a Lutheran, came from a Mennonite family and just shrugged off >his >religion just when he got to Pennsylvania and could be a Mennonite in >peace. > >Also, if Jacob came directly from Switzerland, he would have been a >Calvinist, not a Lutheran. The Calvinists who left Switzerland for a >generation or two in other parts of Germany frequently became >Lutherans (if >you're the kind of belong to the established church, there's not much >difference between being a Lutheran and being a Calvinist as long as >you're >still Protestant - not enough difference to fight about anyway). > >So, I suspect that Jacob was the conforming type (and probably his >immediate >ancestors were also conformists). At some undetermined date they left >Calvinist Switzerland, settled in a Lutheran area of Germany - perhaps >the >Palatinate - and then moved on to America as Lutherans . . . and >stayed >Lutherans for another 100 years. They were still Lutherans in Virginia >and >the early generations there married other German Lutherans (not >Mennonites). >They didn't stop being Lutherans until the whole area, irrespective of >ethnic background, abandoned their traditional faiths to become >Baptists. > >I wonder if the elder Jacob was the Jacob (or a descendant of the >Jacob) who >left Hirschthal (a village in Shoeftland parish) in 1696/7. Or perhaps >a >member of the family at Baden. Or perhaps a member of the family >Reinach >(near Schoeftland). Or perhaps . . . > >I'd love to hear contrary views. > > Justin C.S. Howery > Denver, Colorado > jhowery@tde.com > http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Justin, I will share all. Let's wait on GEDCOM, until sometime after I finish uploading my ASCII e-mail files to the List. I am a bit overloaded on PC at present. I think you may get any info' you may want from the e-mail. I have not made a documented link to Hans & Ulrich. I *think* they are part of my family group, and were on the same Switz' ship on the Rhine. Also *think* the family may only have had enough money to ship two members to the USA. The reply is by the list, to share our e-contact w/ others who may have wish to read our mail. I am in Albuquerque, NM. Emil lived in Tucson. I stopped by to see him once, he died a few years ago. See below. fredhaury@juno.com Albuquerque ++++++ The U of AZ State Anthropoloby Museum is named the EMIL HAURY MUSEUM. File: EMIL1904.TXT fredhaury@juno.com Emil Walter6<Gustav 19040502 Newton KS-_Tucson AZ. Anthropology: Bethal Col, U of AZ-AB & MA, Harvard U PhD, Research, Asst Dir Gila Pueblo, Prof', Dept Head, Dir & Adviser AZ State MuseumU AZ Tucson. 1955 Pres ElecAmerican Anthropological Asso, 1956 Pres, 1957 VP, FA Riecker Dist Prof in Ant, Prof Emeritus, Sigma Xi, Phi Kappa Phi, Phi Betta Kappa, Hon LLD UNM, Adviser Universidat de Bogota Columbia SA, Guggenheim Fellow, Viking Fund Medalist, U AZ Alumni Ach & Fac Ach Award, Fac Rec Awd Tucson Trade Bu, Alumni Awd Bethal Col, Salgo-Noren Awd, U AZ Bobcat Hall of Fame, US Dept Int Cons Svc Awd, AV Kidder Awd, ASCA Awd, U AZ Dist Cit Awd, SW Anth Asso Dist Sch Awd, AZ Hist Soc Al Merito Awd. Societies: AAAS Fellow-SAA-AAA Fellow-NAS- APS-NSS. Research: Gila Pueblo-Snaketown- Forestdale AZ-Ventana Cave AZ-Point of Pines-Chibcha Zone Columbia SA-Naco & Lehner Mammoth Kill Sites-Chairman 1955 SAA Seminar-Snaketown restudy-137 Bibliography entries. m-Newton 19280607 Hulda Penner 19040227 Hillsboro KS-_. c-Allan-Loren. >>>>> On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:53:52 -0700 "Justin C.S. Howery" <jhowery@tde.com> writes: As I read your chart, it seems that you are >descended >from Hans the Woolweaver, as are the Pennsylvania Howrys. However, in >your >case, the family either returned to Europe or you descend from a >branch that >didn't come to America. > > Justin C.S. Howery > Denver, Colorado > jhowery@tde.com > http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery > wasn't there a family >Haury >(Emil?) in Alburquerque? An expert on Zuni culture, maybe. >-----Original Message----- >From: fredhaury@juno.com [mailto:fredhaury@juno.com] >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 7:17 AM >To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HOWERY-L] Pedigree Chart > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I'm not going to get any homework done tonight, so I might as well write the third of the messages I've been thinking about for so long. Jacob Howry, the ancestor of the Virginia branch, is generally thought to have been a close relative of Hans and Ulrich. I wonder if that is quite so certain as we believe. As far as I know, the first record of Jacob (whichever of the many generations of Jacobs he was) is the 1739 baptism of his daughter Maria Elisabetha in York Co, Pennsylvania *Lutheran* records. He lived at Paradise Township, founded principally by Lutheran and Calvinist families from the Palatinate. We can probably accept that he is the same Jacob Howry who, with his wife Ursula, were witnesses to a Lutheran baptism in the same place in 1745. They were granted Letters of Administration for his father Jacob in 1755. It's curious that neither Jacob appears until 1739, about a generation after Hans and Ulrich were granted land in 1717 and 1718. We know that Jacob cannot have been Ulrich's son. Apparently, he also cannot have been Hans' son (because Hans had a son Jacob who is otherwise accounted for). The elder Jacob (who died before 1755) might have been a brother of Hans and Ulrich, which would explain why Ulrich's will implies that he had more than one brother. I'm still troubled by this solution, though. Hans and Ulrich were Mennonites. Jacob was a Lutheran. In the social context of the time, I think that this is very significant. One of the noticeable things about our immigrant ancestors is how tenacious they were of their religion and their ethnic group until several generations in America - often not intermarrying with other religious and ethnic groups until after the Revolution. To me, it just "feels wrong" that Jacob would have become a Lutheran if he really came from a Mennonite family. It also seems unlikely that he would have been a Lutheran if he came from Switzerland. As a social background to my concerns, after the Thirty Years War (1640), the people of Europe were required to conform to the religion of their rulers, which was the established church in their area. They were not allowed to dissent. This is old hat, but I'm not sure that its connection to the Howrys has been considered. In Switzerland, the Protestant Cantons embraced Calvinism. Everyone living in those areas was required to be a Calvinist or be punished. Hans the Woolweaver was allowed to leave Switzerland in 1711 because as a Mennonite he was a truly bad person in the eyes of the government and because the government finally just couldn't cope with the obstinacy of the Mennonites. Very few places in Europe would accept Mennonites, because they were neither Calvinist nor Lutheran (the only legal varieties of Protestant). I guess I have a hard time believing that Jacob Howry, a Lutheran, came from a Mennonite family and just shrugged off his religion just when he got to Pennsylvania and could be a Mennonite in peace. Also, if Jacob came directly from Switzerland, he would have been a Calvinist, not a Lutheran. The Calvinists who left Switzerland for a generation or two in other parts of Germany frequently became Lutherans (if you're the kind of belong to the established church, there's not much difference between being a Lutheran and being a Calvinist as long as you're still Protestant - not enough difference to fight about anyway). So, I suspect that Jacob was the conforming type (and probably his immediate ancestors were also conformists). At some undetermined date they left Calvinist Switzerland, settled in a Lutheran area of Germany - perhaps the Palatinate - and then moved on to America as Lutherans . . . and stayed Lutherans for another 100 years. They were still Lutherans in Virginia and the early generations there married other German Lutherans (not Mennonites). They didn't stop being Lutherans until the whole area, irrespective of ethnic background, abandoned their traditional faiths to become Baptists. I wonder if the elder Jacob was the Jacob (or a descendant of the Jacob) who left Hirschthal (a village in Shoeftland parish) in 1696/7. Or perhaps a member of the family at Baden. Or perhaps a member of the family Reinach (near Schoeftland). Or perhaps . . . I'd love to hear contrary views. Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery

After writing about Ulrich at some length, I might as well take a few more minutes and offer my theory about the ancestry of Hans and Ulrich to the list. I think that Hans the Woolweaver was the Hans Hauri, baptized 25 December 1641 at Schoeftland, Aargau, Switzerland. The Aargauisches Staatsarchiv is most insistent that Hans must have come from Schoeftland, where one branch of Hauris were Mennonites. The New Mennonite Encyclopedia says the same and adds that the Hauris and Widmers were two locally prominent Mennonite families. Thanks to the research of Alfred Reichen, a professional genealogist hired by Bertha Newman, the LDS library in Salt Lake has several hundred family group sheets that collectively give a complete picture of the Hauris in Schoeftland from the early 1600s to the late 1800s. Examining these family group sheets, one family stands out. A Hans Hauri, baptized 25 December 1641 at Schoeftland, son of Melcher (Melchior) Hauri and Verena Meyer, married twice. 1st, Anna Maria Schwykon, and 2nd Elsbeth *Widmer*. Significantly, neither marriage is recorded at Schoeftland, which apparently it should have been even if it was solemnized in one of the surrounding communities (other marriages that took place in other communities are recorded). The Mennonites resisted marrying in the established church, so if this Hans was a Mennonite that would explain why his marriages were not recorded. I think it is also significant that his second wife was a Widmer, the family named with the Hauris as being local leaders of the Mennonites. Although Mennonite marriages were not recorded, the government was often able to compel the baptism of Mennonite children into the established church. This Hans Hauri had 6 children. By his 1st wife: Melcher (1672). By his second wife: Hans (1678), Uli (1682), Jacob (1684), Salome (1687), and Hans Ulrich (1694). I think it is signifcant that this family disappears forever from local records after the baptism of the last child. The timing and names are right. Hans could be the Woolweaver. He married a Widmer. He had sons Hans, Jacob, and Hans Ulrich (who, by custom, would have been called simply Ulrich) - although these names are too common to prove much. He disappears from local records about the right time (especially if he lived in Alsace 1707-09, as they say). Lenzburg, the place of origin for the Hans the Woolweaver, is the judicial district that adjoins Schoeftland. If this is the right identification, then the Woolweaver would have been 69 when he left Switzerland in 1711. I think that he probably died in Amsterdam not long after arriving. Hans Jr. would have been 32 (and about 58 when he died in 1737). Ulrich would have 17 when they left Switzerland and only 29 when he died. Because Mennonite men in this generation often married late, I don't see any problem with supposing that Hans Jr. was 32 and unmarried when he left Switzerland with his parents. He probably married Anna shortly afterwards, perhaps before reaching Pennsylvania. Also, if Ulrich also married somewhat late, it would not be surprising that he was childless at 29. Perhaps he was even newly married. I've dabbled with this scenario for many years. I offer it to the list hoping that someone else will pick up on it and either prove or disprove it. Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery

I've been meaning for some time to write to the list about Ulrich Howry. In the messages I exchange with other researchers, I often see him listed as the father of Jacob, as though this were proved or even possible. If you'll indulge me, I'd like to make a few observations. I think that most researchers of the Pennsylvania and Virginia Howrys accept that the Hans who received a grant of land in Lancaster Co, Pennsylvania in 1718 was either the Woolweaver Hans (accepted voluntary exile from Switzerland in 1711 because of his Mennonite faith and emigrated to Amsterdam) or the Woolweaver's son of the same name. Also, I think that most researchers accept that the Hans and Ulrich Howry of Lancaster Co, Pennsylvania were the two unnamed sons of Hans the Woolweaver who travelled with him in 1711. Hans, we agree, left numerous descendants in Lancaster Co, but what happened to Ulrich? Ulrich was granted land at Conestoga in Lancaster Co in 1717 and appears on tax assessments there until 1722, but not in 1723. He made his will on 13 July 1723. The will does not survive, but a short abstract does, filed in Chester Co, Pennsylvania. According to the abstract, Ulrich divided his estate between his wife Barbara and his brethren. To the casual researcher, this is merely interesting information that happens to provide the name of his wife. However, to anyone familiar with the cultural and legal norms of the time, the will does everything but say flat out that Ulrich was childless. To understand why this is so, we have to understand that to our Colonial ancestors (and particularly those from German backgrounds) property was much more rigidly disposed than it is with us. There was a strong bias, both cultural and legal, that real estate belonged to a man's family and the individual owner, in some sense, was merely the current caretaker as representative of the family. A woman brought certain agreed property to a marriage (generally furniture and other movables) and received upon marriage a certain statutory or customary share of her husband's real estate that would be hers no matter what happened. The rest of her husband's estate was his and his family's, not hers. It was thought proper that it pass to his heirs not to his widow. If the couple had children, the widow got her share and his children (his heirs) divided the rest. If the couple was childless (this is the important part), the widow got her share and the husband's brothers (his heirs) got the rest. Ulrich and Barbara must have been childless. She took her share, his brothers divided the rest. Ulrich's will did nothing more than put the custom of the time into writing. If Ulrich had had any children, even if Barbara wasn't their mother, it would have been scandalous for him to leave the balance to his brothers and not to his children. Jacob, ancestor of the Virginia family, cannot have been the son of Ulrich. However, it's interesting that Ulrich had brothers (plural). The only brother we know about was Hans. Could Jacob have been a third brother who did not accompany his father in 1711? Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery

FYI, Cy of e-message received from Jim BRIDGES. Passed on for interested HAURYs. Am sending a Cc: to Jim, to inform him of the HOWERY-L. I hope to see Jim and other HAURY gen' searchers join the list as ACTIVE members. Jim, The list name is HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe to the list: Send an e-mail To: HOWERY-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Subscribe Message: - Leave the message space blank. If you subscribe be sure to post a message to say Hello and let me and the other members know you are with us, and let put & take info' to & from the mail list. fredhaury@juno.com Albuquerque >>>>> File: DAN-1845.TXT --- From: "Jim Bridges" <jimbridg@frontiernet.net> To: "FRED W HAURY" <fredhaury@juno.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:08:36 -0400 Subject: Re: HAURY; DEU / USA / anywhere; anytime Hi, Seek contact with All researchers of HAURY/HAURI surname. I am descendant of HAURY Jakob DEU 1718-1789. Jakob was a Mennonite. His ancestors were Swiss refugees. I am working to expand my HAURY database. Please E-mail descendancy charts, names, Birth, Death, Baptismal & Burial info' on HAURY & those who married into family. Though I am not a Haury descendant, they did marry into some of the Mennonite lines I am following. Here is what I have, along with related text documents. Jim Bridges Begin descendant register report: 1. Daniel Haury born 5 Oct 1845, Maxweiler, Bavaria, Germany, married (1) 9 Mar 1871, Anna Maria Strohm, born 12 Aug 1849, Schwaig Bei Wagenried, Germany, (daughter of Peter Strohm and Barbara Schowalter) died 28 Feb 1884, Halstead, Harvey, KS, married (2) Elizabeth Dester, born 3 Nov 1858, died 11 Jul 1913, Halstead, Harvey, KS. Daniel died 2 Jun 1937, Halstead, Harvey, KS. >From the Mennonite Weekly Review, 8 Jun 1938: "Maximilian I, king of Bavaria, one day in 1800 was traveling through the Rhine Palatinate in Germany. Hearing of the industrious ways of the mennonite farmers who lived there he visited them. They impressed him and he invited eight families to come and live on his land near Neuburg on the Danube River. At Neuburg King Maximilian gave these eight families 240 acres of land. Other families followed to the locality, among them being the John Haury family whose forefathers originally had come to Germany from the French Canton of Switzerland. In appreciation to King Maximilian the Mennonites named the little village they settled "Maxweiler". After several years the residents of Maxweiler wanted a church and so they petitioned Ludwig I, who had succeeded to the throne of Bavaria in 1825 at the death of his father Maximilian I, the right to build one. King Ludwig was as favorably impressed with these people as his father had been and not only gave them permission to build a church of their own in Maxweiler, but said he himself would build them an edifice in which they could worship. On December 9, 1832, the church, built in simple architectural style according to the wishes of the Mennonites, was dedicated. Several years later King Ludwig wished to aid in educating the children of these God-fearing subjects, sent a school teacher to the village whose salary was paid by the government. By 1850 the original eight families who had come to Maxweiler in 1800 had increased to twenty-five families. Rumors of unrest were heard. John Haury, a farmer and member of the Maxweiler Church, fearing that war would come and his sons be forced to take up military service, sold his possessions and with his family sailed for America in 1856. To one of the sons, Daniel Haury, it all seemed like one big adventure. The village of Maxweiler where he had been born on October 3, 1845, lay far behind as the boat carrying his parents, four brothers, and one sister, pushed across the Atlantic to New York City. The trip was one not to be forgotten by the lad, for in mid-ocean he celebrated his eleventh birthday. Arriving in America the elder Haury took his family to Summerfield, Illinois. With a part of the $400, the only money the family had left, the father that fall bought some wheat and a team of oxen. Here at Summerfield the eleven-year-old boy Daniel earned his first money by taking care of a neighbor's baby for which he was paid twenty-five cents a week. His father secured work five miles away from home at seventy-five cents per day, and glad to be earning something for his family, he cheerfully each day walked the distance to and from work. On March 9, 1871, Daniel Haury married Miss Anna Strohm who had come to America when four years old from Eichstock, a sister village of Maxweiler in Bavaria, Germany. She was born on August 11, 1849. The swampy area around Summerfield made malaria a constant danger, so in 1873 Daniel Haury, now twenty-nine years old, with several other men went west on an inspection tour to find a new location for a home. He viewed land in Texas but, finding the land in central Kansas more favorable, Mr. Haury, his wife, two small sons, and his father came to Halstead, Kansas, in the spring of 1875. While Kansas seemed to present better opportunities with its cheap land than Illinois, yet the first year at Halstead tended to be rather disheartening for grasshoppers took nearly all of the crop. But there was no time for discouragement. The days and years of Mr. Haury's pioneer life were busy and significant ones. The sod had to be broken on the land purchased near Halstead, and often to give the horses a rest from the extremely hard work, Mr. Haury would walk to town three miles away to get his plow shares sharpened. He was one of the first farmers in central Kansas to plant Turkey Red Wheat that Bernard Warkentin had been influential in introducing into America from southern Russia. Orchards were begun. Cottonwood and Osage hedges were planted around the orchards to serve as protection to the young fruit trees and along the edges of the fields. Money was scarce and so the pioneering Mr. Haury planted hedge-tree sprouts closely together in rows so that when the trees grew older they would serve as fences in future years. Firebreaks were made by plowing long strips of soil to keep the prairie fires from destroying the pioneer homes. When the Halstead Mennonite Church at Halstead, Kansas, was founded Daniel Haury, his wife Anna Strohm Haury, and his father John Haury became charter members. For thirty years Mr. Haury served as a Sunday school teacher in this church and as deacon for twenty-two years. When the Halstead Church observed the fiftieth year of its founding in 1925 he was one of the four charter members present at the Golden Anniversary celebration. After the death of his first wife in 1884, he married Miss Elizabeth Dewster who passed away on July 11, 1913. Retiring from farming in 1914 Mr. Haury moved to Halstead. Optimistic in temperament, gentle towards others, and a friend to everyone, Mr. Haury was always willing to help his neighbors when they were in need and made it a habit to visit people when they were ill. Staunch in his support of Bethel College he watched with great interest the growth of the institution from the humble Seminary in Halstead, Kansas, to the place the school now holds in Christian higher education where eleven of his sons and daughters and thirteen grandchildren have attended. As a philanthropist he contributed liberally to Christian education and Mennonite missions. Mr. Haury passed to his reward on June 2, 1937, having lived to be ninety-one years old. Shortly before his death he arranged for a gift to the Bethel College Memorial Fund. The sons and daughters of this Kansas pioneer are as follows: Dr. Richard S. Haury of Newton, Kansas; Albert Haury of Hutchinson, Kansas; Carl Haury of Halstead, Kansas; Dr. Paul Haury of Lewiston, Idaho; Mrs. Otto Rupp of Moundridge, Kansas; Mrs. S. F. Langenwalter of Gulfport, Mississippi; and the Misses Bertha Laura, and Irma Haury of Halstead, Kansas. Two sons Edwin J., and Samuel D., preceeded their father Daniel Haury to their reward." Children by Anna Maria Strohm: i Richard Samuel Haury born 27 Sep 1872, Trenton, Clinton, IL, died 16 Mar 1951, Newton, Harvey, KS. 2. ii Edwin John Haury born 4 Mar 1874. iii Albert Peter Haury born 25 Nov 1875, Halstead, Harvey, KS. iv Samuel David Haury born 20 Jul 1877, Halstead, Harvey, KS, died 13 Mar 1906, Halstead, Harvey, KS. v Bertha Sarah Haury born 11 May 1879, Halstead, Harvey, KS, died 9 Jan 1945, Halstead, Harvey, KS. vi Stella Barbara Haury born 31 Jul 1881, Halstead, Harvey, KS. vii Carl Frederick Haury born 5 Sep 1883, Halstead, Harvey, KS. Children by Elizabeth Dester: viii Mary Alma Haury born 11 Mar 1886, Halstead, Harvey, KS, died 2 May 1889, Halstead, Harvey, KS. ix Laura Elka Haury born 9 Oct 1887, Halstead, Harvey, KS. 3. x Ella Esther Haury born 1 Jun 1889. xi Irma Drusilla Haury born 22 Jun 1891, Halstead, Harvey, KS. xii John Henry Haury born 7 Jan 1895, Halstead, Harvey, KS, died 17 Aug 1897, Halstead, Harvey, KS. xiii Paul Gerhardt Haury born 18 Oct 1899, Halstead, Harvey, KS. Second Generation 2. Edwin John Haury born 4 Mar 1874, Trenton, Clinton, IL, married 21 Oct 1908, in Halstead, Harvey, KS, Susanna I. Schmitt, born 21 Sep 1880, Halstead, Harvey, KS, (daughter of Jacob Erwin Schmitt and Elizabeth M. Baer) died 9 Jun 1923, Halstead, Harvey, KS, buried Halstead Cem., Halstead, Harvey, KS. Edwin died 9 Jul 1926, Halstead, Harvey, KS, buried Halstead Cem., Halstead, Harvey, KS. Children: 4. i Orville Ira Haury born 5 Oct 1909. 5. ii Elizabeth Ann Haury born 3 Feb 1911. 6. iii Hilda Emma Haury born 8 Dec 1914. 3. Ella Esther Haury born 1 Jun 1889, Halstead, Harvey, KS, married 28 Dec 1916, Samuel Frederick Langenwalter, born 9 Jan 1891, Halstead, Harvey, KS, (son of Daniel Langenwalter and Christina Schmutz) died 15 Nov 1979, Hesston, Harvey, KS. Ella died 23 Nov 1977, Hesston, Harvey, KS. Children: 7. i Waldo Daniel Langenwalter born 13 Feb 1918. ii Evelyn Elizabeth Langenwalter born 13 Feb 1918. iii Louise Marjorie Langenwalter born 1 Aug 1919. 8. iv Dorothy Ruth Langenwalter born 19 Nov 1927. Third Generation 4. Orville Ira Haury born 5 Oct 1909, Halstead, Harvey, KS, married 25 Apr 1934, in Halstead, Harvey, KS, Lucretia Parker, born 9 May 1911, Wellington, Sumner, KS, (daughter of Ernest Frederick Parker and Margaret Lucretia Winstanley). Children: i Kent Douglas Haury born 13 Oct 1937, Halstead, Harvey, KS. ii Janelle Sue Haury born 5 Jul 1941, Halstead, Harvey, KS. 5. Elizabeth Ann Haury born 3 Feb 1911, Halstead, Harvey, KS, married 18 Aug 1935, in Halstead, Harvey, KS, Floyd E. Roberts, born 20 Oct 1912, Pretty Prairie, Reno, KS, (son of Hugh Roberts and Alva McPheeters). Elizabeth died 15 Mar 1941, Kearney, Buffalo, NE. Children: 9. i Jerry Dean Roberts born 6 Oct 1938. 6. Hilda Emma Haury born 8 Dec 1914, Halstead, Harvey, KS, married 8 Aug 1934, in Halstead, Harvey, KS, Marvin E. Goering, born 4 Oct 1911, Pretty Prairie, Reno, KS, (son of Edward E. Goering and Kate Kaufman). Children: i Jacqueline Jeanne Goering born 26 May 1935, Moundridge, McPherson, KS. ii Gordon Edward Goering born 16 Apr 1937, Moundridge, McPherson, KS. iii Wayne Marvin Goering born 27 May 1942, Moundridge, McPherson, KS. 7. Waldo Daniel Langenwalter born 13 Feb 1918, Newton, Harvey, KS, occupation plumbing business, married 2 Jun 1947, in Leavenworth, Leavenworth, KS, Carol Clara Heer, born 11 Dec 1922, Lebanon, St. Clair, IL, (daughter of Christian Heer and Elizabeth Mary Baer). Children: 10. i Christa Beth Langenwalter born 24 Sep 1948. 11. ii Marsha Sue Langenwalter born 15 Oct 1952. 8. Dorothy Ruth Langenwalter born 19 Nov 1927, married William Dorey, born 11 Dec 1921. Dorothy died Nov 1970. Children: i Ronald Dorey born 31 Oct 1960. ii Elizabeth Dorey born 23 Aug 1964. Fourth Generation 9. Jerry Dean Roberts born 6 Oct 1938, Kearney, Buffalo, NE, married 17 Jun 1961, in Raytown, Jackson, MO, Kay Lee Prelogar, born 21 Apr 1939, Kansas City, Jackson, MO, (daughter of Robert Leonard Prelogar and Virginia Lee Lowe). Children: i Blake Alan Roberts born 30 May 1963, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Harford, MD. ii Kerry Rene Roberts born 8 Mar 1965, Middletown, Butler, OH. 10. Christa Beth Langenwalter born 24 Sep 1948, Gulfport, Harrison, MS, occupation teacher, married 20 Jan 1968, in Gulfport, Harrison, MS, J. Stanley Brown, born 14 Feb 1947, Mentone, DeKalb, AL, (son of Raymond Brown and Mary ______). Children: i Stephen Mathew Brown born 18 Jun 1977, Mentone, DeKalb, AL. alternate birth location of Chattanooga, TN. ii Raymond Lucas Brown born 6 Sep 1982, Mentone, DeKalb, AL. alternate birth location of Chattanooga, TN. iii Abigail Ruth Brown born 30 Sep 1987, Henderson, Vance, NC. 11. Marsha Sue Langenwalter born 15 Oct 1952, Gulfport, Harrison, MS, married 2 Feb 1974, in Gulfport, Harrison, MS, divorced 1977, Charles Thomas Hopkins. Children: i Brent Thomas Hopkins born 13 Nov 1977, Gulfport, Harrison, MS. --- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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Hi Ellen. The only information I have on this family is what I got from you several years ago. However, I show Jacob's parents as Samuel Howrey and Maria Roseboom. I can't tell whether I got that information from you or from someone else. If, instead, Jacob was the son of John George Howry, is this the same John George, of Dearborn Co, Indiana, being researched by Judie Cale Nelson? Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: EScheffl@ix.netcom.com [mailto:EScheffl@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 9:07 PM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOWERY-L] John George Howry/Howery I have been told that I am desended from John George, but have not been able to document this. My line of Howery's: Sarah Ellen Howery, born March 24, 1850, Shelby County Ind. married to John Reid Fox in 1867; died July 3, 1917; Sarah's father: Jacob Howery, born February 11, 1814. Settled in Marion Twp. Shelby County Indiana in 1825. Married to Sarah Elvira Thomas June 23, 1836, Shelby County, In; died Dec 9, 1885. I have been told, but have no documentation of the following: Jacob's (b1814) father was John Howery, born c1778. John's (b c1778) father was Jacob, whose father was Jacob Sr. Jacob Sr.'s father was Ulrich Hauri. Ulrich's father was Hans Hauri. If anyone has any documentation on the parentage of Jacob (born 1814), I certainly would appreciate learning about it. I have some additional information about the Shelby County, IN Howery's, but it will take me some time to dig it out and get it organized. Meantime, if someone has a Shelby County Howery question, let me know and I will see if I can dig and organize a bit faster. Ellen

FYI, A few notes shared w/ me by Shirley. fredhaury@juno.com ------- File: BOOKS924.TXT --From: "Shirley Hulett" <marcompro@hotmail.com> To: fredhaury@juno.com Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:13:22 PST Roger..FYI:.Found all of this online...Including your books Are you related to Author David Haury? Have you read "The Regier and Haury family history?" Shirley TITLE: The Regier and Haury family history : an attempt to tell the history of our forefathers, to portray their character, and to describe the values that guided their lives / AUTHOR(S): Regier, Harold M. (Harold Maurice), 1909- (Main) PUBLISHED: Newton Kan. (1200 E. 7th, Newton 67114) : H.M. Regier, c1988. DESCRIPTION: viii, 261 p. : ill. ; 28 cm. NOTES: Bibliography: p. 243-246. SUBJECTS: Regier family. Haury family. Mennonites--Kansas--Genealogy. Kansas--Genealogy. LC CALL NO.: CS71.R3361988 DEWEY CLASS NO.: 929/.2/0973 ED: 20 FORMAT: Book LCCN: 88-208843 Jakob Haury descendants / by Frederick Wilhelm Haury, Jr Author Haury, Fred W. (Fred Wilhelm), 1923- Library The o State o Historical o Society o of o Wisconsin Library Code SHSW Call Number Historical Society Library Pamphlet Collection 91- 3140 Thomas David descendants / by Fred W. Haury, Jr Author Haury, Fred W. (Fred Wilhelm), 1923 Theo State o Historical o Society o of o Wisconsin Library Code SHSW Call Number Historical Society Library Pamphlet Collection 89- 4350 Guide to the microfilm collections of the Kansas State Historical Society / compiled and edited by David A. Haury Author Kansas State Historical, Library Kansas o City, o Kansas o Pulic o Library Index to Mennonite immigrants on United States passenger lists, 1872-1904 / compiled and edited by David A. Haury Author North o Dakota o State o University Library Code NDSU Call Number INSTITUTE ROOM E184.M45 H38 1986 also at T h e o S t a t e o H i s t o r i c a l o S o c i e t y o o f o W i s c o n s i n Library Code State Historical Society of Wisconsin Call Number Historical Society LibraryPamphlet Collection 87-3042 Guide to the microfilm collections of the Kansas State Historical Society / compiled and edited by David A. Haury Author Kansas State Historical Society. K a n s a s o C i t y , o K a n s a s P u b l i c o L i b r a r y Library Code KCPL The quiet demonstration : the Mennonite mission in Gulfport, Mississippi / David A. Haury Author Haury, David A T h e o S t a t e o H i s t o r i c a l o S o c i e t y o f o W i s c o n s i n Library Code HSW Call Number Historical Society Library Pamphlet Collection 78- 2329 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Shirley, I receive the Rootsweb review, and the Dick Eastman newsletter. I tried the Ancestory daily newsletter which is excellent, but with other e-periodicals that I subscribe to, it overloaded me, so I saved one copy with the subscribe info' for use at a later date. Thanks, information is the key that unlocks a discovery. fredhaury@juno.com Albuquerque ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I have been told that I am desended from John George, but have not been able to document this. My line of Howery's: Sarah Ellen Howery, born March 24, 1850, Shelby County Ind. married to John Reid Fox in 1867; died July 3, 1917; Sarah's father: Jacob Howery, born February 11, 1814. Settled in Marion Twp. Shelby County Indiana in 1825. Married to Sarah Elvira Thomas June 23, 1836, Shelby County, In; died Dec 9, 1885. I have been told, but have no documentation of the following: Jacob's (b1814) father was John Howery, born c1778. John's (b c1778) father was Jacob, whose father was Jacob Sr. Jacob Sr.'s father was Ulrich Hauri. Ulrich's father was Hans Hauri. If anyone has any documentation on the parentage of Jacob (born 1814), I certainly would appreciate learning about it. I have some additional information about the Shelby County, IN Howery's, but it will take me some time to dig it out and get it organized. Meantime, if someone has a Shelby County Howery question, let me know and I will see if I can dig and organize a bit faster. Ellen

Yep, there's an archive for this list and the other surname mailing lists supported by Rootsweb. You can find the archive at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl On the first screen, enter the name of the list (either howery or howery-l should work). On the second screen, enter the words to search for. I think that asking new members to send a message to the list with an outline of their Hauri (etc.) descent is a great idea. Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: fredhaury@juno.com [mailto:fredhaury@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 8:48 AM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOWERY-L] HAURY Hi Shirley, & All, I am using the list to reply. Normally I avoid sending this type of answer by a mail list, but I want to liven it up a bit, and also make my presence known to others, and promise to contribute (as time goes by) some HAURY, HAURI, HOWERY, & Other HAURY info' to the common group data. I have notified my HAURY family members and other HAURY e-mail users of the list, and hope that they join. Any who may join should Log On (post a message) to let other list members know that they are new members. ?Does the List have an Archive that I may visit to review & obtain past postings? Shirley, I received your other messages & will respond to them as appropriate with separate messages or comments. I expect part of our e-mail can be exchanged via the list, since much of it relates to HAURY info' which could interest other list members. Hi Bonnie, & Hi Amelia, I have some HOWERY info' that I will post to the list in days to come that may be of interest. It may take me some time to dig it out & prepare for submission. I only have e-mail at present, and am not on the internet, so I can't visit WEBSITES or receive e-mail attachments. Fred HAURY Albuquerque, NM fredhaury@juno.com --- ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html.

Phil, From a faulty memory I think Hans & Ulrich departed aboard ship on the Rhine from Switzerland with their father Hans and other Mennonites. At each stop in Germany that would accept immigrants, some deboarded. At Amstradam, Hans & Ulrich deboarded with other accepted immigrants. Later to obtain passage to America. The ship headed back upstream to find new homeplaces for the remaining Mennonites on board. Jakob may have deboarded at Hamm. Edward Bowman Espenshade's book may contain more on Hans & Ulrich. Some may be contained in my future posts to the mail list. SignOff 4 today, Fred >>>>>> PARTIAL RERUN OF Clemant HAURY letter: File: CLEMEN82.TXT /COPY of Clement A. HAURY letter./ December 2, 1982 Woodlake, CA 93286 37837 Road 200 Notes from "My American Ancestors & Their Descendants" & other sources by Edward Bowman Espenshade Copyright Aug1949, printed by Jay Letter Service in Chicago IL 1. Meaning & Origin of Name. The Hauris came from Switzerland. Name is of Germanic origin. Die Deutschen Families Namen defines the name as "ein uber lauter Mensh (sudd)" translated as "an ever loud man" or "a high spirited person". The "American Germaica" Vol 4 1902, published an article written by Dr. Oscar Kuhns, Studies in "German Family Names" page 306, explains: the name Hauri has 2-stems, Hug & Hart. Hug means mind, spirit. Dr. Kuns neglects to define "hart", it may be defined as hard, sharp, or severe, thus a high minded or high spirited person. Anglicising Hauri, the "au" becomes "ow" or "ou" & "ri" becomes 'ry". Howry is the most prevalent today & is the form used in this book except for the first & second generations which are called Hauri. Early assessment lists have spelled the name Haure, Hauerich, HAURY, Howery, Howrey. The first US census (1790) lists them as Hourey. Lancaster Court House records are indexed as Howry. 2. The Howry Cemetery. There is a cemetery which is enclosed by a substantial rubble wall with the inscription on its east face; Built by John Howery's Heirs-- Samuel King, builder--1843. The Howry cemetery is located about 1/2-mile north of the borough of Strasburg on North Decator Street extended (Jenkintown PA.?) 3. Other Howrys: Charles Bowen Howry, son of Judge Howry, was born in Oxford, MS. His relation to Lancaster Co. PA Howrys is believed to be as descendent of Ulrich Hauri who had moved to VA & whose descendants married with the Bowens. Both Bowens & Howrys had descendants in that state who participated in the American Revolution. These descendants of various names engaged in slavery. Later they moved to TN & MS. The Howrys, relatively few in number are quite widely distributed & of diverse political & religious affiliations. Additional notes in letter from Anne Howry. (from above book): Hans Hauri a wool weaver, his wife & 2-sons from northern Switzerland moved to Germany, then in 1711 to Holland. An Ulrich Hauri arrived in America in about 1711 & a Hans Hauri in 1717. These may have been the sons of the other Hans Hauri. The children of the younger Hans, Frena, Elizabeth, Jacob, Ann & Johannes settled in PA. The book traces about 9-generations. /end of copy of Clement A HAURY letter/. >>>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:22:11 -0600 "Phil Howry" <phil@texas.net> writes: >Fred, >It has been surmised from my sources that I came through Jacob Howry >Sr. b. >1741 Penn. d.1809 Virginia the son of either Hans or Ulrich Hauri who >came >to America between 1695 & 1715 from Switzerland. >There seems to be some interesting connections to your listings. >phil ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Fred, It has been surmised from my sources that I came through Jacob Howry Sr. b. 1741 Penn. d.1809 Virginia the son of either Hans or Ulrich Hauri who came to America between 1695 & 1715 from Switzerland. There seems to be some interesting connections to your listings. phil -----Original Message----- From: fredhaury@juno.com <fredhaury@juno.com> To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com <HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 8:19 AM Subject: [HOWERY-L] Pedigree Chart >FYI, > Below is a compressed copy of my father's pedigree chart. > If the columns on your e-mail reader, editor or word processor do not >line up, or the lines break: Try resetting your page to handle 75 >columns/line, and Font to 10 cpi Courier, Non-proportional. > >PEDIGREE CHART 5 Dec 1997 >Frederick Wilhelm HAURY 1877-1950 > >===RIN list > |Hans HAURY wool weaver-1304 > |Jakob HAURY A-1305 > |Jakob HAURY rev-1 > |CHRISTIAN HAURY farmer-3 > | |KATHRINA WIDOW STAUFFER SCHMIDT-2 > |HEINRICH HAURY farmer-13 > | |Katharina WOHLGEMUTH-6 > |HEINRICH HAURY baker-23 > | | |MAXIMILIAN FINCK-1647 > | | |KONRAD FINCK-1649 > | | | |Elisabeth ORTH-1648 > | |PHILIPPINA FINCK-21 > | | |Philipp KUNDEL-1653 > | |SUSANNE Margaretha KUNDEL-1650 > | |Maria Barbara NERBER-1654 >FREDERICK Wilhelm HAURY doctor/opt.-34 > | |Wilhelm SCHAAFF-1806 > |Magdalena Christina SCHAAFF-30 > | |Engelberth ZINCKGR-F pharmacist-1848 > | |Theobald Paul ZINCKGR-F cooper-1843 > | | |Anna Elisabetha BIBESHEIMER-1849 > | |Johann Christofel ZINCKGRAFF baker-1839 > | | | |Wendel WAIDMANN-1893 > | | | |Leonhard WEIDMANN-1885 > | | | | |Ottilia-1894 > | | | |Hans Conradt WIEDEMANN-1871 > | | | | |Wife-1886 > | | | |Wendel WIEDEMANN cooper-1857 > | | | | |Gertrud-1872 > | | | |Johannes WIEDEMANN mayor-1850 > | | | | |Anna Maria-1858 > | | |Anna Margaretha WIEDEMANN-1844 > | | | |Friedrich MEURER mayor-1895 > | | | |Jacob Friedrich MEURER-1887 > | | | |Odo Christoph MEURER-1873 > | | | | |Wife-1888 > | | | |Jerg Christoph MEURER-1859 > | | | | |Wife-1874 > | | |Anna Elisabeth MEURER-1851 > | | | |Erasmus Oswald SCHRECKENFUCHS p-1896 > | | | |Johann Oswald SCHRECKENFUCHS md-1889 > | | | |Erasmus Oswalt SCHRECKENFUCHS md-1875 > | | | | |Christiana KOLLENBURG-1890 > | | |Anna Christina SCHRECKENFUCHS-1860 > | | |Wife-1876 > | |Johann Jacob ZINCKGR-FF baker-1835 > | | |Anna Elisabetha WEINTZ-1840 > | |Johann Wilhelm ZINCKGRAFF bb-1808 > | | | |Peter NAUHEIMER-1877 > | | | |Peter NAUHEIMER town counciler-1861 > | | | | |Wife-1878 > | | | |Johann Michael NAUHEIMER lawyer-1852 > | | | | |Anna Maria-1863 > | | | |Johannes NAUMER cooper-1845 > | | | | | |Wolff FERKEL town counciler-1891 > | | | | | |Hans FERCKEL mayor-1879 > | | | | | |Niclas FERCKEL town counciler-1864 > | | | | | | |Wife-1880 > | | | | |Anna Margaretha FERCKEL-1853 > | | | | |Catharina-1866 > | | | |Philipp Jacob NAUMER cooper-1841 > | | | | | |Nicklas KIEFER citizen-1892 > | | | | | |Paulus KIEFER town counciler-1881 > | | | | | |Hans Vallentin KIEFER tc-1867 > | | | | | | |Barbara-1883 > | | | | | |Johannes KIEFER gemeinsmann-1854 > | | | | | | |Anna Barbara-1868 > | | | | |Maria Margaretha (Anna) KIEFER-1847 > | | | | | |Johannes LENGENFELDER lawyer-1869 > | | | | |Anna Margaretha LENGENFELDER-1856 > | | | | |Anna Margaretha-1870 > | | |Anna Helena NAUMER-1836 > | | |Susanna Christina LENGENFELDER-1842 > |Magdalena ZINCKGRAFF-1807 > | |Johann Conrad EHRENPREIS wg-1837 > |Christina Ottilia EHRENPREIS-1809 > |Anna (Agnes) Dorothea WEINTZ-1838 >=== >DATE list > 7-Hans HAURY wool weaver _-1724 > 6-Jakob HAURY A _-1737 > 5-Jakob HAURY rev 1718-1789 > 4-CHRISTIAN HAURY farmer 1747-1823 > | 5-KATHRINA WIDOW STAUFFER SCHMIDT 1715-1773 > 3-HEINRICH HAURY farmer 1792-1860 > | 4-Katharina WOHLGEMUTH 1760-1833 > 2-HEINRICH HAURY baker 1835-1905 > | | 5-MAXIMILIAN FINCK 1735-_ > | | 4-KONRAD FINCK 1761-_ > | | | 5-Elisabeth ORTH _ > | 3-PHILIPPINA FINCK 1806-1873 > | | 5-Philipp KUNDEL _ > | 4-SUSANNE Margaretha KUNDEL 1768-1836 > | 5-Maria Barbara NERBER _ >1-FREDERICK Wilhelm HAURY doctor opt 1877-1950 > | 3-Wilhelm SCHAAFF 1808-1860 > 2-Magdalena Christina SCHAAFF 1841-1880 > | 8-Engelberth ZINCKGR-F pharmacist _-1679 > | 7-Theobald Paul ZINCKGR-F cooper 1674-1734 > | | 8-Anna Elisabetha BIBESHEIMER 1630-1705 > | 6-Johann Christofel ZINCKGRAFF baker 1705-1766 > | | | 12-Andres Wendel WAIDMANN _-1578 > | | | 11-Leonhard WEIDMANN _-1680 > | | | 12-Ottilia?/Eva? ? _-1585 (from Bergzabern) > | | | 10-Hans Conradt WIEDEMANN _-1626 > | | | | 11- ? _=_ > | | | 9-Wendel WIEDEMANN cooper _-1690 > | | | | 10-Gertrud ? _ > | | | 8-Johannes WIEDEMANN mayor 1638-1716 > | | | | 9-Anna Maria ? _-1763 > | | 7-Anna Margaretha WIEDEMANN 1682-1754 > | | | 12-Friedrich MEURER mayor _-1573 > | | | 11-Jacob Friedrich MEURER _-1573 > | | | 10-Odo Christoph MEURER _-1627 > | | | | 11-Wife _-1576 > | | | 9-Jerg Christoph MEURER _-1651 > | | | 10- ? _-1613 > | | 8-Anna Elisabeth MEURER 1638-1696 > | | | 12-Erasmus Oswald SCHRECKENFUCHS p 1511-1575 > | | | 11-Johann Oswald SCHRECKENFUCHS md _-1612 > | | | 10-Erasmus Oswalt SCHRECKENFUCHS md _-1634 > | | | 11-Christiana KOLLENBURG _-1594 > | | 9-Anna Christina SCHRECKENFUCHS _-1638 > | | 10-Wife _-1625 > | 5-Johann Jacob ZINCKGR-FF baker 1734-1795 > | | 6-Anna Elisabetha WEINTZ 1706-1782 > | 4-Johann Wilhelm ZINCKGRAFF bb 1765-_ > | | | 10-Peter NAUHEIMER _ > | | | 9-Peter NAUHEIMER town counciler _-1655 > | | | | 10-Wife _ > | | | 8-Johann Michael NAUHEIMER lawyer 1637-1707 > | | | | 9-Anna Maria _-1655 > | | | 7-Johannes NAUMER cooper 1680-1746 > | | | | | 11-Wolff FERKEL town counciler _-1584 > | | | | | 10-Hans FERCKEL mayor _-1632 > | | | | | 9-Niclas FERCKEL town counciler _-1665 > | | | | | | 10-Wife _-1605 > | | | | 8-Anna Margaretha FERCKEL 1641-1700 > | | | | 9-Catharina ? _-1665 > | | | 6-Philipp Jacob NAUMER cooper 1721-1766 > | | | | | 11-Nicklas KIEFER citizen _ > | | | | | 10-Paulus KIEFER town counciler _-1678 > | | | | | 9-Hans Vallentin KIEFER tc 1637-1694 > | | | | | | 0-Barbara _-1670 > | | | | | 8-Johannes KIEFER gemeinsmann _-1720 > | | | | | | 9-Anna Barbara 1638-_ > | | | | 7-Maria Margaretha (Anna) KIEFER 1699-1750 > | | | | | 9-Johannes LENGENFELDER lawyer 1638-1691 > | | | | 8-Anna Margaretha LENGENFELDER _-1724 > | | | | 9-Anna Margaretha 1649-1694 > | | 5-Anna Helena NAUMER 1744-1799 > | | 6-Susanna Christina LENGENFELDER 1720-_ > 3-Magdalena ZINCKGRAFF 1813-1884 > | 5-Johann Conrad EHRENPREIS wg 1747-1795 > 4-Christina Ottilia EHRENPREIS 1777-_ > 5-Anna (Agnes) Dorothea WEINTZ 1747-1794 >=== > > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >

FYI, Below is a compressed copy of my father's pedigree chart. If the columns on your e-mail reader, editor or word processor do not line up, or the lines break: Try resetting your page to handle 75 columns/line, and Font to 10 cpi Courier, Non-proportional. PEDIGREE CHART 5 Dec 1997 Frederick Wilhelm HAURY 1877-1950 ===RIN list |Hans HAURY wool weaver-1304 |Jakob HAURY A-1305 |Jakob HAURY rev-1 |CHRISTIAN HAURY farmer-3 | |KATHRINA WIDOW STAUFFER SCHMIDT-2 |HEINRICH HAURY farmer-13 | |Katharina WOHLGEMUTH-6 |HEINRICH HAURY baker-23 | | |MAXIMILIAN FINCK-1647 | | |KONRAD FINCK-1649 | | | |Elisabeth ORTH-1648 | |PHILIPPINA FINCK-21 | | |Philipp KUNDEL-1653 | |SUSANNE Margaretha KUNDEL-1650 | |Maria Barbara NERBER-1654 FREDERICK Wilhelm HAURY doctor/opt.-34 | |Wilhelm SCHAAFF-1806 |Magdalena Christina SCHAAFF-30 | |Engelberth ZINCKGR-F pharmacist-1848 | |Theobald Paul ZINCKGR-F cooper-1843 | | |Anna Elisabetha BIBESHEIMER-1849 | |Johann Christofel ZINCKGRAFF baker-1839 | | | |Wendel WAIDMANN-1893 | | | |Leonhard WEIDMANN-1885 | | | | |Ottilia-1894 | | | |Hans Conradt WIEDEMANN-1871 | | | | |Wife-1886 | | | |Wendel WIEDEMANN cooper-1857 | | | | |Gertrud-1872 | | | |Johannes WIEDEMANN mayor-1850 | | | | |Anna Maria-1858 | | |Anna Margaretha WIEDEMANN-1844 | | | |Friedrich MEURER mayor-1895 | | | |Jacob Friedrich MEURER-1887 | | | |Odo Christoph MEURER-1873 | | | | |Wife-1888 | | | |Jerg Christoph MEURER-1859 | | | | |Wife-1874 | | |Anna Elisabeth MEURER-1851 | | | |Erasmus Oswald SCHRECKENFUCHS p-1896 | | | |Johann Oswald SCHRECKENFUCHS md-1889 | | | |Erasmus Oswalt SCHRECKENFUCHS md-1875 | | | | |Christiana KOLLENBURG-1890 | | |Anna Christina SCHRECKENFUCHS-1860 | | |Wife-1876 | |Johann Jacob ZINCKGR-FF baker-1835 | | |Anna Elisabetha WEINTZ-1840 | |Johann Wilhelm ZINCKGRAFF bb-1808 | | | |Peter NAUHEIMER-1877 | | | |Peter NAUHEIMER town counciler-1861 | | | | |Wife-1878 | | | |Johann Michael NAUHEIMER lawyer-1852 | | | | |Anna Maria-1863 | | | |Johannes NAUMER cooper-1845 | | | | | |Wolff FERKEL town counciler-1891 | | | | | |Hans FERCKEL mayor-1879 | | | | | |Niclas FERCKEL town counciler-1864 | | | | | | |Wife-1880 | | | | |Anna Margaretha FERCKEL-1853 | | | | |Catharina-1866 | | | |Philipp Jacob NAUMER cooper-1841 | | | | | |Nicklas KIEFER citizen-1892 | | | | | |Paulus KIEFER town counciler-1881 | | | | | |Hans Vallentin KIEFER tc-1867 | | | | | | |Barbara-1883 | | | | | |Johannes KIEFER gemeinsmann-1854 | | | | | | |Anna Barbara-1868 | | | | |Maria Margaretha (Anna) KIEFER-1847 | | | | | |Johannes LENGENFELDER lawyer-1869 | | | | |Anna Margaretha LENGENFELDER-1856 | | | | |Anna Margaretha-1870 | | |Anna Helena NAUMER-1836 | | |Susanna Christina LENGENFELDER-1842 |Magdalena ZINCKGRAFF-1807 | |Johann Conrad EHRENPREIS wg-1837 |Christina Ottilia EHRENPREIS-1809 |Anna (Agnes) Dorothea WEINTZ-1838 === DATE list 7-Hans HAURY wool weaver _-1724 6-Jakob HAURY A _-1737 5-Jakob HAURY rev 1718-1789 4-CHRISTIAN HAURY farmer 1747-1823 | 5-KATHRINA WIDOW STAUFFER SCHMIDT 1715-1773 3-HEINRICH HAURY farmer 1792-1860 | 4-Katharina WOHLGEMUTH 1760-1833 2-HEINRICH HAURY baker 1835-1905 | | 5-MAXIMILIAN FINCK 1735-_ | | 4-KONRAD FINCK 1761-_ | | | 5-Elisabeth ORTH _ | 3-PHILIPPINA FINCK 1806-1873 | | 5-Philipp KUNDEL _ | 4-SUSANNE Margaretha KUNDEL 1768-1836 | 5-Maria Barbara NERBER _ 1-FREDERICK Wilhelm HAURY doctor opt 1877-1950 | 3-Wilhelm SCHAAFF 1808-1860 2-Magdalena Christina SCHAAFF 1841-1880 | 8-Engelberth ZINCKGR-F pharmacist _-1679 | 7-Theobald Paul ZINCKGR-F cooper 1674-1734 | | 8-Anna Elisabetha BIBESHEIMER 1630-1705 | 6-Johann Christofel ZINCKGRAFF baker 1705-1766 | | | 12-Andres Wendel WAIDMANN _-1578 | | | 11-Leonhard WEIDMANN _-1680 | | | 12-Ottilia?/Eva? ? _-1585 (from Bergzabern) | | | 10-Hans Conradt WIEDEMANN _-1626 | | | | 11- ? _=_ | | | 9-Wendel WIEDEMANN cooper _-1690 | | | | 10-Gertrud ? _ | | | 8-Johannes WIEDEMANN mayor 1638-1716 | | | | 9-Anna Maria ? _-1763 | | 7-Anna Margaretha WIEDEMANN 1682-1754 | | | 12-Friedrich MEURER mayor _-1573 | | | 11-Jacob Friedrich MEURER _-1573 | | | 10-Odo Christoph MEURER _-1627 | | | | 11-Wife _-1576 | | | 9-Jerg Christoph MEURER _-1651 | | | 10- ? _-1613 | | 8-Anna Elisabeth MEURER 1638-1696 | | | 12-Erasmus Oswald SCHRECKENFUCHS p 1511-1575 | | | 11-Johann Oswald SCHRECKENFUCHS md _-1612 | | | 10-Erasmus Oswalt SCHRECKENFUCHS md _-1634 | | | 11-Christiana KOLLENBURG _-1594 | | 9-Anna Christina SCHRECKENFUCHS _-1638 | | 10-Wife _-1625 | 5-Johann Jacob ZINCKGR-FF baker 1734-1795 | | 6-Anna Elisabetha WEINTZ 1706-1782 | 4-Johann Wilhelm ZINCKGRAFF bb 1765-_ | | | 10-Peter NAUHEIMER _ | | | 9-Peter NAUHEIMER town counciler _-1655 | | | | 10-Wife _ | | | 8-Johann Michael NAUHEIMER lawyer 1637-1707 | | | | 9-Anna Maria _-1655 | | | 7-Johannes NAUMER cooper 1680-1746 | | | | | 11-Wolff FERKEL town counciler _-1584 | | | | | 10-Hans FERCKEL mayor _-1632 | | | | | 9-Niclas FERCKEL town counciler _-1665 | | | | | | 10-Wife _-1605 | | | | 8-Anna Margaretha FERCKEL 1641-1700 | | | | 9-Catharina ? _-1665 | | | 6-Philipp Jacob NAUMER cooper 1721-1766 | | | | | 11-Nicklas KIEFER citizen _ | | | | | 10-Paulus KIEFER town counciler _-1678 | | | | | 9-Hans Vallentin KIEFER tc 1637-1694 | | | | | | 0-Barbara _-1670 | | | | | 8-Johannes KIEFER gemeinsmann _-1720 | | | | | | 9-Anna Barbara 1638-_ | | | | 7-Maria Margaretha (Anna) KIEFER 1699-1750 | | | | | 9-Johannes LENGENFELDER lawyer 1638-1691 | | | | 8-Anna Margaretha LENGENFELDER _-1724 | | | | 9-Anna Margaretha 1649-1694 | | 5-Anna Helena NAUMER 1744-1799 | | 6-Susanna Christina LENGENFELDER 1720-_ 3-Magdalena ZINCKGRAFF 1813-1884 | 5-Johann Conrad EHRENPREIS wg 1747-1795 4-Christina Ottilia EHRENPREIS 1777-_ 5-Anna (Agnes) Dorothea WEINTZ 1747-1794 === ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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I'm sorry, but all my info. comes from Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma and Texas phil howry austin, texas -----Original Message----- From: kashmir <kashmir@potlatch.com> To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com <HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 9:38 AM Subject: [HOWERY-L] John George Howry/Howery >I'm looking for any information on a John George Howry/Howery, possibly born in >VA, then went west to Dearborn Co, IN, maybe by way of Butler Co. OH. He bought >land in Dearborn in 1818, was on the 1820 and 1830 census there. By 11-1830, he >was apparently in the Dearborn Co. jail, until at least 1833. > >His wife was Susan, a Swiss immigrant. By 1840, Susan was head of household in >Dearborn Co., also listed in 1850 same location. > >They had at least 8 children including Daniel, John (moved to Iowa 1853), Mary, >Samuel(moved to Lynn Co. KS 1857) and possibly a Susan. > >My ancestor, Elizabeth B.? Howry, b. 12 Dec. 1819, m. 12 Dec 1836 Philip Jacob >Cale in Dearborn Co. IN, on the 1840 census in Ripley Co. IN, was in Morgan Co. >IN by 1847, then moved to Carver Co. MN 1856. 1874 married 2) Johann Jacob >Baumez and moved to Barnes Co. Dakota Territory, 1895 to Baker Co. OR. I think >her father was John George Howery of Dearborn Co. IN. > >Does this sound familiar to anyone? > >Judie Cale Nelson > >

Thanks for the information. phil howry austin, texas -----Original Message----- From: Amelia Davisson <davisson@olympus.net> To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com <HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 12:43 AM Subject: [HOWERY-L] Roll Call :) >Hello! Here is my direct line of HOWRYs: > >John HOWRY b. Germany; m. Catherine ____ >. David H. HOWRY b. 15 Sep 1812 Ross Co., OH > m. Elizabeth KENNEDY 22 Dec 1836 Ross Co., OH > d. 2 Jan 1888 Powersville, Putnam Co., OH >. . John HOWRY b. 6 May 1839 Chillicothe, Ross Co., OH > 1m. Sarah Ann LAUDERBAUGH 15 Nov 1857 Powersville, Putnam Co., MO > 2m. Emma CARLTON Nov 1897 > d. 11 Feb 1919 Powersville, Putnam Co., MO >. . . Rolly HOWRY b. 26 Sep 1858 Putnam Co., MO > m. Mary CRAWFORD 12 Oct 1879 Unionville, Putnam Co., MO > d. 4 Jan 1949 Boise, Ada Co., ID >. . . . Elsie Zona HOWRY b. 19 Nov 1887 Powersville, Putnam Co., MO > m. Robert Brackett PEER 24 Jun 1905 Boise, Ada Co., ID > d. 2 Jan 1967 Orofino, Clearwater Co., ID > >Elsie Zona HOWRY PEER is my great-grandmother. > >Take care! > >-- Amelia Reimer-Davisson > >