Justin, Good article. Do you have more to share on Coat of Arms? Can you post the German article for our files? Fred --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: "Justin C.S. Howery" <jhowery@tde.com> To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOWERY-L] Coat of arms Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:29:43 -0600 If anyone is interested in the "real" Hauri coat of arms: it is probably Azure a dove volant Argent beaked and legged Gules [blue shield, white dove flying facing left, red beak and legs]. These are the arms used about 1415 by one of the Canons Regular at the Collegiate Church of Beromuenster. The Beromuenster Hauris were the original stem-family of the Hauris at Sursee, Reinach, and Schoeftland, and probably also of the Hauris elsewhere in Canton Aargau. There is a beautiful illustration of these arms in the Liber Vitae of Beromuenster (a book in which the church recorded the names of those for whom the Canons said annual prayers of remembrance). Unlike many other European countries, the Swiss did not associate coats of arms only with the nobility. Almost every burgher family had a coat of arms (which is still true today). Every official of any sort had to have a coat of arms for use on his official seal. For the Hauris, there are quite a few variations of the above coat of arms as used by different descendants of the Beromuenster family in their various capacities over the centuries. Most of the variations have a blue shield, a white dove, and generally a few other objects (often a millrind, in allusion the the Hauri's traditional occupation of miller). As an interesting sidelight, I have a copy of an article (in German) that argues that the dove used by the Hauris was originally a gamecock (fighting rooster with his comb and wattle cut off) and that the arms were a visual pun on the name Hauri (= a too loud person). According to the article, poor draghtsmanship accounts for the rooster being turned into a dove over the course of successive drawings. I'm no authority on birds, but there might be some truth to this. When I showed my aunt the picture from the Liber Vitae she asked why in the world the coat of arms is a chicken. I then had the pleasure of explaining that it only looks like a chicken :) Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: S J Hulett [mailto:marcompro@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 1:00 AM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOWERY-L] Data from "JAKOB HAURY DESCENDANTS" book. FRED re Coats of Arms...Suggest anyone receiving anything from Halberts or anything relating to genealogy from Bath Ohio should be wary. These folks are Charletans and are operating under many names.. it would be more profitable to flush your money down the toilet than to mail it to them! Shirley --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello Fred and Shirley, The Coat of Arms of the Haury Family - from what I'm reading, there may be more than one. A previous email had a description, but I'm having a difficult time trying to visualize it. Does anyone out there have pictures of these Coats of Arms? If so, could I/We be directed, maybe to a web site, so that it could be viewed? Let me know.... William Haury RedHorse@gbso.net HO>FRED HO>re Coats of Arms...Suggest anyone receiving anything from Halberts or HO>anything relating to genealogy from Bath Ohio should be wary. These HO>folks are Charletans and are operating under many names.. it would be HO>more profitable to flush your money down the toilet than to mail it to HO>them! HO>Shirley HO>>>Two copies of a "HAURY" HO>coat of arms, prepared by Halberts, 3687 Ira Road, Bath, Ohio 44210, HO>exist. HO>___________________________________________________________________ HO>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. HO>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html HO>or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Thanks Judie, The 1850 Randolph Co., IN census should tell us where Joesph and James Howery were born. Might lead us to where we will find Samuel in an 1800/1810 census and have a look at just how many 'youngins' he had. Sammie

If anyone is interested in the "real" Hauri coat of arms: it is probably Azure a dove volant Argent beaked and legged Gules [blue shield, white dove flying facing left, red beak and legs]. These are the arms used about 1415 by one of the Canons Regular at the Collegiate Church of Beromuenster. The Beromuenster Hauris were the original stem-family of the Hauris at Sursee, Reinach, and Schoeftland, and probably also of the Hauris elsewhere in Canton Aargau. There is a beautiful illustration of these arms in the Liber Vitae of Beromuenster (a book in which the church recorded the names of those for whom the Canons said annual prayers of remembrance). Unlike many other European countries, the Swiss did not associate coats of arms only with the nobility. Almost every burgher family had a coat of arms (which is still true today). Every official of any sort had to have a coat of arms for use on his official seal. For the Hauris, there are quite a few variations of the above coat of arms as used by different descendants of the Beromuenster family in their various capacities over the centuries. Most of the variations have a blue shield, a white dove, and generally a few other objects (often a millrind, in allusion the the Hauri's traditional occupation of miller). As an interesting sidelight, I have a copy of an article (in German) that argues that the dove used by the Hauris was originally a gamecock (fighting rooster with his comb and wattle cut off) and that the arms were a visual pun on the name Hauri (= a too loud person). According to the article, poor draghtsmanship accounts for the rooster being turned into a dove over the course of successive drawings. I'm no authority on birds, but there might be some truth to this. When I showed my aunt the picture from the Liber Vitae she asked why in the world the coat of arms is a chicken. I then had the pleasure of explaining that it only looks like a chicken :) Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: S J Hulett [mailto:marcompro@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 1:00 AM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOWERY-L] Data from "JAKOB HAURY DESCENDANTS" book. FRED re Coats of Arms...Suggest anyone receiving anything from Halberts or anything relating to genealogy from Bath Ohio should be wary. These folks are Charletans and are operating under many names.. it would be more profitable to flush your money down the toilet than to mail it to them! Shirley >>Two copies of a "HAURY" coat of arms, prepared by Halberts, 3687 Ira Road, Bath, Ohio 44210, exist. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Sammie Leap and all, I have Joseph Howery born 1803 and James Howery born 1805, both are on the 1850 Randolph Co. IN census. Judie Cale Nelson

Phil Howry (of this list) recently sent me some notes from Edward Howrey (of Howrey & Simon fame - the DC law firm). I don't know how reliable Ed's information was but he lists James, John, and Joseph as children of Samuel's first marriage. However, he calls their mother Sarah. He also guesses that Samuel was son of Jacob Howry and Susannah Wax. I'm curious about the source for the name Sarah as a wife of Samuel. Was Edward Howrey confused or did he have additional information that we don't have? Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: Max and Sammie Leap [mailto:thewoods@yuba1.yubacoe.k12.ca.us] Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 3:53 PM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOWERY-L] Shelby Co., IN Marriages Thanks Larry for responding and happy to see you on the Howery list. IN the past no one was able to answer my question "Did Samuel and Mary Sifford have children?". Would you happen to have any vitals on Joseph and John such as birth dates, etc? Were there other children that you know of? Sorry to be a pest. Sammie HawxSakQBs@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Sammie, > > You are correct in that Joseph and James were sons of Samuel HOWERY and Mary > SIFFORD. Joseph, who was married to Lodema KINSLEY/KINGSLEY, settled in > Blackhawk County, Iowa and James, who was married to Louisa KINSLEY/KINGSLEY, > settled in Gentry County, Missouri. > > Larry E. Warren

Shirley, You are absolutely right about Halberts. We sent for our Leap coat of arms and my Father sent for our Ivey coat of arms many years ago. They were identical. I now know that the Leap's nor the Ivey's ever had a coat of arms! So I concure, don't waste you money on 'them' folks. Sammie S J Hulett wrote: > > FRED > re Coats of Arms...Suggest anyone receiving anything from Halberts or > anything relating to genealogy from Bath Ohio should be wary. These > folks are Charletans and are operating under many names.. it would be > more profitable to flush your money down the toilet than to mail it to > them! > Shirley

Thanks Larry for responding and happy to see you on the Howery list. IN the past no one was able to answer my question "Did Samuel and Mary Sifford have children?". Would you happen to have any vitals on Joseph and John such as birth dates, etc? Were there other children that you know of? Sorry to be a pest. Sammie HawxSakQBs@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Sammie, > > You are correct in that Joseph and James were sons of Samuel HOWERY and Mary > SIFFORD. Joseph, who was married to Lodema KINSLEY/KINGSLEY, settled in > Blackhawk County, Iowa and James, who was married to Louisa KINSLEY/KINGSLEY, > settled in Gentry County, Missouri. > > Larry E. Warren

To: All, Shirley's comment Re: HALBERT,s Coats of Arms concurs with those contained in Dick EASTMAN's newsletters, those of other genealogists & mine. Good advice to spend your $$ for beans & bread. A good conversation topic. F >>>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:00:01 -0700 S J Hulett <marcompro@juno.com> writes: >FRED >re Coats of Arms...Suggest anyone receiving anything from Halberts or >anything relating to genealogy from Bath Ohio should be wary. These >folks are Charletans and are operating under many names.. it would be >more profitable to flush your money down the toilet than to mail it to >them! >Shirley > >>>Two copies of a "HAURY" >coat of arms, prepared by Halberts, 3687 Ira Road, Bath, Ohio 44210, >exist. >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get >completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi Sammie & all, The HOWERY family is my wife's line and I have researched this family, along with many others, for 30 years and have found it to be one of my most frustrating families to research. My wife's maiden name was HOOVER and she is a member of several of the Warren County, Iowa families that you are researching, Sammie. I will give you the HOWERY family as I have found it and certainly would welcome any suggestions and/or corrections. Samuel HOWERY and Mary SIFFORD were married 17 Aug 1792 in Botetourt County, Virginia and had the following children. 1. Unknown child born Cir 1793. 2. Unknown child born Cir 1795. 3. Unknown child born Cir 1797. 4. Joseph M. born 26 Nov 1799 Virginia and was married to Lodema KINSLEY/KINGSLEY in Shelby County, Indiana 2 Oct 1828. He died 26 Nov 1885 at Spring Creek, Blackhawk County, Iowa. 5. John born Cir 1801. 6. James born 26 Mar 1808 Ohio and was married to Louisa KINSLEY/KINGSLEY in Shelby County, Indiana 11 Dec 1828. He died in Berlin, Gentry County, Missouri 26 Apr 1895. 7. Jacob born Cir 1810 Butler County, Ohio and was married to Sarah "Sally" Elvira THOMAS in Shelby County, Indiana 29 Jun 1836. He died 9 December 1885. Samuel was married second to Maria ROSEBOOM in Butler County, Ohio 17 Jul 1811. Their children were: 8. William born Cir 1812 Ohio and married Catherine COLCLAZIER in Shelby County, Indiana 24 Dec 1835. He died Cir 1847. 9. Julia Ann born 30 Oct 1813 Ohio and was married to Ephraim HOOVER in Shelby County, Indiana 28 Feb 1833. She died in Warren County, Iowa 2 Mar 1891. 10. Isaac born 15 Apr 1814 Ohio and was married first to Catharine FOUST and second to Margaret KIRKPATRICK in Warren County, Iowa 19 Dec 1857. He died 3 Apr 1891 in Warren County, Iowa. 11. Phebe born 1818 Ohio 12. Daniel born 1823 Ohio married Ruth HUFFMAN in Shelby County, Indiana 21 Jan 1847. 13. David King born 11 Dec 1827 Shelby County, Indiana married first to Sarah L. ASHWORTH in Shelby County, Indiana 11 Mar 1847 and second to Elizabeth Ann COLCLAZIER in Warren County, Iowa 14 Oct 1859. He died 28 Feb 1924. (I have not confirmed this death date but, if correct, he lived to be a very old man.) I would like to comment on the theory that Samuel HOWERY was a son of Jacob HOWERY and Susannah WAX. Susannah WAX was married to Daniel HOWERY in Botetourt County, Virginia 25 November 1801. Daniel, who was born Cir 1778, was a younger brother of Samuel, who was born Cir 1770. As I stated earlier, I would welcome any corrections. Larry E. Warren

Hi everyone, I was just visiting Shelby Co., IN and noticed a couple of early Howry marriages at the following website: <http://members.iquest.net/~ddistler/shelby/> they were: Joseph Howry married Sodena Kinsley Oct 2, 1828 in Shelby Co., IN James Howry married Loviss Kinsley Dec 11, 1828 in Shelby Co., IN Does anyone recognize them? They are too old to be children of Samuel Howery and Maria Roseboom. I would think they are too young to be Samuel's brothers (besides they have already been identified.) Could they be children from Samuel's marriage to Mary Sifford? or, Are they Nephews to Samuel? Just thought it looked most interesting. Sammie

To: ALL Data from my "JAKOB HAURY DESCENDANTS" book. It contains some info' from Espenshade's book on Hans & Ulrich. fredhaury@juno.com Albuquerque +++++ File: HIST-B.TXT Some HAURY notes from HAURY family research. fredhaury@juno.com --- ^ Ref./ "My American Ancestors & Their Descendents" by Edward Bowman Espenshade, privately printed 1950, 690 pages. Sec. 1, Chap IX. "The Hauris came from Switz. The name is of Germanic origin. Die Deutschen Families Namen defines the name as `ein uber lauter Mensch (sudd),' translated as 'one ever loud man or personage' or `a high 1-Spirited person.' The "America Germanica" V. 4, 1902, published an article written by Dr. Oscar Kuhns, studies in "German Family Names", p. 305, explains that the name Hauri is from two stems, - (Hug + hart) that the stem Hug means mink, spirit; Dr. Kuhns neglects to define the stem hart which may be defined as hard, sharp, or severe, thus a sharp minded or high spirited person is derived. Following the usual anglicizing of Hauri, `au' becomes `ow' or `ou', and `ri' becomes `ry', we have the anglicized form Howry. This form of spelling is the most prevalent today and is the form used in this book except for the first and second generations which are called Hauri. The early assessment lists have spelled the name Haure, Haurich, HAURY, Howery, Howrey, while the first US census (1790) lists them a Hourey. The records of the Lancaster Court House are indexed as Howry."/ --- ^ Ref. "Deutsche Namenkunde" by Max Gottschald, UNM Library CS2545 G6. Hauri: 1. Schwiz.,, Uhu". 2,, uberlauter mensch Schweiz = Swiss. Uhu = Eagle-owl. uberlaut = overloud, too noisy. Mensch = human being, man, person, fellow, people. --- ^ Ref. Roger HAURY, Rueil Malmaison, France. "The name HAURY is a very old name from Gascon (Region of South-west France) which was spelled `Haure' and means Blacksmith. Ref. Pierre - Paul HAURY, Paris, France. The origin of the name is `Haure' & means `Forge' in the old dialect of SW France (Gascon) and HAURY means Blacksmith. --- ^ Historisch - Biograph Lex. Schweiz Neuinburg 1927. Hauri. Familien der Kto. Aargon und Luzern. A. Kanton Aargau. - Johannes, von Hirschtal. *5. IN. 1818, kam als Student wegen eines schweren Lungenleidens nach Davos, wo er sich erholte. blieb dann dort dauernd als Pfaarer, zuerst 1871-1876 an der Krugemeinde, dann bis 1893 in Davos Dorf. von da an bis 1917 wieder an der Krugemeinde. Hier wurde er mehr und mehr der geistige Fuhrer. besi uders der Kurgaste. Gross waren auch sein Ausehen und sein Eiulluss in der Synode, der er als Enaumal or und Kuchenrat, von 1893-1899 als Dekan und Firchenralsprasident angehorte. Seine wissenschafthehen un literarischem Gebeit erwarben ihm auch auswarts emen lurhen Ruf. und mehr als einmal wurden ihm theologische Lehr-stuhle an Horchsrhulen abgbolen. nachdem ihn die Universitat Basel bereits zum Dr. Theol. h. c. ernannt hatle. Doch konnte er die Hohenli ft nicht mehr ent-behren und schlug die Berutungen aus 3. v. 1919 in Richen. Hauptwerke: Der Islam (-reisgekrout) : Das Christentum der Urgemeinde und dos der Neuzeit: Die Weltratsel und ihre Lusung: Gothes. Faust: Trostet mein Volk (Predigten); Die Religion, ihr Weser und ihr Recht, - (Jak. R. Truog.) -2. Nathanael Von Hirschtal. *1857. Bruder von Nr. 1. Pfarrer in S-. Gallen 1891-1924, Burger der Saldt 1896. Verollentliegle i Pradigtsammlungen steng protestanlicher Richtung, ferner Johannes Has, ein Wahibeitszen-izur 500 jarigen Gedachtwsfurt, religiose Erbaunngsschriflen. us W. Sein Sohn - 3. Hans* 1887. Dr. sc. nat.. Bolamker. seit 1916 Lehrer an der Madechen ekundatschule St Gallen. veroffentliehte u.a. Arbeiten uber Palslerpflanzen. ferner: Die Abstrammung des Menschen und seine Stellung in der Natur (in Jahrb. St. Gall. Naturir Ges. 1922-: Mit-arb. und Fachredaklor an Natur and Fechnik. (St.) B. Kanton Luzern. Hauri. Houri. Luzernerfamilie in Beromunster, Sur ll u. Luzern - Hans Von Munster, Richter im fre-- Hof Ludigen 1415. Heinrich. Chorherr Zu Munster 1457 - G/r. Reg - - Staatsarchive. (P. x. w.) *= Vortage aus rell-giasem, naturwissenschafthehem. Page 523 HAURIHAEUSER (Kt. Aargau, Bez. und. Gem. Zofingen). 469 in. Gruppe von 3 Hausern in einem kiloen Thalchen am S.- Fuss des Buhnenbergs; 2,5 km no der Station Zofingen der Linie Luzern - Olten 28 reform. Ew. Wiesenbau. --- ^ SWISS MENNONITE-HAURY HISTORY The origins of the Anabaptist/Catabaptist movement in Canton Aargau, Switzerland go back to 1520's. The three enduring wings of Anabaptism were: Swiss Brethren, Hutterian Brethren and (Dutch) Mennonites. In the 1690's the Swiss Brethren split into two groups the Amish & Mennonites. Ref. Mennonite Encyclopedia, p.4 & 5.: In the 17th century Kulm became the center of the Swiss Brethren movement in the Wynen Valley. Heinrich Muller had come this far on his journey of propaganda, & persuaded many to emigrate to Moravia. We find familiar names among them & their relatives, such as Hans HAURY of Hirschtal (had to pay a fine of 100 pounds for his sister),---. [FWH note: assumed to be Hans HAURY the wool weaver.] Ref. Mennonite Encyclopedia, p 5.: After the Thirty Years' War only a few traces of the Anabaptist movement were found in Aargau. Among the names recorded are Martin Burger of Burg in Reinach, Rudolph Kuenzy at Murgren, Bernhard Rohr at Uerkheim, Datwyler in Offringen, Hans Dester and Jacob Gut, who was banished Sept. 10, 1660. The rest of the Swiss Brethren also left their homeland & emigrated to Alsace and the Palatinate (especially in 1671). Those who remained rallied around the Bachmann family in Bottwyl & the HAURY family in Waldgraben. Most of these took part in the great emigration of the Swiss Brethren in 1711 to the Palatinate & the Netherlands. In the region of Zofingen they were found later than anywhere else. [FWH note: ? Was the Waldgraben HAURY family that of Hans HAURY the wool weaver?] --- ^ Ref. Mennonite Encyclopedia p. 679: HAURY (Hauri), a Mennonite family stemming from the Aargau, Switzerland. Since a very early date the Hauri family living in Hirschtal, Lenzburg district (as distinguished from the Hauri family living in Reinach), belonged to the Swiss Brethren. After the Thirty Years' War a number of HAURYs, under the pressure of persecution to which they were subjected in Switzerland, emigrated to South Germany. On one of the four boats that left Switzerland for the Netherlands in 1711 there was a weaver by the name of Hans HAURY from Hirschtal and his family. There are still numerous bearers of the name in Switzerland, South Germany, and North America. The Ancestor of the Mennonites among them is Jakob HAURY, presumably a descendant of the above Hans HAURY, who came as a farmer from Bruchhausen near Mannheim to the Bolanderhof near Kirchheimbolanden (Palatinate) in 1745 & married the widow of Christian Stauffer. --- ^ Ref. Journal of Genealogy, March 1979, p. 33: 62. HAURY(Hauri). 17th Century Anabaptist name, in the Bernese Aargau (Gratz, Bernese Anabaptists 47). After 1648 to the Palatinate; in 1745 Jacob HAURY there; progeny to Bavaria, later to USA; 19th century arrivals to Illinois; now mostly in Kansas (Mennonite Encyclopedia II: 679-680). Swiss forms: Hauri (Hirschtal, Ct. Aargau). Hauri and Houri in Ct. Luzern (Historisch-Biographisches Lexikon der Schweiz (7 vols. & Supplement). --- ^ Edward Bowman Espenshade supposed the two immigrants to Lanc. Co., Pa. from Amsterdam `Ulrich Hauri & Hans Hauri' were sons of Hans Hauri the wool weaver from Hirschtal, Switzerland. Espenshade refers to Henry Frank Eshleman's book "Historic Background and Annals of Swiss & German Pioneer Settlers of South Eastern, Pa." published in 1869 which states that Hans Hauri, wool weaver with a wife & two sons from the judicial district of Lenzburg arrived in the upper Palatinate in 1709. Lensburg is located in the canton of Aargau in northern Switz.. What Hans Hauri did was to move over the border into the less unfriendly Upper Palatinate of Germany in 1709. On p 185 (ibid.) is the statement that "Hans Hauri, wool weaver with a wife and two sons arrived in 1711 at Amsterdam, Holland." On p. 191 (ibid) it says that "We find Hauri among those who eventually reach Lanc. Co., Pa. and that (while Muller does not trace any of these emigrants of 1711 to Lanc. Col, Pa.). Many of them reached the county." For many of the names listed by Eshleman, the ages & names of wives an children are given but unfortunately there is no mention of age or other name than Hans Hauri in these references. Espenshade states: I.D. Rupp's "Collection of 30,000 names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and other Immigrants to Pa." (1727-1775) lists Ulrich as being in Lanc. Co. Pa. in 1709, however Ulrich is believed to have arrived on the "Mary Hope" 9-23-1710 at the port of Phila. Espenshade states that it seems that Ulrich Hauri arrived in 1711 or very soon afterwards, & that Hans Hauri arrived at the port of Phila sometime before he entered his land in 1717. Estimated arrival date about 1715. (Espenshade comment: Hans Hauri, the wool weaver at Amsterdam in 1711 may or may not have come to America. It seems more likely that Ulrich Hauri & Hans Hauri whose names appear in the early land records are the two sons of the Hans HAURY, the wool weaver. If we had access to the records of the "Committee of Foreign Needs, preserved in the Archives of the Mennonite Church at Amsterdam", it is possible the HAURY identity could be definitely established.) [Fred HAURY note: My letter to Committee of Foreign Needs, Archives of Mennonite Church, Amsterdam was returned, no record of addressee.] --- ^ WORDS/NAMES/PLACES FROM HAURY RESEARCH Freeprince Ludwig v 1508-1544. Germany: Alsace:(also France) Alsatia Ter. Elsass region, N. France between Rhine river & Vosges Mts; Once a German province, under Louis XIV annexed to France; again part of Germany 1871-1918. Alsace - Lorraine, Gel. Elsass - Lothrigen region, N. France including Alsace & part of Lorraine; in Germany 1871-1918. Bavaria: a kingdom before 1945 when annexed by Germany. Now a part of West Germany. Bayren: a synonym for Bavaria Bruchhausen bei Heidlberg Ealass = Alsace. Neustadt, Frankenthal in the Pfalz, Bavaria. Birthplace of Magdalena Christina Schaaff, wife of Heinrich-4 HAURY. Lanzenried, Bavaria. Palatinate: Pfalzbrafschaft: Pfalz. Bavaria. The land/country and cities under rule of the Palace. : Pfalz two SW Germany districts, once ruled by Palatine counts of the Holy Roman Empire: Rhenish or Rhine, Palatinate, Gel. Rhein "Pfalz on the Rhine E of Sarrland & Upper Palatinate, on the Danube around Regensburg. Pfalzgrafschaft. Pfalz: An area in Bavaria. Weierhof, Palatinate, Pfalz, Bavaria. A village in W. Germany, the Mennonite Church of the Froschauerhof HAURY families is there. Weierhof beginning 1682. Switzerland: Aargau, Fr Argovie' canton N Cen. Switzerland Aargau: Area 542 sq mi pop 300,800. Bernese Aargau, 17 Century. Bernese Alps, Bernese Oberland, Gel. Gerner Oberland. Section of the alps S. Switzerland in cantons Bern & Valais, between the lakes of Thun and Brienz on the N & the valley of the upper Rhone river on the S. Hirschtal, Kanton Aargau, Kanton Saint Gallen Lenzburg, Kanton Aargau, Luzern, Lucerne: Canton cen Switzerland area 579 sq mi, Pop 223,200. Commune on Lake Lucerne pop 60,500. Manz, Felix executed by drowning Jan 1527. Religious persecution. Reinach, Hint Schneggen, Kanton Aargau Simons, Menno: 1496-1561. Saint Gallen, Gel Sankt Gallen, Fr Saint Gall. Canton NE Switzerland area 800 sq mi, pop 309,000. Commune pop 68,000. Waldgraben, ref Mennonite Encyclopedia - HAURY's of Waldgraben. Zweibrucken Zwingli, a rebel Catholic priest - Jan 1525 quarrel with Catholic Church, Baptist beginning. --- ^ Many Germans sailed from Brayman or French ports. Brayman passenger lists were destroyed by fire in WWII. Some northern Germans left from Hamburg. The Library of Congress has lists of boat landings in America. French boats may have landed in Montreal, Canada, - the Carolinas or New Orleans. Home towns of some passengers are listed. --- ^ CREST OR COAT OF ARMS Coats of arms originated ca 13th century. Two copies of a "HAURY" coat of arms, prepared by Halberts, 3687 Ira Road, Bath, Ohio 44210, exist. One provided by Edward W. HAURY 515 S. Market St., Sparta IL 62286. One furnished by Mrs. Robert A HAURY, 815 Santa Fe, Newton, KS 67114. Mrs. Daniel E. HAURY Sr., National Park, New Jersey, furnished a hand drawn copy of a similar coat of arms as representative of the John W. HAURY family from France. The primary difference is the H used in quadrant-1. The H on the John W. HAURY coat of arms is similar to the H which my father (Frederick Wilhelm HAURY) engraved on silver. The color schemes are the same on the HAURY coat of arms prepared by Halberts. Authenticity and source of the HAURY coat of arms prepared by Halberts is unknown. --- ^ A photo and a sketch of a HAURY crest was received from John G. HAURY 7906 Circle Crest Road, Louisville, Ky. 40222. John's brother Douglas obtained this crest by mail order. John's comment "It is probably a fake". Authenticity and source of this crest is unknown. The Hauri von Reinach I crest, dated 1586 from the Statsarchiv of Kanton Aargau, Switzerland, was furnished by Emil W. HAURY of Tucson, AZ. He received it from a Zurich, Swiz. anthropologist colleague. Coats of Arms appear to have originated in the 13th Century, to identify the bearer during battle. Use became a status symbol. Coats of arms were bestowed upon persons & families by kings & rulers for special deeds, acts, loyalty & for favors. The status symbol aspect grew & some rulers granted (sold) coats of arms for money or items of monetary value. Details on a coat of arms had standardized meanings. Kings had experts to record, monitor & assure compliance. The helmet indicated degrees of royalty or court status. The direct front view of the knights head = sovereign princes with six bars. A profile with five bars = all degrees of peerage. An open helmet front view = baronets or knights. A profile with closed beaver = esquires and gentlemen. The beaver is the eye-guard or opening in front of the helmet. A mantling of gules doubled argent was for persons under the rank of peers. A gules doubled ermine mantling designated peers, all persons in the nobility rank. Gules is red. Argent is silver or white. Ermine is white powered with black tufts. Muhlrad (mill-wheel): The cogwheel originally meant fate, later it became the emblem for mechanics or industry. Mountains indicate strength, firmness, constancy, meditation spiritual strength, eternal righteousness. The Rose = regal beauty, love, wisdom, charm, grace, fidelity. The red rose martyrdom, or deep love. The leaf = hope. Yellow = the sun, goodness, enlightenment, inspiration, supreme wisdom. Gold = joy, benevolence, fruitfulness, faith, goodness of God. Orange-yellow = hospitality and revealed faith. 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Bill <redhorse@gbso.net>, You are on my e-address list. That posting is from a file of an old 1996 e-mail received from my nephew Guy. I don't have a list of the members of the HOWERY-L. Maybe we will both get acquainted with other members as time passes. I am glad that you are aboard. Fred HAURY fredhaury@juno.com Albuquerque >>>>> On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:43:34 -0500 redhorse@gbso.net writes: >Hey Fred >Don't forget to add me to your list. Maybe all who see this could be >added to your list, then the list shared with everyone. This way, we >would know who we're talking to and sending/receiving messages from. >It >would make me feel somewhat better at least knowing to whom I'm >exchanging infoemation.... > >William T. Haury >RedHorse@gbso.net > > >HO>FYI, > >HO> A 1996 e-address furnished to me by Nephew Guy. > >HO>Fred > > >HO>990402 I think I deleted names from the list that produced e-mail >HO>bounces. Fred > >HO>File: HAUELIST.TXT fredhaury@juno.com >HO>Some e-addresses from 1996. > >HO>Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 19:48:53 -0500 >HO>From: "Guy A. Caple" <Capleg@concentric.net> >HO>To: fredhaury@juno.com >HO>Subject: Internet Access >HO>Uncle Fred, >HO>This is the type info accessable through internet. > >HO>GIVEN NAMES FAMILY NAME E-MAIL DOMAIN >HO>-------------- ----------- ---------------------- >HO>19 >HO>Beth B Haury MCKH46A@prodigy.com VA >HO>Cassie S Haury MCKH46C@prodigy.com VA >HO>Charles J Haury NCVRO3A@prodigy.com NJ >HO>Donald C Haury 76111.1412@Compuserve.Com EVANSVILLE, >IN >HO>Franklin Edward Haury fhaury@prodigy.com SILVERDALE, WA >HO>Harry R Haury 73367.3564@Compuserve.Com >CHESTERFIELD,MO >HO>Lincoln Haury lh4@axe.humboldt.edu ARCATA CA >HO>Loren R Haury l haury@ucsd.edu SAN DIEGO CA >HO>Mark A Haury 102755.650@Compuserve.Com NORTHGLENN >CO >HO>Matthias Haury mhaury@pasteur.fr FRANCE >HO>Ms Megan E Haury MCKH46D@prodigy.com CHARLOTTESVILLE >VA >HO>Ralf Haury Ralf.Haury@rz.tu-ilmenau.de GERMANY >HO>Robert A Haury 76601.75@Compuserve.Com KIRKLAND WA >HO>Ryno Mary C Haury WAZV99A@prodigy.com LOUISVILLE KY >HO>Stephen S Haury 75270.447@Compuserve.Com SPRINGFIELD >IL >HO>Thomas E. Haury Thaury@aol.com BALLWIN MO >HO>Vickie Marie Haury stu3093@postoffice.onu.edu OH, USA >HO>Vivian M Haury HAKR33B@prodigy.com SILVERDALE WA >HO>William W Haury Jr 76066.3322@Compuserve.Com FT >LAUDERDALE FL >HO> In addition if you click on the name in internet it gives you >there >HO>location (i.e. City , State , Country, etc.). Several of the above >are >HO>in Germany, Australia, etc. >HO> Other areas of the internet cover genealogy and lots of stuff. >HO>Guy > >HO>--- > >HO>Uncle - Check out Http://www.four11.com to get e-mail address of a >HO>great >HO>number of people including about 18 Haury's. You'll need to sign >up >HO>(free) then do a search. Pretty neat. > > >HO>___________________________________________________________________ >HO>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >HO>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >HO>or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Fred, Although I have little to contribute, I do enjoy reading the messages going back and forth. phil howry -----Original Message----- From: fredhaury@juno.com <fredhaury@juno.com> To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com <HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, April 04, 1999 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [HOWERY-L] Howery linage >To: THOWERY, > > No record found of Rudolph 1844/46 in my data. > >--- >THOWERY family info' > >1-father? _-_ bur at sea en route to USA. Ex-German Army Officer. > sp-mother? _-aft 1856 Toledo OH w-cancer. imigrtant to Toledo. > c:Roudolph & 2 bros. > 2-Son1 ? > 2-Son2 ? > 2-Rudolph HOWERY (GGrandfather) ?1844/46 Germany-_. ?1855/6 imigrant > to US. Put in an orphan's home & left by brothers. His b'day was > unknown & he stood next to boys his height & he was estimated as > 11 years old. He was taken in & lived with a JUNKINS family in OH. > m-Mary Catherine CUNNINGHAM. >--- > >Fred >fredhaury@juno.com >Albuquerque, NM > >>>>>>> > >On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:17:27 EST THowery@aol.com writes: >>I have read about the many Howerys and their variations in spelling. >>I am >>having great difficulty in locating my branch though. >> >>My Great Grandfather was born in Germany oin about 1844-46 (actual >>date >>unsure) He came to America in 1855-56 with his mother, father and 2 >>brothers. His father had been an offcier in the German Army. His >>father >>died at sea and was buried at sea. You would think this would be >>easy to >>find. No so! I have no names beyond my G Grand father Rudolph >>Howery. >> The mother and boys went to Toledo, Ohio and mother died shortly >>after of >>cancer?? Brothers took Rudolph to an orphan's home and left him. >>No one >>has any further information. No names, dates, nothing. He did not >>know >>his b day so they stood him next to boys his height and he was >>determined to >>be 11 at that time. He was taken in by a family named Junkins in >>Ohio >>where he lived until he married Mary Catherine Cunningham. >> >>I have searched for 15 years to find out about his family, why they >>came to >>Ohio, who were his parents and brothers etc. >> >>Can anyone offer help, advise>> >> >> > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >

Hi Sammie, You are correct in that Joseph and James were sons of Samuel HOWERY and Mary SIFFORD. Joseph, who was married to Lodema KINSLEY/KINGSLEY, settled in Blackhawk County, Iowa and James, who was married to Louisa KINSLEY/KINGSLEY, settled in Gentry County, Missouri. Larry E. Warren

Hey Fred Don't forget to add me to your list. Maybe all who see this could be added to your list, then the list shared with everyone. This way, we would know who we're talking to and sending/receiving messages from. It would make me feel somewhat better at least knowing to whom I'm exchanging infoemation.... William T. Haury RedHorse@gbso.net HO>FYI, HO> A 1996 e-address furnished to me by Nephew Guy. HO>Fred HO>990402 I think I deleted names from the list that produced e-mail HO>bounces. Fred HO>File: HAUELIST.TXT fredhaury@juno.com HO>Some e-addresses from 1996. HO>Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 19:48:53 -0500 HO>From: "Guy A. Caple" <Capleg@concentric.net> HO>To: fredhaury@juno.com HO>Subject: Internet Access HO>Uncle Fred, HO>This is the type info accessable through internet. HO>GIVEN NAMES FAMILY NAME E-MAIL DOMAIN HO>-------------- ----------- ---------------------- HO>19 HO>Beth B Haury MCKH46A@prodigy.com VA HO>Cassie S Haury MCKH46C@prodigy.com VA HO>Charles J Haury NCVRO3A@prodigy.com NJ HO>Donald C Haury 76111.1412@Compuserve.Com EVANSVILLE, IN HO>Franklin Edward Haury fhaury@prodigy.com SILVERDALE, WA HO>Harry R Haury 73367.3564@Compuserve.Com CHESTERFIELD,MO HO>Lincoln Haury lh4@axe.humboldt.edu ARCATA CA HO>Loren R Haury l haury@ucsd.edu SAN DIEGO CA HO>Mark A Haury 102755.650@Compuserve.Com NORTHGLENN CO HO>Matthias Haury mhaury@pasteur.fr FRANCE HO>Ms Megan E Haury MCKH46D@prodigy.com CHARLOTTESVILLE VA HO>Ralf Haury Ralf.Haury@rz.tu-ilmenau.de GERMANY HO>Robert A Haury 76601.75@Compuserve.Com KIRKLAND WA HO>Ryno Mary C Haury WAZV99A@prodigy.com LOUISVILLE KY HO>Stephen S Haury 75270.447@Compuserve.Com SPRINGFIELD IL HO>Thomas E. Haury Thaury@aol.com BALLWIN MO HO>Vickie Marie Haury stu3093@postoffice.onu.edu OH, USA HO>Vivian M Haury HAKR33B@prodigy.com SILVERDALE WA HO>William W Haury Jr 76066.3322@Compuserve.Com FT LAUDERDALE FL HO> In addition if you click on the name in internet it gives you there HO>location (i.e. City , State , Country, etc.). Several of the above are HO>in Germany, Australia, etc. HO> Other areas of the internet cover genealogy and lots of stuff. HO>Guy HO>--- HO>Uncle - Check out Http://www.four11.com to get e-mail address of a HO>great HO>number of people including about 18 Haury's. You'll need to sign up HO>(free) then do a search. Pretty neat. HO>___________________________________________________________________ HO>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. HO>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html HO>or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

FYI, A 1996 e-address furnished to me by Nephew Guy. Fred 990402 I think I deleted names from the list that produced e-mail bounces. Fred File: HAUELIST.TXT fredhaury@juno.com Some e-addresses from 1996. Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 19:48:53 -0500 From: "Guy A. Caple" <Capleg@concentric.net> To: fredhaury@juno.com Subject: Internet Access Uncle Fred, This is the type info accessable through internet. GIVEN NAMES FAMILY NAME E-MAIL DOMAIN -------------- ----------- ---------------------- 19 Beth B Haury MCKH46A@prodigy.com VA Cassie S Haury MCKH46C@prodigy.com VA Charles J Haury NCVRO3A@prodigy.com NJ Donald C Haury 76111.1412@Compuserve.Com EVANSVILLE, IN Franklin Edward Haury fhaury@prodigy.com SILVERDALE, WA Harry R Haury 73367.3564@Compuserve.Com CHESTERFIELD,MO Lincoln Haury lh4@axe.humboldt.edu ARCATA CA Loren R Haury l haury@ucsd.edu SAN DIEGO CA Mark A Haury 102755.650@Compuserve.Com NORTHGLENN CO Matthias Haury mhaury@pasteur.fr FRANCE Ms Megan E Haury MCKH46D@prodigy.com CHARLOTTESVILLE VA Ralf Haury Ralf.Haury@rz.tu-ilmenau.de GERMANY Robert A Haury 76601.75@Compuserve.Com KIRKLAND WA Ryno Mary C Haury WAZV99A@prodigy.com LOUISVILLE KY Stephen S Haury 75270.447@Compuserve.Com SPRINGFIELD IL Thomas E. Haury Thaury@aol.com BALLWIN MO Vickie Marie Haury stu3093@postoffice.onu.edu OH, USA Vivian M Haury HAKR33B@prodigy.com SILVERDALE WA William W Haury Jr 76066.3322@Compuserve.Com FT LAUDERDALE FL In addition if you click on the name in internet it gives you there location (i.e. City , State , Country, etc.). Several of the above are in Germany, Australia, etc. Other areas of the internet cover genealogy and lots of stuff. Guy --- Uncle - Check out Http://www.four11.com to get e-mail address of a great number of people including about 18 Haury's. You'll need to sign up (free) then do a search. Pretty neat. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

To: THOWERY, No record found of Rudolph 1844/46 in my data. --- THOWERY family info' 1-father? _-_ bur at sea en route to USA. Ex-German Army Officer. sp-mother? _-aft 1856 Toledo OH w-cancer. imigrtant to Toledo. c:Roudolph & 2 bros. 2-Son1 ? 2-Son2 ? 2-Rudolph HOWERY (GGrandfather) ?1844/46 Germany-_. ?1855/6 imigrant to US. Put in an orphan's home & left by brothers. His b'day was unknown & he stood next to boys his height & he was estimated as 11 years old. He was taken in & lived with a JUNKINS family in OH. m-Mary Catherine CUNNINGHAM. --- Fred fredhaury@juno.com Albuquerque, NM >>>>>> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:17:27 EST THowery@aol.com writes: >I have read about the many Howerys and their variations in spelling. >I am >having great difficulty in locating my branch though. > >My Great Grandfather was born in Germany oin about 1844-46 (actual >date >unsure) He came to America in 1855-56 with his mother, father and 2 >brothers. His father had been an offcier in the German Army. His >father >died at sea and was buried at sea. You would think this would be >easy to >find. No so! I have no names beyond my G Grand father Rudolph >Howery. > The mother and boys went to Toledo, Ohio and mother died shortly >after of >cancer?? Brothers took Rudolph to an orphan's home and left him. >No one >has any further information. No names, dates, nothing. He did not >know >his b day so they stood him next to boys his height and he was >determined to >be 11 at that time. He was taken in by a family named Junkins in >Ohio >where he lived until he married Mary Catherine Cunningham. > >I have searched for 15 years to find out about his family, why they >came to >Ohio, who were his parents and brothers etc. > >Can anyone offer help, advise>> > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Shirley, I'd be interested in your Howery line-I didn't see where you sent your pedigree. There's been so much Howery traffic lately I may have missed it. I come from the same line and am trying to get all the info I can. Connie

To: Ellen Thanks for sharing. I do better at keeping notes also. Now if I could just figure out how to file them, --- and find them, when I want them. I will file your notes with my Other HAURY notes, where they will remain in safe keeping (probably from UNoWho). Fred +++++ List of e-mail EmotIcons (Emotonal Icons & Abbreviations) for those who collect/use such things EMOTICONS ;-) wink :-D laughing, :-D User is laughing (at you!) 8-) wide-eyed, 8-) Wearing glasses; :) smiley, :-} grin, :-) smiley, <grin> , <g> = basic smiley. :-X close mouthed :-] smirk :-o oh, no! :-O Surprise; 8-o Wide eyed suprise. |-O User is yawning/snoring :( :-( Frown; =|:-)= Abe Lincoln. :-p Sticking out your tongue :P <-- Smiley with tounge stuck out. <:* Kiss, :-* User just ate something sour. :-/ Scowl >:-( Angry :-I Indifferent smiley. Better than a Frown. :-> User just made a really biting sarcastic remark. Worse than a :-). >:-> User just made a really devilish remark. >;-> Winky and devil combined. A very lewd remark was just made. :-[] Mick Jagger (8-o It's Mr. Bill! *:o) And Bozo the Clown! %-) User has been staring at a green screen for 15 hours straight. :*) User is drunk. [:] User is a robot. :-{) User has a mustache. :-{} User wears lipstick. {:-) User wears a toupee. :-7 User just made a wry statement. :-)~ User drools :-~) User has a cold :'-( User is crying :-X User's lips are sealed :-/ User is skeptical C=:-) User is a chef [:-) User is wearing a Walkman (:I User is an egghead :-# User wears braces :^) User has a broken nose :<) User is from an Ivy League School :-& User is tongue tied. =:-) User is a hosehead `:-) User shaved one of his eyebrows off this morning :-Q User is a smoker :-? User smokes a pipe AFAIK As far as I know BRB Be Right Back BTW By the way GMTA Great Minds Think Alike FAQ Frequently Asked Question FYI For Your Information HTH Hope this helps IMHO In my humble opinion IMNSHO In my not so humble opinion IMO In my opinion IOW In other words LOL Laughing out loud ROTFL Rolling on the floor laughing YMMV Your mileage may vary WTG Way To Go {g} Grin {BG} Big grin Or make up UR own - WWK Who will know? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]