Hello, everyone! I find it very interesting that those 2 Howrey brothers were involved in that shoot-out. My Howry family came to Wyreka/Powersville, Putnam Co., MO (right next to the Iowa border). In talking with a historian in Meridian, ID, I found out that the "Howry boys" had quite a reputation. Evidently, about 1/2 the town of Powersville, MO picked up and moved to Hunter/Meridian, ID. Anyway, this historian told me that when the "Howry boys" rode into town, everyone else went back inside their houses. Considering my Howry family...these brothers/cousins would have stood 6'+ (some up to 6'8") That was extremely tall, especially for 1890s/turn-of-the-century. Add to that some 3" roping boots and a hat, and the fact that their build was extremely slim/wirey (not stocky at all)... that sounds like a fairly intimidating picture riding into town. It's my understanding that they were known for being quite a wild bunch, too. Their sister, my great-grandmother, stood 5'11"!! [Elsie Zona HOWRY PEER, b. 1887 Powersville, Putnam Co., MO] All of these details makes things so much more interesting!! Take care! -- Amelia Reimer-Davisson Port Angeles, WA

Hi Larry, and everyone else I figured by now everyone would be LOL about "Miss Rosybone". HawxSakQBs@aol.com wrote: > > HOWERY. I am really pleased to find where he resided as I had understood he > went to Nebraska and had always looked for him there. You may be partly correct here. The death certificate stated that David had lived in Whitewater for 19 years (so he came to Whitewater KS about 1903.) I know for a fact that his daughter Charlotta J. and her husband Richard F. LEAP moved from Warren Co., IA to Bancroft, Cuming Co., NE by 1886 and lived there until Jan of 1890 because of birth records for two of their children. Then the Leap family was in Whitewater, KS by at least 1909 because Charlotta J.Howrey Leap died there in October of 1909. I've always wondered if David and Elizabeth went to NE with them and then they all moved to KS. There are no 1890 census! I have not examined the 1900 census. >I am aware his > daughter, Della, was married to Harry EDRIS and lived in Lincoln, Nebraska so > I had assumed my earlier information was correct. Thanks, I didn't know about Della and husband Harry EDRIS. > > His mother's maiden name has been a problem for a lot of people. I believe > she was the daughter of Hendrick ROSEBOOM and Rachel SMALLEY. Her Butler > County, Ohio marriage certificate lists her name as Maria ROSEBOOM. I concure with the name ROSEBOOM even though I have not seen the marriage certificate. "Miss Rosybone" just isn't correct! And thanks for the tip as to who her parents might have been. > I assume you are aware, but I will tell you in case you are not, that six of > David's children are buried in the North River Cemetery in Warren County, > Iowa. Two of them, George and John, were shot to death during a neighborhood > feud that escalated into a gun battle. Another daughter, Emma, is buried in > the nearby Carlisle Cemetery. I knew about George and John. Someone so kindly shared the pages about the "Tear Down Murders" from The History of Warren County. However, I don't believe I have all of David's Children. Let me list what I have and maybe you can help fill in for me. I Have: 1. Nancy A. Howrey 1848-1889 married Vincent Young 2. Mary E. Howrey 1850-1852 infant 3. Charlotta J. Howrey 1852-1909 married Richard F. Leap 4. George M Howrey 1854-1876 murdered 5. John M. Howrey 1854-1876 murdered 6. Emma Howrey abt 1863 7. Ida Howrey abt 1865 8. William Howrey abt 1867 9. Saul Howery abt 1870 Besides Della, who else am I missing? Also, In the Green Valley cemetery in Furley, KS is listed a Franklin HOWREY b 26 Aug 1893 d 5 Feb 1973 and a Nola I. HOWREY b 20 Dec 1906 d 23 Jul 1984 (I am assuming this Nola is Franklin's spouse.) Franklin has to be a Grandchild of David and Elizabeth's because I don't believe in 1893 Elizabeth was in the baby making business anymore. Thanks for sharing, Sammie

Hi Sammie, Thanks for sharing the information on the death certificate of David King HOWERY. I am really pleased to find where he resided as I had understood he went to Nebraska and had always looked for him there. I am aware his daughter, Della, was married to Harry EDRIS and lived in Lincoln, Nebraska so I had assumed my earlier information was correct. His mother's maiden name has been a problem for a lot of people. I believe she was the daughter of Hendrick ROSEBOOM and Rachel SMALLEY. Her Butler County, Ohio marriage certificate lists her name as Maria ROSEBOOM. I assume you are aware, but I will tell you in case you are not, that six of David's children are buried in the North River Cemetery in Warren County, Iowa. Two of them, George and John, were shot to death during a neighborhood feud that escalated into a gun battle. Another daughter, Emma, is buried in the nearby Carlisle Cemetery. Larry E. Warren

Hi everyone, Well I finally received David King HOWERY's death certificate and I promised to share. Some very interesting information, some erroneous I believe. Full Name = David K. HOWREY (Male, White, Married) Date of Birth = December 11, 1827 Place of Birth (City or Town) = Shelby, Indiana Date of Death = February 28, 1924 Age at Death = 96 Yrs, 2 Mo, 17 days. Wife = Elizabeth HOWREY Cause of Death = Cerebral Hemorrhage or apoplexy. Place of Death = Whitewater, Milton Township, Butler Co., KS Burial = Green Valley March 1, 1924 Name of Father = Samuel HOWREY Birthplace of Father = Kentucky Maiden Name of Mother = Miss ROSYBONE Birthplace of Mother = Unknown Informant = (sig) Velman HOWREY Address of Informant = Whitewater, Kansas Just a few of my observations: Note the spelling of HOWREY throughout the document. I don't know who the informant, Velman HOWREY, was. A grandson maybe? Note that he says Samuel HOWREY was born in Kentucky. I was never aware that Samuel was ever in KY let alone born there! Then, Miss ROSYBONE sounds like mischievous grandchildren teasing grandmother Howrey. Or, maybe teased by Samuel and the children/grandchildren truly thought her maiden name was Rosybone. Or, maybe the informant knew what he was talking about and her name was ROSYBONE. Your guess is as good as mine! Sammie

I messed up here and have gotten several e-mails about this, so I think I'd better send a message to the list. Edward Howrey's Samuel is clearly the same Samuel under discussion. Same marriage to Maria Roseboom, same list of children, etc. I was asking about Edward Howrey's statement that Samuel had a wife Sarah. Edward Howrey's notes don't mention Samuel's wife Mary Sifford. When I reported that Edward Howrey called Samuel a son of Jacob Howry and Susannah Wax, I meant to indicate that his information was not entirely trustworthy. I just didn't write clearly. I expected everyone else to make the same leap I did - that since Samuel was not the son of Jacob Howry and Susannah Wax, Samuel also might not have had a wife named Sarah. Sorry for the confusion. Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: Max and Sammie Leap [mailto:thewoods@yuba1.yubacoe.k12.ca.us] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 2:48 PM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOWERY-L] Howery marriages Thanks Justin, and everyone I do believe that Edward Howrey (of Howrey & Simon fame) must have been talking about another Howry family of a different age. According to what I find, Daniel HOWRY married Susannah WAX 23 November 1801 and Jacob HOWRY Jr married Martha GRIEST 15 January 1803 all in Botetourt Co., VA. That is if you can believe what is posted on www. Also, Samuel Howry born abt 1770 didn't marry Mary Sifford until 1792. Incidently, there is an Index of Virginia marriages 1740-1850 that can be accessed (free) for the next few days. There are a few Howery/Howrey/Howry marriages listed. Go there and have a look around. <http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3723.htm> (you might need to remove the brackets here) Sammie Dobbins, CA Justin C.S. Howery wrote: > > Phil Howry (of this list) recently sent me some notes from Edward Howrey (of > Howrey & Simon fame - the DC law firm). I don't know how reliable Ed's > information was but he lists James, John, and Joseph as children of Samuel's > first marriage. However, he calls their mother Sarah. He also guesses that > Samuel was son of Jacob Howry and Susannah Wax. I'm curious about the source > for the name Sarah as a wife of Samuel. Was Edward Howrey confused or did he > have additional information that we don't have?

Hi Larry & all, Maybe I should read all my messages before I start answering any of them. Thank you Larry for sharing your research on Samuel Howery and his families. The information about the children born to 1st wife Mary Sifford certainly answers a lot of questions for me. Happy to hear you are researching Warren Co., IA also. Yes, David King Howery is my husband's line and I concure with all the data you shared about him. However, see my p.s. below. We are still awaiting his death certificate. Should be in the mail as Kansas Vitals has cashed my check. I will share with all of you whatever information is on that document. If indeed they sent one. <:( Now I have one thing that I would like to address (Others have shown these same dates as well and I believe I tried discussing it on the list some months ago) and that is: Julia Ann was born 30 Oct 1813 and then 5-1/2 MONTHS later Isaac is born 15 April 1814. Someone help us out here! Is there anyone of us researching Isaac? Sammie Dobbins, CA p.s. Family history notes show David's birthyear as 1828, David's tombstone shows 1826, other researchers show 1827. We'll see what his children reported on the death certificate.

Thanks Justin, and everyone I do believe that Edward Howrey (of Howrey & Simon fame) must have been talking about another Howry family of a different age. According to what I find, Daniel HOWRY married Susannah WAX 23 November 1801 and Jacob HOWRY Jr married Martha GRIEST 15 January 1803 all in Botetourt Co., VA. That is if you can believe what is posted on www. Also, Samuel Howry born abt 1770 didn't marry Mary Sifford until 1792. Incidently, there is an Index of Virginia marriages 1740-1850 that can be accessed (free) for the next few days. There are a few Howery/Howrey/Howry marriages listed. Go there and have a look around. <http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3723.htm> (you might need to remove the brackets here) Sammie Dobbins, CA Justin C.S. Howery wrote: > > Phil Howry (of this list) recently sent me some notes from Edward Howrey (of > Howrey & Simon fame - the DC law firm). I don't know how reliable Ed's > information was but he lists James, John, and Joseph as children of Samuel's > first marriage. However, he calls their mother Sarah. He also guesses that > Samuel was son of Jacob Howry and Susannah Wax. I'm curious about the source > for the name Sarah as a wife of Samuel. Was Edward Howrey confused or did he > have additional information that we don't have?

Hi Sammie & all, Saw your memo to Larry about Julie Ann & Isaac. If anyone can help out on this issue let me add (2) more names to the pot. On the tombstones in Liberty Cemetery in Shelby Co, IN are Jacob Howery b: 11 Feb 1814 and Jane (Howery) Alexander b: 11 Apr 1814. If this is something someone has already worked through, I could sure use the help. Julia Ann Howery b: 30 Oct 1813 Jacob Howery b: 11 Feb 1814 Jane Howery b: 11 Apr 1814 Isaac Howery b: 15 Apr 1814 All of these people appear to be children of Samuel Howery. Ron Oberle Greenfield, IN

Descendancy chart - Andrew HAURY 1780>. No link to my Jakob HAURY 1718. fredhaury@juno.com File: ANDR1780.TXT 1996__ 1-Andrew-1q;bet 1780 & 1795- . em to St. Louis MO fm Alsace Lorraine FR/soap cooker for Proctor-Gamble m-Age 44 Mary Voisen, info from David R.Haury to June Townsand Nothaus. Sp-Mary Voisen 2-Adolph-2q/Andrew-1;8N1840-25Jan1919 Summerfield IL. Sp-Christian Schuller:5D1842-18Jan1929p: George Schuller 1812-1909 Mary Metzc; 3-George Edward 3-William H 3-Julia 3-Charles A 3-Louis Albert-3q/Adolph-2;14Apr1882-24D1969. Merchant/Madison Co IL/Pawnee IL. m-18Apr1909 Katherine B Rumer Sp-Katherine B Rumer 4-Lawrence Louis-4q/Louis Albert-3;24Jan1910 Owaneco IL- . Grocer 5-Elsie HAURY m19500730 in Raymond IL. survives. Sp-Albert Dale CRINER 1991-1996, Pub' Date: 19960418 Peoria Journal Star pg: D5 Obit: IL YATES CITY, age 67, of Yates City since 1952, died at 9:37 a.m. Wed 19960417, at Methodist Med Center in Peoria. Born 19281112 Thornton IA, to DeWitt and Irene Snow Criner, Korean War Army veteran, member of Farmington American Legion and Disabled American Veterans. Superintendent at Caterpillar Inc., retired 1983. member of Elmwood Independent Order of Odd Fellows, served as noble grand at his death. member of Salem Township Cemetery Board. active with Yates City Lions Club and Boy Scouts of America. member of Faith United Presbyterian Church, where he taught Sunday school for many years and was an elder. Services will be at 2 p.m. Saturday at Patterson Funeral Home in Elmwood. Rev. Cheryl Lunday will officiate. Visitation will be from 5 to 8 p.m. Friday at the funeral home. Burial Yates City Cemetery. Memorials to his church or American Cancer Society.; 6-Susan HAURY m-SAGERS, Yates City 6-Sheryl HAURY m-Himegarner, Yates City 6-Deborah HAURY m-Butterfield, Edwards IL 7-6 grandchildren 8-1 G-grandchild 5-Carol Ann. 4-Chester Raymond 4-Kenneth Albert. 3-David R. 2-Henry, 2-?Edward 2-10 total (4m/6f) one daughter dissappeared believed murdered. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

A file created on a TECHNET visit thru bulletin board access years ago. fredhaury@juno.com +++++++++ File: LC-LIB.TXT (date unknown pre-1994 file) RAN KERMIT (ABQ PUB LIB) FROM TECHNET > LIB' OF CONG' LIBRARY OF CONGRESS FILE: LOCI typed HAURY: B06 Haury, family//(SUBJ=2) B07 Haury, Auguste//(AUTH=2) B08 Haury, David A//(AUTH=7) Bo9 Haury, Don//AUTH=1) B10 Haury, Emil W. (Emil Walter), 1904-//(AUTH=8; SUBJ=2) B11 Haury, Fred W. (Fred Wilhelm, 1923-//(AUTH=4) B12 Haury, H.-J//(Auth=1) B01 Haury, H.-J. (Heinz-Jorg)//(AUTH=8) B02 Haury, Jakob, 1718-1789--//(SUBJ=1) B03 Haury, Pierre, 1917-//(AUTH-1) B04 Haurylau, V.H//(AUTH=2) B05 Haurykinm Leanid//(AUTH=5) Type in B## @ list 2 above B02: 91-120559 ITEM 1 OF 1 IN SET 29 (LCCC) Haury, Fred W. (Fred Wilhelm, 1923- Jakob Haury descendannts / by Frederick Wilhelm Haury, Jr. Ed. 1. Albuquerque, NM : F.W. Haury 1990. i, 41p. ; i11. ; 28 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: CS71.H378 1990 SUBJECTS : Haury family. Haury, Jakob, 1718-1789--Family NOTES: Includes index. DEWEY DEC.: 929/.2/0973 20 CATALOGING SOURCE: DLC DLC LCCN: 91-120559 B03 91-152867 ITEM 1 OF 1 IN SET 33 Une affaire de stylos / Pierre Haury & Jean-Pierre Lacroux. (Pairs) : Seghers : Quinette, (c1990) 195 p, : ill. (chiefly col.) ; 30 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: TS1266 .H38 1990 SUBJECTS: Fountain Pins--Collectors and collecting. OTHER NAMES: Lacroux, Jean-Pierre, 1947- NOTES: Includes index. ISBN: 2232103455 : 450F DEWEY DEC.: 681/.6 20 CATALOGING SOURCE: DLC DLC LCCN: 91-152867 B08 91-622666 ITEM 1 OF 7 IN SET 47 (LCCC) Kansas State Historical Society Guide to the microfilm collections of the Kansas State Historical Society / comiled & edited by David A. Haury. Topeka, Ks (120 W 10th St., Topeka 66612-1291) : The Society, 1991. 1 v. (various pagings) ; 30 cm ;C CALL NUMBER: Z1285 .K26 1991 (ALTERNATE CLASS F676) SUBJECTS: Kansas State Historical Society--Microform catalogs. American newspapers--Kansas--Bibliography--Microform catalogs. Kansas--history--bibliography--microform catalogs. Kansas--Genealogy--Bibliography--Microform catalogs. OTHER NAMES: Haury, David A. GEORG. AREA CODE: u-us-ks DEWEY DEC,: 016.9781 20 CATALOG SOURCE: DLC DLC LCCN: 91-622666 2--- 67-116345 ITEM 2 OF 7 IN SET 45 (LCCC) Haury, David A. Index to Mennonite immigrants on United States Passenger lists, 1872-1904 / compiled and edited by David A. Haury. North Newton Ks. : Mennonite Library and Archives, 1986. 224 p. ; 28 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: E184.M45 H38 1986 SUBJECTS: Mennonites--United States--genealogy. Immigrants--United States--Registers. Registers of births, etc.--United States. Ships--United States--Passenger lists. OTHER NAMES: Mennonite Library and Archives. GEOG. AREA CODES: n-us--- DEWEY DEC.: 929/.3/088287 19 CATALOGING SOURCE: DLC DLC DLC LCCN: 87-116345 3--- 87-26020 Haury, David A. The origins of the Liberal Party & liberal Imperialism : the career of Charles Buller, 1806-1848 / New York : Garland, 1987. vii, 375 p. ; 24 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: DA17.B85 H38 1987 B09 94-17185 ITEM 1 OF 1 IN SET 43 (LCCC) Haury, Don I'm not my fault / Don Haury, Rev, ed. New Youk " Avon Books, c1995. xii, 109p. : 21cm. LC CALL NUMBER: BF697.5.S46 H375 1995 SUBJECTS: Self-esteem. Self-defeating behavior. Behavior modification. OTHER TITLES: I am not my fault. NOTES: Includes bibliographical reference (p. 109). ISBN: 0380777088 : $8.00 DEWEY DEC.: 158/.1 20 CATALOGING SOURCE: DLC DLC DLC LCCN: 94-17185 B11 ITEMS 4 OF 4 SET 48: BRIEF DISPLAY FILE LOCI (DESCENDING ORDER) 1. 91-120559 : Haury, Fred W. (Fred Wilhelm), 1923- Jakob Haury descendants / Ed. 1. Albuquerque NM : F.W. Haury, 1990, i, 41 p. : ill. ; 28 cm LC CALL NUMBER: CS71.H378 1990 2. 88-179804 : Haury, Fred W. (Fred Wilhelm), 1923- ABC's of round dancing / Huron, OH : Burdick Enterprises, c1984. 215 p. : 28 cm. LC CALL NUMBER C37 1984 3. 88-173343: Fred W. (Fred Wilhelm). 1923- Thomas David descendants / 1st ed. {Albuquerque, NM (8810 Lagrima de Oro., NE Albuquerque 87111 : F.W. Haury, 1987} iii, 46, 53, 39 p. ; 28 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: CS71.D25 1987 4. 80-126219: Haury, Fred W. (Fred Wilhelm), 1923- ABC's of round dancing / Huron Ohio ; American Squaredance Magazine, c1980, 188 p. : ill. ; 28 cm. LC CALL NUMBER GV 1755 .H37 FULL DISPLAY: TYPE DISPLAY ITEM plus an item # Example--> display item 2 91-120559 ITEM 1 OF 1 IN SET 49 (LCCC) Haury, Fred W (Fred Wilhelm, 1923- Jakob Haury descendants / by Frederick Wilhelm Haury Jr. Ed. 1. Albuquerque NM : F.W. Haury, 1990, i, 41 p. : ill. ; 28 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: CS71.H378 1990 SUBJECTS: Haury family. Haury, Jakob, 1718-1789--Family. NOTES: Includes index. DEWEY DEC.: 929/.2/0973 20 CATALOGING SOURCE: DLC DLC LCCN: 91-129559 88-208843: Regier, Harold M. (Harold Maurice), 1909- The Regier and Haury family history : an attempt to tell the history of our forefathers, to portray their character, and to describe the values that guided their lives/ Newton Kan. (1200 E. 7th, Newton 67114) : H.M. Regier, c1988. viii, 261 p. : 28 cm. LC CALL NUMBER CS71.R336 1988. B10 SET 41: BRIEF DISPLAY FILE: LOCI (DESCENDING ORDER) 1. 93-106786: Haury, Emil W. (Emil Walter), 1094- Emil W Haury's Prehistory of the American Southwest / Tucson : U of AZ Press, (1992) xii, 508 p. : ill. ; 23 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: E78.S7 H37 1992 2. 91-62012: Udall, Stewart L. In Coronado's footsteps / Tucson AZ : Southwest Parks & Monuments Asso., c1991. iv, 31 p. : col. ill., map ; 26 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: E125.V3 U2 1991 3. 88-29523: Haury, Emil W. (Emil Walter), 1904- Point of Pines, AZ : a history of the U of AZ Archaeological Field School / Tucson AZ. : U of AZ Press, 1989. xvi, 141 p. : ill., maps ; 28 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: E78.A7 H29 1989 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

FYI, This chart shows names of children of persons on the pedigree chart. fredhaury@juno.com +++++ File: HAUPEDCH.TXT fredhaury@juno.com FRED HAURY PEDIGREE CHART 1999 Numbers 64, 128, & 256 are not documented. 256--HAURY, Hans-B ?, Hirschtal, Switzerland. | 128--HAURY, Jakob-a?<Hansb May be Jakob-1's father. | 64--HAURY, Jakob-A ?, Hirschtal, Swtz. | 32--HAURY, Jakob-1 1718 Hamm,?-4F1789 Froschauerhof, | Bavaria.m1745 c-Christian/Barbara. | 16--HAURY, Christian-2 Aug1747-1S1824 Fros.m1778,c-Jacob | | /John/Christian/Susanne/Eliz/Barbara/Heinrich/Daniel | | /Barbara2/Maria/Maria2/John2/Katharina/Johannes. | | | 33--SCHMIDT, Kathrina (Stauffer). -Jan1773 Fros. | 8--HAURY, Heinrich-3 1792-18Oct1860 b&d Fros. m1N1832 c- | | /Katharina/Heinrich/Johannes/Jakob | | /Christian/Eliz/Maria/Charles Daniel. | | | 17--WOHLGEMUTH, Katharina 1760 Bavaria-11Jun1833 Fros. | 4--HAURY, Heinrich-4, 11S1835 Fros.-22F1905 NE. m22Oct1863 | | Neustadt, c-Heinrich/Amma/Rudolph/Frederick/Ida/Louis | | /Ida/Lucy. | | 36--FINCK, Maxmilian c-Conrad;. | | | | | 18--FINCK, Conrad 1761- . Pfalz, Bavaria. c-Philippina. | | | | | | | 37--ORTH, Elisabeth | | | | 9--FINCK, Philippina 18My1806 Albisheim, Bav-28Jul1873 Fros | | | | 38--KUNDEL, Phillip c-Susanne Margarete. | | | | 19--KUNDEL, Susanne Margarete 3May1768- | | | 39--NEBER, Maria Barbara | 2--HAURY, Frederick Wilhelm-5, 3F1877 WI-18May1950 AR m19211009 AR, | | c-Mary/Frederick/Anna/Teresa/Arelia | | | | 10--SCHAAFF, Wilhelm, c-Magdalena Christina. | | | | 5--SCHAAFF, Magdalena Christina 1841 Neustadt, Bavaria-1880 WI. | | | 11--ZINCKGRAFF, Magdalena, 1813- | 1-HAURY, Frederick Wilhelm Jr-5, 24Apr1923 AR- . c-0. m1941 Kathryn | MCGARITY | 3--KINNEY, Mary Ellen, 1901 Evadale, AR-1971 Little Rock, AR. Jakob-a?<Hansb May be father of Jakob-1. Mennonite Registers of Guth and Waldner's Mennonites in Hamm: 1737 Jacob Hanay (Haury?); 1738 Jakob Haury, wife and 4 children; 1743 No Haury listed. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

FYI, I'm going to post some of the Jakob HAURY Descendant & other-HAURY files from my hard drive, in case they may be useful or meaningful to someone. File: HAURE.TXT fredhaury@juno.com Misc' notes on persons w/ HAURY name variations. date unknown. HAURE: C. 26 r Boursault 17e Paris/ G. Ecole Communale Pommeraie Grande Bastide Cozuaix 12e, Marseille, FR./ Abraham - Marie Francoise/Gabrielle Marie b1882 p-Pierre Albert Marie Suzanne Bossageix, m-Louis Fredinand Rotaud 1911 Gerinde Bordeaux/ Bertrand m Pauline Monlezun Apr 22 1876 Lafayette Parish, La. Bertrand b 3-20-1877 m Olivia Guidry. Jacques, 8 r Malchais 19e Paris/Jean Michel, 24 r Levis 17e Paris/ Jean Paul, 55 r Pompe 26e Paris/ Patricia, 96 r Damremonte 18e Paris/ Place Lucien, 23 r Turbin 8e Marseille FR/ Jean c 1744 Bases-Pyreness, Montaut/ Marie Francoise c1683/Maine-Et Lorie Allomnes p Abaraham & Francoise Ribert/Pierre Albert see Gabrielle Marie Haure Jean, 345 Chem Madrouge Ville 15e, Marseille, FR./ Jean Jerry 1870 census, Orleans parish (lknott@exp.net) HAURET: Catharine b1882 Basses-Pyrenees, Oboron, Sainte Marie, p Jean & Jeanne Marie Tucat/Jean m-Jeanne Jeanneton or Casloide 1772 Basse Pyrenees Carroze, c; Jean b 1880/Jean Pierre 1878/Marcel/Pierre 1884 HAUREY: John;1800 Kings Co NY ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

FYI, This is File: HIST-D.TXT Notes from HAURY family research. This is one of 4 ea HIST-n.TXT files posted: HIST-A.TXT, HIST-B.TXT, HIST-C.TXT & HIST-D.TXT (in case anyone saves posts). fredhaury@juno.com --- /COPY/ LETTER: MAX CHRISTOPH NAUMANN GENEALOGE CH-8559 FRUTHWILEN MANZENWEG 161 TELEFON 072-642522 FRUTHWILEN 25-4-1988 Dear Mister HAURY, Last autumn I received your 4Sep1987 letter. I studied documents in different archives according to the "Mennonite-lists of the Palatine in the 18th century" edited by G. Waldner and Professor Guth. Now last week I traveled to Hamm & Ibersheim. Hamm is where Jacob HAURY, your ancestor 32, came from. Ibersheim or "Hof Ibersheim is the neighbo-village of Hamm & was a pure Mennonite settlement, when all the Swiss exhalants arrived - similar to Weyerhof & Bolanden. In Ibersheim I met Pfarrer Habegger of the Mennonite community. He is Swiss citizen, & immigrated in one of the last 20 years, during our century. He is not from the Aargau, but his nationality shows that there still is contact to the Swiss Mennonites. Pfarrer Habegger tried to help me, but knew nothing about the time before 1743 (when Jacob HAURY must have lived in Hamm.) The facts are: Local protestant church- records of Hamm, where the Hof Iberheim belonged to, Mennonites are bearly not mentioned. Mennonites themselves wrote nothing in registers. They had none by reasons of fear. They did not want to be registered by other people. What we know is only the following matter: 1.) In the 17th century about 100 Mennonites belonged to the community center in Ibersheim. But only 2- or 3- families lived in Hamm. 2.) The first Mennonites in Ibersheim arrived from Switzerland in the year 1661. 3.) We know the names of the first 10 settlers, which are published by Walter Ellenberger in the book "325 Jahre Mennonitengemeinde Ibersheim". 22 years later in 1683 we find a new list of the 12 "Bestaender" (farmer). Between them is no HAURY but Hans Jacob Fuhry. I studied the names registers of Switzerland (6 volumes with the names of all citizens since the 17th century) & found, that the name Fuhry is completely unknown in Switzerland. So I hoped "Fuhry" would be one of the many mistakes of the Heidelberg administrators, when they tried to write "HAURY". But now I suppose, that FUHRY still a mistake means "Forrer". A family "Forrer" from Switzerland belonged to the farmers in Ibersheim, & there was a Hans Jacob Forrer in all other lists before & after 1683. So we must return to the 18th century as the oldest time when HAURY appeared in documents in the Palatine (Burchhausen, Bolenden or Hamm). Result: The HAURY family did not belong to the first Mennonite settlers of 1661 or 1683. They arrived between 1685 & 1724. We do not yet know, when in the 40 years. After the visit to Ibersheim I went to Hamm itself, where the protestant Pastor Hofmann tried to help us. He loaned me the "Chronicle of Hamm" & gave me as a present the book by A. Trieb: "Ibersheim am Rhein, Geschichte des Ortes:. I studied them both, but no HAURY appeared. That means, that until this moment there are only two fountains, of which I know, that they exist, but did not read yet. One is the Ortsarchiv of Hamm. It is contained in 20 large chests, stored in the Rathaus of Worms. Until the documents are unclassified, it is of no use to go there. The other book in the parsonage of Hamm, badly written, which is more or less a chronicle of all remarkable events like war & hail recorded by the pastor between community problems & the birth of illegitimate children. It is a task of several days, to study it. There could be something about Mennonites, but I am not sure. Before we can get notice of the Ortsarchive & the book, let us repeat, what the Mennonite Registers of Guth & Waldner tell us: We must begin with Hamm, mentioned in Bolanden in connection with the marriage of Christine Schmidt/Stauffer & your ancestor 32. Jakob Hauri died 1789 with 71 years & was born around 1718. He was ca 25, when he married, & he probably arrived in Bolanden few years before. About the place where he came from we learn by Mennonite lists 1737 Mennonites in Hamm: Johannes Frick, Heinrich Rohers widow, Jackob Haney (must be HAURY). 1738: Johannes Frick, wife, 3 children, 2 employed men. Heinrich Rohers widow, 2 children. Jakob Rohrer, wife, no children. Jakob HAURY, wife, 4 children. 1743: Heinrich Rohrers widow, 2 children. Johannes Rohrer, wife, 2 children. Johannes Fricks widow, 1 child. NO HAURY !! It is clear, that the names of 1737 meaned households. But the composition of the HAURY family can be seen only in the year 1738. - 1743 they all had gone. If they all had died by a pest, the pastor would have noted. So I think, that they moved, but where to? Consider the parents & 4-children. I mean Jacob, the father in Hamm 1737 & 1738 only can be the father of Jacob (No 32) in Bolanden. We may ask, whether No 32 is one of the 4-children. The word "Child" means only the relation- ship to the parents, it declares nothing about age. Even adult children still figure as children. When No 32 was born 1718, then he had 20 years of age in the record of 1738. It is known, that the commissions, who count the Mennonites sometimes needed 2-years until they returned to Heidelberg & wrote the records. Then Jakob, the son probably stood with his parents & brethren until he was 18. I imagine he belonged to the four in 1736/1738/1738, & he then probably did not take part, when his parents moved with the younger kids. But Jakob the son went his own way - probably towards Bolanden. Nothing is told about Jakob's the sons parents & brethren after 1738 with one exception: His brother Melchior dies in Bruchhausen & Jakob inherited his money the 15-10-1759. Probably the death of Melchior many years before 1759. Mennonite records at the only other HAURY site begin earlier than those of Hamm: Burchhausen 1724: Fwllmann & Hackmann, 2 wealthy farmer families. Bachmann, the weaver, no wealth. Jakob Schneyder (74 years) no wealth. Hans Haurich (HAURY?) dayworker, no wealth. 1738: Melchior HAURY, the older & wife. Melchior HAURY, the younger & wife. 1743: Melchior HAURY, with wife & daughter. 1751: Melchior HAURY's widow marries Johannes Graf. 1.) Hans is not wealthy. Because he arrived from Switzerland without his fortune?? Or because he is an old man & had no opportunity to take his own farm?? What we can imagine is: he did not belong to the generations of the brothers Jakob & Melchior, because in the year 1724 Jakob was only six. He probably was not so old like Jakob Schneyder, whose age 74 is expressively mentioned. I think that he belonged to the generation of Jakob's & Melchior's father. Jakob's father (No 64) married before 1718 & may have been born around 1690. This generation was about 35 in the year 1724. I must permite, that Hans even, if he was the father of No 64, had no such remarkable age, that the record of 1724 must mention it. Let us forget Hans, until we know more about him. 2.) The two Melchiors. The distinction "Older" & "Younger" can be used for father & son, but also for two cousins. That means the difference of age can be 25 years or more or only some weeks. In Bruchhausen we only can guess. For example, that the younger couple, which had no children in 1738 5-years later in 1843 had a daughter. They probably in 1738 just married. And it would be very practicable, if the older Melchiors were so old, that they died. But we must be careful with the age of the older one. He surely is not the father of the younger, because one of the Melchiors must be a son of Jacob (No 64) in Hamm. The older Melchior is a cousin or unkle of the younger Milchior. But what ever happened to one of the couples, since 1743 there is no choice anymore. It would be easy to suppose, that Melchior the younger was a brother of Jakob in Bolanden, that his wife & daughter died before he died, & that he left fortune to his brother. But all theories are nonsense, because Melchior's wife did not die. He died, & his widow married in the year 1751. That means, that the dead husband of the widow died 8 years before Jakob in Bolanden inherited, & that Jakob got the money instead of the widow. Impossible! Of course it is possible, that the other Melchior returned to Bruchhausen, lost his wife & then died himself. But we better end speculations until we know more. I am a little disappointed, that my search had no more results. It is difficult to decide, what to do next. My idea is to end our hitherto system, & you pay a fee & I run around until the money is spent. It will be better, that I try to find a new solution, & inform you & ask for a new fee. The solution does not depend only on good will. The ways are: 1.) Archive in Worms. I have no influence there. 2.) Chronicle in Hamm, maybe of use. 3.) Church records of Rohrbach near Heidelberg, probably enclose documents about Bruchhausen. 4.) Records in Schoftland/Hirschtal. In Schoftland I have another task, which obliges me to read the registers of 100 years line for line & page for page. Any little notice about Mennonites could not escape me. And after Schoftland I still can return to the Palatine. If ever I have the impression, that I can start again on the HAURY trail, I shall inform you at once. Sincerely yours signed:/Max Naumann/. -SUMMARY OF MAX NAUMANN LETTER- 1661 first 10-settler Mennonite families in Ibersheim from Switzerland. Re:"325 Jahre Mennoninten-gemeinde Ibersheim" by Walter Ellenberger. 1683 a new list of 12 Bestaender (farmer), but no HAURY listed. The first HAURY family listed arrived between 1685 & 1724. Protestant Pastor Hofmann of Hamm had book "Chronicle of Hamm" or "Ibersheim am Rhein, Geschichte des Ortes" by A. Trieb. contained no HAURY names. 20 large chests stored in the Rathaus of Worms contain the "Ortsarchiv of Hamm" & are classified & not available for reference as of Apr1988. The parsonage of Hamm contains a badly written chronicle of remarkable events like war & hail recorded by the pastor between community problems & the birth of illegitimate children. A task of several days study. It may contain some Mennonite entries. 17th Century about 100 Mennonite families in Ibersheim & 2 or 3 families in Hamm. "The Mennonite-lists of the Palatine in the 18th Century" edited by G. Waldner & Professor Guth. 1737 Mennonites in Hamm included Jacob Hanay (HAURY?) 1738 Mennonites in Hamm included Jakob HAURY, wife, 4 children. Could be father of Jakob1 HAURY. 1743 Mennonites in Hamm - no HAURYs. Burchhausen Mennonite records of HAURYs: 1724 Hans Haurich (HAURY?) dayworker, no wealth. Could be the wool weaver from Switzerland and grand-father of Jakob-1. 1738 Melchior HAURY, the older & wife. + Melchior HAURY, the younger & wife. 1743 Melchior HAURY with wife & daughter. 1753 Melchior HAURY widow wed Johannes Graf. Possible search trails: 1. Archive in Worms. 2. Chronicle in Hamm. 3. Church records of Rohrbach near Heidelberg may contain documents about "Bruchhausen. 4. Records in Schoftland/Hirschtal. --- 17Apr1989. Anabaptist-Mennonite data furnished by Mary Ellen HAURY Hutchison. ANABAPTIST-MENNONITE FAMILY TREE SWITZERLAND 1525 ZURICH-PROTESTANT REFORMATION-ANABAPTIST (RE-BAPTIZERS) -- |-1530s-1540s > HOLLAND -> N GERMANY | | (PRUSSIA) | |-1789-1830 -> RUSSIA | \-1870s-1920s-1940s N AMERICA| |-1530s-1540s > CENT. & SOUTH GERMANY | |--------| | |-1680-1750 -> N AMERICA | |-1693-1697 AMISH FORMED IN SWITZERLAND |-1700s-1800s -> N AMERICA AMERICA INCLUDES: USA, CANADA, VIRGINIA, PENNSYLVANIA, OHIO, INDIANA, ILLINOIS, KANSAS, ONTARIO, WESTERN CANADA & MOST OTHER STATES & PROVINCES. NUMBERS: MENNONITES 221,000; AMISH 34,000 NORTH AMERICA MOST LOCATED IN: PA, IL, IA, PA, OH, IN, IL, OH, ONT, IN, W.CAN. OTHER STATES/PROVINCES MENNONITES: RURAL/URBAN, BECOMING URBAN RAPILY. OCCUPATIONS: WIDE VARITIY (TEACHERS, DRs, NURSES,SOCIAL WK, LAWYERS, BUSINESS, ENGINEERS, FARMERS). CHANGABLE. EDUCATED. MODERN DRESS. CRITICAL OF EXCESS, MATERIALISM & WESTERN SOCIETY & DISREGARD OF EARTH. MODERN TECHNOLOGY. ECUMENICAL. CONCERNED FOR SIMPLICITY, GOOD RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP. CHURCH BUILDINGS. ENGLISH LANGUAGE. ADULT BAPTISM. NON-VIOLENCE. EVANGELISM. AMISH: RURAL GROUPS: FARMING, TRADESMEN. RESIST CHANGE. TRADITIONAL DRESS. FROZEN IN TIME, LATE 19TH CENTURY. LESS OPEN, SIMPLE LIFE, NON-MATERIALIST, PLAIN CLOTHES, NO ELECTRICITY, LIMITED MACHINERY USE, STRICT RULES. CHURCH IN BARNS/HOMES. ADULT BAPTISM. PREACHERS ELDERS. LITTLE SHARING OF FAITH. MENNONITE CHURCH 1. MEMBERSHIP- APPROXIMATELY 750,000. 2. WHERE: 57 COUNTRIES; 6 CONTINENTS. 3. ONE OF MANY BRANCHES WITHIN THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION (NOT A SEPARATE RELIGION OR CULT, ETC.) 4. AS A PART OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION, WE SHARE WITH OTHER CHRISTIAN GROUPS A BELIEF IN GOD, THE IMPORTANCE OF JESUS AS OUR SAVIOR AND LORD, THE USE OF THE BIBLE AS A GUIDE ON HOW TO BE FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS. WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST AND ARE PART OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH COMMUNITY (OPEN TO WORKING WITH OTHER CHRISTIANS- ECUMENICAL EMPHASIS). 5. SOME THINGS THE CHURCH EMPHASIZES: A. VOLUNTARY MEMBERSHIP- ADULT DECISION - ADULT BAPTISM. B. STRONG EMPHASIS ON CHURCH AS A COMMUNITY OF SISTERS/BROTHERS WHO ARE WILLING TO HELP EACH OTHER (SPIRITUALLY, EMOTIONALLY, MATERIALLY/FINANCIALLY). C. STRONG SERVICE ORIENTATION - HELP ONE'S FELLOW MAN (BOTH SPIRITUALLY-SHARING ONE'S FAITH AND MATERIALLY-HELPING THE POOR AND NEEDY, WORKING FOR ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL JUSTICE). D. FOLLOWING JESUS AS LORD OF OUR LIVES - FOLLOWING JESUS' TEACHING ON ECONOMIC SHARING AND NON-VIOLENCE (NOT PASSIVITY IN THE FACE OF EVIL AND INJUSTICE, BUT NON-VIOLENT RESISTANCE). GLOBAL GIFTS 79TH MICH RD. MARTYRS MIRROR, BOOK ABOUT THE MENNONITES. --- A HAURY NAMEPLACE: Geogr, Lex. der Schwiz II Neuenburg 1904, Page 523 Haurihauser (Kt. Aargau, Bez. und Gem. Zofingen). 469 in. Gruppe von 3 Hausern in einen Klioen Thalchen am S. - Fuss des Buhenenbergs; 2,5 km no der Station Zofingen der Line Luzern - Olten 28 reform. Ew. 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Hello Howery family, Just when the Howery line lights up like the fourth of July I came done with the flu and after seven hard days am back at my computer and glad to see so much good information flowing. Let me introduce myself as I have only written a few times before and new family are now out there. My mother was a Howery and got me started on research. Most of my information came from her as she liked to walk through cemeteries writing down names and dates. I could never figure out why she did that. I now understand. I come from the Indiana line of : Jacob Howery (11 Feb 1814 - 9 Dec 1885) m: Sarah (Sally ) Elvira Thomas (20 Feb 1820 - 6 Dec 1885) ch: George W. Howery (1 Jan 1844 - 11 Apr 1926) m: Clarissa Cook (4 Dec 1853 - 2 Dec 1904) ch: Alonzo (Lon) W. Howery (14 Jul 1875 - 30 Oct 1961) m: Margaret (Maggie) B. Fox (28 Apr 1879 - 26 Feb 1947) Jacob and Sarah had 13 children and I have information on them if anybody needs it. Jacob was born in Ohio according to the 1850,60,70 Indiana Census. I believe he is a son of Samuel Howery and Maria Roseboom. The 1820 Indiana Census of Franklin County shows: Samuel Howery ………. 310001 40010 That’s (3) males under 10 and (4) females under 10 (1) male 10-15, (1) male 45+, (1) female 26-44 I am attempting to confirm all the children of Samuel Howery with both Mary Sifford and Maria Roseboom. In 1820 Samuel had (8) children at home. It appears he had at least (5) more after 1820. Some of the children from his first marriage were probably married before 1820. He was a very productive individual. I have proofs on William, Daniel, Jane, Phebe & partial on Jacob. If someone out there is tied to one of Samuel’s other children, please let us know your source of proof so I can add them to my confirmed list. I am trying to document all the Howery’s that came to Indiana and where they went from here. I am thankful to see some information on John George Howery in Dearborn County as I do not have anything but an 1820 Census record on him. Keep the information coming especially documented proof which I so dearly overlooked in my early research and my constantly kicking myself about. If I have repeated information, I am sorry. I have not yet had time to read all of the Howery mail yet but wanted to join in. Ron Oberle Greenfield, Indiana roby39@aol.com

Fred, if you'll ask me again this summer, I'll try to dig out the article and post it, along with a translation if I have one. I'm currently a student, guiltily stealing a few minutes here and there for genealogy. As much as I'd like to respond immediately, I just don't have time to dig out the article, type all that German, and try to polish up my translation for publication right now. Also, I do have information on several other Hauri coats of arms as used by different branches of the Swiss family in later generations (but not all of them!). I don't know what else to add, except that by far the majority of them were from the Reinach family, which provided so many Untervoegts [approx = deputy bailiff] to Reinach that they had more need of heraldry than the family in other villages. One major exception to the dove theme is the family at Zofingen, which used an owl perched on a demi millrind (bottom half of a mill-wheel). If anyone wants to see an illustration of the arms as taken from the Liber Vitae - albeit an extremely poor illustration - visit http://members.tde.com/jhowery/howery.html I apologize in advance for anyone who looks there and is disappointed by the quality. The color isn't good and there is no red on the dove's beak or legs. I should really get a better reproduction - just haven't had time. Better yet, perhaps one of these days I'll have my polaroid of that page of the Liber Vitae scanned. Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: fredhaury@juno.com [mailto:fredhaury@juno.com] Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 7:30 PM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: "Justin C.S. Howery" <jhowery@tde.com>: [HOWERY-L] Coat of arms Justin, Good article. Do you have more to share on Coat of Arms? Can you post the German article for our files? Fred --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: "Justin C.S. Howery" <jhowery@tde.com> To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOWERY-L] Coat of arms Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:29:43 -0600 If anyone is interested in the "real" Hauri coat of arms: it is probably Azure a dove volant Argent beaked and legged Gules [blue shield, white dove flying facing left, red beak and legs]. These are the arms used about 1415 by one of the Canons Regular at the Collegiate Church of Beromuenster. The Beromuenster Hauris were the original stem-family of the Hauris at Sursee, Reinach, and Schoeftland, and probably also of the Hauris elsewhere in Canton Aargau. There is a beautiful illustration of these arms in the Liber Vitae of Beromuenster (a book in which the church recorded the names of those for whom the Canons said annual prayers of remembrance). Unlike many other European countries, the Swiss did not associate coats of arms only with the nobility. Almost every burgher family had a coat of arms (which is still true today). Every official of any sort had to have a coat of arms for use on his official seal. For the Hauris, there are quite a few variations of the above coat of arms as used by different descendants of the Beromuenster family in their various capacities over the centuries. Most of the variations have a blue shield, a white dove, and generally a few other objects (often a millrind, in allusion the the Hauri's traditional occupation of miller). As an interesting sidelight, I have a copy of an article (in German) that argues that the dove used by the Hauris was originally a gamecock (fighting rooster with his comb and wattle cut off) and that the arms were a visual pun on the name Hauri (= a too loud person). According to the article, poor draghtsmanship accounts for the rooster being turned into a dove over the course of successive drawings. I'm no authority on birds, but there might be some truth to this. When I showed my aunt the picture from the Liber Vitae she asked why in the world the coat of arms is a chicken. I then had the pleasure of explaining that it only looks like a chicken :) Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery

As a small refinement on your very detailed information - The surname Hauri is from the Alemannic dialect of German (the dialect spoken in the southwestern part of Germany - Swabia - of which German Switzerland was a part), according Dr. J. J. Siegrist at the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Aargau. In Alemannic, the verb "hauren" means to speak loudly. The noun form, hauri, could be applied to a person who was loud, high-spirited, or a boaster. I asked Dr. Siegrist in one letter about other theories, including (a) that the name became attached as a surname to the town crier, (b) that the name became attached as a surname to the speaker or judge of a local court, and (c) that the name might be derived from hug+hart (see Fred's message below). Dr. Siegrist characterized these various theories as "nonsense." I asked one of my correspondents in Switzerland whether the name Hauri might actually be derived from the village of Hoeri, north of Zurich. The answer was that it is not possible on linguistic grounds. I'm totally clueless when it comes to understanding arguments about which sounds can change over the centuries into which other sounds, so I can't even guess why Hoeri could not change into Hauri. The earliest (possible) use of the surname (or a similar surname) was by "Chuondradus dictus Hoerinus" [Conrad called Hauri, or perhaps Conrad called Horn], a knight living at the Lazarite Commandery of Gfenn near Bern, named in a charter dated 13 April 1272. I question this information because the copy of the charter that I have does not have the extra "I" in his name (it's Hoernus not Hoerinus), so I think it would be more likely that it was the Latin form of Horn rather than the Latin form of Hauri. The next mention of the name is 10 years later in a charter dated 8 February 1282 at Steffisburg in Bern. This charter mentions "Chuondradus dictus Hovri" [Conrad called Hauri], a peasant who is mentioned again in 1308. There are scattered references to various Hauris in the Interlaken region of Bern (including Steffisburg) until 1336. These people might or might not have been related to one another. Also a 1299 reference to a Metzger Hauri, of Freiburg, who was killed during a war with his village and the Bishop of Strasburg. I haven't been able to identify this particular Freiburg (it's a common place name). I am not familiar with the theory that the surname originated in St. Gall. According to the Staatsarchivs des Kantons Bern and des Kantons Aargau, the family originated in Beromuenster and spread from there to the rest of German-speaking Switzerland. This statement might be a bit on the dogmatic side -- it looks to me like the Ulrich Hauri who lived at Beromuenter before 1313 (when his widow Rechenza had a grant from the church there) really came from the Interlaken region of Bern. Because the lords of Steffisburg (where several Hauris were mentioned during the preceding 30 years) were patrons of the church at Beromuenster and sent their younger sons to be Canons there, I think it is likely that Ulrich Hauri accompanied one of the von Steffisburg family to Beromuenster and settled there. From this time on, and particularly from the 1400s on, there are an increasing number of references to Hauris throughout German-speaking Switzerland and southern Germany. On a related topic, the -in ending was a common feminine form of most surnames throughout at least southern Germany, Switzerland, and Pennsylvania in the 18th century. I can't speak for earlier or later practices, or for northern Germany. A relevant example: A "Nani Haurin" [who must have been baptized "Anna Hauri" - Nani was a common nickname for Anna, Haurin was the feminine form of Hauri] married Valentin Heiser in 1747 at the Lutheran Church in Trappe, Montgomery Co, Pennsylvania (apparently as his second wife, since she was godmother to his daughter Maria Heiser four years earlier). It would be interesting to find out what relation she was to Hans, Ulrich, and Jacob! Justin C.S. Howery Denver, Colorado jhowery@tde.com http://www.members.tde.com/jhowery -----Original Message----- From: fredhaury@juno.com [mailto:fredhaury@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 2:17 PM To: HOWERY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOWERY-L] HAU-ANC.TXT file. File: HAU-NAM-.TXT fredhaury@juno.com Notes on HAURY surnames. FYI, If I sent this eariler, forgive me. Parts of it may also appear in my "HIST-_" files that were posted. fredhaury@juno.com ---- File: HAU-ANC.TXT HAURY ANCESTOR SURNAMES The `en' ending of names was often changed to y, a, e, o, i, er and/or ing. An `n' at the end of a name may indicate plural case, i.e. HAURIN = plural of HAURI. HAURI variations: HAURIE, HAURY, HAURIN, HAURING, HAUREN, HAURA, HAURE, HAUREY, HAUREZ, HAURO, HAUER, HOURI, HOWERY, HOWRY, HAURRIS, HARRIS, HARRY. --- In 1963 Gottfried HOLZ of Zurich, Switzerland wrote to Emil HAURY of Tucson, AZ: "The HAURY with `y' originated in Kanton St. Gallen in NW Switzerland. The Germany HAURYs seem to have come from there, a rough mountainous country, often in the past suffered from economic crises." --- Ref. Hans Bahlow "Deutsches Namenleixkon" at University of New Mexico library, CS2545 B35, lists the following names 1. HAURY, HAURI (n) nur in der Schweiz,=))Schreier(( (zu alem. hauren); vgl. Brumsy ))Brummer(( (zu brumsen). 2. Schreier s. Schrei: Vgl. Schreijagg-hans, -vogel. Auch Schreiert. 3. Brummer (Hbg. oft, Meckl.): ndd.=)) Dnurrer, Schreier ((, auch Brumm (e). Joh. Brummere 1339 Lub. Vgl Bummegrelle 1369 Brschwg., grelle = ))Speiss(( wie in Schleppergrelle. Ein Brummelbar 1366 Grfsw. Zu Brummel vgl. aber brum = brom = bram )) Moor (( in den ON. Brummel (Westf: Brmlo) u. Brumsel/Ems (Brum-seli) wie Bramsel (Bram-seli 890)! --- 4. Brumsi (alem.) mebst Brumser: ))Brummkopf(( (Brech S. 231, Nied 5.58, Tobler S 119). Gselb. Brumebere, Ritter 1250 Rudesh.; H. Brumsi 1253 Schaffh.; Heinr. Brumsi (Brumser) 1421/32 Villingen. Michel Brumser 1378 Frkf. ---Ref./ "My American Ancestors & Their Descendents" by Edward Bowman ESPENSHADE, privately printed 1950, 690 pages. Sec. 1, Chap IX. "The HAURIs came from Switz. The name is of Germanic origin. Die Deutschen Families Namen defines the name as `ein uber lauter Mensch (sudd),' translated as 'one ever loud man or personage'or `a high 1-Spirited person.' The "America Germanica" V. 4, 1902, published an article written by Dr. Oscar Kuhns, studies in "German Family Names", p. 305,explains that the name HAURI is from two stems, - (HUG + HART) that the stem HUG means mink, spirit; Dr. Kuhns neglects to define the stem HART which may be defined as hard, sharp, or severe, thus a sharp minded or high spirited person is derived. Following the usual anglicizing of HAURI, `au' becomes `ow' or `ou', and `ri' becomes `ry', we have the anglicized form HOWRY. This form of spelling is the most prevalent today and is the form used in this book except for the first and second generations which are called HAURI. The early assessment lists have spelled the name HAURE, HAURICH, HAURY, HOWERY, while the first US census (1790) lists them a HOUREY. The records of the Lancaster Court House are indexed as Howry."/--- --- Ref. "Deutsche Namenkunde" by Max Gottschald, UNM Library CS2545 G6. HAURI: 1. Schwiz.,, Uhu". 2,, uberlauter mensch Schweiz = Swiss. Uhu = Eagle-owl. uberlaut = overloud, too noisy. Mensch = human being, man, person, fellow, people. --- --- Ref. Shirley J HULETT: HAURY is originally a Swiss name which means "town crier". See previous paragraph: overloud person? --- Ref. Roger HAURY, Rueil Malmaison, France. "The name HAURY is a very old name from Gascon (Region of South-west France) which was spelled `HAURE' and means Blacksmith. --- rogerhaury@msn.com --- Ref. Pierre - Paul HAURY, Paris, France. The origin of the name is `HAURE' & means `Forge' in the old dialect of SW France (Gascon) and HAURY means Blacksmith. --- --- From: "Roger HAURY" <rogerhaury@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 98 Subject: Genealogie. Friday 27 February 1998 About your E .mail dated 26 February 1998. 1.Haurin is not the plural of Hauri but that is the Surname giving to the Haury or Hauri women in Alsace or Allemagne since the origin at 1792. After this date the same surname was gave to the men and the women. 2. In France, Suisse and Deutschland, I never find the various Hauru, Haura, Haurez, Hauro, Haurris, Haurris, Harris, Harry, Hauring. 3. Haurie is not a various of Hauri or Haury. We find this spelling only in the south/west of France near the Spain, that is this surname that mean forge in french. 4. Hauer is a German surname, no link with Hauri. 5. Howery and Howry are the English spelling of Haury because the W and the U in Suisse and also in Germany have the same pronunciation. In France we say HORI because AU is pronounced O. 6. Hauri is the spelling of the origin of our name in Suisse since 1300 and that is also the origin of the all Haury in the world, except the Haury from Charente in France who are spelled Horry or Hory before the 18th century. No link with our family. 7. I also find the Ory surname in Alsace but I never find a link with our name since the 16th century. I also find an other Haury family from the west of France for who the name was spelled Ory in 18th century and Oury before in 17th century. 8. I send with this mail a pedigree chart from Haury Peter born in Berg/Alsace the :3 October 1846, his ancestor was Hauri johannes born in about 1640 to Hirschtal (5042,Suisse, Canton de Bern), wife unknown at this time. He emigrated in about 1670 to Alsace . He was from the reformer religion. That will be fine of you if you send me the descendant chart of Haury peter and also from his two sisters if they also emigrated. 9. PS : I did not find the E.Mail of Shirley Hulett. -- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

File: HAU-NAM-.TXT fredhaury@juno.com Notes on HAURY surnames. FYI, If I sent this eariler, forgive me. Parts of it may also appear in my "HIST-_" files that were posted. fredhaury@juno.com ---- File: HAU-ANC.TXT HAURY ANCESTOR SURNAMES The `en' ending of names was often changed to y, a, e, o, i, er and/or ing. An `n' at the end of a name may indicate plural case, i.e. HAURIN = plural of HAURI. HAURI variations: HAURIE, HAURY, HAURIN, HAURING, HAUREN, HAURA, HAURE, HAUREY, HAUREZ, HAURO, HAUER, HOURI, HOWERY, HOWRY, HAURRIS, HARRIS, HARRY. --- In 1963 Gottfried HOLZ of Zurich, Switzerland wrote to Emil HAURY of Tucson, AZ: "The HAURY with `y' originated in Kanton St. Gallen in NW Switzerland. The Germany HAURYs seem to have come from there, a rough mountainous country, often in the past suffered from economic crises." --- Ref. Hans Bahlow "Deutsches Namenleixkon" at University of New Mexico library, CS2545 B35, lists the following names 1. HAURY, HAURI (n) nur in der Schweiz,=))Schreier(( (zu alem. hauren); vgl. Brumsy ))Brummer(( (zu brumsen). 2. Schreier s. Schrei: Vgl. Schreijagg-hans, -vogel. Auch Schreiert. 3. Brummer (Hbg. oft, Meckl.): ndd.=)) Dnurrer, Schreier ((, auch Brumm (e). Joh. Brummere 1339 Lub. Vgl Bummegrelle 1369 Brschwg., grelle = ))Speiss(( wie in Schleppergrelle. Ein Brummelbar 1366 Grfsw. Zu Brummel vgl. aber brum = brom = bram )) Moor (( in den ON. Brummel (Westf: Brmlo) u. Brumsel/Ems (Brum-seli) wie Bramsel (Bram-seli 890)! --- 4. Brumsi (alem.) mebst Brumser: ))Brummkopf(( (Brech S. 231, Nied 5.58, Tobler S 119). Gselb. Brumebere, Ritter 1250 Rudesh.; H. Brumsi 1253 Schaffh.; Heinr. Brumsi (Brumser) 1421/32 Villingen. Michel Brumser 1378 Frkf. ---Ref./ "My American Ancestors & Their Descendents" by Edward Bowman ESPENSHADE, privately printed 1950, 690 pages. Sec. 1, Chap IX. "The HAURIs came from Switz. The name is of Germanic origin. Die Deutschen Families Namen defines the name as `ein uber lauter Mensch (sudd),' translated as 'one ever loud man or personage'or `a high 1-Spirited person.' The "America Germanica" V. 4, 1902, published an article written by Dr. Oscar Kuhns, studies in "German Family Names", p. 305,explains that the name HAURI is from two stems, - (HUG + HART) that the stem HUG means mink, spirit; Dr. Kuhns neglects to define the stem HART which may be defined as hard, sharp, or severe, thus a sharp minded or high spirited person is derived. Following the usual anglicizing of HAURI, `au' becomes `ow' or `ou', and `ri' becomes `ry', we have the anglicized form HOWRY. This form of spelling is the most prevalent today and is the form used in this book except for the first and second generations which are called HAURI. The early assessment lists have spelled the name HAURE, HAURICH, HAURY, HOWERY, while the first US census (1790) lists them a HOUREY. The records of the Lancaster Court House are indexed as Howry."/--- --- Ref. "Deutsche Namenkunde" by Max Gottschald, UNM Library CS2545 G6. HAURI: 1. Schwiz.,, Uhu". 2,, uberlauter mensch Schweiz = Swiss. Uhu = Eagle-owl. uberlaut = overloud, too noisy. Mensch = human being, man, person, fellow, people. --- --- Ref. Shirley J HULETT: HAURY is originally a Swiss name which means "town crier". See previous paragraph: overloud person? --- Ref. Roger HAURY, Rueil Malmaison, France. "The name HAURY is a very old name from Gascon (Region of South-west France) which was spelled `HAURE' and means Blacksmith. --- rogerhaury@msn.com --- Ref. Pierre - Paul HAURY, Paris, France. The origin of the name is `HAURE' & means `Forge' in the old dialect of SW France (Gascon) and HAURY means Blacksmith. --- --- From: "Roger HAURY" <rogerhaury@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 98 Subject: Genealogie. Friday 27 February 1998 About your E .mail dated 26 February 1998. 1.Haurin is not the plural of Hauri but that is the Surname giving to the Haury or Hauri women in Alsace or Allemagne since the origin at 1792. After this date the same surname was gave to the men and the women. 2. In France, Suisse and Deutschland, I never find the various Hauru, Haura, Haurez, Hauro, Haurris, Haurris, Harris, Harry, Hauring. 3. Haurie is not a various of Hauri or Haury. We find this spelling only in the south/west of France near the Spain, that is this surname that mean forge in french. 4. Hauer is a German surname, no link with Hauri. 5. Howery and Howry are the English spelling of Haury because the W and the U in Suisse and also in Germany have the same pronunciation. In France we say HORI because AU is pronounced O. 6. Hauri is the spelling of the origin of our name in Suisse since 1300 and that is also the origin of the all Haury in the world, except the Haury from Charente in France who are spelled Horry or Hory before the 18th century. No link with our family. 7. I also find the Ory surname in Alsace but I never find a link with our name since the 16th century. I also find an other Haury family from the west of France for who the name was spelled Ory in 18th century and Oury before in 17th century. 8. I send with this mail a pedigree chart from Haury Peter born in Berg/Alsace the :3 October 1846, his ancestor was Hauri johannes born in about 1640 to Hirschtal (5042,Suisse, Canton de Bern), wife unknown at this time. He emigrated in about 1670 to Alsace . He was from the reformer religion. That will be fine of you if you send me the descendant chart of Haury peter and also from his two sisters if they also emigrated. 9. PS : I did not find the E.Mail of Shirley Hulett. -- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Bonnie - Have you done much research in the Dane Co. area on the Howerys? I'd be interested in exchanging info with you if you have. After all, my great great grandfather William Thomas Howery was the nephew of your Davidson Howery! It's great to see all the activity on this list. I'm just beginning to sort out all the information available on the Howerys but really enjoy input from Justin and Fred. Thanks! connie

My Line: Am sending all of this at Connie's request and in the hope that some of use will dicover clues and/or cousins Shirley Hulett Ancestors of Jacob G. HAURY Generation No. 1 1. Jacob G. HAURY, born Abt. 1876 in GRAFTON, Lorain, Ohio; died 1954 in ,,Ohio. He was the son of 2. Jacob G. HAURY and 3. Mary M. HAMM. He married (1) Claribel HUNTLEY 1909 in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. She was the daughter of Fred A. HUNTLEY and Cora Belle COOK. Notes for Jacob G. HAURY: Loved practical jokes. Played the "spoons". Claribel sometimes called him Yak-ob. Was a dealer in farm implements, buggies and later cars. Lost his shirt in the depression and turned to farming on the 40 acres he owned in Erhart, Medina County, Ohio. Had a illness in the 1940's relating to his kidneys and was bedridden for several years. Made a recoveryin late 1940's and built a house for Claribel on Erhart Road. Data Sources; 1920 Census, Supervisors Dist 14 Enumeration Dist 51 Sheet 13 A, 1910 Census, Sup Dist 13, Enumeration Dist 116, Sheet 5A Birth/Death dates based on tombstone Burial: Spring Grove Cem, Medina, Ohio Christening: ,,Ohio Notes for Claribel HUNTLEY: Raised Episcopalian, converted to Catholicism for marriage. Was raised in Kansas by aunt Jenny Huntley Bemis (Mrs. Henry Eveleth Bemis). Jenny taught her to play the piano. She returned to her parents as a teenager and was an itinerant piano teacher, traveling by horse to her pupils homes. When her favorite horse was frightened, it bucked her and then walked to her side, stepping on her elbow and crushing it. She had a pin placed in her arm in 1905. Prior to surgery, doctors gave her a choice of having her arm permanently straight or bent perpendicular to the ground. She said she chose the bent position so she could continue to play the piano ant to be able to hold her future children. This is believed to have been the first surgery of its kind in the United States. Obituary, Medina County Gazette, 27 April 1961, Page 1 More About Claribel HUNTLEY: Burial: Spring Grove Cem, Medina, Medina, Ohio Children of Jacob HAURY and Claribel HUNTLEY are: i. Bernadine Cecilia HAURY, born January 01, 1910 in ,,Ohio; died March 30, 1991 in ,,Ohio. Notes for Bernadine Cecilia HAURY: Married to Brothers Hugh and Elton Tibbitts Children: Wesley, Dudley, Connie, Sue, Children of Hugh Tibbitts. More About Bernadine Cecilia HAURY: Burial: ,,Ohio Christening: ,,Ohio ii. Dolores M. HAURY, born May 28, 1911 in Erhart, Medina, Ohio; died January 06, 1991 in San Diego, San Diego, California; married George Karl HAAS February 15, 1941 in Valley City, Medina, Ohio, Usa. Notes for Dolores M. HAURY: Baptized at St. Martin of Tours, Catholic Church, Valley City (Liverpool) Medina Ohio. Baptismal name: Dolores Mary Haury. Priest, (Fr. Kidder?) did not believe Dolores was a saint's name so he chose Mary for her middle name. The midwife who attended the birth registered her name at the County seat. Dolores's name was registered as Violet May Haury because the midwife liked the name "Violet" better than Dolores. She was known to family members as Dolores May Haury. She discovered this a few days after she married George Haas and was seeking birth certificate due to World War II and their and plans to travel to San Diego on Honeymoon. More About George Karl HAAS: Burial: April 06, 1993, San Diego, San Diego, California iii. Barnsdall Nathanial HAURY, born January 14, 1912 in ,,Ohio; died March 12, 1991 in ,,Ohio. Notes for Barnsdall Nathanial HAURY: Married to Eleanor Neff. Children: Gilbert (Gib), Ronald (Ronnie), and Lawrence (Butch). More About Barnsdall Nathanial HAURY: Burial: ,,Ohio Christening: ,,Ohio iv. Ruby Ann HAURY, born November 20 in ,,Ohio. More About Ruby Ann HAURY: Christening: ,,Ohio v. Celeste Arutheretta HAURY, born December 15 in ,,Ohio. More About Celeste Arutheretta HAURY: Christening: ,,Ohio vi. Pearl Victoria HAURY, born May 22, 1918. vii. Arletta Marie HAURY. Generation No. 2 2. Jacob G. HAURY, born June 03, 1843 in Riedseltz, Bas Rhin, France (67160); died February 03, 1923 in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. He was the son of 4. Georges Jacques HAURY and 5. Teresia KOLB. He married 3. Mary M. HAMM. 3. Mary M. HAMM, born May 09, 1849 in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.; died February 01, 1916 in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. She was the daughter of 6. Joseph HAMM and 7. Mary Magdalene NEFF. Notes for Jacob G. HAURY: Jacob Haury, Sr. aka Jacques in French records, immigrated to US between 1847 and 1850 According to Dolores Haury Haas, he was one of many children. When they arrived in US they lost a small child at immigration site. New York? Boston? By 1900 the Haury's were living in Litchfield, Medina, Ohio. In the census of 1900 he indicated he had been living in US for 50 years and was a naturalized citizen. By 1910 he was living in Grafton, Lorain, Ohio and was a farmer and owned general farm free and clear. At the age of 75 he was living with his daughter Theresa (Mary Haury) Law next door to Jacob Haury JR. Sources: US Census Medina County, Grafton Township 1920 Supers dist 14, Enumeration Dist 51 Sheet 12B 1900 info illegible re page no. 1880 page 323 1870 page 18 !DEATH: Obituary: Medina Gazette, 6 Feb., 1923, Page 8: "HAURY: At Columbia Station on Feb. 2, Jacob O (sic) Haury, aged 79 years, 8 months. funeral at St. Martin's Church, Liverpool, Feb. 5, conducted by Rev. Er (sic) Kitter, burial at St. Martin's cemetery. Now to Theodore and Theodora. The cemetery inscription book (county genealogical society) lists a Theodore as being born in 1870, not the 1872 that you have Shirley. He died in 1958 and is buried at St. Martin's with his wife Anna A. Nilges 1873-1918, and a daughter Irene A. 1900-1918. (Maybe a little spanish flu here) A parish census taken in 1886, lists Jacob Haury, Mary Hamm and children Anton, four months; Joseph, one year; Helena (?), 8; George Jacob, 10; Theresia age 12, and Theodore age 15. More About Jacob G. HAURY: Burial: St. Martin's Cem, Valley City, Medina, Ohio More About Mary M. HAMM: Burial: St. Martin's Cem, Valley City, Ohio, U.S.A. Children of Jacob HAURY and Mary HAMM are: i. Theadora HAURY, born 1870 in GRAFTON, Lorrain, Ohio, U.S.A.; died in GRAFTON, Lorrain, Ohio, Usa. Notes for Theadora HAURY: It is possible that name Theodora was actually Theodore Haury 1900 US Census, York, Medina Count, page 224B: Thoedore Haury as born November 1872 and was a foreman of a saw mill, page 223B. His wife was Anna Nilges, born Oct 1874. Burial: GRAFTON, Lorrain, Ohio, Usa 1 ii. Jacob G. HAURY, born Abt. 1876 in GRAFTON, Lorain, Ohio; died 1954 in ,,Ohio; married Claribel HUNTLEY 1909 in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. iii. Mary HAURY, born 1876 in GRAFTON, Lorrain, Ohio, U.S.A.; died in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. More About Mary HAURY: Burial: ,,Ohio, U.S.A. Christening: ,Lorrain, Ohio, U.S.A. iv. Ellen HAURY, born 1879 in GRAFTON, Lorrain, Ohio, U.S.A.; died in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. More About Ellen HAURY: Burial: ,,Ohio, U.S.A. Christening: ,,Ohio, U.S.A. v. Frances H. HAURY, born 1882 in GRAFTON, Lorrain, Ohio; died in ,,Ohio. Notes for Frances H. HAURY: Married Name Frances H. Greulich More About Frances H. HAURY: Burial: ,,Ohio Christening: ,,Ohio vi. Josephine HAURY, born May 1885 in GRAFTON, Lorrain, Ohio; died in ,,Ohio. More About Josephine HAURY: Burial: ,Medina, Ohio Christening: ,,Ohio vii. Frank A. HAURY, born April 1886 in GRAFTON, Lorrain, Ohio; died in ,,Ohio. More About Frank A. HAURY: Burial: Medina, Ohio Christening: ,,Ohio Generation No. 3 4. Georges Jacques HAURY, born March 27, 1811 in Wingen, Bas Rhin, (67510); died June 15, 1880 in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. He was the son of 8. Georges Jacques HAURY and 9. Salome JUND. He married 5. Teresia KOLB. 5. Teresia KOLB, born October 18, 1811 in ,,,France; died in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. She was the daughter of 10. Johann KOLB and 11. Katharina HECKEL. Notes for Georges Jacques HAURY: Data Sources U.S. Census 1880: Medina County Ohio, Litchfield Township page 323 1860: Medina County Ohio, Grafton Township Page 123 Name he went by in the US was George J. Haury. Tombstone at for St. Martin of Tours Cemetery, (Row 2), Valley City Ohio: George J. Haury, born in 1811, died 15 June 1880. Theresia not with him. .Burial: St Martin's Cem, Valley City OH Also buried at St. Martin's (Row 3), son: John Haury,Tombstone states he was born 26 Nov, 1845; died 9 Nov 1914; Buried beside wife, Elizabeth, who died Dec. 15, 1902 at the age of 54 years, 9 Months at Charity Hospital, in Cleveland, according to obituary in Medina County Gazette . Notes for Teresia KOLB: Information provided by Roger Haury of Colmar, France Her name was spelled Therese in French records with accents over each e. information re Theresia from Karen Kolb at klkolb@net.bluemoon.net More About Teresia KOLB: Burial: ,,Ohio, U.S.A. Children of Georges HAURY and Teresia KOLB are: i. Katharina HAURY, born May 25, 1841 in Alsace, France; died December 26, 1841 in Alsace, France. 2 ii. Jacob G. HAURY, born June 03, 1843 in Riedseltz, Bas Rhin, France (67160); died February 03, 1923 in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.; married Mary M. HAMM. iii. Johann HAURY, born November 26, 1844 in Riedselz, Bas Rhin, France; died November 09, 1914 in Ohio; married Elizabeth. Notes for Johann HAURY: Forename Johann is from is birth/christening records in Alsace, Bas Rhin. Went by John in the US . Married to Elizabeth, they were parents Anna R. Haury who died at age 11 in 1880. Notes from Fred Haury say they had a daughter who died in WWI flu epidemic. Believed to have served in 23rd Ohio volunteer Infantry, company A. May have been wounded in battle in Virginia. Indexed records transcribed in text form indicate that he enlisted at the age of 18, served 3 years and received a medical discharge. Buried at St. Martin's (Row 3), John Haury. Tombstone states he was born 26 Nov, 1845; died 9 Nov 1914; Buried beside wife, Elizabeth, who died Dec. 15, 1902 at the age of 54 years, 9 Months at Charity Hospital, in Cleveland, according to obituary in Medina County Gazette. Johann HAURY:Burial: St. Martin's Cem, Valley City, Medina, Ohio Notes for Elizabeth: Obituary, Medina County Ohio: Died at Charity Hospital, Cleveland, at 54 years Tombstone indicates date of death and notes 54 years, 9 months Burial: St. Martin's Cem, Ohio, Valley City iv. George HAURY, born April 30, 1847 in Alsace, Bas Rhin, France. In Alsatian records his name is listed as Georg v. Frantz Joseph HAURY, born August 18, 1849 in Alsace, Bas Rhin, France; married Mary A. Notes for Frantz Joseph HAURY: Immigrated in 1861 according the 1900 US Census for York, Medina County. In 1900, they had been married 24 years. Alsace immigration index has a Frantz Joseph Haury, born in Riedseltz, who immigrated 01/01/1868 reference film #2 Friends referred to him as Joe Haury. vi. Daughter HAURY, married George MESSMER. Notes for Daughter HAURY: Sister of John, Jake, Joe and George Haury married Messmar (George), according to Mary Neff Brodt. Perhaps this was George Messner. (?) vi. Joseph J. HAMM, born 1864 in GRAFTON, Lorain, Ohio, U.S.A.; died in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.. Generation No. 4 8. Georges Jacques HAURY, born 1774 in Riedseltz, Bas Rhin, France, (67160). He was the son of 16. Jean HAURY and 17. Magdeleine HIZFELD. He married 9. Salome JUND. 9. Salome JUND. Notes for Georges Jacques HAURY: May have been father to Augustus Haury, buried at St. Martin's Cemetery, Liverpool/Valley City, Ohio. Augustus and wife Sophie were divorced in mid to late 1800's in Medina County Child of Georges HAURY and Salome JUND is: 4 i. Georges Jacques HAURY, born March 27, 1811 in Wingen, Bas Rhin, (67510); died June 15, 1880 in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.; married Teresia KOLB. 10. Johann KOLB, born June 24, 1778; died March 01, 1859. He was the son of 20. Jacob KOLB and 21. Anna Margaretha KUEBLER. He married 11. Katharina HECKEL September 17, 1805. 11. Katharina HECKEL, born February 02, 1784; died October 05, 1834. She was the daughter of 22. Joseph HECKEL and 23. Katharina HEINZ. Children of Johann KOLB and Katharina HECKEL are: i. Maria Eva KOLB, born September 17, 1806. ii. Katharina KOLB, born May 02, 1809; married Joseph KOLB. Notes for Joseph KOLB: 8 children 5 iii. Teresia KOLB, born October 18, 1811 in ,,,France; died in ,,Ohio, U.S.A.; married Georges Jacques HAURY. iv. Joseph KOLB, born April 10, 1814; died February 23, 1871. v. Peter KOLB, born April 19, 1816; married Katharina BARTHEL February 13, 1852. vi. Johann KOLB, born Abt. June 23, 1818; married Maria Eva BARTHEL January 17, 1851. Notes for Johann KOLB: 12 children Generation No. 5 1. Jean HAURY, born May 04, 1735 in Pfaffenweiler, Germany (79292). He was the son of 2. Andre HAURY and 3. Marie Verena HUG. He married (1) Magdeleine HIZFELD. Child of Jean HAURY and Magdeleine HIZFELD is: i. Georges Jacques HAURY, born 1774 in Riedseltz, Bas Rhin, France, (67160); married Salome JUND. Notes for Georges Jacques HAURY: May have been father to Augustus Haury, buried at St. Martin's Cemetery, Liverpool/Valley City, Ohio. Augustus and wife Sophie were divorced in mid to late 1800's in Medina County Generation No. 6 2. Andre HAURY, born 1700 in Ehrenkirchen, BRSG, (Germany). He was the son of 4. Andre HAURY and 5. Barbara REGER. He married 3. Marie Verena HUG. 3. Marie Verena HUG. Notes for Marie Verena HUG: Name Hug has an umlaut over the U Child of Andre HAURY and Marie HUG is: 1 i. Jean HAURY, born May 04, 1735 in Pfaffenweiler, Germany (79292); married Magdeleine HIZFELD. Generation No.7 4. Andre HAURY, born 1675 in Ehrenkirchen, BRSG, Germany 79238. He was the son of 8. Georges HAURY and 9. Eve PFISTER. He married 5. Barbara REGER. 5. Barbara REGER. Child of Andre HAURY and Barbara REGER is: 2 i. Andre HAURY, born 1700 in Ehrenkirchen, BRSG, (Germany); married Marie Verena HUG. Generation No. 8 8. Georges HAURY, born April 10, 1644 in Kirchzarten, BRSG, Germany (79199). He was the son of 16. Andre HAURY and 17. Marie WALMER. He married 9. Eve PFISTER. 9. Eve PFISTER. Child of Georges HAURY and Eve PFISTER is: 4 i. Andre HAURY, born 1675 in Ehrenkirchen, BRSG, Germany 79238; married Barbara REGER. Generation No. 9 1. Andre HAURY, born November 04, 1610 in Kirchzarten, BRSG, Germany (70199). He was the son of 2. Georges HAURY and 3. Agathe BAYERT. He married (1) Marie WALMER. Child of Andre HAURY and Marie WALMER is: i. Georges HAURY, born April 10, 1644 in Kirchzarten, BRSG, Germany (79199); married Eve PFISTER. Generation No. 10 2. Georges HAURY, born 1580 in Kirchzarten, BRSG, Germany (79199). He was the son of 4. Zacharie HAURY and 5. Marie SCHIRK. He married 3. Agathe BAYERT. 3. Agathe BAYERT. Notes for Georges HAURY: BIRTH: Year approximate Child of Georges HAURY and Agathe BAYERT is: 1 i. Andre HAURY, born November 04, 1610 in Kirchzarten, BRSG, Germany (70199); married Marie WALMER. Generation No. 11 4. Zacharie HAURY, born 1555 in Steur, Eschb, Kirchzarten, BRSG Germany (79; died 1610 in Steurenthal, Eschbach, Kirchzarten, BR (79199). He was the son of 8. Zacharie HAURY. He married 5. Marie SCHIRK 1580 in Kirchzarten GRSG, Germany 79199. 5. Marie SCHIRK. Notes for Zacharie HAURY: Occupation: Fermier/restaurateur ie Farmer and restaurant owner Child of Zacharie HAURY and Marie SCHIRK is: 2 i. Georges HAURY, born 1580 in Kirchzarten, BRSG, Germany (79199); married Agathe BAYERT. Generation No. 12 8. Zacharie HAURY, born 1530 in St. Peter, BRSG Germany (79, ). Child of Zacharie HAURY is: 4 i. Zacharie HAURY, born 1555 in Steur, Eschb, Kirchzarten, BRSG Germany (79; died 1610 in Steurenthal, Eschbach, Kirchzarten, BR (79199); married Marie SCHIRK 1580 in Kirchzarten GRSG, Germany 79199. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

FRED re Coats of Arms...Suggest anyone receiving anything from Halberts or anything relating to genealogy from Bath Ohio should be wary. These folks are Charletans and are operating under many names.. it would be more profitable to flush your money down the toilet than to mail it to them! Shirley >>Two copies of a "HAURY" coat of arms, prepared by Halberts, 3687 Ira Road, Bath, Ohio 44210, exist. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]