Hello Colleen, Will this one do? James HOWELL married , Susan ALLEN at St. Andrew's Parish Church, Manchester on 25th February 1877.His age was given as 21 but I do not believe this. His father was also James HOWELL - cabinetmaker. I have him on the April 1881 census at 12 Holland St, Newton, in Manchester, aged 23, born Stoke on Trent, Stafford, England, with Susan, and they were lodging with John and Ellen Cavil. Ellen was born in Wolverhampton, Stafford, and I suspect that she may have been a HOWELL before her marriage. I have him on the April 1891 census at 13 Tame St, New Cross, Manchester, aged 34 with 5 of his children, Mary Jane, Annie, Minnie, Maria and James. He died at 60 Russel St., Ancoats, Manchester, UK, on 16th November 1902, aged 44 years, occupation - carter.His daughter Doris aged 8 months was next entry in the death register. Out of 8 children that I know of (and I suspect a few more were born) only Annie, Minnie and Maria survived childhood. I do not know what happened to Mary Jane, who was 9 on the 1891, but all the others died as babies, as was normal for the time and area!! I have tried twice for birth certificates from Stoke on Trent, but both were the wrong father. Also I cannot find his father, James on the 1881 census. I hope that this epistle may strike a note with someone. Best wishes, Linda in Cheshire, UK